I've got stomach ulcers and my doctor said it might be stress related.
I'm a kissless virgin and I feel like that's a large source of anxiety, and pretty much everything else in my life is fine. So, I was thinking of going to an Asian massage parlor or something.
I'm conflicted though because I feel like paying to fuck or even getting a handjob would be irredeemably pathetic though. Anyone else gone through with this? Any advice?
It's bacterial, and sex wont help you at all.
get a girlfriend you stupid faggot.
>>17251586
before you decide on an asian rub n tug you should do some research and learn about how most of them are forced into having sex with strangers to pay off the human traffickers and by paying for it you're supporting human trafficking. You're literally paying to rape someone.
>>17251596
dont care LOL
>>17251627
>4 posters
>you're not op
your opinion doesn't matter kiddo, we're talking to op.
>>17251591
Well, if I could get a gf, don't you think I would've done that a long time ago?
>>17251596
Hmm, yeah didn't consider that.
I guess if I wanted to do go through with it I might check out escorts online then.
>>17251586
i lost my virginity to a hooker
I did not regret that decision, but I wouldn't recommend it either. Honest sex with a woman where you both care about each other is like 10000x times better, I was mind blowed by that experience after I got ""real" sex a few months later. It was the moment I knew I lost my virginity for real.
>>17251645
Was the fact that you lost your virginity a few months later pure coincidence or did having sex for the first time give you confidence to do it?
>>17251586
28 year old virgin here. I frequent strip clubs and have gotten countless handjobs and one blow job. Can confirm that while it feels great having someone else jerk you off (especially if you get to hold them close/feel their boobs/pussy) it probably doesn't really compare to actual sex. Also Asian massage parlors are notorious for being dirty as fuck. Unless you want the herps I wouldn't suggest it.
Being a kissless virgin is a symptom of your problems, not the problem in and of itself. You might feel anxious about your virginity and lack of experience with women, but that's because you don't know how to go out there and interact with them.
A prostitute or anything similar won't solve that. Go out there, talk to men and women- whoever you have trouble with. Practice interacting with them. Once you've got that down practice flirting and getting a girl interested in you, and getting her to go out with you.
>>17251716
Hmmm, thanks for your perspective.
When was the first time you did it though, and was it a big deal you think?
>>17251723
I hear this,"just learn to talk to people", a lot but is conversing really a learned skill?
It's not like I get nervous or shy, but most people, not just girls, find me boring as fuck. I don't know how being a better talker would help with that.
>>17251627
damn, that edge.
>>17251741
The first time I did it she kinda straddled me, grabbed my dick through my pants, and started going at it. I didn't know if she expected me to finish but back then I was super sensitive (plus had just had some girl grind on me for 20 minutes) but I tried my hardest not to finish. I ended up cumming through my pants onto her hand after like a minute. I apologized profusely and she just laughed and asked me if I felt good now.
>>17251741
>a lot but is conversing really a learned skill?
It is.
>most people find me boring as fuck
Then maybe learning to talk to people isn't the problem, but learning to be more interesting and appealing when you talk is.
Ask open ended questions of the people you're talking to, listen to them with interest and ask questions that allow them to talk more about themselves. Relate back to them with tidbits of your own life, and be interested in your own life - enthusiasm is catching. If you find your life dull, why would anyone else argue? Do cool and varied stuff you like, it doesn't have to be out there or daring like climbing mountains or skydiving - though by all means, if you want to then do those too. Anything from cooking to music to coding, if you're passionate about it and can talk about it without getting too technical when speaking with the uninitiated they'll generally find you interesting to talk to. Don't go on and on about one subject though, because that does get grating. Don't have any hobbies? Find some. And in the meanwhile talk about the things you'd like to try. This can also be applied to aspects of your life other than hobbies, like your goals for the future, your work, etc.
Being charming also goes a long way - especially with getting women interested, so practice being able to flirt and draw positive attention to yourself.
>I "lost" my virginity to a prostitute. It's not worth it, I still feel like the guy in OP pic. The girls I fucked do let you do everything you pay for, but you can't compare it to real sex, sometimes you notice that they're really not interested up to the point you start pounding them like there's no tomorrow when they can't resist it biologically anymore.
But then again, why would I change myself as a person just to get a girlfriend? I know I wouldn't be happy in the long run if I pretended that she's special when she isn't.
>>17251792
You sound like you have a very isolating and depressing outlook on life. You should change it so that you can live a happier and more fulfilling life. That doesn't imply anything about living a lie or pretending someone is special to you if they're not.
>>17251797
I do. What can I do about it? I have a busy schedule, I work full time, excecise when I don't, play videogames to keep my brain occupied, cook for myself. I don't really *need* a woman for anything but kind of just being there. I'm afraid I won't find anyone though, since I get really anxious when exposed to people and just want to be left alone half an hour into being in a social situation..
>>17251816
I don't even necessarily mean women, companionship in general. I have to go out so I can't reply more in depth right now, but I could try to give more detailed advice later.
>>17251709
The sex with a hooker didn't boost my confidence.
You just know she's with you just because you paid her and you won't feel any better about yourself.
I was insecure about my body back then (66kg Auschwitz), so I started lifting and fixed my diet, got some noticeable noob gains in the first month, felt much better. I limited my weed because smoking weed every day made me anxious and paranoid (i didn't even realize that before). I also stoped wasting my time playing pc games altogether. I felt so good about myself and thats how I managed to pull her. It was the first date in my life and I had sex on it, I didn't expect that.
>>17251816
Back. Start practicing with small steps. Don't worry about landing a girl yet, or even friends if you can't handle socializing extensively yet. When I was a hikikomori I took my first steps by going outside, and from there on regular walks out of my way where I practiced not staring at my feet. As I got better at fixing my posture I also made an attempt to make actual eye contact with people I passed, and smiling politely whenever I did.
You sound like you're well past that step so I'm not telling you that for you to follow it, the takeaway is supposed to be you don't have to rush in. Mingle, make small talk for a little while. Get yourself some acquaintances who are verging on friends. Practice being personable, but don't be afraid to give yourself space so you don't have a panic attack.
Try to remind yourself that the people you're talking to don't see what you see. People with social anxiety analyze the fuck out of their actions. I know I do. But I've learned I don't actually trip up at all until I get nervous about some perceived mistake I've made, some minor action I may have fucked up on that realistically would be quickly forgotten if it was picked up on at all. Look into self-cognitive behavioral therapy for anxiety and depression.
www.llttf.com
www.getselfhelp.co.uk
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/06/16/things-that-sometimes-help-if-youre-depressed/
>>17252255
Continued.
And change this outlook, it's not healthy:
>why would I change myself as a person just to get a girlfriend? I know I wouldn't be happy in the long run if I pretended that she's special when she isn't.
You don't pretend a girl is special to get a girlfriend. You get a girlfriend because you feel a connection with her, and to you she IS special. If you feel as all women aren't special and you would never feel that way about a girl, then evaluate how you see women and people in general. Your outlook on life sounds like it's bordering on /r9k/. If you think people are shitty, you'll see only the shit in people. Basic confirmation bias. And that's assuming you'll even bother getting out there if you think people aren't worth the time. I understand how those thoughts develop, and I'm not saying you're a bad person for thinking that way. Depression and anxiety are incredibly isolating, and those thought patterns develop as a defense mechanism to offer some measure of comfort and safety. But it's not good to think that way and in reality it will only isolate you further. Take steps to consciously remind yourself of the good in people, and actively seek it out. If you catch yourself having misanthropic, or self-loathing, or otherwise unhealthy thoughts stop thinking them, remind yourself they're untrue and that you're biased, and then come up with direct counterpoints to your thoughts.
Video games are fine to spend a little time, but in the same way you won't get mental fulfillment out of them so you should do things like exercising and entertainment, you're not going to get emotional fulfillment either. You need to try to find people you feel comfortable talking to. That's not easy, in fact it requires an enormous amount of courage if you're starting from scratch. Join a group that caters to an interest you have, or suggest you hang out with a coworker you frequently chat with after work to grab drinks.
>friend's friend went to Asian massage parlor
>they give foot jobs
>he got one
>dick became horrifying itchy days later
>got athletes foot on his dick
