Should I vote for Donald Trump even though everyone calls him a racist? I haven't seen any evidence that he's racist other than people saying he is. But I have a few bits of evidence that Hillary Clinton is a racist. She was even in a whites-only country club, while Trump allowed everyone in his club.
Your observations contradict the opinions of the crowd. That should be sufficient to formulate your own opinion. Yet here you are trying to get others' opinions which you seem to already know.
Do what you feel is right.
>>17251014
No politician is good, and most are some level of racist. But Trump has been ridiculously vocal about throwing out Mexicans, has called Canadians "Snow Mexicans", and tons of other examples. He has also been incredibly sexist during his campaign.
There is plenty of evidence he is bad. But I have no proof Hillary is better.
Make up your own mind, but think who you want to represent USA - a racist sexist billionaire that will likely alienate every minority on the globe by the time his stint in office is over, or a woman who will be forced to toe the line because of her gender?
I'd take the woman-puppet personally, because thete is less chance of irreparable damage.
>>17251014
Trump got his start fresh out of college when his rich property developer daddy gave him a hotel to run. He ran it into bankruptcy and learned three lessons he has followed ever since: Never put your own money into anything. Get others to invest for you by making yourself a brand name, so you get a piece of the profits just by being front man for other investors. And bankruptcy doesn't hurt if you didn't have your own money invested.
Almost every Trump property or project has gone bankrupt at least once - his Atlantic City casino three separate times. A lot of people lost a lot of money, and he just walked away.
You might call that clever, but not when it's your money (through a pension or union fund) that was lost, or your job.
Whether he's racist or not, it is clear that he doesn't give a damn for anyone but himself and his glory, and that's not a man I'd want in charge of my country.
>>17251014
>I haven't seen any evidence that he's racist other than people saying he is.
You clearly haven't been paying attention. Just google "Donald Trump racist" and you'll find plenty of examples.
>>17251014
I only like him because of how "politically incorrect" he is. He's meh, but I don't want to end up like Europe so yeah.
>>17251312
If he is the head of state, his glory is the state's glory. That's exactly who you wany running the country.
I think this guy >>17251312 has the right idea. Trump's lack of success as a project leader is more important than any question of racism or political correctness.
Whether or not someone is privately racist shouldn't really have an effect on your vote - it isn't particularly relevant as it won't ever make its way into policy, and both of the major candidates are certifiably racist. Look at their actual policies and campaign promises other than the spur of "THIS CANDIDATE IS A RACIST!" Whether or not a candidate says mean things about a race really doesn't matter, I guarantee you nearly every presidential candidate in history has been a racist to some degree. It really doesn't matter.
That being said even if racism/other isms and phobics really effect your vote they should be turning you away from Clinton and not Trump
>>17251460
If the ends justify the means, Trump is successful. He received money and opportunities, and turned them into billions.
Lots of kids get money for school and opportunities, and only manage to turn it into negative capital by way of useless or unfinished degrees plus credit card debt.
>>17251466
What? Look, man, I absolutely cannot stand Clinton, but she hasn't literally risen to power on a surge of anti-Mexican and anti-Muslim sentiment. I doubt Trump actually believes half the shit he says about that, he's playing to his audience, but his "actual policies and campaign promises" ARE virulently racist. Clinton's ... aren't.
I'm not even particularly pro-immigration, but there's a right way and a wrong way to address it. You can act like a reasonable, level-headed adult, or you can act like a bully.
>>17251417
don't forget to google "Donald Trump Reptilian" and "Hillary Clinton Reptilian" for plenty of examples of them being sleeper agent aliens waiting to enslave all humans.
>>17251276
>vocal about throwing out Mexicans
*Illegal Mexicans. And Mexican isn't even a race to begin with.
>has called Canadians "Snow Mexicans"
Source? I can't see anywhere that says this. Even if he did, Canadians are not a race and that's obviously a joke.
>He has also been incredibly sexist during his campaign.
Literally where? Whenever anyone says this, they point out him simply disagreeing or saying something bad to/about AN INDIVIDUAL woman as proof that he "hates all women".
>>17251417
I just did. All I saw are people claiming he's racist because of *insert not racist thing here*, or *dubious claim from some individual that can't be substantiated* They just hate that he's not PC and doesn't follow their popular narrative.
>>17251514
Saying a sexist thing about an individual woman is still sexist.
The first one that comes to mind is him saying that Megyn Kelly was being unfair to him because she must have been on her period (The exact words he used were "she had blood coming out of her wherever" which is very clearly a reference to menstrual blood).
He was talking about an individual woman, but using this excuse to dismiss a woman's questions or criticisms is still a sexist act.
>>17251548
>overanalyzing this hard
"Trump joked about a woman being on her period" - Anon on why Clinton is a better candidate despite playing roles in destabilizing Honduras, killing innocent civilians in Serbia (as well as irradiating Belgrade), killing innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan, and can't even manage emails
>>17251548
Is that what people are complaining is "sexist" now? A period joke?
>>17251548
you must be on your period if you think that's sexist. You can't deny that women are less rational while on it.
Hillary has already had a political career that we can analyze, anyone with a brain can see she just wants to fleece America and place as many of her friends in positions where they can fleece us as well, she is the definition of crony capitalism, and a puppet to boot.
You ought to vote for Hillary. She has Saudi Arabia and globalists banks interests in mind and that's really for the best. She totally fine with shipping in tons of foreigners and having them set up mini-shithole countries.
She is for whatever gets her elected, and that means pandering to SJWs despite being fully against marriage equality and speaking as a good friend of a former KKK leader. She will put her bigotry and racism behind closed door for the American public, and even though she is probably ten times the racist Trump is, she is able to cover it up with billions of dollars and completely bought news outlets. She is really good at denying any link between Islam and terrorism as well.
She's also really proactive about starting wars in the Middle East, her family has a proven record of assassinations, funding terrorists organizations, and generally profiteering from bloodshed. When her emails leak that she didn't even send securely in today's world of a hacking attempt everyday, she is really good at making a "so what face" in front of a camera, which proves she had nothing to do with getting American soldiers killed.
She's really experienced at doing what US presidents have done for the last 20 years. She has the experience, not like Trump. She can get us more hands on in the Middle East than ever and all without actually stopping ISIS, because then their be no enemy to justify the profit.
So vote for Hillary, then only get your news from CNN, and you'll believe that she is the best president ever, because her donors virtually own that network.
Plus it's always a good idea to pass the leadership of the entire US back and forth between to families with close ties and keep the power solidified within one political party for over 20 years. There is to much danger of corruption if power is to spread out.
#ImWithHer, because she knows how to make America do what it is already doing.
>Pic related, it's Hillary as America's mom
anyone that thinks hillary is "better" than trump in any sense is misinformed or has their fingers firmly in their ears
in no reality is a churlish dumbass more deserving of your scorn than a fucking warmonger
>>17251014
Don Trumpet is good man. He's a fucking retard but I think he'll make a good president. Vote for him.
>>17251562
Turn it around, say you criticize someone and they publicly say "being a man I bet his blood was in the wrong head again when he said that".
It's not that you cannot joke about periods, it's that it is rude and disrespectful, not to mention immature, to try to dismiss someone not by debunking/criticizing what they say but by implying they were out of it. Whether it's about menstruation or implying they must have been drunk, had a mental breakdown, just experienced a loss or whatever doesn't matter. It boils down to "no, you were unhinged for saying that".
This is not to say that I think Hillary would make a good president.
>>17251014
Make your mind. Don't trust media. Search facts by yourself.
>>17251276
> has called Canadians "Snow Mexicans",
BASED
>>17251444
This.
Globalism destroys nations.
Trump says a lot of pretty things, but I wonder if he means any of them.
>>17251477
Hilary allowed people who worked for her to die under her watch. Then she tried to hide it in order to save her political career. That alone makes her unfit to be the President of the United States.
Hilary and her supporters are so keen on "history making" by having a female nomination from a major party and looking to have the first female American President. In other words, she is basically telling people to vote for her because she is a woman. I'm all for equality, but this is not it. This in itself is far more sexist than anything Donald Trump has ever said or done.
>>17251830
>comic tl:dr
As others have said, don't rely on others opinions.
>>17251744
It's a damn joke. I wouldn't care if a female candidate said that. One who would joke and be real like that sounds great, I'd much prefer it over a fake like Hillary.
>>17251276
>Mexicans are a race
And this is why everyone thinks liberals are stupid
>>17252023
Perhaps this is a cultural difference, I am Dutch and would not appreciate that from a female candidate either. It is politics, be fucking professionals. You're not supposed to be able to be a good comedian. You're supposed to do your job right. That may not exclude one another, but by throwing it in the mix too prominently you raise the bar for other candidates to rival with you and I don't think that's right. One of the by far better politicians in my country has lost significant public appeal because he was socially awkward and unable to deal smoothly with the "comical" populist tv reporters from some shitty show. Wilders is popular mainly because he is charismatic and "dashing" in a way compared to competing party heads. Yet he has said some terrible, terrible things and among others tried to play off letting a crowd of people, after a build up, chant "do we want more or less Moroccans? (less! less! less!) as a joke based on some of the least flattering Western European history.
And besides this on comical relief, I don't think it's appropriate to publicly attack a hopefully!! somewhat ideologically charged opponent by calling them out on having a dick/pussy that screws with their head. Really tells you something about their competence as a strategic person with a vision if you need to stoop to that. It can be humiliating, depending on how someone is inclined, and to me just all around unnecessary. But whatever gets him votes I guess.
>>17252349
Should add that of course there is nothing against a chosen leader with a sense of humor and humanity. But that is different from making a big deal out of joking around when campaigning.
>>17252074
are you actually that retarded
answer honestly, was that reaction sincere?
>>17252355
Not that anon, but are you actually that retarded? Honestly curious.
>>17252359
i am. is he sincere or not.
>>17251276
>"Snow Mexicans"
>>17251744
I'm with this guy. Trying to be a fucking quipster is dismissive, lowers the level of the conversation, and wastes my time as a voter.
