People, who've graduated university, does life gets a lot harder after that? How did you motivate yourself to succeed?
How do you cope, for what reason do you tolerate everything?
Only reasoning you need is, do I live in the dirt or in a home with food, no other thought needed
Immediately after was incredibly hard. I couldn't get a job for 6 months and I was sleeping on my mother's couch. I had no friends, spent all day on my own, and was extremely isolated.
I hadn't prepared properly for after university and my family are a bunch of deadbeats that live in the countryside that couldn't help me in the slightest. I was wildly applying for jobs even though I had 0 experience in anything and nobody bothered to reply even after hundreds of applications.
I then said fuck it and moved to my brother's couch in the big city. I got a minimum wage job at a department store where I was the only English employee and I got bullied like crazy and I had to do shift work so that I was finishing at midnight and starting again at 6am.
So eventually I said fuck it and went on welfare which turned out to be a godsend. They paid my way for a few months with no pressure on me for the first time in a while and I got on a scheme to start my own business.
Now about 3 years after graduating I'm happier than I've ever been in my life. I work to my own schedule and I'm not surrounded by cunts anymore.
>>17211037
I experienced something similar.
Even though I tried my best to get experience in accounting, the fact of the matter is that most firms recruit from their summer intern pool (which I didn't undertake due to poor planning at Uni).
So I started my applications in the lastish semester, big mistake. Que me having to move back with my family and sending out 100+ applications only to get five interviews. The situation in our state was really shitty, as the government had just cut thousands of public servants so there was a surplus of white collar workers about.
I cried some days. I really did.
But then one day I got the call. I got the job. It was for something I had applied for months earlier, a government position (gov always takes their time).
Now I'm going on my third year with that place, and things are pretty good. Work is interesting, the pay is excellent for my grade, and I can fully support myself.
That said, yes - life does get harder after uni. You'll be stressed and tested in ways you though you couldn't have, especially when studying at the professional level.
But you know what? You've already proven yourself this far by doing a degree. It's a similar jump from being in highschool and going to uni; you just need to apply yourself, and ask for help if you need it.
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>>17211060
Thanks, these stories are pretty inspiring.
I don't know, anon, me getting into university was a result of doing hard at school. Now, I'm a freshman, and because I got kicked out for laziness, for a 2nd time, and my gpa will be idk no more than 3.0 out of 4.0, if i work my ass off, this semester.
I'm doing stem degree, will shit grades close any doors to science jobs? Everybody around is dead serious competitive or very sociable (i e gonna work with friends).
It should be too early for me to ask what's afterwards, but i get that childish despair that life will be getting worse and worse in the future.
>>17211077
Looking back now, this is the best sort of advice/pep talk I'd have wanted going into Uni.
>Okay anon, so you want a degree. First of all - what is my end goal? You want employment, right?
>What are the job prospects now?
>What are they predicted to be in the future?
>How much are entry level people paid in this field?
>HOW do I actually become employed?
>What is the competition like amongst job seekers?
Those questions above are actually quite important. I would definitely do your research well and thorough - this includes actually talking to people who could one day be your employers, and actually run businesses in that field.
Hell, I dropped down to an accountants place one day before I started my degree just to pick his brains.
Also worth considering:
>What can I do during uni to improve my job prospects?
What sort of skills and experience are they after?
These years at uni are quite important to get your foot in the door and into a job. Of course, it will take extra time and effort, and may be a bit of an extra load, but it's worth it if you want to get a job.
I remember one day when I was talking to a job recruiting firm employee person girl, and she pulled out a list of accountants salaries given their years of experience.
At the bottom was 0-1 years experience, and it was about 35k-37k in small accounting firms. An absolute pittance, especially when superannuation takes about 9% of that salary.
Sitting there looking at that, I thought "Well fuck me, I wasted that time at uni when I should've been in an accounting firm. At the very least, I would've had a degree AND some experience to boot".
Luckily that wasn't the case for me, and I managed to get a ridiculously well paying job (pretty much twice as much for the same experience level), but you must realise - I was very, very lucky.
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>>17211077
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I had done about 5 other interviews before sitting for the interview that got me the job, and I'll be frank - I blew some of those just due to my inexperience. But the great thing about is I learned what I was doing wrong, asked my interviewers for feedback, and then did it RIGHT by practising, self reflecting and taking some damn good examples of my limited work experience in the demonstrate how I succeeded.
Shit, I really got off track there. Sorry, but I just got into the groove.
But yeah, before you even enrol in another degree just think about what sort of industry it is, ask those questions I stated earlier and you'll be in the right direction.
Oh, and be flexible in what you can study. It doesn't have to be at the top of the list; it doesn't even need to be 5th. What's important is that it ticks your boxes. You can't be picky in this day and age, I'm afraid. Be flexible.
Best of luck, anon!
>>17211093
Thanks, anon, it looks like job seeking is hard, but manageable with persistence.
I am trying to know more about where i can work, but i guess i shouldn't waste too much time on it for the first 2 years. I'd still have to get phd, the final graduation is really far away.
My seniors kinda advice to stop giving a fuck about grades and focus on what you like, because getting all As is worth only for scholarships and maybe some god-tier internships. Otherwise it's ruining your health and mental stability.
It's just that i have no idea what research job market is like: i was visit one company and they take recent graduates, only if they are insanely ambitious and ready to learn quickly and constantly. No stagnation allowed, they'll fire you for an instant.
Then there is low-tier research institutes, which do nothing groundbreaking, probably they have the same situation as white collar jobs.
This fear of unknown makes me frightened and i can't focus and can't choose a specialisation. You can totally pick something relatively far as your masters and phd, and i still am afraid to screw up.
I want to learn that and this, when i don't procrastinate, and i may end up as master of none.
>>17211137
Though its kinda late here, there's something I want to address quickly:
>This fear of unknown makes me frightened and i can't focus and can't choose a specialisation. You can totally pick something relatively far as your masters and phd, and i still am afraid to screw up.
Don't worry - most people fear the unknown. Even I do. The only thing that I can do to feel better is to manage it by making well informed decisions and sticking to a plan of action, and updating it where needs be.
The best way to avoid screwing up is to talk to successful people about what they did to succeed, and incorporate that. It'll take time to master fully, but be persistent with it and it will pay off.
Sorry I couldn't stay longer, anon. It's getting late, and I've got work tomorrow.
Take care!
