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Should i? Have any of you done it and what has it done for you as far as confidence goes? I cant really stop thinking about it and just wanna get it over with.
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>>17199270
It will feel really sad and disgusting when you cum. Not worth it IMO and this is talking from experience. You will also be anxious about STDs and paranoid about the police. You may not even get hard.
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>>17199270
Assuming you get past >>17199275 you will also feel like you cheated the virginity game. You will have no proof to yourself that you are capable of meeting, dating, and fucking someone who is actually interested. Your confidence will be rekt.
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I currently live in the uk and as far as i know escort services aren't iligal. Also i plan on using a condom. Im just scared that it might actually lower my confidence knowing how i lost it.
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Losing your virginity to a girl of backpage for 100 bucks is a lot of fun if you think she's pretty/hot and she provides gfe
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>>17199270
How legitimate is it in your place?
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>>17199270
You're going to go in nervously and make the atmosphere awkward as fuck. Maybe you'll get it up and blow one out, or maybe you won't and you'll spend the whole time with a limp dick and a confused whore.

No, giving your virginity to a hooker won't make you more confident. In fact, you'll feel disgusted with yourself because you were just intimate with a questionable person. Confidence comes from overcoming your faults; having sex with someone you love and have gotten to love you back is rewarding because it comes through effort.

I don't know how old you are, or what your situation is. I do know that the loneliest people are those who don't like themselves very much. If you want to build a relationship with someone, you're asking them to be comfortable being with. How can they be, however, if you're not even comfortable with yourself? You're an entitled man-child who thinks that he shouldn't have to put any effort into life. I get it. The 'normies' make it seem so easy, so why should it be hard for you? Why is it so easy for you to walk, yet an invalid is confined to a wheel chair? Why can MIT students work with non-linear differential equations while most people struggle with basic calculus? Because people are born with their individual talents, just as they're born with their individual faults. Don't judge yourself based on other people's merits. Don't get discouraged if you have trouble talking to girls, but it comes so easy to Chad. You're not Chad. You have to work hard to get that one average girl's phone number while Chad goes home with two 10s like it's nothing. If you let that depress you into thinking "Why bother?" then your life will never improve. Don't judge yourself by other people's success, but work toward making yourself happy.

If you fuck this hooker, that's now part of who you are. You're "that' guy, and there's no going back.
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>>17199321
You make a fair point mate. Really gave me something to think about. I work hard on every aspect of my life. Even go to the gym every day its just that my love life is a complete mess. I dont know. I guess i just needed someone to convince me that its a stupid idea.
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>>17199341
When I was learning guitar, and I wasn't improving much, I went to go see a teacher. First thing, he said show me what know. So I played some chords, some basic scale patterns, and a song that I like. Then he put on a metronome and told me to just start playing. I didn't know how. I knew all these individual skills and songs that I liked, but it turns out I didn't know how to play guitar.

He explained to me that while I was working hard, I wasn't doing hard work. He explained that whole, working hard is putting forth the effort, doing hard work meant also working on this that are tedious or make you uncomfortable. I didn't practice playing with a metronome or improvising because it was "hard work".

Yes, you may be working hard at improving some aspects of your life. But be honest with yourself. Are you doing hard work? Are you going out of your comfort zone to talk to people? Are you working on your presentation or body language? It doesn't seem so. Just because you're working hard, doesn't mean you're doing hard work. Just like I couldn't really play guitar, you're not really making yourself a well-rounded and functional person.
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Ignore naysayers, OP. Naturally this kind of a question will bring out the bitter virgins who are waiting for their true love to magically appear.

I did it, and would recommend it if you're past a certain age. Think of her as your personal sex trainer. You wouldn't want to have your awful first time with someone you want to spend the rest of your life with, permanently damaging her perception of you.
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>>17199378
>if you disagree you're a virgin
Alternatively, we can identify what it was about losing our virginity that made us grow. Great to hear your experience differs. You can contribute a second opinion without being a shitter.
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>>17199374
Ignore the typos in this previous post, and allow me to add something.

You working hard on every aspect of your life, as you say, seems to be a superficial and narcissistic endeavor. You're working on yourself, by yourself, hoping that people will notice your efforts and approach you. You're giving everyone else control over your social life. Guess what? People aren't looking for friends. Most people at this point in life have their friends, so why would they go seek out strangers? You're the one seeking, so you have to be the one to initiate things with people and girls.
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>>17199275
OP mentioned he is not a burger. So none of those apply.
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>>17199378
You took the easy way out because you were too much of an entitled failure to identify and fix what makes you repulsive. If you ever meet a girl you love, how do you think she's going to react to learning about what you did? I suppose you could lie to her, and likely will, because you seem devoid of empathy even for yourself.
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>>17199389
>projecting this hard

None of what you say is true. But keep waiting for your virgin waifu to be dropped into your lap. You'll be waiting for a long time.
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>>17199392
I could also posit that you're projecting, because we don't really know each other apart from what we have chosen to share. It's your truth that you lost your virginity to a prostitute. It's also true that this isn't how this event transpires in a normal person's life. By definition, your decision was not normal, so your reasoning behind it couldn't be normal. You, therefore, are not a normally-functioning member of society. That's not a projection, it's an objective observation based on what you elected to share.
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Americans should automatically be excluded from prostitution threads. They have been conditioned to see it as something horrible and dangerous and immoral. The rest of the world doesn't have that skewed view.
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>>17199389
Im not that guy but youre really not seeing the reality of things.
Getting sex is incredibly hard and its not simply about "fixing" what makes you undatable because sometimes there is either nothing wrong or nothing you can do.

Im not saying prostitution is a good solution but i can definetly see how guys are tempted to use it because one can only take so much loneliness and if the stars DO align one day and we manage to find a girl then why would you tell her?
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>>17199389
You're perpetuating the falsehood that it's only desperate betas that go to hookers. Quite the opposite. Most users of prostitutes are the successful types who can also get pussy without paying for it.
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>>17199421
There's a big difference between using a prostitute and losing your virginity to a prostitute. If OP could get pussy without paying for it, this would be non-issue. You are changing the subject.
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>>17199412
Lonely people tend to have the "woe is me" attitude that makes them feel like the world is against them or its just bad luck.

>if the stars DO align one day and we manage to find a girl

Case and point. Whether you admit it to yourself or not, you fantasize about a girl just falling into your life through some stroke of luck or providence, yet you don't consider that you should put forth any effort. You believe that love or sex are entitlements, and if you haven't gotten them, then there's nothing you can do. You're defeating yourself and making yourself lonely.
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>>17199412
And who has convinced you of this reality? Yourself? Your wording implies that you are a virgin too. Doesn't that make it a little silly for you to speak objective truth of the situation? Do you not see that you are excusing your own situation by labeling it as out of your control?
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>>17199428
OP is a late bloomer. Learning the trade with prostitutes will make it easier for him to get sex for "free" (no such thing).
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>>17199421
Be honest. Are you the successful type? Could you have lost your virginity without paying for it? Because if you could, and you opted to pay for a emotionally-decrepit stranger to share the experience with, then you're serving to solidify my argument that you are not normal.
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>>17199433
I personally do not have an entitlement attitude, ive gotten relationships before and i keep working on self improvement.

Its been a year since i found a single girl who had an interest in dating, despite me looking very hard most girls are taken already or simply not interested in dating long term.
How do i solve that problem mate? Its hard because the supply of girls isnt really that high to start off with
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>>17199438
Im not a virgin mate, ive had two relationships spanning a total of 10 years and some random hook ups aswell.
Im not saying its out of your control, i am saying sometimes it is out of your control
See rest of post here
>>17199442
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>>17199442
Going back to my guitar-playing analogy. Part of learning how to play the instrument well means identifying the little things that make your playing sound a little bit off. Maybe I can strum through a few chord progressions, but i notice that on certain chord changes my fingers don't land correctly and I mute one of the adjacent strings with my finger. Even though I can play through these progressions, this little minute detail is hampering the quality of the sound I'm producing. I then have to pause to rectify this by going through those chord changes over and over again, slowly at first, making sure my fingers land correctly.

I can't tell you what you're doing wrong. According to you, you can talk to girls so you're comfortable with the overall method. Maybe there's some minute detail or details that you need to work on. I don't know you, so I can't tell you what they are, but I can give you some examples. Maybe you're not smiling enough or you're smiling too much? Maybe you have trouble maintaining eye contact? Whatever it is, it's something you wouldn't notice unless you take the time to analyze your technique. You've identified that there is a problem, now you just have to o identify what the problem is and work remember to correct it when it manifests.

As for girls being taken, there really isn't anything you can do. Someone else got her first. Don't let it demotivate you but move on to the next one.
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>>17199455
Yeah, the devil is in the details alright.
I dont know what im doing wrong but every girl i see is taken already and thats my problem, im not kidding when i say its been a year since i met one interested last.

Case in point was that its not easy, even if youre hunting for just getting laid its a long and taxing path you walk down. I can still find respect for guys buying sex just to satisfy the need since well, sometimes fapping just doesnt do it because sex is diffrent.
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>>17199477
How many girls does that account for? If it's a low number like 1-5, then it's statistically possible that 100% of them could be taken. The problem here is that in the span of a year, you've tried to win over less than one girl a month.

If, however, you're talking to a large volume of girls, then it's statistically improbable that 100% of them were taken. They either lied to you about being taken because they weren't interested in you, or you're lying to yourself about how frequently you approach girls.

I feel I've provided adequate advice for you and anyone with a similar impediment. If you want to keep making excuses, you're certainly free to do so. Your life is ultimately of no consequence to anyone but yourself. I'm no longer interested in this thread and all the self-pity it contains.
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>>17199441
I am the successful type. Yes, I could have lost it without a prostitute. However, it was the best option. I was a late bloomer, and practicing with prostitutes helped me get to speed on matters that everyone else my age had naturally.

>emotionally-decrepit stranger
You are obviously american.
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>>17199270
Don't do it.
Afterwards you'll feel even shittier than before and realize that sex isn't the solution to all the problems. Speaking from experience.

It's not worth it.
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>>17199533
Do it.

Speaking from experience.

It's worth it.
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>>17199270

Do it, the confidence boost from knowing you're not a loser will make the world of difference.
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I did it. Most of these posts are hyperbole. You won't feel "disgusting", but you won't feel more confident either. I mean, everyone's different, but for me it was more "that's it?". Turns out the physical aspect isn't that great, it's more about the psychological aspect of someone liking you enough to let you do it. And obviously hookers don't actually like you, so it just feels like an empty act. Vagina isn't even very tight. Kinda disappointed me.

And yeah, you might think that that would help you become less obsessed with sex, but nope. Instinct is too powerful.

tl;dr - it doesn't change shit, do whatever
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