I asked this on /pol/ but it actually seems like a good question so I want to hear what you guys think.
>3rd wave Feminists
>Nu-males, beta men
>record divorce rates
>lack of discipline and drive and passion in many people (I admit I'm projecting with this one desu)
>Apathy
I hear theories like "the internet did this" (I think we were put on this course long before the internet though) or porn/other instant gratification ruined men, which made women what they are" or that women fell first, then men did. It doesn't really matter which way it happened. All Ik is the quality of interpersonal relationships, not just between genders in a romantic sense--but people in general has gone down. I know economic, social, etc factors all played a role in this and we can't blame one thing but I'm sure there had to have been a catalyst. Maybe its just we're just too comfy, but the I honestly think this downward slope started before we got "comfy." Without memeing or blaming jews or minorities, what the fuck happened? Something had to have occurred, whether it be a political decision a long time ago or a shift in the mindset of people.
>>17108769
What happened was that people on /adv/ stopped asking for advice
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that divorce is more socially acceptable and women have joined the work force they are able to leave unhappy marriages if they need to and vice versa. I would not say the quality has gone down, personally.
>>17108769
there have been great changes and strides in human relationships.
however i think the biggest change you are noticing is simply what you've observed vs what you experienced.
as in, you grew up thinking that something was one way cuz you saw it from a distance. you only saw the surface value and a lot of TV. now you are experiencing it and its not that different from what everyone has experienced. but now you see the inner workings, not just the surface.
on top of that the internet has made it easier to talk about such things. back in the day you only talked to people you knew. now you can type in your opinion and see a million people parrot it across the web.
as for divorce, the only reason its so popular now is because it is legal. it wasn't before. this isnt a shift in human relationships, just a shift in the execution of them. people always wanted to get divorced. the concept of marriage was always flawed.
another reason people are more lenient and bouncy in relationships is simply the ample access to them.
it was harder to 'date' before and it wasnt something you were expected to do until you got older. the farther back you go the harder it was, leading back to arranged marriages.
remember your first relationship? imagine if they had simply said you were stuck with her for life, and on top of that you had limited contact with any other women and virtually no porn?
cont.
>>17109151
you'd be able to last a lot longer with her. not forever, not a life sentence or the average marriage. but you could last longer with her cuz you were still 'sensitive' to these types of emotions.
we experience more break ups and heart break in our teen years than many adults did in their entire lives a few generations back. the more you experience, the more numb to it you become. as we get older we feel feelings less intensely and they dont last as long.
but if you had virtually no contact with females until your twenties, didnt go to school wtih them, didnt work with them, and all that jazz, you'd be able to last longer and more passionately with them.
Welcome to the age of rabid materialism/consumerism where our minds are made up by corporations
>>17108769
Gynocentrism, feminism and undercalculated whiteknighting manginas did this
t. mgtow
>>17109194
It's easy to point the finger at one thing. In fact it isn't all corporations either. There are many factors that contributed to this, and what you listed seems to be some of the more insignificant speculations
Let these comics help you understand
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>>17109249
Post modernism is an inherent paradox, you know that right, Edgy Johnny?
>>17109282
Okay?
>>17109282
can you explain? im not even sure what post modernism is but how is it inhernetly a paradox?
not being rude, im legitimately curious and dont mind learning
>>17109372
Well I think post modernism is an art style that has to do mostly with literature. I think it has to do with completely changing literature to focus on the everyday things and the story itself or something. I don't remember much and i have no idea what the guy was referring to
>>17109170
Yeah what the fuck? Jesus millennial's depress the living fuck out of me. Google self fulfilling prophecy. Then google millennial's are horrible and read every 20,000 results.
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>>17109395
postmodernism is a philosophical perspective which acknowledges the subjective nature of ideology, yet attempts to rise above it, place it all in perspective, and define it, thereby forming an ideology, thus paradox
>>17109513
And what does that have to do with anything?
>>17108769
> All Ik is the quality of interpersonal relationships, not just between genders in a romantic sense--but people in general has gone down
It seems more likely to me that quality of relationships has always been like this, it's just that information about it was much less easy to come by before the internet, as the only source was your personal experience and that of those you associated with.
People are shit to each other, but they've always been shit to each other, they're not really any worse now than they ever were.
>>17109582
I don't know. I'm not that guy. I presume he means that these Calvin and Hobbes comics, in their critiques of conventional social ideology, suggest an ideology which is equally subject to criticism, but which we are unable to see as clearly.
>>17109623
They don't really critique conventional social ideology in my opinion, but provide conventional wisdom. They're certianly not post modern
