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>Just found out my girlfriend of a year lost her virginity when she was 12
>And that from the age of 12-23 (when she met me), she slept with "35" men
First thing that came to mind was that clip of the guy finding out his girlfriend is a whore and as she was leaving for work or whatever he told her not to suck any dick on the way to the parking lot. So that is essentially what I told her, when she had to leave my place a few hours ago to see her parents.
She actually started to cry as she walked out. I almost wanted to laugh. Almost. I apologized, but said that those two things combined really are killing the relationship for me right now. She asked if I was dumping her, I said no, I just don't know what to do.
So what do I do /adv/? She's been pestering me on the phone non stop, constantly telling me how much she loves me etc. I feel pretty shitty knowing she has had 35 dicks in her, which if the average was 6 inches, that is 17 and a half feet worth of dick that has been in there. How am I supposed to just get over this?
>>17076467
Is this that bad for you and your relationship ?
I mean yeah, she fucked, so what, everyone fucks. She can't unfuck people for you. It's her past. Doesn't mean she's a cheater
Isn't this pasta?
>>17076477
most women have not had sex with 35 men by the age of 23
>>17076477
Yup, I've only been with 2 girls, who were long term relationships. So it is that big of a deal for me.
>>17076486
I don't think so, but it does remind me of the anon who did the math for how many miles of dick some OPs gf had. Anyone have the image?
>>17076501
That is where I got the idea for the footage of dick that's been inside my GF.
If you can google it, its pretty easy to find I think.
>>17076467
So you found out that your girlfriend was essentially sexually abused at the age of 12 and then from that point on suffered from extreme sexual and emotional dysfunction stemming from that abuse and your response to that was to tell her not to suck any dick on the way to the parking lot.
You find out your girlfriend was taken advantage of since she was a 12 year old fucking child and your only concern is for your own pride?
She was abused and all you can think about is the number of dicks that have been in her without any sympathy or consideration at all for the REASON.
And then you laugh at her? She bursts into tears over this horrible childhood she had and you fucking laugh at her?
You're a piece of shit. The worst kind. You shouldn't get over this, you should break up with her, she deserves way better than you.
Her abuse as a child programmed her to be attracted to assholes and guess what buddy, you're a grade A, 100% top class asshole of the finest quality.
You disgust me, OP.
>>17076519
She wasn't abused as a child, mr. cuck. She fucked neighborhood 12 year old boy, after watching porn that she stole from her moms room. And past a certain point, this made up "abuse" stops becoming an excuse to fuck anything that walks.
>>17076519
How the fuck do you know she was abused? She could have lost it by raping a 6 year old for all you know.
>>17076467
>she has had 35 dicks in her, which if the average was 6 inches, that is 17 and a half feet worth of dick that has been in there.
Thanks, OP. That made my day at work a little more humorous.
>>17076519
>louis
>makes a colossal assumption to forgive what op's gf has done, even though its not even a real excuse for her behavior
>this pathetic of a post
Louis the cuck ck strikes again.
>>17076467
>So what do I do /adv/? She's been pestering me on the phone non stop, constantly telling me how much she loves me etc. I feel pretty shitty knowing she has had 35 dicks in her, which if the average was 6 inches, that is 17 and a half feet worth of dick that has been in there. How am I supposed to just get over this?
Honestly, real talk; she's manipulating you
If I were you, I'll just use her for a while and dump her. Or alternatively, downgrade her to a fwb partner and find a new girl. She's trying to manipulate you to stay for good . Girls often do this shit once the cat is let out of the bag in regards to sexual history.
What you'll choose is up to you. Just keep in mind she isn't wife material; though don't tell her that. Even if you downgrade the relationship to fwb status, don't tell her why; just say you aren't ready for serious commitment but enjoy your time with her. If you are gonna dump, call her and tell her it's over without any explanation, she isn't owned one at all. And then cut contact
You get over it by taking matters in your own hand. Not conforming your values to some other cuck. Be a man for once and do something
>>17076467
Let's be real, OP. You're just jelly your gf got more sex than you.
That being said, if this is something that truly goes against your morals or whatever, break up. What do you even mean by "get over this"? This either bothers you or it doesn't.
Be sure to ask the next girl appropriate questions before wasting both of your time.
Please, for the love of god dump this walking tunnel. 35 dicks, fucking christ.
>>17076467
>First thing that came to mind was that clip of the guy finding out his girlfriend is a whore and as she was leaving for work or whatever he told her not to suck any dick on the way to the parking lot. So that is essentially what I told her, when she had to leave my place a few hours ago to see her parents.
>She actually started to cry as she walked out. I almost wanted to laugh. Almost. I apologized
Kek. I don't know what kind of advice you want to hear, really. You can either deal with it or you can't. If you can, and you're sure she isn't still slutting it up to this day, then buck up and move forward with your lives. If you can't, give the bitch some change for the bus and move on with your life.
>>17076546
>If I were you, I'll just use her for a while and dump her.
OP's position is understandable. What you're suggesting is disgusting.
Could be worse, OP.
At least you're not dating a porn star
At least you're not dating a prostitute
At least you're not dating an escort
At least you're not Anthony Burch
Honestly, if I was a close friend of yours, I would probably occasionally rib you for having that kind of girlfriend, but I would judge you far less than people with much less savory partners.
Holy shit, first of all I had a great fucking laugh OP. Really.
2nd, this is not wife material. Under any circumstance. You can keep fucking her if you can tolerate it, but otherwise just move on. Someone like this can't and shouldn't be trusted.
>>17076560
oh no don't hurt the poor girl by just using her for sex because obviously she's not used to it
>>17076528
>>17076526
I'll break this down for you in the easiest way I can for your simple mind because for some reason understanding anything beyond your own pride is called being a cuck.
Children experiment, children are curious, but 99% of the time in cases like these (cases I've worked with my entire life, I'm a mental health professional) sex that is introduced at such a young age permanently alters and sometimes ceases development. Sex is always introduced at such a young age through abuse. Either she was abused at a younger age or the "neighbor boy" was.
SOMETHING happened in this girls life, whether it be developmental or environmental that hyper sexualized her, which is an actual condition. Who knows if it was an adult or another child but yes, child on child intercourse at such a young age is abuse. Sexual experimentation is a learned behavior in children. One of them was exposed at a young age and they reenacted the behavior.
Children want to please adults, they want to fit in, so when sex is introduced at such a young age it permanently alters the way she views sex. She essentially has sex to get people to care about her and love her because thats the way a child would view it. You think children can have consistent sex at such a young age and it doesn't change them?
She is an adult at this point and it is her responsibility to seek help for her issues but I can give you my professional guarantee that she was abused.
My disgust is not with the fact that you were bothered or disturbed by her sexual past; I would be too, especially in a relationship.
My disgust is that you mock her and laugh at her WHILE SHE IS CRYING and display absolutely no sympathy at all. All you care about is yourself.
You're horrifically childish and I mean what I said; she deserves someone that will support her, someone better than you.
>>17076560
Not him, but why? Either she's doing the same to him, or he'll be just like most of those other 35 dudes.
I'm truly saying this from the bottom of my heart. OP, if this is b8, you have some serious fucking skill my man.
This is some god tier ruse shit, without being really blatant.
>>17076558
This
Don't try to deal with it if you can't. If it bothers you too much then dump her, if not then get over it
I say apologize then think about it for a month. If you're still annoyed and insecure about it in a month, then dump her
>>17076574
>Children experiment, children are curious, but 99% of the time in cases like these (cases I've worked with my entire life, I'm a mental health professional)
Opinion disregarded here.
You're a mental health professional so naturally all the people you encounter who have had sex at a young age have been abused. However all the people who have sex at a young age with others of a similar age where it isn't abuse aren't people who you've met and spoken to about the situation since they don't require your services.
>>17076574
Horseshit. By the time I was twelve, I was masturbating daily. Given the opportunity, I would have had sex with a twelve year old girl. Twelve is not "such a young age". It's the peak of puberty.
>>17076593
>It's the peak of puberty.
For most girls, it's the beginning of puberty, not the peak. Pretty sure it isn't considered the 'peak' of puberty for boys either.
>>17076600
>She didn't cry until AFTER I made the joke.
>told her not to suck any dick on the way to the parking lot
>joke
Dude, you're messed up. No one is ever going to consider that a 'joke.' Fuck man.
If you want to break up with her, you don't even need a reason. But dear lord don't fuck with her like a bitch.
>>17076546
>>17076535
>>17076528
>>17076526
>>17076560
The fact that men like you exist is a terrible burden on the world.
I'm not telling OP to stay with this girl, I'm telling him he's not emotionally or intellectually mature enough to help her address or understand her issues and should break up with her and move on before he does more damage to this poor girl.
A 12 year old girl has sex and your first instinct is to call her a slut, not maybe ask why a 12 year old knows what sex is or where or who taught her or why she's living in an environment where she isn't being taught or supervised. She was a child who should of had someone looking out for her and teaching her to respect herself and demand other people respect her and the adults in her life failed her.
Its terrible, really, and none of you can think further than the tip of your dicks to realize it. I'm usually pretty tolerant of you /r9k/ manboys but today I'm genuinely telling you that you're berating a person who went through something terrible as a child and spent her entire life thinking that having sex with men is how you get them to love you. She was taught wrong and now she's doomed to attract guys just like you for the rest of her life.
You don't have to date a girl with emotional problems just don't use her and dump her and torture her any more than she already has been. That's fucking psychopathic. Just leave her alone, man.
You guys are the dullest most irreparable group of human beings on the internet and I hope you all get hit by buses.
>>17076611
>No one is ever going to consider that a 'joke.'
I just came into this thread not too long ago, and while I find it a little extreme, it's still far from the harshest joke I've ever read or heard.
>>17076601
As far as it being the point where I was the horniest and wanted sex the most, it was pretty much age 12 to 14.
Regardless, sexual feelings don't just start to exist when puberty happens, sexual feelings exist from early childhood and then explode once puberty begins. Anybody who thinks that it's impossible for a 12 year old girl to independently come to want sex is wrong, "mental health professional" or not.
>>17076519
>>17076574
>>17076616
Kek, typical intricate /adv/ b8er defending the wymyn. Please don't listen, OP. This guy REALLY wants you to be a cuck for some reason.
>>17076616
I'm 99% certain this is a woman now.
Either way, whose to say I owe it to her to help her address her "issues" by being with her? If that's what I thought I was getting into, I would have dumped her forever ago. I'm not her therapist.
And there comes a point, where you just can't continue being a slut just because of your non existent abuse. She had to on some level realized she was behaving like a whore, but she continued anyways.
That isn't my fault. I've decided I'm staying with her by the way. Just for a little bit, so I can have a bit more fun before things go south.
>>17076616
>not maybe ask why a 12 year old knows what sex is or where or who taught her
Guess what dickcheese, I had sex-ed in 5th grade when I was 11, and I was fucking well behind a lot of my peers at that point. When did you first learn about sex, 18? 12 year olds are not "young children", they're basically teenagers.
>>17076643
Based OP is based, good decision.
Get fucking ballsy during the last week before the breakup. Ask for a threesome or something stupid like that
>>17076590
>You're a mental health professional so naturally all the people you encounter who have had sex at a young age have been abused.
I wish I could break down my 15 years of training and experience in a way you could understand but I'll just sum it up by saying I've talked to hundreds upon hundreds of girls identical to OP's girlfriend.
You can try to justify any reason you want to to string this girl up and flog her for her choices but I'm not telling OP he should stay with her. I'm telling him not to make it worse.
There's something wrong with her because of what happened to her as a child and OP is not equipped nor willing to help. All he can see is the sex, not the dysfunction or the reasons why.
>>17076593
>Horseshit. By the time I was twelve, I was masturbating daily
Masturbating is an act discovered by a child on their own. Discovering masturbation at 12 and discovering full on sex are two different things. I honestly don't know why I'm arguing with you because nothing I say will convince you.
>Twelve is not "such a young age". It's the peak of puberty.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about. I don't have enough word allowance to inform how the entire field of medicine disagrees with you.
>>17076600
>And I have serious worries about you being a mental health professional. Because you're projecting a bit.
No, I just know things you don't. I wish you could step in my shoes for a day and listen to half of the horrific stories I hear on a daily basis. You're right, I am projecting, I'm projecting my sympathy on to OP and my anger to the people in her life who treat her like shit because I've seen it hundreds of times.
None of you will understand what I'm talking about, I've resided myself to that fact.
>>17076623
Just to be clear, I'm not "mental-health-professional" anon. I also think his argument has very little do to with OP's overall problem and decision.
I actually went through puberty very young as a girl (9yo), so I agree wholeheartedly that a 12 yo girl can have heavy sexual feelings. However, I can also attest to the fact that no other girl my age that I knew remotely thought about sex until maybe 14-15. And then it was mostly fangirling over bands and actors and crap, so I'm not even sure if that counts.
Anyway, I was just pointing out that your experience (and mine) are not the norm.
>>17076467
Yeah OK that was pretty funny IG useless since you didn't make a video and not that funny if you loved her before you should love her now and one day if she does cheat on you you can verbally demolish her but now it serves no purpose but to convince her to leave and lose a bunch of self worth
>>17076637
>Kek, typical intricate /adv/ b8er defending the wymyn. Please don't listen, OP. This guy REALLY wants you to be a cuck for some reason.
If you were reading you'd see that I told OP a million times to break up with her. He does not belong with this girl.
>Either way, whose to say I owe it to her to help her address her "issues" by being with her? If that's what I thought I was getting into, I would have dumped her forever ago. I'm not her therapist.
Thats exactly what I said. You shouldn't be with her. You're not mentally or, frankly, intellectually equipped to help her. She probably has no business being in a relationship until she gets help.
>And there comes a point, where you just can't continue being a slut just because of your non existent abuse. She had to on some level realized she was behaving like a whore, but she continued anyways.
I can't explain in words how dumb you are.
>I've decided I'm staying with her by the way. Just for a little bit, so I can have a bit more fun before things go south.
You're a gigantic piece of shit.
>Guess what dickcheese, I had sex-ed in 5th grade when I was 11, and I was fucking well behind a lot of my peers at that point. When did you first learn about sex, 18? 12 year olds are not "young children", they're basically teenagers.
I don't have the time to explain developmental psychology to you but I'll just sum it up by saying you're 100% wrong and you're using your own personal experience empirical evidence for a topic you know absolutely nothing about.
>>17076660
>You can try to justify any reason you want to to string this girl up and flog her for her choices
I'm not doing that though, stop your faggot projecting. My point was simply that just because a lot of cases of sex at a young age involve abuse doesn't mean they all do, nor does it mean every person who has had sex at a young age is mentally unwell.
Your 15 years of training and experience can sit on my dick you up-jumped fuck.
>>17076660
>Masturbating is an act discovered by a child on their own. Discovering masturbation at 12 and discovering full on sex are two different things. I honestly don't know why I'm arguing with you because nothing I say will convince you.
I discovered masturbation and sex at the same time, through the same avenues. Sex-ed, erotic stories online, porn, movies, all that shit. I really don't understand how a 12 year old would not "discover" sex in our culture unless they were extraordinarily sheltered, and I was a pretty sheltered kid.
And your training and experience doesn't mean shit as far as I'm concerned. I've dealt with "mental health professionals" my entire life. You're completely worthless.
>>17076643
>I've decided I'm staying with her by the way. Just for a little bit, so I can have a bit more fun before things go south.
You're a terrible piece of shit and she deserves way better than you. She could fuck 100 guys every day for the rest of her life and she couldn't come close to the level of deranged asshole you are.
>>17076673
>if you loved her before you should love her now
So you love all your exes? Wow.
>>17076660
>>17076687
>durr I don't have time to explain why your experience is incorrect I'M A PROFESSIONAL
kill yourself, shitheel
>>17076660
>>17076687
You know, for being a professional, you sure are pretty terrible at explaining things related to your profession.
Realise that whilst she is not a bad person her values regarding intimacy do not align with your own.
There is literally nothing wrong with judging a person based on their actions.
>>17076696
>And your training and experience doesn't mean shit as far as I'm concerned
Don't care.
>I discovered masturbation and sex at the same time, through the same avenues. Sex-ed, erotic stories online, porn, movies, all that shit.
Again, just because you had a personal experience and you feel you "turned out fine" does not mean it applies to every child.
Thats like saying you went base jumping one time and didn't die so now its completely safe for everyone. Your opinions are worthless because the only reference you have is yourself, not facts, studies, training or experiences outside of your own deluded mind.
>Your 15 years of training and experience can sit on my dick you up-jumped fuck.
You have no idea what you're talking about and its ok. You speak about a topic you have no experience or knowledge in and your only response to my leveled and knowledgable statements is to throw insults and empirical evidence at it.
>My point was simply that just because a lot of cases of sex at a young age involve abuse doesn't mean they all do
Again, if you knew anything psychosexual development or the developmental stages of a child you would know you're wrong, but you know nothing about it so of course you think you're right.
I could get into it with you but seeing as how you're pulling every statement out of your ass it would be like arguing physics with a stump.
>>17076687
PLEASE tell me you're an elaborate troll, you seem like a pompous asshole.
>>17076643
>I've decided I'm staying with her by the way. Just for a little bit, so I can have a bit more fun before things go south.
You're gross, OP. Hope karma makes you her bitch.
>>17076716
>Again, just because you had a personal experience and you feel you "turned out fine" does not mean it applies to every child.
And again, just because you know a bunch of people who turned out fucked up on account of the fact your proffession revolves around meeting fucked up people doesn't mean everyone who went through a similar thing is fucked up.
You might as well say your friend died whilst base jumping therefore everyone who base jumped ever is dead and base jumping is certain suicide.
You're a complete fucking moron.
>>17076716
>Again, just because you had a personal experience and you feel you "turned out fine" does not mean it applies to every child.
It applies to me and the majority of people I've known and talked to. I mean seriously dude, I just told you that I had SEXUAL EDUCATION IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL WHEN I WAS 11, and you're telling me that no, that was just my personal anecdotal experience?
>>17076719
>gross
Found the fat chick.
>>17076712
>You know, for being a professional, you sure are pretty terrible at explaining things related to your profession.
I'm a professional, not a miracle worker. I have the time, word limit nor resources to reprogram the some odd two decades of stupidity you've been raised in.
I'm currently in my home office and as much as I'd like to cite resources and studies and dig up some of my old thesis papers to show you I'm not going to do that because I'm not your goddamn psyche professor and most of you are too attached to your insecurity and short-sightedness to accept any other truth than the truth you have constructed in your own mind.
If you have any questions I'll gladly answer them but my goal here isn't to "change your mind", my goal is just to give the facts. Whether or not you want to accept them is beyond my expertise or concern.
To be fair, you're all children as well. I wouldn't expect any of you to understand nor accept information that challenges your fragile sense of self.
If you admit you're wrong once you have to reevaluate the way you live your life, the decision you've made and the way you've treated people and guys at your age just aren't ready to do that.
>>17076736
>If you have any questions I'll gladly answer them
You're a chick aren't you?
>>17076736
>my goal is just to give the facts
You haven't given any facts.
For not having the word limit to explain anything, your posts sure are fucking long.
>>17076736
>To be fair, you're all children as well.
Says the 30 something mental health professional spending her precious time hanging out with us. This argument is always so ridiculous.
>>17076730
>And again, just because you know a bunch of people who turned out fucked up on account of the fact your proffession revolves around meeting fucked up people doesn't mean everyone who went through a similar thing is fucked up.
And again, you know nothing about psychosexual development or developmental stages of children. I can't explain to you why you're wrong because you lack the knowledge to understand why.
>You're a complete fucking moron.
Look who's projecting now.
>I just told you that I had SEXUAL EDUCATION IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL WHEN I WAS 11, and you're telling me that no, that was just my personal anecdotal experience?
You think coloring in pictures of uteruses and looking at diagrams of vaginas makes you some sort of authority on the sexual development of every child your age?
I'm sorry to disappoint you but your one week grade school crash course on the birds and the bees isn't indicative of any generally accepted scientific or psychological trends.
>It applies to me and the majority of people I've known and talked to
You literally just defined "empirical evidence"
Basically you and the people you socialize with have one experience so you think thats evidence that it should be the same for everyone else.
>>17076743
>Says the 30 something mental health professional spending her precious time hanging out with us. This argument is always so ridiculous.
Not a girl. I know thats a convenient excuse for why I'm talking about a female's issues but, sorry, nope.
>You haven't given any facts.
You do realize that psychology isn't like math, right? I can't just show you an equation and let that stand as proof for why I'm right.
If you'd like for me to cite studies I suppose I could but to be fair none of you are interested in learning anything, its just very important for you to ridicule me and prove me wrong because if you accept for a moment that I might be correct your fragile adolescent belief system would be challenged.
Not one of you has ASKED a question or shown even a minimal amount of curiosity as to the research backing my statements, just insults ands "NUH UH, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO IS WRONG"
You debate like a child and then you're shocked when I talk to you like one?
Curious.
>You're a chick aren't you?
Nope.
>>17076747
>Basically you and the people you socialize with have one experience so you think thats evidence that it should be the same for everyone else.
Says the faggot claiming that everyone who has any kind of practical experience with sex at a young age is definitely fucked up.
You're claiming everyone is the same then saying other people are wrong because not everyone is actually the same. You're a fucking moron.
>>17076747
>You think coloring in pictures of uteruses and looking at diagrams of vaginas makes you some sort of authority on the sexual development of every child your age?
Are you seriously just trolling?
I learned about SEX from sex-ed, and no it wasn't just pictures of genitals. It wasn't an explicit direct guide on how to fuck, but the realities and mechanisms of sex were explained enough that to say that helped me "discover sex". Me and the other 30 kids in that class, and however many thousands, millions of kids were in similar classes at similar ages. But somehow, it's just me and a tiny minority who parlayed this direct education into an actual interest in sex. Sure.
>Basically you and the people you socialize with have one experience so you think thats evidence that it should be the same for everyone else.
No I think it's evidence that it is similar for a significant number of people, and your declaration that "99%" of twelve year olds who are interested in sex were abused by adults is complete horseshit.
>>17076574
You sound a bit like a condescending prick for a mental health professional desu. You can't expect the average joe to come to these conclusions
I hope you aren't this way to your patients or what have you
>>17076758
>Not one of you has ASKED a question or shown even a minimal amount of curiosity as to the research backing my statements
Your first time citing any type of experience or research was you saying,
>I wish I could break down my 15 years of training and experience in a way you could understand
When someone jumps into an argument by saying, "I'm definitely right and you're just too stupid to understand why," the natural response isn't to say, "Hmm, that must be so," it's to say, "Go fuck yourself."
As such a learned and experienced mental health professional you should be able to understand this basic aspect of human nature. You dumb fuck.
>>17076758
>You do realize that psychology isn't like math, right?
I realize, acutely, that psychology is bullshit disreputable soft science, yeah.
>>17076734
You're stereotype needs fine-tuning.
>>17076758
>Not a girl. I know thats a convenient excuse for why I'm talking about a female's issues but, sorry, nope.
Actually I assumed you were female because you argue like one, it's very passive-aggressive and conceited, and your only basis for being right is that you're right because you're right.
>>17076616
>ask why a 12 year old knows what sex is or where or who taught her or why she's living in an environment where she isn't being taught or supervised
This one is rich. You think 12yo are sweet innocent creatures. It's like you've never been a teenager yourself
>>17076775
Fat guy who wants to be a chick?
>>17076495
A little insecure are we? She probably loved all that dick too, and I can guarantee that you weren't her best. Get over it.
>>17076747
>durr I haven't addressed any arguments but listen to me because I took four years of jew psychology classes and I am a certified aspie yet will not take time to cite this, only grandizing myself
Bottom line is, that girl knew what she was doing was wrong and she is emotionally damaged to the point where it wasn't something OP signed onto. There is nothing wrong with him leaving her at this point. Feel free to call him tumblr insult words like "piece of shit" or whatever. It's not fun to be lead on and invest yourself in a slut. Tell yourself whatever you want, but men don't want that and don't expect them to or judge them harshly for doing so.
>>17076759
>Says the faggot claiming that everyone who has any kind of practical experience with sex at a young age is definitely fucked up.
Not what I said. Read my responses and try again. You're trying to straw man and I'm sure it works with the other dumb dumbs here but I'm not biting.
>You're claiming everyone is the same then saying other people are wrong because not everyone is actually the same
Again, not what I said. You should read better.
>"99%" of twelve year olds who are interested in sex were abused by adults is complete horseshit.
Not what I said. Again, if you're going to try to address statements you should make sure that you read them carefully and understand what you're responding to.
>But somehow, it's just me and a tiny minority who parlayed this direct education into an actual interest in sex. Sure.
I have a few studies that you should read. For some reason you're not understanding the giant logical gap in your statements.
Sex ed, while helpful at early stages, is not a replacement for parental guidance, supervision and encouragement. If you weren't sexually abused as a child then sex ed was probably very helpful for you but also did nothing to address the morality of sex, when its appropriate to express yourself sexually or the long term ramifications of sex on yourself and your relationships.
Sex ed doesn't "fix" sexual dysfunction in children. I'm not sure if that was your point but the fact that you took sex ed and you turned out fine is not evidence of any larger pattern, its an anecdotal story that means nothing.
Again, your week long sex ed class when you were 11, while I'm sure was a great time for you and your buddies, has nearly nothing to do with the psychological aspects of sex that I was discussing.
>>17076788
>99% of western girls having sex at a young age were abused hurr
if it matters to you, don't wait a year to ask about sexual history
it should be you first priority, when you meet a girl. like "hi, how many men have jizzed up in there?"
you need to know you're sticking your dick in a puddle of 35 dudes sperms, that won't wash off
you got it all over your penis, and some went up your dickhole. now it's in your blood. 35 million sperms all over you
did you get some in your mouth too?
>>17076788
>Not what I said.
>>17076574
>99% of the time in cases like these (cases I've worked with my entire life, I'm a mental health professional) sex that is introduced at such a young age permanently alters and sometimes ceases development. Sex is always introduced at such a young age through abuse.
>>17076788
>Children experiment, children are curious, but 99% of the time in cases like these (cases I've worked with my entire life, I'm a mental health professional) sex that is introduced at such a young age permanently alters and sometimes ceases development
This statement you made earlier in the thread and,
>claiming that everyone who has any kind of practical experience with sex at a young age is definitely fucked up
Are basically the same thing. Explain why they're not or go choke on an appropriate amount of dicks until you die.
>>17076504
I'm just starting to see a 25yo who has fucked about 15>20. She was really worried I would judge her.
Honestly though, I don't give a fuck. She's great in the sack as she has experience, and her bj's are literally the first time I've enjoyed receiving head. Feels like my eyes are retracting into my skull when she's at it, fucking lol.
My first gf was an innocent virgin, and I enjoyed that too.
IDK. Maybe just enjoy the relationship without being insecure? Right now she's choosing your dick so maybe just enjoy that?
>>17076768
>I realize, acutely, that psychology is bullshit disreputable soft science, yeah.
Easy to say that when you know nothing about it.
>Actually I assumed you were female because you argue like one, it's very passive-aggressive and conceited
lol
>As such a learned and experienced mental health professional you should be able to understand this basic aspect of human nature.
I'm arguing with children. I'm in over my head as much as it is. I tried explaining myself in the first few posts but the general consensus was "NO YOUR EXPERIENCE IS WRONG", so, I've done what I can.
Like I said, you guys aren't interested in debating or learning anything, just proving me wrong to justify your own belief system. If you're genuinely interested in the sources and experiences I get my information from I'd gladly correspond privately with any of you and help you out. Just don't be an asshole about it.
My quarrel wasn't even with any of you. I call OP an asshole for being proud of himself for abusing an emotionally troubled girl and "using her" until things go south and suddenly I'm the bad guy.
That says more about the rest of you than it does about me.
>Bottom line is, that girl knew what she was doing was wrong
A great assumption.
>she is emotionally damaged to the point where it wasn't something OP signed onto
Correct. He's not equipped nor willing to deal with it which means they should break up.
>There is nothing wrong with him leaving her at this point
I've said that probably about 15 times. I encouraged it, highly.
>Feel free to call him tumblr insult words like "piece of shit" or whatever
I feel like "piece of shit" was around long before tumblr. I called him piece of a shit because his response to hearing her past was to laugh at her, insult her, and then tell us he plans on continuing to fuck her until he gets bored and then getting rid of her.
I wish you guys read better.
>>17076788
Also
>Masturbating is an act discovered by a child on their own. Discovering masturbation at 12 and discovering full on sex are two different things. I honestly don't know why I'm arguing with you because nothing I say will convince you.
The entire reason I brought up sex-ed was to point out that this is bullshit. I'm not saying that sex-ed "helped me", I'm saying that sex was introduced to me and millions of other kids BY SEX ED, NOT BY ABUSE.
>>17076807
Haha, was waiting for that. Saved.
Very simple, OP. You're not comfortable with it. Let it go. You have the right to know what kind of qualities, and even experiences, you want in a person just like anyone else.
But so long as the person didn't lie to your or mistreat you in the process, it is ALWAYS a dick move to belittle someone for not being what you hoped for.
>>17076797
>99% of western girls having sex at a young age were abused hurr
Not what I said.
>Sex is always introduced at such a young age through abuse.
If you knew the clinical definition of abuse you'd understand what I meant.
>99% of the time in cases like these (cases I've worked with my entire life, I'm a mental health professional) sex that is introduced at such a young age permanently alters and sometimes ceases development
Yes, it does alter and sometimes cease development. I stand behind that. I'm confused as to exactly what you're "getting me" on here.
>Are basically the same thing
Lol so basically you saw that it in fact wasn't what I said so you summarized my words to fit your narrative. Smooth move.
>>17076829
How does, "Alter and ceases development," not equate to being, "Fucked up."
Again you've said many words without actually explaining a single god damned thing.
>>17076816
>Like I said, you guys aren't interested in debating or learning anything, just proving me wrong to justify your own belief system.
And the only reason you don't see how your exact behaviour mirrors this is because you already decided you were right before the argument began, the exact behaviours you're denouncing everybody else for.
More than one US President married 13 year old girls. If anything, the age a girl loses her virginity has increased dramatically in the last one hundred years. In no way are girls losing their virginity younger.
>>17076829
If you spent one tenth of the time you've spent posting in this thread explaining ANYTHING at all, you might have actually said something that somebody would be able to understand.
I honestly do not understand the value of a professional who literally cannot explain one single thing about their profession to laypersons.
Young girls who are abused become nuns
that's how it's always been.
>>17076816
At least cite a review article or textbook. Point us to fucking wikipedia if you have to. You have literally no credibility.
>>17076816
>I realize, acutely, that psychology is bullshit disreputable soft science, yeah.
>Easy to say that when you know nothing about it
watch and learn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II96QkZaz1E
>>17076467
ROFL where do u live in the south? dont suck any dick on the way out? dam
>people actually think that all 12 year olds who have sex are "damaged" through abuse
Haha, please. My Middle School had tons of kids fucking each other.
>>17076526
shouldnt judge others abuse. if shes upset about it she clearly was.
>>17076991
>if shes upset about it she clearly was.
If I kill someone and say it was in self-defence and someone says it wasn't in self-defence and I start crying that means I'm definitely innocent?
>>17076990
right? show me one student who didn't bang a teacher. it's a stressful job.
>>17076467
Does she take it up the ass?
>>17077004
I think that depends on what state you reside in
>>17076467
>which if the average was 6 inches, that is 17 and a half feet worth of dick that has been in there
Your maths is out.....
35 x 6' = 210 inches for only 1 stroke of each dick.
But assuming each guy had 50 strokes and visited her vag at least twice then that's at least 100 strokes each dude.
So it's...
100 x 6 x 35 = 21000 inches or 1750 feet or almost 1/3 of a mile of penis that has slid in and out of her.
If each guy cums around 5ml (0.17 fl oz) that's 35 x 2 x 5 = 350ml or 11.9 oz of cum that's been splooged in there. Next time you drink a can of Coke and it's trickling down you throat remember that's the same amount that's trickled out of you know where.
>>17077006
Nah, I don't think the kids would have used that as stress relief.
>>17077031
Man I understand you gotta make a point and I like your work really but why you gotta go ruining coke like that?
Yikes.
Think about the possibility of her having an STD.
>>17077053
or 4 or 5 of them!
>>17077053
1 in 3 if she's American.
STDs are not illegal, you can get them anywhere
literally every girl you see on the street has an STD. virgins with no STDs don't go out, they stay home
Whores are awesome!
I don't understand what the huge issue is. I was molested at 8, and just like the mental health anon would predict, I became overly sexuallized and by the time I was 21 I had sex with about 45 men. Luckily I had a break down and started therapy and learned that I wasnt obligated to sleep with anyone. For two years I was celibate and then I met my husband. He knows how many men I've been with and after like a day or two of being shocked, he got over it. We've been happily married for 5 years and have two beautiful children. Our marriage is strong and he's my best friend. Having lots of partners doesn't mean you're damaged goods.
>>17077124
Yes it does actually. Just got to find someone that is willing to deal with that.
>>17077124
99.9% of people will think you are. They key is finding someone who can be tricked into thinking you aren't.
>>17077129
But what about multiple partners makes them a bad spouse? Do women who has been with lots of men make terrible dinner? Do they not clean the house? I don't get it.
>>17077124
>Having lots of partners doesn't mean you're damaged goods.
Your own experience says otherwise.
>I had a break down and started therapy
Now if someone says they had all those partners and had a breakdown and went through therapy and they have overcome their issue and been celibate for two years, then for me at least that won't be an absolute deal breaker.
But the situation OP is in is not that situation. He's with her pre-breakdown. Are you suggesting any relationship you had pre-breakdown could have had a fighting chance?
>>17077148
To echo you: Honestly, I don't understand what the huge issue is. If you're able to pull nearly four dozen men, then why worry? If a man doesn't want you, it really shouldn't be an issue for someone who can get a partner at the drop of a hat, so I don't see why you'd ever take issue with it.
>>17077148
In the eyes of most men, women who previously demonstrated super promiscuous behavior, should not and cannot be trusted. Its shows that you had an extreme lack of judgement, and no ability to form a lasting relationship. Basically you were a shit human being.
And the very large majority of the time, they are right. You're lucky you found someone who can look past that, because I guarantee you, his better judgement was telling him to fuck off as soon as he found out, regardless of what he might have said to you.
>>17076960
Hey where's that test that can tell you if you have an imbalance in your brain? Oh you don't have one? It's based off theory? Yeah that's called pseudo science.
>>17076574
You are pretty judgemental for a mental health proessional desu
>>17077332
Have you actually met many mental health professionals?
>>17077347
Not many, but a few. Also, I didn't mean to compare that anon with other possible mental health professionals that I may know personally, but with the idea of one that I have in my mind. And this idea certainly doesn't say stuff like:
>my disgust for you
That just doesn't seem like the kind of thing I'd expect senpai
>>17076784
Are you retarded?
I was a virgin when I started dating my gf. I don't know how many partners she's had. Probably at least 20. I know she was casually fucking one of my coworkers a few weeks prior to us dating. Thinking about her sexual past makes me uncomfortable, so I just don't ask her, despite my curiosity. It's probably not healthy but she's been pretty great to me and I don't want to make her upset.
I guess it's just my own insecurity mixed with jealousy.
>What if I'm not the best? I strive to be, but it's impossible to know.
>Why didn't I play the field before settling down with her?
>Does she view sex the same way I do?
I can't really talk to her about these feelings so I just bury them and hope they'll go away eventually
The pasts the past, if she's not like this anymore theres no need to hold it against her.
>>17077859
The only one of those that's really worth worrying about is the last one.
Agreeing or at least understanding each others' view on sex is something you and her should do.
You should probably talk about that one. If it's any consolation, it's fairly easy to bring up if you've any reputation as something of a thinker. Like, just ask the question some day when you know that you've got like, a free hour, out of nowhere. "Hey, how do you view sex?"
She may straight out answer, or she'll ask why, and just shrug and say "I was just thinking about the number of things you never know about a person, because you never think to ask. Like, I think of sex as (YOUR VIEW), but I don't know if you, or really anyone has that exact view."
Make it a low-stakes conversation.
The other two are negligible concerns. Whether or not you're her best sex is far less important than if you're her best boyfriend, in most value systems. And that latter quality will mean you can continue to try and improve, and will get more of it.
The middle one's just on you, so to speak, so it doesn't particularly affect your relationship with her unless it ends up driving you to dump her to try other ones.
>>17076467
QUIT SLUT SHAMING HER BECAUSE SHE'S A HUMAN BEING WHO LIKES SEX. SHE'S JUST AS VALUABLE AS ANY OTHER WOMAN.
just kidding, i'd dump her too. then probably be disgusted and sad when i see her rebound then get pumped and dumped a few more times.
>>17076736
>If you have any questions I'll gladly answer them
What exactly do you do? I'm serious, you said you've seen hundreds and hundreds of sexually abused girls but I could only imagine that happening if you worked in CPS or something.
>>17077868
"If she's not like this anymore"
That's the problem in situations like that, in the back of your mind you can't know for sure, especially if she wasn't honest about her past.
>>17077363
I was sort of joking. Like "Well,you must not have met many health professionals then!"
My psychiatrist treats patients dramatically different than the people that work in his office. Someone was trying to get the receptionists attention and he comes over like "This lady is freaking out because you're not acknowledging her and she's a person."
She wasn't, she maybe repeated herself a few times. Whereas the psychiatrist basically loudly berated the receptionist for not treating the patient like a person, and likely made everyone involved feel worse.
Anyway, he obviously doesn't symbolize all mental health professionals either. But how they treat patients and the things they've learned don't necessarily make them better more understanding people. They're as likely to be as judgmental as anyone else, they might just be careful enough to do so on 4chan so their job isn't affected.
35 dicks?
>>17077960
IM 37?!
