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I really really hate this hookup culture thing thats going around. Like people 'experimenting' and having a shitton of casual sex.
Honestly I dont see how anyone who engages or has engaged in casual sex can make any substantial argument for monogamy and there is no value to entering in a monogamous relationship with them.
But because so many women are whores it makes it hard to even look at a woman and consider her more than a fleshlight to relieve sexual frustration because thats how she acts.
What are some ways I can meet a woman who doesnt engage or has engaged in casual sex. Our beliefs are 100% incompatible and Im tired of falling for the trap of dating a girl only to find out she used to be a slut in college or something.
>>17025908
Church.
I'm not even that religious but I've befriended a bunch of religious boys because I have the same problem.
I'm a girl who's kept my virginity because I think it's reckless and irresponsible to sleep around when you wouldn't be able to financially support a child (on the off chance that one is conceived).
Most of my non religious guy friends were in to hookup culture in college and still kind of have slutty attitudes towards sex.
>>17025908
I recommend cutting your top knot off and stop watching anime
>>17025919
Church is a little extreme. Not really an environment to meet people.
>>17025919
are you me
>Most of my non religious guy friends were in to hookup culture in college and still kind of have slutty attitudes towards sex.
Well no shit fuckboys are into hook-up culture, the way men see it it's fine if a guy sleeps with multiple women because he's just spreading his seed around but it's degenerate for a woman to sleep around with multiple men because she can only have one baby at a time.
Also some men like to blame it on women because men sexualize women but guess who owns all the networks and companies that promote slut culture? Who are the ones profiting the most off of porn and slut culture?
It sure as fuck ain't women.
People can be bitter and mad about whores all they want but it won't do them a damn lick of good because whores aren't the root of the problem. Whores wouldn't do what they do if there wasn't a market for sex.
And that's where the real degeneracy lies, men trying to cheat natural selection using money.
>>17025908
>>17025919 has the right idea, but unfortunately the sluttiness problem may never go away unless we somehow manage to get puritanical morals to be popular again.
>>17025954
Protestant churches are pretty chill.
>waaa every1 is having sex except me!!
dude go fuck a escort if ur that jello
>>17025908
Grow up
>>17025908
Why are you so turned off by women (or, seemingly, men) who have casual sex? What are you so uptight about?
If you want to find a woman who'll wait until the honeymoon night, I'm sure there are plenty. Now get off 4chan and go find one, ya knob.
I think mostly women and pussy beta browse adv, don't listen to them
I agree breh, am disgusted by the fact that everyone is a sloot now, but an atheist so couldn't stand going to church or even just dating someone religious. Liked a chick a lot, found out she seems like a pretty slooty sloot, very bittersweet, like yeah I know for sure I'll fuck her now, but it's not even that big of a deal now knowing it's not THAT valuable, and that I could never date her even though she's really cool
>>17025996
>but an atheist
Stopped reading right there you meme loving fuck.
>>17025996
>I think mostly women and pussy beta browse adv, don't listen to them
>Liked a chick a lot, found out she seems like a pretty slooty sloot, very bittersweet, like yeah I know for sure I'll fuck her now, but it's not even that big of a deal now knowing it's not THAT valuable, and that I could never date her even though she's really cool
Hello pussy beta.
>>17025999
Lol oh yeah and christfaggots that don't understand science >>17026061
How's that? Because I hold myself to a higher standard than a slut everyone's already had? I mean sure I'll still fuck her, and the girls I date don't have to be Angels, but I want a high value woman because I'm a high value man.
>>17025908
> it makes it hard to even look at a woman and consider her more than a fleshlight
The problem honestly is yours. Even if woman engage in casual sex and acts on sexual desire it is you that sees them as whores. Having sex often is not being a whore. Acting on sexual desire is not being a whore.
You should understand that there is more in a lot of women despire their sexual behaviour. Try to grow up and to think out of schemes.
You will understand how beautiful some women are
>>17026107
>I'll still fuck her
Yeah, keep telling that to yourself
>I want a pure virgin 10/10 gf who will love me even when I am a fat unkempt neet living in mommy's basement
The world doesn't work that way, you know.
>>17025908
I woke up today with a terrible feeling and ill rant a bit about what caused it.
This is retarded, seriously. I want women to be slutty and willing to have sex, my first gf was fucking insane in that area.
She would litterally jump me at school and rub against me in every which way to get me going because she liked sex, that look in her eyes i will never ever forget.
Ive met ONE such girl since then who was actually interested in fucking and she actually got mad when i teased her, which ofc only made things hotter.
Wanting an inexperienced virgin girl is pure nonsense, sure you can live your life however you want and i wont stop you but you will never then know the pleasure of having your slutty gf teasing you because she wants to get laid.
Good day sir
>>17026131
There's a difference between wanting a virgin, and wanting someone who shares your values.
>>17026131
No I'm not OP but I'm in shape, have a managerial position at 24 and my own apartment etc. Totally fine with fat or ugly girls too. Much rather have an ugly virgin then a hot slut. You do realize 1/4 females have an STD right?
>>17026144
Good for you. So you place very high value on virginity, a bit of a strange taste, but whatever. I'm just happy my gf is gorgeous, and also nice and kind. I can't imagine rejecting her because she was not a virgin.
I'm not a religious girl. I have only had the one boyfriend and I'm long past 18. It is possible to meet girls who don't have casual sex. Old-fashioned girls are rare though.
>>17026141
>tfw I got a virgin qt who is a total freak and worships my cock
Step it up scrub
>>17025908
>But because so many women are whores it makes it hard to even look at a woman and consider her more than a fleshlight to relieve sexual frustration because thats how she acts.
Jesus Christ, go back to /r9k/, dude. You fuckers flood this board with the same butthurt manboy slut pasta and its a case of terminal nut cancer at best.
We get it, you didn't do too hot with the ladies in middle school/high school and you missed the boat for sexual/social experimentation so now as a painfully average looking man of slightly below average intelligence you have converted all your frustration, insecurity and failure into a crusade to find a woman who has saved herself just for the holy sacrament of your dick and your dick only i.e. a girl who has the same sexual experience to you because for some reason whenever you look at a girl who has been with a few guys she reminds you of alllllll the cheerleaders and preppy bitches in grade school that wouldn't give you a second glance.
Listen, I get it. No one wants to date a trashy girl who doesn't respect herself, and thats not what I'm telling you to do, but here's the secret;
normal, well adjusted men don't have this problem that you have.
Normal, well adjusted men, while at the same time sharing some of the same concerns you have, aren't deluded into thinking that a woman having sex with a few guys in college equates to being a fleshlight.
But honestly, you have your mindset and my goofy ass isn't going to convince you otherwise but do me a favor and move to a convent or a fucking mormon village because at this point your ideals have trapped you in a world where every woman you see is a whore, so instead of coming up in arms about it like the army of samefags behind you just grow a beard, move to an amish farm and fuck some frumpy bitch on a straw mattress so you can save us the pain of listening to you bitch and moan about how no girl you meet is never good enough for you.
>>17026217
See, and I'm OK with that too.
Even though I want to wait until I'm married I could easily forgive a few previous partners, so long as she's willing to date w/o sex.
>>17026234
I don't believe in casual sex. I don't even make a distinction between man and woman there. Sex has no meaning these days. It's become just an act of lust
>>17026238
I know. it's gross. You see all these single moms and EVERYONE has an std these days.
>>17026240
Yeah, STDs scare me as well. I am still with the guy I lost my virginity with and he was a virgin too so never had to worry about that.
>>17026238
>Sex has no meaning these days. It's become just an act of lust
>le everything was better in the old days and people didn't have sex meme
Sex has always been around. People have always had sex. Mostly because it's fun.
>>17026250
50 years ago 60% of brides were virgins, 100 years ago 95% were
>>17026250
No, just that sex should happen only within a meaningful relationship.
That sex has been around forever has nothing to do with anything I said in any case
>>17026256
>That sex has been around forever has nothing to do with anything I said in any case
It has everything to do with it. Sex has been an integral part of human history and social dynamics since the beginning of time. In ancient Rome homosexuality and rampant sexual exploration was a social norm.
In middle eastern and asian countries kings and emperors had sometimes hundreds of wives and concubines. Sex is everything. Sex has always been coveted, so your apparent SHOCK at the fact that sex and lust are still integral parts of the human experience (not to mention our DNA) is fucking mind numbing.
So sex should only happen in a meaningful relationship for you. I hardly see why that has to mean you're better than everyone who has decided to explore their sexuality in a safe, responsible manner.
So you only want to fuck someone you're in love with, great, fuck off and go do it. Is it at all possible for you not to be a sanctimonious bitch while doing so?
>50 years ago 60% of brides were virgins, 100 years ago 95% were
Firstly, I know its convenient to pull statistics out of your ass to prove a point but knowing what the fuck you're talking about also helps in the point proving department.
100 years ago the brides were also like 14, so whats your point here, that we should all live in the 1900s? Because if it is I hope you enjoy living in your one room shack in the dustbowl with your teenage bride and then dying of typhoid.
This "everything was better in le old days" bullshit is getting super old and it doesn't make any sense. Get off your computer and start whittling something, faggot.
>>17026254
Source: your ass.
>>17026267
>everyone does it so it must be right
The fact that in ancient times everyone was sleazy doesn't mean it's a desirable behaviour. In fact people got all sorts of diseases from having sex with promiscuous people.
I haven't been a bitch. You are the one offending you know. People can do whatever the fuck they want. I have only expressed how I feel. I don't go campaigning against casual sex. Sounds like someone who has had tons of casual sex and feels defensive about it. Relax.
>>17026280
At least you're now backing up from the ridiculous claim that it's a modern thing people are having sex. If anything, we are far less degenerate today. Sex education, available contraceptives, etc all have made it far more safe than ever to have sex. In the "good old days" STDs were rampant and accidentally knocking someone up meant immediate forced marriage. So much for the "people waited until marriage" meme.
Why does a girl's past relationships matter to you? Why does having sex degrade a person? Let alone having past sex?
Holy shit OP. You're never going to be happy. Your words are also super offensive to most because you seem to think anyone who doesn't fit your strict and narrow thinking is a "slut".
>>17026287
The only difference is that now sexual experimentation is not kept a secret like in the good old days
>>17026280
>People can do whatever the fuck they want.
>No, just that sex should happen only within a meaningful relationship.
Yeah, because speaking in absolutes when it comes to what context and situation sex should occur in definitely gives you the appearance of an open minded "live and let live" kind of gal.
I'm literally just addressing the words you said yourself, if you don't like maybe you should choose better words. I can only debate as well as you can speak english.
>everyone does it so it must be right
That's not what I said, and again this is where the knowing english thing comes in handy. You may have skipped a couple lessons in basic reading and comprehension in school but I'll give you a little brush up.
I gave examples of these "ancient times" to illustrate the point that at any given period in history sex play an integral role, whether it be freely experienced an performed in public like it was in ancient rome or punishable by death like it was in the medieval days of christian and catholic rule.
Every hundred or so years the dynamic changes and people find themselves in a completely different climate.
If you're really one of these people believes that just because its 2016 we're the smartest and socially aware people there ever was well, you're in the same boat as every other society of human that has existed since the first caveman stood up and stuck his dick in something.
I'm not condoning or condemning anything, just stating that taking making concrete statements about a million year old evolutionary imperative that changes every blink of an eye seems a little... short sighted.
>Sounds like someone who has had tons of casual sex and feels defensive about it. Relax.
Nah, just someone who read a lot of books and doesn't like it when people speak like idiots but don't like being treated like one.
>>17026294
>Why does a girl's past relationships matter to you? Why does having sex degrade a person? Let alone having past sex?
Because it does.
No self control, more likely to cheat, more likely to get divorced. Risk of STDs and kids. 1 in 4 girls has an std http://www.nbcnews.com/id/23574940/ns/health-childrens_health/t/teen-girls-has-sexually-transmitted-disease/#.UPOTfGeLgfx still feel empowered?
Hook ups are all a slut can get, enjoy being single at 35.
>>17026307
I was wondering when someone was going to post that copypasta of "studies" commissioned by anti-sex religious groups again.
>>17026313
>national center for health statistics
>nbc
>anti-sex religious groups
Talking out your ass holmboy
>>17026307
So people who have sex more have more STDs.
Ok. People who base jump die by running into mountains more but they still do because its fun as hell. Step it up, nigger.
>Hook ups are all a slut can get, enjoy being single at 35.
Enjoy being married at 40 to the same vagina you've plowed since you were 22 looking across the table with that shitty, Ward Cleaver look on your face at a fat old woman and children you hate because you lived your life based on a stat chart from 1995.
>>17026319
The raw data is from nhs. The interpretation of it is from the religious group. People like you truly see what you want to see.
I was a virgin before my husband.
However, I read lots of porn for women (yaoi), watched lots of porn for women (yaoi), masturbated a lot and bought myself sex toys to maximize my orgasms.
The only reason I was still a virgin before my husband is because I'm extremely picky and demanding and would not have settled for anything less than perfect for me. Had I not met my husband, I would have been fine staying a virgin all my life masturbating to fictional men than being with someone who didn't satisfy me in all aspects and manners.
>>17026327
>The raw data is from nhs. The interpretation of it is from the religious group
Nigga are you hearing yourself right now?
>>17026330
Wow, anon, thanks, you gave me hope
>>17026307
Your "study" and NBC news source cite HPV. Which guess what? Has a vaccine! Go get one. dumbass. It skews the 1 in 4 because 1 in 3 Americans have HPV. You're either being intentionally disingenuous or you're ignorant of the actual statistics.
>>17026333
That was a fact. Why are you so angry about it? The national center of health statistics does not say "remaining a virgin until marriage means your marriage is stronger and happier". That bullshit claim is by the religious group. Which has twisted and misinterpreted the raw data to suit their conclusions.
>>17026131
There's a lot of wiggle room between being a chaste virgin and the town bike. It would be pretty ludicrous to criticize a woman for having sex in a relationship, but it's pretty reasonable to dislike the idea of one night stands.
People try to make this an all or nothing affair all the time.
>>17026330
But did you wait until marriage to have sex? Or just until you were in a serious relationship?
>>17026330
Everyone is different. Its great that you decided what you wanted and went for it.
Although I'm not saying your story had this intention I'm using it as an example because my only problem is people with these stories using them as cannon fodder to fire it at people who had to have sex a few times before they found someone they had physical chemistry with.
Not everyone is satisfied masturbating their entire lives and then taking a chance on being sexually compatible with the person they marry.
If thats your personal preference, thats really great, just don't think you're better than the women who had to try it out a couple times to find someone they really matched with.
>>17026301
I haven't even used words like slut or whore, right? I think that causal sex is wrong, so what? I am entitled to think what I want so long as I am respectful. Go and attack those in the this thread talking about how women are whores if they have casual sex like men. They are the ones who would gladly fuck "whores" and then whine about how all women are sluts. My opinion applies to both sexes.
>>17026350
>That was a fact
Oh boy, you're a real thick one aren't you. I'm sorry that my posts sound angry because what I'm really trying to convey is actually high levels of amusement.
I don't know what is more retarded: the perma virgins that long for the perfect maidens that do not exist or the hedonistic superficial morona whom think that their view of sex is the only one and anyone whom prefers otherwise has to muh grow up muh ugly man child. What happend to mediation and intimate reservation? You don't have to be a (man)slut nor the virgin Mary herself. Just be respectful of yourself and enjoy with mediation. Or get out of your room and meet those that share your values.
>>17026371
Not every virgin male is a neckbeard. There are occasionally guys with their lives in good order that just want to wait.
>>17026361
>I haven't even used words like slut or whore, right?
Ohhhh my god you really can't read can you. I don't understand what about my post lead you to believe your use of the word "slut" or "whore" had anything to do with what we were discussing. Are you reading the same thread I am? Are you dyslexic?
>I think that causal sex is wrong, so what? I am entitled to think what I want so long as I am respectful
Absolutely, you've been respectful but also pretty stupid. You have been unwilling to address any of the points I brought up (making a general effort to distract from them at all costs) and then on top of that grossly misinterpreted my statements and straw-manned them for your benefit (twice now) so at this point I'm attacking you for your stupidity and lack of reading and comprehension skills rather than a lack of respect.
Being a respectful idiot is not a point of pride, ma'am.
You're definitely entitled to think what you want but when you engage in a debate and I highlight points to debunk the way you think and you respond with "WELL I CAN THINK HOW I WANT" you do see how that makes you sound like a trash-person with garbage for brains right? I mean, I guess you don't, or else you wouldn't have been so damn thick-skulled this entire time.
I feel like an old stump could absorb and process talking points better than you could at this point.
Anyways, I'm off to "attack" other people I guess. Good luck with your learning disability, dumdum.
>>17025919
>I think it's reckless and irresponsible to sleep around when you wouldn't be able to financially support a child (on the off chance that one is conceived).
dur oh god dur im so fucking stupid. probabilities and statistics are being my comprehension. huur how do i even wipe my ass \deuroejp[[
>>17026389
>Anyways, I'm off to "attack" other people I guess. Good luck with your learning disability, dumdum.
lmfao it cracks me up that girls attack other girls when they learn they don't sleep around
>IM ANGRY THAT YOU'RE NOT A SLUT LIKE ME
(because they know the good girls are higher value)
>>17026381
That point was one of the points I was trying to make. Retardation and frustration run high on this thread. On both sides.
>>17026371
I don't think there are any "hedonistic superficial morona" in this thread. It's just what the permavirgins want to paint everyone who doesn't agree with them as.
>>17026397
>lmfao it cracks me up that girls attack other girls when they learn they don't sleep around
Definitely not a girl. If you had a functional frontal lobe and a good pair of reading glasses you could of gathered for yourself that having or not having a vagina had nothing to do with this woman's inability to intelligently address any of the points I raised.
Being the internet equivalent of a bible thumper and straw-manning every argument just so you can knock it over with ease and feeling like a champ is a pretty weak way to conduct yourself. It makes you look like a fool, regardless of how strong a foundation you base your opinions on.
Again, attacking her for her inability to read, not her opinion. I don't mind anyone having an opinion either way about any topic but if they insist upon debating about it not being an idiot comes in handy.
>IM ANGRY THAT YOU'RE NOT A SLUT LIKE ME
I mean, sure, if thats what you gathered from my entire statement your learning disability has just been upgraded to full blown retardation.
If you're having a hard time reading words and then gathering logical conclusions from said words I'd suggest starting with some Dr. Suess and then coming back when you feel like you're good and ready.
>>17026410
So mad lol
>>17026389
Hope you feel better Einstein.
Today there is this general belief that it's good to experiment sexually which I don't agree with. I say today because we should be past acting like animals who follow their instincts blindly.
You called me a sanctimonious bitch. I remarked I haven't called anyone who doesn't share my opinion on sex a whore or other names so you calling me a bitch is just gratuitous offending.
I actually haven't expressed any negative judgement on those who engage in sexual sex, calling them degenerates and so on. Oh and I know lust is part of humans. Since humans are not animals and have a thing called brain that's supposedly superior to that of any other being they should be able to control themselves but they can't and that's too bad.
Hedonistic behavior in the long run leads to nothing but misery. Prove me wrong. Find me someone who is actually happy and fulfilled sleeping around. If they say they are they are lying to themselves. Humans will always look for love because that's how it works.
I don't crucify someone for indulging in hedonistic behavor but it's something that should ideally be avoided.
>>17025908
Jesus Christ OP, I agree with you. I'm a girl and I think it's fucking disgusting how people can just fuck strangers these days. Literally trusting their word of "yah I have no std". And that goes for both men and women. Fucking in a relationship is fine but jumping from dick to dick is disgusting. Those are the ones who think they're landing a 9/10 when in reality they're just being used for their pussy. Then when they're 27-28 they get all prude and notice they actually can't land a 9/10 because please, what decent guy would want a severely used pussy for a wife?. Then in the end they notice they have to settle for a 4/10 and blame men and or society for that fact, lmfao. Please, fuck off with that bullshit.
>>17026410
If you had learned that it is "could have", that would mean reading so many books had taught you something about grammar and spelling in English.
I am not a native speaker and I don't make that mistake lol. At least learn how to spell before making comments about how others who don't think like you have a learning disability. Arrogant know-it-all
>>17026430
I have a hard time believing this is a girl
>>17026435
Sounds like a typical angry /r9k/ neckbeard male virgin.
>>17026435
I'm a girl. The opinion I made is just something I realized long ago.
>>17026430
That's not at all how the world works. It's clear that you are not basing any of this on your life experience but from what other inexperienced teenagers on 4chan claim.
>>17026395
Actually, a keen awareness of the statistical chances of conception are exactly what keep me from having sex.
Are you stupid? Think of how many single mothers and abortions there are. Do you think those women PLANNED on getting pregnant?
>>17026511
Places with more sex education and more liberal attitudes to sex have less unwanted pregnancies than places that preach abstinence.
>>17026353
We had sex before marriage of course, once the relationship moved on from getting to know each other to something more serious. You can tell a guy is serious when he's eager to present you to his friends and family. Which is why you should never date guys without friends or who avoid the topic of presenting you to their family, they're up to no good or are too maladjusted to be decent people. I presented him to my own parents as well and they were happy with my choice.
Of course for all this to happen you need non-dickhead parents so the vast majority of 4chan is automatically excluded.
Why is it any of your business who people sleep with? I want /pol/ to fuck off out of her. You people are the worst.
>>17026232
Word. Underrated post.
>>17026522
Obviously. I'm not arguing for absitnence- I'm arguing for accountability.
I have the level of self control needed to say "no" when boy want to be intimate with me. Not everyone has that level of self control, which is why birth control is the next best thing. But if people were able to have this level of self control, there would be fewer pregnancies.
I think abstinence, or AT LEAST considering before hand that a child might come from sex should be encouraged. We lived in a society that dismisses accountability like it's nothing. We've literally gone so far as to argue that a LIVING HUMAN FETUS is just a "clump of cells" to protect this lack of accountability. When did that even become a question "when does life truely begin"? Obviously it begins the moment the zygote is formed and the cells are rapidly growing and duplicating in to more and more of a recognizable human. The fact that people in this day and age are literally willing to justify murdering their own children in order to avoid the consequences of their actions is terrifying and disgusting.
I abstain because I never want to feel pressured to kill my offspring due to social and economic pressures. I would be disgusted with myself.
>>17026599
>self control
In other words you have a low sex drive or are asexual. Which is fine. "Self control" only applies if it prevents you from doing something clearly bad - sex isn't. Preaching everyone to not have sex is bad for society as a whole, it results in unwanted pregnancies and STDs. "How to have safe sex" is always the better way for a society to stay clean and healthy.
>>17026583
My boyfriend is a handsome man with a very large penis. From what I can tell he got some in school and after but he was more of a guys guy and never really had a girlfriend. He didn't go to college, otherwise I am sure he would have had lots of casual sex but anyway he still had a good amount of super duper casual sex.
Now/ we have been together Almost 6 years and still nearly every day and some days multiple times a day he starts ranting about how all women are whores and cant be trusted and he hopes I'M not like that and gets angry and threatening. Our relationship cannot get intimate with his distrust but why is he acting like this? He is a working class dude who doesnt use the internet but he's heard about snapchat and tinder etc.
>>17026599
except for the fact that this has absolutely fucking nothing to do with being "slutty"
100 sex acts without incident with one partner is no different than 1 act of sex with 100 partners without incident, see the entire fucking porn industy
abstinence isnt the fucking answer, safe sex is. the 'risks' of sex dont magically fucking disappear because jesus loves you cause youre a boring fucking prude.
>>17025919
>I think it's reckless and irresponsible to sleep around when you wouldn't be able to financially support a child
yeah, youre right. 100% the 99% of normal couples that fuck like rabbits in the early stages of the relationship are making monthly visits to wire coat hanger shop to skew out their unwanted little fuckling.
>>17026628
Your bf is a hypocrite
>>17026628
For someone who doesn't use the internet, he sure sounds indoctrinated by /r9k/.
>>17026635
>boring prude
Not having sex doesn't make someone boring
>>17026688
It's all a cringey whining about how women are all whores and usually it's insecure men who in most cases heavily use porn
>>17026614
I don't have low sex drive. The whole point of "control" is that although I may naturally want to behave one way, i force myself not to.
>>17026635
Couples who are in a sexual relationship are just as likely if not more likely to conceive a child than those who sleep around- the difference is that should a child be conceived, the couple is a lot more likely to keep it.
Millions of fetuses are aborted every year. I heard a statistic once from someone who was pro-abortion that "one in three women will have an abortion". I doubt the legitimacy of this claim since it doesn't add up with the numbers, but even so, the number of abortions that take place is far too much.
I'd much rather be a boring prude than someone who's willing to risk murdering a child for my own lust
>>17026697
>not having sex
>stocking up on those yummy hormones
>get all moody and ill tempered
Yes, you people ARE boring, because its always the same with you. Stuck up and always in a bad mood, sorry bra. Even crack whores are in a better mood when you pay them.
>>17026712
Pretty fine actually. By then I had my share, gathered my experiences and have a good wife. All the while youre gonna be a bitter faggot ranting on 4chan about how all people having sex are sluts and cunts.
>>17026714
???
You sound so stupid dude. Controlling your actions isn't the same as repressing your feelings.
If I'm angry, I can punch shit and scream to "express it", or I can count backwards from ten and calm the fuck down, thereby "controlling" it.
The same goes for lust. You can control it without expressing it or repressing it.
>>17026718
why would you tho?
>>17026718
>controlling your actions
Maybe I did exactly that by fucking a girl I didnt plan on marrying on the step you stupid piece of shit? You faggots just forget that theres people who actually ENJOY having sex.
>dumb niggers
>>17026731
Addendum: Oh wait, to ENJOY sex you actually NEED to have sex first. In other terms, if youre a /r9k/ virgin, stop shitposting about things you do not and literally can not understand.
>i hate broccholi even doe i never ate it
>>17026731
Apart from the passing enjoyment you got from releasing your semen, what else has the experience left you?
>>17026738
It created good memories and balanced my hormones. Should try it, son.
>>17026731
What's the difference between masturbating and fucking a girl you just see as a means of relieving yourself? Tell me, because I am actually curious
>>17026740
No one said you have to marry every girl you fuck you idiot. You can have fun sex with a girl you actually give a fuck about without marrying her dumbass
>>17026741
Combination of a physical act, the feeling and all the roundabout. You clearly are clueless mate.
>>17026743
Well mate, but I DO have a good wife. So whatever you think, my life went exactly as I wanted it to. Having casual sex doesnt mean you gotta be a dick.
>you will lose yadayada general ignorant shit
You cant tell.
>>17026745
But I dont have to mate. I can fuck whomever I want to, and unless I hurt her feelings by using her literally noone but you fag give a fuck. Have fun, gotta go to my lectures
>>17026743
Whilst I agree pretty much with the whole casual sex is bad, people who marry as virgins can and will cheat as well because once they try sex, they will start feeling they missed out all that time they didn't have any and will want to experiment. Not saying it happens in all cases, but it does happen
>>17026750
Dude, you do know that you can get STDs even just with oral sex? You do know that HPV is widespread and you don't even need to stick your penis inside a vagina to get it?
Enjoy your HPV-ridden body dude, because you most certainly have it seeing as an enormous percentage of women who have had more than one partner have it and you seem to enjoy fucking random sluts
>>17026697
thats what you chose to respond to? and how? jesus re read what you wrote
>>17026709
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States
the number of abortions performed is going down and its well below million(S lol?). and while its not really practical to measure exactly how many people are having sex during a certain time period, its safe to say MOST people who have sex DONT have unwanted pregnancies. i mean do some fucking math here. lets try to extrapolate some numbers from the abortion figure. theres 700k abortions. now lets taken a VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY FUCKING bullshit figure to plug in here. lets just say 1/50 acts of sexual intercourse result in unwanted pregnancy that leads to abortion.
700k x 50 = 35,000,000 sex acts TOTAL EVER. in a country of 300 MILLION people. even if you cut the number of sexually active people in half to 150,000,000 that leaves us with some absolute bullshit number of less than 1 act of sex per year. are you starting to see how most sex isn't really much of a problem?
jesus fucking christ do you even pay attention to reality? that sweet old couple next door? theyre about a one or two missed calcium pills away from full on broken hips they next time they smash. that douchy guy that lives by himself a few doors down but drives a really nice luxury car? he's out gaming sluts while your drilling bible verses on a saturday night? that sorta cool youngerish couple that takes turns walking dogs everyday and both have respectable jobs? probably have each brought someone of the opposite sex into the bedroom each. twice. that teenage kid home alone on the weekend while his parents are on a short getaway (probably for the specific reason of uninhibited rough dirty banging)? hes probably got some girl (of a questionable age in relation to himself) coming over for a bit of experimenting.
its a biological urge for a fucking reason. get over your cult delusions
why does the (casual) sex others have, have any influence on the sex you (dont) have?
like it somehow lowers the value. guys this is not a global sex economy where every transaction has an influence on the price or value...
>>17026232
harsh as fuck but 10/10 best post in thread
>>17025996
>not that valuable
And I bet you're worth a million dollars even though you're a little faggot just because ur a special virgin who saved his hole to get pegged by the right lady
>>17026750
>fag
Just so you know a real man doesn't need to prove he is a real man by fucking the first fuckable woman he sees at a club
Real men are not insecure like that
>>17026784
>a real man
wut
>>17026784
>real men
>*tips fedora*
not that guy, but what is it precisely about that guy's post that suggests he's fucking the first girl he sees, or that he's doing it to prove something about himself?
Because this sounds like some massive projection on your part of your (perceived) failure to prove yourself as a man and your own low standards.
>>17026787
Learn to read
>>17026793
what is this real man you speak of and where did you get the definition?
i'm curious
>>17026790
Dude called me a fag because I don't have casual sex like him
Dude thinks that if you don't do one night stands you are a faggot. Showed him that, on the contrary, I don't need to prove my masculinity by having casual sex
>>17026804
because fucking and killing people is the same thing amirite?
I was gonna make a thread but this seems like a good place to ask. How do I reject the advances of a slutty girl at uni without the PC police crashing down my door and crucifying me as the evil sexist white male?
>>17026801
looked more like you called him names for liking casual sex and general anger at other people having casual sex.
Do what you like, but your shitty attitudes towards others makes you a faggot in my book
>>17026806
In most primate sexual systems rape is a perfectly viable option for males on the lower end of the ladder. Rape is essentially the stripping of female sexual security. Likewise, cuckoldry is the stripping of male sexual security, and promiscuity nearly guarantees that cuckoldry will occur. How can you promote a natural sexual system while hypocritically condemning rape?
>>17026743
>lose your ability to have intimate sex
That is the most idiotic thing I have read all day. Marrying as virgins means more intimate sex? More fantasy.
>>17026820
>ugh no thanks I did that with my 15 exes I didn't like it
>but anon that's in the past I've changed
>what're you so worked up about it's just sex!
>you're so boring in bed ex #14 was better
(You)
>>17026818
dont come to me with that primate and nature shit.
we're humans, we have evolved a society. we know rape is wrong, killing is wrong, what two consenting adults do not so much.
>>17026819
I have zero problem with people who don't like casual sex.
I have a problem with you specifically as an individual because you are a judgmental faggot who hates people who do like casual sex and then pretends to be a victim. But it's no wonder you don't like casual sex, since you're an asshole and other people probably dislike you as a result, making sex unpleasant.
>>17026359
Actually I posted my story to discourage the angry virgin nerds from r9k from thinking that they will ever get a girl like me. My husband is nothing like them, he's Chad basically, and someone like me who has the strength to do well alone and satisfy herself... herself, will not settle for a lowly pathetic r9k poster who hates women. I am better than such crap. It was pride and self-esteem that kept me a virgin, not whatever idiotic bullshit ideas they shit out on their board. A man who bitches about women as if they were all out to get him deserves to die alone and unloved. No self-respecting woman should stoop herself to their level. You my sister can do as you prefer, I understand your life isn't mine.
>>17026832
>this is OK because it's a biological urge!
>but this biological urge isn't ok because I said so!
Pick one, and whether you like it or not many societies consider casual sex wrong, or consider rape fine. We're not all one society.
>>17026832
It's wrong because you're spreading diseases around
>inb4 use condoms
They don't protect against everything, they can break and shit like that
>>17026628
>My boyfriend is a handsome man with a very large penis. From what I can tell he got some in school and after but he was more of a guys guy and never really had a girlfriend. He didn't go to college, otherwise I am sure he would have had lots of casual sex but anyway he still had a good amount of super duper casual sex.
gj /r9k/ falseflagging & praising themselves :))
>>17026838
i never made the its an urge argument bruh.
>>17026840
>It's wrong because you're spreading diseases around
i don't tho
>>17026837
Agreed. Most guys like that think they are in a position to pick and choose when they are complete assholes with nothing to offer to a woman of any age, race and appearance
>>17026846
Look up HPV. 80% and more of sexual active people have it. Probability says you are likely to fall into that 80+% so yes, you are spreading it around
>>17026823
And that has nothing to do with your stupid idea that you lose the ability to have intimate sex. No such thing.
>>17026826
Another anon who has never been in a relationship thinking that he is an expert on relationships.
Why is it that some people get so defensive, holier than thou when someone says he doesn't like casual sex?
So many attacks here
>>17026709
I'm the chick who married the guy who took her virginity and I still support abortion, fuck you. I don't want my fellow women to suffer because of unlovable dickheads like you. Do you know how many fucking MARRIED couples still get abortions for a shitton of reasons? Fetuses can get fucking thrown on the street.
>>17026853
u wot m8?
The estimated global HPV prevalence was 11.7% (95% confidence interval, 11.6%–11.7%). Sub-Saharan Africa (24.0%), Eastern Europe (21.4%), and Latin America (16.1%) showed the highest prevalences. Age-specific HPV distribution presented with a first peak at younger ages (<25 years) and, in the Americas and Africa, a rebound at older ages (⩾45 years). Among the women with type-specific HPV data (n = 215,568), the 5 most common types worldwide were HPV-16 (3.2%), HPV-18 (1.4%), HPV-52 (0.9%), HPV-31 (0.8%), and HPV-58 (0.7%).
>>17026856
>murdering people is OK if they get in my way
>>17026855
Sluts don't like being called sluts, I guess.
>>17026859
Not a virgin so there you go. Can't stand assholes who do whatever they want in bed and whine about women being whores, expecting to have a super hot chick who is a virgin but a porn star in bed
>>17026853
>80%
>source: your ass
>>17026870
>Can't stand assholes who do whatever they want in bed and whine about women being whores, expecting to have a super hot chick who is a virgin but a porn star in bed
That's a lot of projection there my friend
>>17026852
>I don't have people who have casual sex. In fact, I am friends with some. I just don't wanna have sex with them.
Why are you so angry about the concept, then? What does other people having sex as they wish have to do with you?
I don't get it, dude.
>>17026301
I like you.
ah yes THIS is why I am a beta faggot masturbating all the time.
fucking sluts.
>>17026863
To YOUR table I won't bring anything. You deserve to starve you misogynist piece of shit. :^)
>>17026874
Source Wikipedia. Go and have a look disease spreader
>>17026877
>What does other people having sex as they wish have to do with you?
It creates emotionally strained single mothers who raise screw-up kids. Being a bastard myself I wouldn't wish it upon anyone.
>>17026883
Talking about virgin neckbeards
geez, why do people even care
use a condom or get tested, end of story
for me it just reeks of insecurity when people are obsessed with their so's sexual life
get it trough your thick skulls, sex is not degrading
>>17026855
OP offensive --> people being defensive
I'm not a fan of casual sex either, but I'm not going to start insulting people who do and then not expect a backlash. That's not how things work.
>>17026871
>Don't you ever have thoughts that #28 had better boobs and #42 had better ass than your current GF/wife?
What a sickeningly objectifying attitude you have towards women. See, to normies this question looks something like this:
>How is being friends with your BFF any different that any of your other acquaintances? Don't you ever have thoughts that friend #28 had awesome beach house parties and #42 was funny as fuck and made you laugh more than your BFF?
i.e. people aren't just a collection of attributes that you can use and abuse, they're whole people, varied, wonderful and unique and you can be friends with (and fuck) all of them without demeaning the rest.
I think we're finally getting to the root of the problem here, everyone.
>>17026887
wikipedia vs The Journal of Infectious Diseases The [meta-] analysis included 194 studies comprising 1,016,719 women with normal cytological findings.
gee if its on wiki it must be right then.
>>17026889
I'm not mad. I don't deal with them so problem solved. I can't stand idiots like that though
>>17026888
If only your mother had aborted you.
>>17026888
>birth control doesn't exist
oh, I see - you live in a parallel dimension. That explains the problem. (plus mommy issues, obviously)
>>17026891
>sex is not degrading
Unless it's the best kind of sex, amirite?
>tfw boyfriend is too sweet to pull my hair and call me a bitch
>>17026898
It says 80% and more will get HPV at some point which is a different kind of stat. Not sure this can be processed by your brain and understood
I'm a man and I have HPV, I know it doesn't really affect me but I still feel shitty about it, I don't wanna give future sex partners/serious gfs cervical cancer, I went to an STD clinic once to get my dick checked out and they recommended I do the 3 part HPV vaccination but I only did ONE and that scares the dick outta me too, I literally forgot to go in to take the other ones til it was too late and I woke up in the middle of the night several months later and was like "Holy shit I fucked up"; what do /adv/?
I don't wanna give women cancer and i don't want dick cancer either but I don't want to live the life of a celibate monk, all 3 sound just as bad.
>>17026898
you should probably go correct the info on wikipedia and then link it back to him, kek
>>17026871
>How is fucking your "loving wife" different than 50 other women you fucked in the club? Don't you ever have thoughts that #28 had better boobs and #42 had better ass than your current GF/wife?
No. Never. What a ridiculously stupid thing to say. You obviously have never been in a relationship. I love my gf, she is on a whole different level than anyone I have been with. I don't think about past girls, even if, say, some had bigger boobs.
>>17026658
Neither is whining about "b-b-BUT NOT ME! NOT ALL MEN!" Do you abstain from porn? Do you call out your male friends when they're being assholes? No, of course you don't. You pretend hate raunch culture when a woman vents about it but the second you benefit from it, you're silent. Just like every other "male feminist" ally.
>>17026910
The chances are really low. There are a lot of strains of HPV, and if I recall correctly, most of them do not cause cancer.
Talk to your doctor and see about getting the vaccine series again. You might be able to just restart and get the first one again.
>>17026915
Your own misogyny makes your dating pool non-existent don't worry. You're the disgusting, self-centered kind of man I've always rejected. You deserve to die alone.
>>17026904
>>17026905
Yes, because if you are on the wrong side of the argument you deserve murder and mockery. You'd better, ever, not ever, disagree with a practice that has caused you personal turmoil. You'd never question any liberty that leads to widespread recklessness.
I know you're baiting but god damn I'm mad. And if birth control worked we wouldn't have legions of fatherless kids, or millions more kids killed before they were born.
>>17026908
>implying i even bothered to check the wiki page :^)
>>17026922
Birth control works. Unfortunately pieces of shit like you who should have been aborted think birth control is for sluts, so women who are dumb or desperate enough to listen to your kind do not use it, only to end up needing an abortion because you pumped and dumped her because to you she was nothing but a whore. Kill yourself you are the reason why the world is shit.
>>17026928
Gimme all your money m8, it's for your own good the less you have it the more you will value it so give it all to me. :^)
>>17026628
>why is he acting like this?
probably because he got to sleep with many women who had boyfriends. Women are ruled by emotions and that makes them untrust worthy. also they are always looking to trade for a better guy even if they are in a relationship.
>>17026915
>it's immoral
that would be by your own personal moral designation, which is fine - but this is a non-answer. Why, exactly is it immoral?
>displays associative traits
Casual sex doesn't imply a lack of self-control because that would imply there is a good reason not to have it. Since technology has advanced to the point where it is easy to eliminate the risks of sexual intercourse (i.e. birth control, disease protection) there is no rational reason to withhold from a highly beneficial activity like casual sex.
>muh dating pool
you may as well hate the previous generations for not having more kids, that cuts your dating pool as well. Regardless, this is an entirely self-serving reason and therefore safely disregarded. The rest of the world has no duty to conform to your archaic dating standards.
>>17026928
So you therefore are also against casual friendship? Can someone have "too many friends"? Do you call people friend-sluts for having too many friends and being too social as well? That's the logical conclusion from your post, after all.
>Isn't that what happens?
In fact, no. Not for normal people.
>>17026930
>Unfortunately pieces of shit like you who should have been aborted think birth control is for sluts, so women who are dumb or desperate enough to listen to your kind do not use it, only to end up needing an abortion because you pumped and dumped her because to you she was nothing but a whore
>projecting
>>17026951
Truth hurts doesn't it.
>>17026957
>implying condom + plan b + abortion doesnt have 100% success rate
>dis baby dead
>:^)
>>17025908
What she did before you were in her life is inmaterial. Do not fall into the trap of a woman blithely going through life thinking sex is an awful terrible thing only whores did until she met you and your clearly magical penis. All that matters is what you do together. That's literally all that matters. Because it's okay if you got your dick sucked 24/7 before you met her, right?
>>17026957
> implying any birth control is 100% effective
I bet your mom regrets that fact, huh
>>17026965
Unwanted babies deserve to be dead. Your parents should have killed you.
>>17026784
Top kek
why do I have a feeling that every person attacking op looks like this?
>>17026856
That's great, I don't want those women to suffer either. No one should suffer.
However, having to make sacrifices and raise a child due to CHOICES MADE MY THE WOMAN is hardly "suffering" in comparison to LITERALLY ENDING THE LIFE OF THE CHILD INSIDE IF HER.
Also- don't make assumptions. Just because I'm anti abortion doesn't mean that I think it should be illegal. There are certain situations like where the mother's life is in danger where abortion may be necessary.
In order to decrease the amount of abortions, I believe that we need to invest more resources into pre and post parental programs that help destroy the social and economic influences that pressure women to get abortions.
I'd even understand an abortion if the woman says "hey, I never ever want to have kids, but I got pregnant so I will get an abortion". But way too many women get abortions just because of the inhospitable social environment that being a single mother brings along with it.
Before you stick up for the rights of the mother, consider that there is another life involved too- the life of the child. I don't want people to suffer, but the mothers made a CHOICE, knowing that there was potential to conceive a baby. I'd much rather advocate women and men having to live with the consequences of their action than the killing of innocent babies
>>17026968
I'm a virgin, retard. I'd rather masturbate to Edward Cullen than date you.
>>17026979
probably because you're a projecting cuck
go play basketball with your wife's son
>>17026963
I've only had sex in my two long term relationships. I've had opportunities for casual relationships but after learning the girl was only interested in a casual relationship I passed.
Just because someone hurt you doesn't mean you can strawman an entire group. That's /r9k/s main problem
>liberals have successfully convinced people that fetuses are not human/alive
This country is doomed.
How can otherwise intellegent people be this stupid?
>>17027007
>It's the same with casual sex, you are only for your personal benefit and satisfaction.
if you're a shit lay/person maybe.
>>17026254
this is why i don't plan to marry because why you i keep my traditional role of marrying them when they don't keep their traditional role of remaining a virgin before marriage? that just tells me that they want their cake and eat it too by riding the cock carousel and marring a pointdexter chump after she had her fun.
I agree with you, OP.
I would never associate myself romantically with a woman who actively engages in casual sex, nor would I myself engage in casual sex. A way in which we perhaps differ is that I may not necessarily discount somebody who is genuinely making an effort to reform themselves from a mindset supporting casual sex, but the key for both of us, regardless of possible differences between us, is to only discount such individuals as partners, not as people.
There's nothing wrong with having a standard quantification of value you place in a potential partners. For some people, value comes from looks; for others, value comes from the size of a bank account. For me, what I find most attractive about a woman is the strength of her moral compass, as well as how much that moral compass aligns with what I (in my lifetime) have come to know as wholesome and good. Engaging in casual sex shows a blatant disregard of one of my most prized scruples, which is a capacity to show complete and exclusive devotion to something. If you have many partners and justify doing so casually, you clearly don't have the natural desire to devote yourself physically to just one person, and you clearly wouldn't be able to truly appreciate my own complete and exclusive devotion to you in the way that I would hope.
Likewise, it's completely fine if somebody sees less value in me as a partner for my own beliefs and intentions surrounding relationships. While it's important to me to live up to certain moral, physical, intellectual, and civic standards, those standards may simultaneously make me appear less desirable to someone else. Neither one of us is better than the other; we're simply incompatible in the way that someone like me is incompatible with casual sex.
Don't judge, OP, but don't be afraid to embrace what you want. Pursue your goals.
>>17027013
ayy, name one case where the fetus survived all 3 steps then
>b-b-but its only 99.99999% not 100%
>damn you non-STEM scum!!1
>>17026981
>no one should suffer
>thinks raising a child you don't want isn't suffering
I use birth control with my husband, but in the unfortunate event that I got pregnant still when I don't want to and couldn't abort, I would beat the shit out of the child and abuse him to death because his existence makes me suffer. He demands time and attention and resources I am not willing to give and would much rather spend on something tgat maked me happy. An unwanted that child causes nothing but discomfort and trouble and conflict and I am not going to pretend it's not like that. I will beat neglect and abuse the piece of shit to death.
>>17026808
So fucking what? That's YOUR problem. It's not anyone else's problem.
I will never understand why retards from /pol/ think everything about the world and everyone else's lives should revolve around what they want. It doesn't fucking work that way.
Grow up.
>>17025908
While I dislike hookup culture, I presume you place the same standards on yourself?
>>17026995
Oh so now if a girl is in long term relationships she's a whore too even though you enjoyed such relationships yourself? Hypocrite.
>>17027026
Was your point in making this post to make sure that we all understand that you're selfish? Otherwise, I'm not picking up what you're trying to put down.
On another note, how is it that actions like this aren't universally considered evil?
Your heart is as dark as the night, anon.
>>17027048
if the other options fail it is.
>>17027029
>Women who have sex with other men are sluts!!
>Also a woman who doesn't want to have sex with me is entitled!!
And there the true, selfish, disgusting face of r9k is revealed. Kill yourself, you deserve to die unloved.
>>17027026
Would it make you happier to go to prison? That's generally what you get for beating and killing children.
>>17027026
>I would beat the shit out of the child and abuse him to death because his existence makes me suffer.
>I will beat neglect and abuse the piece of shit to death.
Is your husband aware that he married Satan?
Look- you are entitled to your opinion and that's fine, but I hope you realize that your opinion is extremely cruel and selfish. It's ok- but don't pretend like you're a saint.
You literally just said that, rather than simply controlling something that you WANT, you would murder, neglect, and or abuse your own offspring.
Like I get that sex is fun but it's not a need. It's a WANT. It's not crucial. The fact that you're literally willing to destroy a child to pursue that want makes you selfish.
>>17027007
I haven't seen any rational argument for the immorality of casual sex in this thread yet.
>>17027007
>Too many friends means having friends just for your personal benefit.
that doesn't make any sense, since friendship is a relationship based on mutual benefit. Likewise, casual sex benefits both parties. You might be confusing "casual" with "shitty".
>benefits
Sex is a tool for social bonding, it's a shared activity which strengthens the bonds between two individuals. Most casual sex is not blind one-night stands, but in the guise of non-committed long or medium term friends with benefits or continued hookups. The social grouping of people who are against casual sex are going to inevitably become non-competitive as they fall further and further behind on the social ladder, reducing their opportunity, stability and social well-being. The mechanics of sex being what they are in the modern world, it's a cultural dead-end to be against casual sex and you're seeing this played out in the evolution of cultural attitudes on promiscuity.
(In addition, of course, there are all the health benefits of regular sexual activity which should be easy to google)
anyways, you're a low-value person and you would benefit from reducing the availability of sex to other people, so all of this is irrational, myopic, post-hoc justification bullshit to further your own self-interest and almost everyone can see right through you. I got shit to do, I'm out.
>>17026957
>all this projecting
Sex with my gf is great because it's far more than just sex. It's intimate. You know, the thing that you're not supposed to be able to do if you're not a virgin? Again, you try pretend you're mightly knowledgeable about this when you have never been in a relationship or had sex.
>>17026232
well said
>>17027057
>insecure
Are you fucking retarded? You're the one in this thread whining and moaning that the world isn't the way you want it to. You're the one here acting as if YOUR preferences should somehow impact OTHERS' decisions in life. Get the fuck out of here, you're too stupid to live.
>>17027045
>wants to impose suffering on others for no reason other than bullshit whining
>thinks he's not the evil and selfish one
Unwanted children are nothing but pain and discomfort and as such they need to be treated. You likely have been no good to your mother yourself, and deserve to pay for making her suffer.
it's ok guys.
People who have casual sex are way more likely to catch STDs and have unplanned pregnancies.
They're digging their own grave.
Unfortunately if you live in America you have to pay taxes that support their disease ridden asses.
>>17027059
I think
>>17027018
sums it up. Outside of the obvious issues if you prescribe to an Abrahamic belief set, the immorality comes relative to who you involve in your choice to have casual sex. If you're, for example, having casual sex while leading somebody who personally objects to it to believe you're interested in a long-term relationship, you directly violate that person's conscience, regardless of whether or not he or she knows it.
>>17025991
>Why are you so turned off by women (or, seemingly, men) who have casual sex? What are you so uptight about?
In the OP
>Honestly I dont see how anyone who engages or has engaged in casual sex can make any substantial argument for monogamy and there is no value to entering in a monogamous relationship with them.
The fact that so many people are butt hurt about this shit is funny to me.
I'm personally with op, however op is still a fag for being a bitch about this, good things are hard to find. Work for it faggot.
Meet girls with your same values, get on a relationship with her and marry her, then fuck her gently, then let your sexuality evolve naturally. You probably want a virgin who will just meet and fuck you and stay with you regardless of what you do or can't do.
The only thing that hurts me is when people stay in relationships despite it being a bad one or when they do other stuff they directly regret.
I don't mind casual hookups except that I feel sorry for them that they're getting judged by others.
>>17027076
>People who have casual sex live on government welfare
wow this whole thread is just full of brainless lowlives, isn't it?
>>17027074
Their existence is completely related to your own selfish actions.
How can you not see this lack of accountability?? YOU made a choice and he is the consequence of that choice.
If you make your bed, you have to lay in it. Making someone innocent suffer because of your own decisions makes you CRUEL.
Jesus- it's not even the cruelty that pisses me off, it's that you pro-choices hide between "oh but the woman's rights!!! You're trying to take away her RIGHTS!!"
No, we just don't advocate MURDER.
How can you take yourself seriously accusing US of being the heartless ones when you're literally advocating murder and abuse??
>>17026932
Still with my first so shut the fuck up
>>17027037
What? No. I've never said I'd have a problem with dating people who'd been in relationships before. My last girlfriend had a relationship before mine. I just find casual sex a questionable practice. With long-term relationships it's easy to communicate what kind of birth control is being used and what part of the menstrual cycle one is at to maximize the effectiveness of said birth control, and, even if that birth control does fail, you shouldn't be dating a guy who'd abandon you if you got pregnant in the first place.
While casual sex can be safe there's far more potential for recklessness.
>>17027090
>Making someone innocent suffer
which is why you zap that shit before it can objectively suffer in the first place.
>>17027056
Sex is a need for a couple or the couple will break apart. Enjoy your divorces if you start demanding loving couples not yo have sex because of your retarded ideas that sex for a couple is merely a want. My good relationship with my husband is more important than an unfortunate accident that shouldn't exist.
>>17027085
Statistically, people who have casual sex are more likely to have unwanted pregnancies. The majority of these single mothers recieve financial assistance from the government.
A large portion of government resources and tax payer money that go into safe sex, birth control, STD treatment and pregnancy care.
So yes. I'm literally paying for your irresponsible behavior.
>>17027055
Happier than living with a child I don't want? Definitely.
>>17027101
It's not a need.
It's only a need if you're an emotionless, cruel, and substance less person.
So yeah, I guess for you maybe it is a need. But if you hadn't been raised in a world where people were willing to be around you just for your body, maybe you would have developed a personality.
The fact that couples rely SO MUCH on sex that they literally can't stand eachother' personalities to the point where they have to get divorced is just a testament to how a reliance on sex can be detrimental in a relationship.
Enjoy your divorce when your husband wakes up and realizes that he literally married she-hitler.
>>17027018
I have absolutely no clue how you came up with the idea that having casual sex means you aren't capable of or interested in being committed to a relationship.
Casual sex is literally just masturbation, nothing more. I bet my full set of dick and balls you jack off every day, are you telling me you are not capable of forming a lasting relationship now? No, you're upset that your partner had an active sex life that didn't involve you.
Oh and fuck right off the tip of my dick about a woman's "moral compass" being the most attractive part to you. That's the most pathetic lie I've ever heard in my life.
>>17027101
>unfortunate accident that shouldn't exist
You see, there's a leap between using this term to define a child that comes out of sex in marriage and then saying that you would "abuse and neglect" said child to death.
The first is liberal logic, but the second is psychotic. Your first thought, upon considering a scenario in which you have this child that you weren't able to abort, is to murder and kill it, rather than put it up for adoption. This shows that you don't even have the empathetic capacity to view your child as being human enough to deserve a chance at a normal life with an adoptive family, opting to instead consider murder as your go-to. Get help.
>>17027120
Yikes.
You've literally become so unemotionally attached to sex that you see it as equivalent to masturbation?
I don't abstain, but I don't have casual sex in the way you describe because that emotional component is like 80% of the experience for me. It's cool if you have a different opinion on that, but like have you ever had sex with someone who you are truely in love with?
>>17027120
>casual sex is masturbation
Then why not just fucking masturbate and avoid possible pregnancies, diseases and nutjobs?
Is it really worth it when your hand gets the same job done?
>>17027090
What choice you retard? The choice to marry and have officially publicly sanctioned sex with a man? Duh that's also one of the reasons for marriage. People in a marriage are expected to have sex. It is not however an agreement to bear children every time the couple makes love. If the birth control unfortunately fails, it wasn't any CHOICE to have a disgusting ACCIDENT. And oops accidents need to get beaten to death.
>>17027118
The only times in history when sex wasn't a tremendous component to marriage success where when people were literally not legally allowed to divorce in the first place. Want to know what one common ground for divorce was in those times? Sexual impotency.
>>17027120
Justifying casual sex is the same as justifying having not devoted yourself physically to just one person. This contradicts my standards in a relationship.
Sorry, but I think you'd lose your dick and balls. I don't masturbate. I have masturbated, yes, but I've found that, while giving a temporary release, it's relatively pointless and detracts from time that could be better spent. I view all sex as having an emotional component, and so a view in which sex can be moved to the point of being nothing more than a physical release would simply just be another point of incompatibility.
As for the moral compass, it is. I'd tell you that the most beautiful thing I've ever seen about my girlfriend is her ability to empathize with homeless people, despite coming from a privileged background. I'm not sure how much of the world you've seen that you believe that seeing a strong sense of morality as being a most important trait as a lie, but I promise you that there are people out there who see more than the physical.
>>17027133
Birth control openly states that it does not eliminate the risk of pregnancy, it only reduces it.
That's like if you have a 100-sided die and on 99 sides there's a cake icon and you get a slice of cake, but on one side there's a punch icon and you get punched in the stomach.
Do you roll the die?
A lot of people would because they want the cake enough to risk it. But that's the whole point- YOU NEED TO BE WILLING TO RISK IT AND ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES IF YOU LAND ON THE PUNCH ICON.
It IS a choice. If you seriously believe that you can have sex on birth control without ANY risk of getting pregnant, then you are the idiot.
DONT HAVE VAGINAL SEX IF YOU DONT WANT TO RISK HAVING A CHILD. There are plenty of other ways for couples to get eachother off and have fun.
But people SERIOUSLY need to start holding themselves accountable for their actions. If you get pregnant; it's because of a choice YOU made to take a risk. You can't just "catch" pregnancy like the flu. YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE.
>>17027125
Adoption causes far more mental problems than you believe and if the child does not get adopted he becomes nothing but a burden and a strain on society, as well as a danger since he becomes prone to criminality. See Decree 770 in Communist Romania that abolished abortions and created a generation of orphans and abandoned criminal children. No thank you.
>>17027140
Ah yes, let's look at history which was full of murder, rape, oppression, and pillaging to descern our moral standards for the 21st century.
you can't ever expect the public to adhere to abstinence. There are too many selfish creatons such as yourself.
That's why birth control was invented.
That doesn't mean you're not an absolute monster for prioritizing a few minutes of pleasure over a child's life.
>>17027150
That's horse shit. In the US, there are more families unable but willing to adopt than there are children to adopt. I've seen first-hand how beneficial adoption is to both the adopted family and the adopted child. The one thing that liberals believe that I can agree with is supporting government welfare programs for children in unfortunate situations. But, then again, you're not liberal for the sake of liberal, you subscribe to the set of beliefs that allows you to indulge in your selfish lifestyle as seamlessly as possible.
>quoting laws in Romania
You're literally grasping at straws to justify your desire to torture and kill children. There are multiple confounding variables in that part of the world, and even if Romania is the worst place on earth to live as an adopted child, I'm sure most children would appreciate the chance to live life in relative peace compared to being tortured and murdered by a psychotic mother. To reiterate, get help.
>criminality
That's rich coming from the person who would commit first-degree murder.
>>17027149
You're suggesting women either ruin their marriages by not having sex or ruin their anuses by getting a prolapsed anus from anal? That shit is dangerous as fuck. You are demanding innocent women suffer horrible pain and risk for your bullshit when a fetus doesn't even have a brain and can be disposed of painlessly. You are disgusting and you are making me hate children more and more. I will make sure to beat my children and make sure they know they're hated, that they cause nothing but suffering and should have never been born so they don't turn out like you.
>>17027150
Marilyn Monroe, Bill Clinton, John Lennon, Nelson Mandela, Babe Ruth, Steve Jobs, and Edgar Allen Poe.
^ you know what these people have in common? They were ADOPTED!!!!
Are you really so arrogant as to think that you have the right to determine whether or not someone's life will be worth living simply because they have an untraditional upbringing?
Taking away the opportunity of a child to live their life based on statistics has got to be about the dumbest argument in favor of abortion that I have ever heard.
Guess what? Black peoples, statistically, are more likely to grow up to be criminals. Does that mean that we should just kill all the black people??? NO. That wouldn't even begin to solve the crime issue- there are TONS of institutional influences. Same goes for kids who are adopted. If kids who are adopted are more likely to develop problems, that means that we need to invest more resources into HELPING THEM, not that we should just kill them all off while they're vulnerable
>>17027170
Oh go fuck yourself you psycho bitch. You need to go to a psychiatrist and do it urgently
>>17027170
You hate children more and more because somebody (who is not one of these children) is defending them? You're the one talking about causing suffering; you're seriously sick.
Also
>prolapsed anus
you homophobe!111!1!
>>17027170
>You are disgusting and you are making me hate children more and more. I will make sure to beat my children and make sure they know they're hated, that they cause nothing but suffering and should have never been born so they don't turn out like you.
Pro-choices, everyone.
Enjoy your delusion. Try convincing yourself all you want that I'm the bad guy in this situation. You're a monster and I hope that your husband divorces you the second he looks past your tits and realizes that he married a selfish murdeous cunt.
>>17027170
You seriously need help.
Like, you have actual issues.
Please get help before you end up in prison
Also
>ANAL SEX IS THE ONLY OTHER WAY TO PLEASE A MAN.
You're just about as dumb as you are evil, huh?
>>17027170
PSYCHO BITCH ALERT DING DING DING DING DING
>>17027190
>How is torturing and killing a child bad?
>Who are you to set what's good and what's bad?
Itt: Pro-lifers vs literal demons
Come on
Usually I can atleast respectfully disagree with pro-choicers, but this is too much.
Also, the LAW sets the moral standard. I hope the police find all the cp on your computer and throw you in prison you sick fuck
>>17027175
>Marilyn Monroe, Bill Clinton, John Lennon, Nelson Mandela, Babe Ruth, Steve Jobs, and Edgar Allen Poe.
Monroe was a whore
Clinton is a serial cheater
Lennon abused his wife and was gay
Jobs was literally too stupid to get legit treatment for his cancer
Poe was a pedophile drug abuser.
I don't think those were the very best examples.
Especially Poe not
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>>17027170
If you want people to see adoption as preferable to abortion, you need to guarantee that the adoptive parents and the adoptee won't come bother the birth family, even when the adoptee is adult, and won't be a cost nor a burden in any way whatsoever to the birth parent/s. Also any financial loss because of the pregnancy must be repaid, medical expenses must be at thw adoptive family's costs since they're the ones who want the child, etc. No social backlash for the birth parent/s and no responsibilty on them after the child is born. If he dies or gets into conflict with the adoptive parents, it's not their concern and nobody expects it to be.
Until then abortion is preferable.
>>17027204
The whole point is that those people contributed to history and society in valuable ways, even with their problems.
Also, a lot of those "problems" are things that tons of adults struggle with. None of them are specific to or even directly related to the fact that they were adopted
>>17027200
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>>17027180
It's either trolling or it's a pedo guy
>>17027190
There are a few ways to address that question, bub:
1) Religious and spiritual perspective
Most religious belief sets in the world consider torture and murder as being an objectively bad thing to do.
2) Societal perspective
The vast majority of societies in the world have laws which objectively state that murder and torture are wrong.
3) Personal perspective
I tie you up and make sure you're nice and vulnerable. I then painstakingly inflict as much pain as I can before killing you. You don't get a choice in any of this. Sound good?
Out of these three points, there is some subset you can't refute.
>>17027181
>wants women to suffer forcing them to children they don't want, fuck the mother's mental health lol
>thinks he's not a monster
You're the only monster here.
>>17027210
You're right that that's the only way to make it preferable
But that's because we live in a society of people who won't hold themselves accountable or accept the consequences of their actions.
The benefit to adopting out your child instead of aborting it should be "CONGRATS! you didn't MURDER your child!!"
But people have literally been brainwashed into believing that their aboritons arnt murder in order to defend their fragile image of themselves as "good people"
It's like how Slavs owners dehumanized slaves and convinced themselves that they weren't human so that they didn't feel as bad morally about seriously fucking them up.
But if you've taken a single biology class you'd know that life starts the moment the zygote forms.
Sure, the baby might not feel pain yet- but that doesn't make them less alive/less human. If just means it's more humane to kill them sooner rather than later. But killing them at all is still morally wrong.
>>17027210
In the US, there are legal arrangements where the adopting parents will literally pay the birth mother to stay out of the child's life. Your point is moot.
>>17027226
Bitch, you don't want kids, don't fucking have sex. Simple. You have been called out on your sickening and evil attitude by more than one poster. Do your math bitch or better yet, kill yourself and we can have one less cunt on the planet.
>>17027224
Then why do you want to torture women with unwanted children?
And yes being forced to give birth and care for a child you don't want is torture.
Why shouldn't women treat unwanted children, the causes of their torture, like the causes of their torture they are?
>>17027232
Maybe because it's illegal? It's a crime? You must be trolling
>>17027226
No, I want woman to be accountable for their choices. If the mother knows she won't be a good mother and will be under a lot of mental stress, then simply DONT HAVE SEX. You DONT HAVE TO. It's NOT A NEED. Just because you've built a relationship that is hilariously contingent upon sex in order to be stable, doesn't mean that it should be a need for most people.
But yeah, go ahead and keep twisting my argument (which I've stated clearly several times now) in order to reinforce your image of yourself as a "good person".
Go ahead and re read some of your former posts if you really believe that I'm the monster in this conversation.
You disgust me.
And I'm not a man, I'm a woman. I'm just not a shallow cunt like yourself.
>>17027243
Because the child did not ask to be born. Women are evil, aren't they?
>>17027246
>if it's illegal it's bad
I bet you've never smoked weer before, or have you?
>>17027254
No. I don't smoke or drink
>>17027232
Who are we to dictate your life?
Well, I'm a member of society who represents the larger social opinion that what you're doing is wrong.
And as for the police, well they're the people who prevent others from violating the rights of the innocent.
here's an example of what you sound like:
>who are you to tell me what to do??
>that person pissed me off so I murdered them. Stop trying to live my life for me- I'll do what I want.
>>17027243
You don't know what I want miserable virgin loser. You kill yourself.
>be married
>don't have sex
My divorce lawyers will be happy to deprive you of all your possessions :^)
>>17027254
I don't even know what weer is. Is it anything like weed?
>>17025908
I hate the current sex climate too but not because of the reason you do, I hate it because if you aren't deemed worthy of it then you get left out and get literally 0 sex, whereas in the past older system basically everyone got reasonable amounts of sex from a handful of people at the absolute maximum
Basically fuck the 80/20 rule
>>17027253
And the woman didn't ask to be pregnant either. The child needs to pay for his intrusion.
>>17027267
It's a crime like murder you sick bitch. You are a disgusting POS
>>17027243
Because the child is only there because the woman made the choice that resulted in the child's conception.
We don't want to torture women- that's why we keep saying not to have sex if you don't want s child. OR have a surgical proceedure to make yourself infertile. That's the only way to 100% insure that you never conceive one.
Otherwise you need to accept any consequences that may come of your actions.
That's like saying "THIS WOMAN MAY HAVE HIT THAT MAN- BUT NOW YOU WANT TO SUFFER BY MAKING HER SIT IN JAIL??!!"
Like- there are consequences to actions that have been clearly established by biology and the law. Actions have consequences. Don't pretend like the people who enforce those consequences are the bad guys.
The child in this situation is the one who's rights need to be protected since they had NO CHOICE in the matter. The mother DID have a choice
>>17027275
Actually, she did - by failing to have protected sex. You truly are a despicable and vile human being
>>17027249
YES SEX IS A NEED WITH YOUR HUSBAND YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD. Don't pretend it isn't just because you're a frigid cunt nobody can love. I pity your mother.
>>17027275
She did.
she made the choice to have sex knowing that she could potentially get pregnant from it.
So in a way she did "ask to be pregnant"- she atleast knew that it as a possibility.
The child on the other hand had absolutely no say in the matter, and did not make any choice.
>>17027289
You idiot. Not gay sex but cp
itt moralfags throwing desperate last throws as their faggy puritan values see their final days
>>17027282
Accidents exist, retard. Are you blaming people for accidents? Do you also blame rape victims for rape?
>>17027291
Whew, someone's angry.
As I said before- it's not a need. Perhaps it's a need for YOU because you're LITERALLY EVIL and if you didn't seduce a man with your body he would surely never love you.
But to most people, or to ME atleast, marriage is a bond between more than physical bodies. A strong marriage doesn't rely on sex. Sex may make it better/more fun, but it shouldn't be the one thing keeping he marriage together.
Yikes. You have a really warped perception of marriage and children.
Why did you even get married?
>>17027301
Dude, then let's commit massive suicide because all women from this generation thinks like that.
Thanks, feminism!
>>17027304
You are blaming a child for being born. Simply using your own twisted logic.
>>17026232
>We get it, you didn't do too hot with the ladies in middle school/high school and you missed the boat for sexual/social experimentation
Fuck. I'm not him but that's exactly it. I never got to have any wild carefree middle/highschool teenage fuck fun or anything like apparently everyone else did and it's killing me inside. To this day I still have never gotten to fuck. I'm going to be 19 in a month and a half and yeah technically 19 is still a teenager so I still have a bit over a year but I just don't know. I don't know how to achieve that stuff, I can't get into bars or clubs, I couldn't get into any fraternities so I can't get into any parties, so the only other option is to get a girlfriend. I've lost a shit ton of weight and I'm losing even more and I'm going to put on muscle, I'm wearing fashionable clothes, have an undercut, all of that, I'm even going to try to get a summer job this summer.
But god damnit all I want in life is to get to fuck, no condom. I don't want money, or drugs, or alcohol (all of which I have offered to me all the time), I don't boats, or cars, or houses, or clothes, or food, or anything. I just wanna fuck.
It's like a nightmare I can't wake up from.
>>17027301
I agree.
But that's still not the ideal situation.
The ideal situation is that the psycho bitch gets her tubes tied so that there's no possibility that she can conceive (or her husband gets a vasectomy) or that she has enough self control and emotional stability to pleasure herself in other ways that don't risk conception.
But relying on birth control that isn't 100% effective still risks concieving a child, and people need know that and be willing to take that risk and accept the consequences.
>>17027304
We blame your mother for not aborting a disgusting evil bitch like you. You once were a child too. So go back in time and torture yourself to death you sick cunt
