Girlfriend says she doesn't want a future with me if I plan to have psychedelics as a part of my life. Specifically LSD which she thinks is horrible. She says "I don't want to be with some illegal drug user, what are you going to use next? I know you'll start using even worse stuff" yet she drinks alcohol regularly and smokes cigarettes every once in a while when I beg her not to for health reasons
Should I even miss her if this is her attitude?
>>17023884
All I can think about looking at that picture is how it would be such a bitch to keep it clean.
>>17023884
Answer some questions I have (keep in mind they are all mostly directed at you because you are the one I am talking to):
What does this relationship mean for you?
What does LSD do for you?
Also, expand more on the attitude that your girlfriend has that you mentioned.
Does it even matter? This isn't a "who's in the right" situation. This is simply a "you two just aren't compatible and you both need to move on to people who are" situation.
>>17023884
>should i even miss her
should and would are two different things. its not actually up for debate or discussion. if you miss her you will miss her, regardless of what we say. we will just help oyu feel justified in your LSD use.
whichi will not weigh in on.
>>17023884
Poor critical thinking abilities. Media, rhetoric and policy over truth.
Yeah fuck her man she's a dumbass.
My girlfriend's mom still thinks marijuana is the mark of a child molesting mass shooter. No time for these people, man.
>>17023908
Been with her 3 years. I really love her, honestly she's my best friend. But we've been having issues lately and now she's saying that if I want to be with her longterm I have to stop using all psychedelics of any sort.
I just think, "If she has this attitude that me and her are so casual she'd leave me over that then she doesn't really love me and I shouldn't miss her"
>>17023884
bruv psychedelics suck so heres my advice
>stop doing shitty psychedelics
>start doing stimulants
>stimulants=horny as f
>you horny as f get her ass ravaged
>you dont evn care if she leaves you cus ur self esteem is over the top
>problems solved
P.S. Never understood psychos and opiums and my gf left me cus i became a self centered asshole like you too but sadly for her i dont give a single fuck since im a fucking rockstar and i have nothing to lose other than my ability to have a errect penis
>>17023884
I have fucked around with a lot of drugs, nothing too hard, mainly party shit (MDMA, Speed dabbled with some other stuff).
Having said that, I would not go near a girl with a 10 foot pole who still did drugs regularly. Everyone who still does drugs that I know is a total retard. Weed gets a little bit of a pass, but even that would have to be a max of once a week.
I am 26 for reference. If you/she are younger, maybe she just made the same decision a little earlier in life. That decision being that I would rather be with someone who is going to get out and enjoy life me in stead of sit in drum circles and talk about 'the universe'.
Nothing against you, it is not like you want to date me and give a fuck what I think, but you can't blame her for coming to this decision, she is entitled to make a decision about you based on this. Drugs will shape your life unavoidably, even if it is not necessarily in a negative way.
talk to her more about lsd. why doesn't she like it? what does she know about it? did she know someone who did it and came out fucked up?
>>17023919
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>>17023884
If you're a triphead and believe you're reaching truths and heights and answers that are meaningful, please stop. Do it because it's fun and stops you from suck starting a shotgun.
I did an obscene amount of drugs in my teens. I specifically did this because I wanted to learn, and I wanted to do it in the company of people I loved, with the drugs bringing us closer.
Eventually, I realised I was wasting my time. And so are you. The ones who never realise that become acid burnouts. Or they dig up some mental dysfunction from licking MDMA off tables for half a decade.
Now I don't bemoan if you leavw your GF over drugs. Someone did it to me once, and it's no surprise that people who do a lot of drugs will always put them before people they care about. You're a child, too.
But I guarantee you, you won't be dropping tabs in 20 years. This is not your life, it's a distraction from life. A fucking great one while it lasts, but don't allow it to define you.
Cos if you're still doing this in 20 years, you'll be a fucking burnout.
>>17023975
>This is not your life, it's a distraction from life. A fucking great one while it lasts, but don't allow it to define you.
Dis
>>17023975
I'm not a "triphead" and I don't even do these things regularly. I smoke weed a couple times a year and take small doses of acid like once a month.
I like acid because I feel it cleanses my mind and helps me meditate deeply, as well as experience absolute euphoria from time to time and astonishment at everyday things. I love listening to music and seeing and feeling visuals that directly match it.
I'm not some druggy, I rarely do this stuff, but I plan to continue to rarely do it for a long time. And I just feel that if she's this judgmental and focuses on her emotions and the stereotypes she holds over her feelings of supposed love for me, then she's nobody worth crying over losing anyway.
She's willfully ignorant, we've discussed this so much and I've begged her to look at the truth behind the safety of alcohol and tobacco in comparison to psychedelics, but she listens and supposedly accepts it but then goes right back to drinking a bottle of Baileys here and there and smoking cigarettes, but complaining when I take a quarter fucking tab of LSD to clear my mind every once in a while (yes I love small doses).
Fuck this
>>17023884
Find a Mary Jane. You'll be a lot happier.
>>17023990
Here's the thing anon
You are trying to persuade her with a logical argument. However, her objections aren't really formed from logic - they're formed from emotion. I don't want to stereotype too much but honestly this is pretty common between men and women. If you want you can almost certainly get your way (i.e. preserving the relationship and continuing your habits) but ask yourself... Why? Would you not be happier with someone else? Could you not, in fact, be happier single?
>>17023990
Mate, I will give you that alcohol and cigarettes are terrible (both of which I partake in from time to time). That is not really the point.
What are the options open to you when you have some drinks and smoke a cigarette? You can go anywhere, do anything, be totally sociable. The acid thing sounds like a very personal thing for you, and it sounds like something she doesn't want to join you in.
As I already said (I am not the anon you replied to), everyone I know that still does this sort of shit anything more than once a year is a complete weirdo, posting barely strung together sentences to facebook once a week, then complaining their friends are shit, then asking for a couch to crash on.
Someone else stated it pretty clear though. You can feel whatever you want, they are your feelings. Miss her or call her an ignorant bitch, but I would leave you too, simply because drugs are something I left in my past, and a SO should be part of my future.
>>17024026
You can't go anywhere after drinking. wtf are you on about?
>>17024026
I'm not a weirdo. I don't crash on couches or even use Facebook, and I make 6 figures as an engineer and am completely respectable.
>>17024026
Also what's wrong with personal things that aren't sociable? That's another one of her arguments. "If it's not for having fun with other people who cares?" She's incapable of having any solo, contemplative moments. Art and music are boring topics to her, all she enjoys it getting drunk and dancing and she just can't appreciate it.
>>17024050
Sure you can. I can go to dinner and drink, I can go to a club, I can drink in a park; all with a group of friends. The only times I have seen drug taking be social is when people get rekt at festivals or more specifically to psych's, have a group trip.
>>17024060
Fair enough.
>>17024070
Nothing, I agree, having personal interests is totally healthy.It becomes more and more obvious though, that you and your girl just don't see eye to eye on these issues. So neither of you could be blamed for calling it quits. That is merely the insight I am trying to give, because I obviously relate more to her situation.
But shit, if you love here and are truly confident in your thoughts on the subjects, keep trying to chat it out. I have to admit if a girl asked me never to touch a drop of alcohol again I would try to reason with her and would probably not comply to save the relationship.
>>17024141
It's not even like I couldn't live without psychedelics
I did for many years and have only recently started using them (now that I'm older and my brain is no longer developing like back when I was a teenager and I stayed away)
It's the mere fact that she's giving me such an ultimatum which is off-putting and makes me want to say Fuck it and leave her. But the fact is I fucking love her to death.
>>17024161
Fair, ultimatums are shit, and as I said, if it were me receiving one for alcohol, I would just admit I couldn't do it (as you said, not because I needed it to live, but because I couldn't justify altering my lifestyle with no real reason).
But don't get too caught up on the ultimatum. If she is serious about it, for her it is either tell you honestly that it is a deal breaker, or slowly let it get to her until she just breaks up with you anyway.
I think your only 2 options are to say fuck it as you said, or tell her honestly that you can't alter your lifestyle when it doesn't align with your beliefs and how you want to live your life, regardless of how much you love her. Someone else said earlier that it might be a good idea to try to educate her more about what it is you believe, why you do it; rather than just saying "it is part of me, too bad" tell her what it means to you and why. If she still can't accept it, well, not much you can do.
>>17024208
I've tried to educate her but she's literally specifically said to me "I know it's safe and stuff but I still don't want to be with you longterm". I mean what the fuck. I don't get it, how can you claim to love someone but say you will leave them over something which doesn't even affect you. What the fuck.
It's not much of a loss since we have many problems outside of this one also involving her threatening to cheat (and even planning a meet with this one guy) as a result of me using porn occasionally in the past and lying about it because of how ridiculously sensitive she is. So I need to leave her
Issue is she's a big part of my life and I've actually never left anyone before so idk how to.
>>17024232
Well in combination with that stuff, it sounds like maybe she is just looking for any reason she can to make you out to be doing stuff wrong. Maybe she is not feeling it anymore too but can't figure out how to end it either.
Maybe the talk doesn't need to be about drugs. Maybe it needs to be about her respecting your agency in general. Not letting you watch porn is honestly some high school shit. Threatening to cheat over it is just IDK.
For what it is worth I have bailed on a couple of relationships by 'taking time apart'. It sounds like a copout, but the 2 times it worked for me we kind of both knew it was over, but just called it that to make it easier to accept.
She's closed-minded and easily influenced by the status quo and propaganda OP. Not worth your time
Psychadelics are partially to blame for who I am today
I would never stay with someone that feels that strongly against them, especially because I hope to live somewhere that I can grow shrooms some day
>>17023884
YOU GUYS BOTH DO THE SAME SHIT, CIGS YEAH, FUCK CIGS,
ALCOHOL IS FINE,
STOP BEING A LITTLE DRUGY AND GROW UP!
>>17024304
What? I've never smoked a single cig in my life and never will.
>>17024309
YOUR FINDING AN EXCUSE TO NOT FEEL BAD BECAUSE YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE SHITTY DRUGS THAN PEOPLE
>>17024309
>>17024289
YOU DISHONOR YOUR BLOOD
It sounds like you two are grossly incompatible. You should feel lucky! You don't even have to break up, she's doing it for you, just call her hand, and end the game.
>>17024304
>>17024323
That's weak b8, dude, what are you, like 10? Honestly, it's easier to find drug users than non-drug users these days.
Op I cant wait til she leaves you and you have a bad trip and all you can hallucinate is her.
Take a shower.
>>17024232
She's being narcissistic, look it up.
You could try to tell her she's being narcissistic, but it's about a fifty/fifty as to whether or not she'll listen and try to improve on it.
>>17023884
>Should I even miss her if this is her attitude?
I wouldn't. Cigs are disgusting. Alcohol is too, but I can accept it more because you get an actual high. Cigarettes are just cancer in tubes for a "buzz" that maybe lasts 10 minutes. Maybe. That's nasty.
LSD on the other hand makes you take a shit and maybe your stomach hurts. The reward is the sky literally comes alive and the stars seem like innumerable twinkling earths filled with life on an organized map of the cosmos. For about six hours.
I'll take the shitting and star gazing, please.
Educate her on LSD and the like and see if she changes her mind.
From what you put in the OP she seems to think its like crack or something.
>>17023884
>yet she drinks alcohol regularly and smokes cigarettes every once in a while when I beg her not to for health reasons
>Comparing this to LSD and psychedelics
>Choosing Drugs over a Girl
TopFuckinKek
>>17024492
>Choosing a girl over everything else in your life and your personal freedom
Top fucking kek cuck
>>17024500
>Thinking drugs are life
TopFuckingKek
>>17023931
Sorry, I havent read many of the other responses and just got back from work. I'll chime in again if you're still looking for more help.
And can you answer my second question Anon? What does LSD do for you? I'm not trying to be judgey or anthing, I just know that it can have different effects for different people, and I'd like to know what you, personally, get from it.
>been having issues lately
Tell me more about these issues
Okay, so she wants you to stop using all psychedelics of any sort if you want to stay with her longterm, gotcha.
>"If she has this attitude that me and her are so casual she'd leave me over that then she doesn't really love me and I shouldn't miss her"
Miss her--does that mean you are considering leaving her at the time being?
>>17024518
>Thinking your brain is anything other than a soup of endogenous drugs
>>17023884
The obvious answer is to slip your girlfriend LSD. You realize her having reservations is literally her saying
>I want to try it but I don't want you to think of me as a druggie
Do it, post results
>>17024519
LSD gives me intense feelings of one-ness with nature and a sense of appreciation for the beauty in everything. I have this naturally as well and have always loved nature, but LSD really is something special. If you haven't done it then you won't know what I mean, but it's honestly just an added benefit on top of an already fine life I have. It makes you hear music in so much more detail as if your ears are on high alert soaking in every single sound. It's divine.
It is my favorite drug and I prefer it vastly over alcohol. And its pharmacological harmlessness means I love it even more (apart from the minor risk of HPPD with overuse).
We have issues in that she is extremely jealous about how I've watched porn on and off for the past couple years of our relationship and never told her because she's just so sensitive. She would withhold sex from me so I used porn to compensate and she's mad over it still and threatened to cheat on me and stuff. It's unacceptable to threaten to cheat and honestly a good reason for me to leave her.
I want to leave her but idk how. I don't think I can manage it. And honestly I'd miss her so bad - she's amazing except for this horrible shit she does like threatening to cheat and telling me she doesn't want a future with me if I use psychedelics while she simultaneously drinks large quantities of alcohol and smokes cigarettes when I tell her not to. "I don't have to stop because you won't leave me over it"
>>17024520
>Using false equivalencies and getting this butthurt over your shitty drugs
>Drugs are un ironically this important to some "people"
>>17024531
Dude just fuck off. Go take some caffeine and alcohol and call it a day you "drug free" goodie two shoes.
How can I "care for" someone taking LSD for the first time? My gf recently made a new girlfriend who is into weed, psychedelics, obscure South American shit, etc. Neither of use have ever done drugs; I just drink lots of beer.
I don't want to take LSD because of a family history of schizophrenia and I'm at the age you're most at risk to manifest it, but my gf got some and wants to take it. Is she just gonna sit on the couch for a couple hours staring at the wall or am I gonna need to keep an eye on her?
>>17024548
if she's just taking one or two she'll be fine. both times i took it i just felt like a goofy little kid who thought everything was cool. she'll most likely have a good trip, which means you'll most likely not have to seriously supervise her
>>17023884
What a fucking bigot!
>>17024542
>Telling me to fuck off even though he started the argument replying to my post for OP
>Comparing coffee to LDS and psychedelics
>Still unironically choosing shitty drugs over his bitch.
>>17023884
40+ posts in and fucking nobody has stated the obvious yet?
Alcohol and cigarettes are legal you dipshit, she doesn't want to end up in prison for covering your ass. No one should have to serve hard time for what is their partner's drug habits. It would completely fuck up her chances of keeping a good career and public reputation.
And it's as >>17023975 already stated, if you do plan to make drugs your future then you're a fucking dumbass and she's doing herself a huge favor leaving you now.
She's just trying to look out for herself because you're too incompetent to think for either of you.
>>17024528
Okay, so it sounds like LSD gives you something very special in your life that you consider basically "divine", did i get that right? And you mentioned that it just adds to an "already fine life" you have. Okay, I can see how that would be a nice addition. And I'm a bit more curious, if you dont mind me asking, have you been able to feel that sort of "divine" feeling without using LSD before? If so, what was that like?
>She would withhold sex from me
Tell me more about that.
>and threatened to cheat on me
Tell me more about that too, if you don't mind.
So you do want to leave her. You mention you are stopped because you would miss her so badly and you do think she's amazing, besides the threatening and the psychedelic use. But there's also the aspect that "she simultaneously drinks large quantities of alcohol and smokes cigarettes when i tell her not to" So it also sounds like you care for her health and want her to lead a health life, does that resonate with you?
>>17023884
I thoroughly enjoy LSD, and if I had regular access to it I'd probably do it about once a month. I share your feelings about LSD, and I'm so grateful that my boyfriend also enjoys it too. We've had a night where we took it together and it was so incredible, and I couldn't imagine how much it must suck to have a girlfriend who disagrees with your drug use. Like if my boyfriend was against me doing LSD or DXM, I don't think I could stay with him. I'm sure you could find somebody equally great who also shares your feelings about LSD! Also, her withholding sex as a tool feels very wrong to me, and I'm not sure if she's as good of a girlfriend as you think
>>17024565
"Plan to make drugs your future"?
What the fuck man? I just want to drop acid and listen to Shpongle a handful of times a year. That doesn't mean I'm "making drugs my future".
What the hell is the problem and who the fuck ever gets caught with LSD? It's literally paper
>>17024570
Look man idk if you're ever taken acid, but no you literally cannot imagine what acid is like until you've taken it. It's out of this world, and it's more than just beautifully colored visuals as well. Yeah your walls will breathe and your body will melt into a puddle by your feet, but it's a spiritual feeling as well - one-ness with nature and everything you look at. Indescribable, I highly suggest it.
Anyway she withholds anything sexual when she's mad and is extremely jealous about porn use even though I barely ever fucking use it and only did when she's being a fucking bitch to me.
Then in response she threatens to cheat on me and even planned an outing with some guy which I begged her and convinced her to cancel and she did after hesitation. What the fuck am I doing with her. I'm holding on to a dead relationship wishing it was how it used to be
>>17023884
> she doesn't like that I do psychedelics
If you are just occasionally tripping like once a month, then I say your GF is a fucking bitch who doesnt love you for who you are.
But if you are tripping a lot, like every single weekend. And you are of it and can't really relate to her while tripping, then I would say she has somewhat of a point.
>>17024622
Okay, but I didn't try to imagine what it was like, I was simply stating that I can see why adding a nice thing on top of a "fine life" would be appealing.
It seems like there's a lot of anger coming up when you describe your relationship with your girlfriend. And it also seems like you've made your decision about said relationship
>>17024643
I don't even do it when we're together. I did once and her complete negativity gave me a bad trip and she blamed it on the drug. It doesn't affect us in any way, if I wanted to I could hide it from her completely and she'd never know. She's just being a bitch.
>>17024608
Whether you think you'll get caught or not doesn't change the fact you're committing a felony by possessing it.
Nobody who wants a serious relationship wants to deal with that kind of risk.
I would leave someone too if they were doing LSD constantly. If it was like once or twice a year I wouldn't mind but no more than that.
>>17024654
No point in trying to convince him, he doesn't get it. He most likely spend most of his time with other people who also break the law regularly, it's a lifestyle. I've met a few girls that would buy anti-psychotics and sedatives, who couldn't understand why I wasn't interested in staying around them when they had enough prescription pills to get us both thrown in prison. Or a friend of mine who thought it was completely normal to split a book-sized cake of hashish in the middle of a roleplaying session, with people he knew coming and going, buying and getting paid back. Because you want a connection to random stoners and druggies, right? These people don't understand that most people don't want criminals in their lives.
>>17024705
I'm not a fucking criminal
I have a tiny personal supply of LSD that I would never distribute to anyone. I don't have fucking bottles of pills and I don't use any fucking pills. I don't have some criminal lifestyle, I have a 6 figure job and literally don't even know any fucking druggies.
Stop painting a false picture of me - the same picture she's trying to paint of me as justification for her leaving me over this.
I don't support the abuse of any pills, I don't support the abuse of alcohol and I am vehemently against smoking cigarettes. The only drugs I would ever consider taking are psychedelics and I am morally opposed to the current government ban on them. Who the fuck do some sub-90 IQ pigs think they are to take them away from me "to protect and serve the public". That is my motto, continue on gobbling propaganda that everyone who uses drugs which are technically illegal is some criminal druggy.
>>17024723
>i am not a criminal
>takes illegal drugs
lol this guy
>>17024740
So many plebs in this world confuse denotations with connotations, and broad generalizations with the specific instances that resulted in said connotations. I'm sick of idiots existing in this world. Gain a more nuanced view on the issue, please
>>17024723
You're completely missing the point.
This deluded belief you have about being a freedom fighter for psychedelics has nothing to do with your relationship.
She doesn't want to have anything to do with it. She doesn't want to be around you while you mumble on the floor and hallucinate. She doesn't want to be with you should you get arrested or imprisoned for possession of a controlled substance.
Why do you think that your belief that people should be able to possess and consume psychedelics is more important than her preference NOT to date a drug user? You think you are so righteous in your beliefs that anyone who doesn't believe the things that you do is "painting a false picture of you"?
Believe it or not, psychedelic drug users aren't infamously intelligent, well adjusted people.
She doesn't want anything to do with it. Fuck your lifestyle and your self justification. She doesn't want any part of it.
That doesn't make her a bad person. Find someone who wants to trip and "rah rah down with the government" with you because this girl obviously doesn't.
I know this may seem hard to believe but some people don't share your enthusiasm for wanting to take LSD. Some people view it as a waste of time. Get the fuck over it, dude.
Get over YOURSELF and all of this will start to make more sense.
>>17024744
I don't really give a shit about your own personal view on what's criminal and not, so you can shove your connotations somewhere. The fact is that many people don't want to live with someone that's breaking the law on a regular basis, or hell, even socialize with them. Whether it be drug use, EBT fraud, fucking over your customers... it doesn't matter because you're adventuring their stability and freedumbs by being a fucking dumbass, who might get them dragged into the whole shebang, regardless of your own moral standpoints on the issue. I'm not refusing to hide gun for you in my closet because I give ashit about gun laws and ownership; i'm refusing because I don't want to get kicked in the dick by the justice system. Same with people who insist on recreational drug use. You might think it's overly cautious, personally I think it's just cautious enough.
>>17024785
We don't even fucking live together, my use of drugs doesn't affect her in any fucking way and I never use them around her. But okay
>>17024744
>>17024799
>We don't even fucking live together, my use of drugs doesn't affect her in any fucking way and I never use them around her. But okay
Ok, fuck off, dude. You wanted advice, we gave you advice and your only response is to tell us we're all wrong.
If you wanted unchallenged validation you came to the wrong place.
She doesn't want anything to do with you and your deluded idealism about psychedelics. After a short conversation with you I can completely see why she wants to leave you.
Trying to reason with you is like talking to a stump, dude. I can't imagine what she goes through trying to talk to you.
>>17024799
>We don't even fucking live together
Nice going, focusing on the relevant part.
You really don't think your GF has thought about moving in with you? It's most likely the whole reason why she's decided that she doesn't want to deal with you anymore, she doesn't see a future with you.
Just drop her and find some druggie whore instead, you'll both be happy.
