I'm going to be 23 soon and I'm still a virgin. Something doesn't add up. Why do I have to work so fucking hard to get a girl? I can ask them out fine irl and I can get numbers on Tinder/okcupid fairly easily.
But the flaking is out of this world. Yesterday I had 2 numbers. One from real life and one from Tinder. Former decided that we should just be friends and latter decided that she wasn't looking for anything(why be on Tinder then?). These two events happened on the same day which made me incredibly frustrated. I flipped out on the first girl. Gonna be fun seeing her at work next week.
Anyways, the more this keeps up, the more frustrated I become. And the more frustrated I become, the more I want to lash out on somebody. I don't think there's a better literal definition of sexual frustration.
What do I do? Masturbation has lost its effect a very long time ago and I already have enough hobbies to "channel my energy" into, which seems to be a total myth to me.
a girl can tell when you are desperate, and it's not attractive.
the more you say, look at me i don't have a girlfriend, the less likely you will be to find one
try getting a girlfriend first, so that girls will find you more attractive. Then girls won't see you as trying to get in their panties, and they will talk to you. once they talk to you they say he's not so bad, why does his girlfriend get him all to herself. girls want what they can't have, not what they can get anywhere.
>>17011473
Thanks, man. Now how do I get a girlfriend without having a girlfriend in the first place to not look desperate?
>>17011428
I know that feel. Your just like me except 4 years older. Fuck this bullshit.>>17011473
Fuck off. Oh hurdur if a guy doesn't want sex I want it if he does then I don't fucking women and their shitty minds
Girls are flaky. So you got rejected 2 times? Boo fucking hoo. Even players will get rejected lots of times in a row. It's a numbers game, get back in there. If you get 20 rejections then come back.
>>17011506
>If you get 20 rejections then come back.
I'm here. I said I got rejected twice yesterday. I've been rejected many more times before that. Didn't feel the need to specify that but I guess you're a little below the average.
>>17011520
Then you need to start figuring out what is wrong with you. The most common reasons girls find a guy unattractive are that he's desperate, creepy, or boring.
>>17011428
get a hooker they get to the point and you don't have to jump hoops like a dog just to get sex.
>>17011506
it's not a numbers game though. seduction is an art and if you're shit (as most dudes are) at it then of course you'll try and grind through it like you're some fucking wow gold farmer.
How did the conversations go? post them
>>17011561
We don't speak English here but the irl one consists of me typing in all caps, roughly saying "FUCK THIS". I'm starting to laugh about it now but I was so flipping mad.
>>17011428
Dude, just stop caring and focus on yourself. Get into good shape, get good clothes, get a good haircut, care for your skin and teeth, keep your apartment and car nice. But most of all focus on investing in your future.
And ask out girls in real life, not on tinder.
>>17011492
Put up an ad on craigslist or get one of your friends that is a girl to pretend to be your GF, have her send you txt messages and shit while your chatting other girls up, when you find a legitamate girl tell her youll break up with your gf for her
>>17011573
Getting in good shape mean that I need to have sex. Prolonged virginity is unhealthy.
>>17011588
Lmao, no it means lift weights, do cardio, drink only water and coffee, eat less processed food
>how do I get a girlfriend without having a girlfriend
look for girls with lower standard to start with.
ones with weight issues are perfect, any eating disorder, doesn't really matter. girls with low self esteem work too.
so you ask out the anorexic girl, and she says, "oh i'm too fat" and you say "no you're pretty" and poof she's your girlfriend.
then you take her out.
proudly displaying her on your arm, like you mean it.
Other girls see you walking through the mall with, chubby / bony / hairy girl, all affectionate like, and they think:
OMG what a kind-hearted human being.
He deserves better than that // she doesn't deserve him. He deserves me instead.
Girls shopping for boyfriends is no different than shopping for clothes. She won't buy it in a box, unless someone told her it's HOT.
She won't try it on unless she thinks it might look good on her, or she's feeling slutty. There are plenty of clothes just laying around.
But seeing clothes on a mannequin, boom headshot. Seeing how you look on another girl's arm helps her visualize. I'll take one of those please!
>>17011428
first and foremost, post a picture. even if you are attractive we might be able to find a root issue. until then we are guessing, speculating, and its not our job to sit here and offer up every possibility. narrow it down, post a pic. worst case scenario, you get advice on how to look better.
second thing though, it sounds like the first one from work never wanted to date you but was 'awkwarded' into saying yes because you work together, but ultimately decided that staying friends and saying that makes more sense than dating your co-worker.
its not her fault its going to be awkward at work, its yours.
>>17011473
>how do i get a girlfriend
>first, get a girlfriend
kills me every time
Hi /adv/
I just wanted to let you guys know that you actually helped me yesterday. After years of fruitless lurking, some of your advice actually sank in.
>sit next to qt in small discussion section of mentoring program
>find out that we visit the middle school we tutor at during the same hours on fridays
>start talking on the bus there and back
>conversations feel pretty natural
>we have similar sense of humor
>feelsgoodman
>butterflies
>2 months of this leads us to yesterday
>have to go to fair for the program
>mentors got together with a bunch of kids from the school on our college campus
>bowling, pool, pizza
>thought it would be pretty boring because my only good friend in the program couldn't make it
>i see my crush there
>she actively seeks me out to chill for the duration of the fair
>super excited
>start acting way friendlier than usual
>she's laughing at my jokes
>acknowledges that she remembers things we've talked about before
>actually having a great time
>my little heart is going nuts
>"Wow, maybe she likes me too."
>walk home smiling for the entire duration
>thought about last night when I was in the shower this morning
>realize that she's probably just friendly with everybody
>realize that she probably doesn't have romantic feelings for me
>realize that that's completely fine
It would be great if this girl happened to like me back, but I don't think so. She just has a really cute, bubbly personality. I feel like I've grown up a little bit. Thanks for all the help /adv/.
>>17011648
I posted my picture here before and people said I looked fine. I get compliments on my looks. I know I'm at least average. Not going to post it again.
I know it's my fault.
>>17011622
>look for girls with lower standard to start with.
WHY should I have to do this? You're making it sound like it's some sort of game.
>>17011669
>people said i looked 'fine'
we dont know that. we dont know what 'fine' is. a picture is worth a thousand words.
>i get compliments on my looks
from your mom? friends? that girl who says 'id totally date you if i didnt have this prior commitment'? were not biased.
>not going to post it again despite it going so well last time
uh huh.
>>17011663
Fuck me. Accidentally replied to this thread instead of starting a new one. Sorry OP.
>>17011671
No. From other girls. I don't need to prove anything to you.
>>17011676
>I DONT NEED TO PROVE ANYTHIGN TO YOU
>BUT I STILL EXPECT YOU TO CATER TO ME
no.
>>17011679
What? You can roast me for all I care. Say what you want, dude. lol
>>17011676
uggo alert. thats why all the girls cancel. go to the gym, get a face lift, and check back in 2 years if your dating life hasnt improved.
>>17011685
If I was ugly, I wouldn't be getting numbers on Tinder and the internet, which 95% based on looks.
>>17011676
>random girls who refuse to date me just walk up to me and say im attractive
>>17011689
if you were attractive, you'd be getting dates
>>17011691
>>17011696
I do get dates sometimes. This is about not getting sex. It never ends up with sex.
>>17011701
oh okay, so ur attractive enough to pay for a girls meal, but not attractive enough to sleep with them.
>>17011703
>paying for a girl's meal
I'm not American.
>>17011707
>not getting sex
you're not attractive either.
>>17011711
But I didn't post my picture.
>>17011711
Lol this anon is simply dying to see your face OP
>>17011714
exactly. if you were attractive you would have just posted it, since you claim you had no issues posting it 'last time'
>>17011717
I know...
>>17011718
It doesn't matter anymore, man. At this point you're just going to point out any physical flaw, I have, no matter how manner, and call me uggo or whatever. Again, I have nothing to prove to you.
>>17011721
*minor
>>17011721
quite the contrary, were /adv/ not /fit/. we offer advice at the very least that on how to improve. even when a black guy posted we just offered a new hairstyle and clothing options to better attrct nerd girls.
>>17011669
>You're making it sound like it's some sort of game.
Don't hate the player... hate the game.
It is a game. Life is a game.
If you don't want to play it, cash in your chips.
Getting a girl is like winning the lottery. If you don't buy a ticket, you lose every week.
If you don't play, you never get the girl.
There are more girls in the world that there are boys. Those are a hell of a lot better odds than the lottery.
Did you know the odds of writing a NY Times best seller, is 1 in 271
You gotta play to win bro.
Odds of dying from an injury in the next year 1 in 1,820
Odds of getting cancer 1 in 2
>>17011769
This i agree, life is a game, those who are smart and know how to navigate always win
>>17011783
some things you can do, improve your odds
some things you do, make your odds worse
don't want cancer? avoid caffeine, etc.
don't want to be in an accident? be more careful
don't want to be fat? go vegan
don't want a heart attack? go vegan
don't want ED? go vegan
you don't have a choice about playing,
you're already playing life, like it or not
how you play is up to you
>>17011803
Vegan propaganda
>>17011803
To further reinstate my words, you may win but there is always someone above you to keep going after, you win but you never fully win it all, unless your a world dictator of course
>>17011818
>>17011588
>Getting in good shape mean that I need to have sex
What kind of logic is this?
Seriously, im wondering...you think you need to have sex to join a gym or something?
I'm a 24 year old kissless virgin and couldn't give less fucks lol
I dont even bother with it anymore, I'm just focusing on my music production and that's all I want in my life, no girl will ever fulfill me like making my bread out of music can. Sure a girl here and there to fuck around would be cool but then I masturbate and my brain restarts immediately with no sexual desires whatsoever.
Make your passion your life and that's about it I think, everything else is just side things
>>17011818
Eat all the neat you want. It improves my odds of getting a girlfriend. Spending your check on viagra, and blood pressure medication, while your hairline recedes. mmmm those chili dogs, and burgers
and don't forget beers, soda, candy, and chips
girls go nuts for tooth-decay, i swear
>>17011803
laughing so hard oh my god
so vegans never die of a disease, they just reach 100 years and go to bed for infinity right lmao
>>17011769
Where the flying fuck do you get your stats from bro?
The only thing i can approve of is the tooth decay thing from soda and shit, that is true but since when does eating meat cause your hair to fall out?
>>17011691
btfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAkEYcmCCCk
girls won't even look at you, if you aren't with a girl
you are invisible to girls until you get girl approved
one you have a girl approval, you start to show up on radar. If you have a ring on your finger, you aren't just a blip on that radar, you have an invasion force circling you. surprise attacks, full on assaults. bombing raids, and submarines
don't ever get married, it's hell
>>17012174
Im curious
Do any of you people who are spouting this nonsense have any experience with being a relationship?
Ive been in several and ive never had this happen where girls jump you just because your "girl approved"
Its more likely that a good looking guy will be attractive regardless of having a gf or not
Same with girls, its like saying "oh you need man approval to get guys to like you"
Backwards ass logic really
>>17011871
hair follicles have tiny little blood vessels feeding them. plaque cholesterol and greasy meat clog up your dick artery
you want hair to grow, you need to eat collard greens, watermelon, rice and beans, spinach
>>17012214
do you even google? 65% of women, don't care if he's married. they don't want single losers.
study after study have been done on this
girls don't think for themselves, they listen to TV for what to buy, and where to shop
they don't trust their own judgment, bcuz mistakes have been made. they seek the approval of other girls. if you are dating a girl, it means she already did a background check on you and let you in her panties for a frontground check, and you passed.
maybe you didn't even pass, but she assumes you did, because you are with a girl
Hit the gym, stop being a fucking pussy and become a man.
That, or try getting a boyfriend.
>>17012275
My reasoning still is sound, it doesnt make sense
What you said could easily be applied to guys too asking why guys think taken girls are attractive and chase em
>>17012315
girls hate players. guys who are afraid of commitment, one night stands, and the like.
can't blame them for being cautious, their vagina doesn't have a warranty.
Single guys are single for a reason, they assume. a) you're gay b)you're a player, and you probably act like it if you're a virgin c)you're afraid to commit or worse, d) you're one of those clingy tiny dick guys that want to be with her til the end of time and can't get it through your head that it's over no matter how mean she has been to you.
(if you're a d) she deserves the lunch money she takes from you, for putting up with your shit, and letting you be in her friend-zone)
no possible explanation for anyone worthy to be single in this day and age, as far as girl logic can reason. Not worth taking a chance that you are an a)-d).
>>17012387
No offense mate but this attitude is toxic and I dont want to subject myself to it
Ive had my fair share of doubt and bitterness over life and i dont want to endulge these types of delusions no more
You don't "get a girl".
You meet another human being, and if they are attracted to you and they're available, then you might bump uglies.
And you don't "attract women"... you hit it off with a person. If you keep focusing only on their gender and getting laid, then you'll never actually have any kind of relationship, which I guess is the goal of most youngin's anyway.
Find someone that you share genuine interests with; don't exaggerate your interests or change them just so you can feel justified in chasing after a skirt. If you do that, then you're probably going to die alone with STDs.
[Its shocking how many people have STDs and don't know it till much later]
But here's the greatest tip I can give you:
Don't depend on friends or coworkers to help you find someone.
>>17012387
This man is absolutely right. I had a friend (we dated in the past but I still had feelings) who walked all over me and did some pretty awful things to me. All I try to do was make her happy. In my time of need when I needed someone to hangout/spend time with, she was occupied with other things.
When I found out how much she changed in the past year and stumbled upon her private life with her boyfriend she cut ties with me instead of talking it out. You may not have a girlfriend now but don't become the person I did. I never intended this to happen, I only wanted to make others happy. Instead I got used and thrown to the side of the road.
Stay positive anon and you'll find someone.
is better to masturbate tan having sex.
>>17012450
Shut the fuck up. As far as I'm concerned, you're all dumb, walking vaginas. I'm totally taking advantage of my next girlfriend. Not going to get walked on anymore. Women deserve nothing.
>>17011858
Don't you feel judged ?
I was out with a group of girls once sitting at a table in the food-court at the mall.
5 girls 1 me all of them friends of my GF but my GF was not there.
Girls #6 comes up and says hello to girls she knew at the table, gets herself introduced.
#6 takes one of the girls aside, and they talk. Didn't hear the conversation.
#6 left, friend returns.
finish lunch, afterwards she tells me the girl was asking about me, and that she told her I had a GF. In response #6 said "not for long"
Pretty fucking bold I thought, but no, this shit happens almost ever day.
Girls talk about their boyfriend to their own friends, and their friends obsess about their boyfriends. literally weighing throwing away the friendship against stealing her man.
guys cheat, don't get me wrong, but there is probably a girl to blame for it. when a guy cheats it's just a thing, it's not a premeditated, calculating plot, like when girls do it, and it for entirely different reasons.
bros before hoes doesn't allow this, but girl code is different.
if a girl steals a man, she has evidence to show that he was a cheater, and she did her BFF a favor by fucking him. they remain BFFs
I shit you not, gentlemen.
>>17012450
Lol spare me
Women don't give a fuck how much you have in common. They care about feelings of attraction and desire (vagina tingles) and then starts caring about commmonalities. Hell, the exact same can be said for young men. I can't be arsed to find them but studies have shown that young men and women aged 18-24 prioritize attraction over all else. This tends to lessen as people age and either grow tired of dating the same sexy jerks or alpha bitches, or have simply gotten it out of their system. It could also be argued that as women age, their attractiveness goes down, and they lose the ability to get the high value men they fucked in their prime.
The point though is that if you want sex as a young guy then you need to step it up and be attractive. Use that as leverage to land an attractive girl, because mark my words: no girl wants a guy who she thinks is unattractive, and it your only selling point is "we have shit in common" then your ass gets slammed into the friend zone.
I don't think connecting and shit is bad but you also need how to be a "man" and attract her with your masculinity. Act like the funny friendly guy and that's all you will ever be.
>>17011428
So you're a whiny cunt and angry that girls don't want to fuck whiny cunts? Girls already have a pussy why would they want you?
I think enterprising ladies around the world should start dating services. Where they pretend to be your girlfriend for a fee, to help you get a real girlfriend.
What do you guys think would be a fair price for this service?
An hourly rate? Daily?
or would you prefer a results based payout / money back guarantee? "we get you a girl or your money back"
what's it worth to you to get a girlfriend?
or to lose your virginity?
can one truly even put a price on these services?
your "rent-a-girl" can infiltrate behind enemy lines and spread rumors about your manhood.
Working your bride-to-be up into an insatiable sexual frenzy that can only be satisfied by dating you for herself.
"ronery semi chubby redhead with freckles
seeks, companionship with ronery boy who's
looking for love. I am a virgin, saving myself for marriage, but in the meantime maybe we can pretend to date, to improve your chances with your crush. you pay for dinner, coffee, movies, and pretend that I am not hideous in return, and i will coach you on girl-speak"
>25
>still a virgin
don't worry bro
women are clucks
>>17011573
this guy gets it. And once you've taken care of yourself you need to practice. Go out on the town consistently and hit on strangers. It will fuck with your ego, but over time you will get good at talking to girls.
Plus you should get laid just by pure chance. It's a numbers game
>>17011501
Part of it is your attitude. If you have a woman who you're committed to, then you don't want anything from other girls, and then they want you more. It's bullshit, but that's the way it is.
>>17011428
have you ever tried learning pick up?
>>17011711
kek
there's your problem OP, you need to narrow your search.
if you google "sex" you get billions of hits, and lots of useless garbage in the results.
don't just try and find sex
find a girl first
then add the sex parameter (typically $40, another 10 for anal)
>>17011520
> but I guess you're a little below the average
Maybe it's your personality :^)
Some dudes want their first time to be special, and I can totally sympathize with that.
So here's a plan that works, and makes things less awkward. If you have trouble talking to girls, maybe talk to her pimp instead. either way announce right away that you're a virgin
and you don't want to pay for sex your first time
nobody gets a freebie, not even on their birthday so spit this out quick or the pimp will kick your ass. I'll pay extra for a blowjob, and you throw in sex for free. Is this perfect or what? You don't have to look back and remember for the rest of your life that you paid for sex your first time, because you didn't.
Pimp not gonna turn down new customer
he might even hook you and her up with some junk to make your night extra special, and keep you coming back for more
>>17012600
23 kv living with parents
you cant feel judged if you walk around and dont give a fuck
>>17011428
I am having an identical problem. Explain how you look
>>17011428
Here's my advice for losing your virginity. It's very difficult to pop your cherry without an erect penis. Make sure your dick is hard before having sex. It's very difficult to penetrate a vagina with a flaccid cock.
Good luck man.
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>>17011428
Pick up chinese cartoon comic porn. Not only will you stay a virgin until wizardry, but you will also never get tired of masturbation. I started at 10 and am now 26 with no brakes on the fap train. I'm sorry I can't give advice, I should leave this board now.
