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How do i get better at sex? gf likes it rough, so do i but ive
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How do i get better at sex? gf likes it rough, so do i but ive been really vanilla past few years. can never find the perfect middle. either im too rough and its uncomfortable, doing too much or half ass cant really call it rough.

im loss. rough by my standards is typical choking, hair pulling, hard thrust. but too her its too rough. be more gentle but rough. i dont get it

how do into females idea of rough?
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>>16942335
Have you asked her what she means by rough? What did she say?
>obvious question is obvious
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>>16942335

most people dont ACTUALLY want to be abused, they just want the pleasure with the porno experience.

so you dont actually abuse her, just treat her like you're being rough. grab her by the hair but dont pull it. instead of 'smacking' her, just pat her really hard on the face. hook your fingers in her mouth like shes a little sex toy you're trying to open up.

also, sit down and talk out what she likes and doesnt like.

im lucky enough to be gay. fags love getting abused. ive choked a guy to tears and nearly vomitting and he leaves saying that its 'awesome'. they're always surprised by how brutal i can be.
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>>16942347
Typical female things,vague answers. Like just choke but not really. And grab my hips more. But doesn't really know what else

I thinks she's one of those submissive type, that want to be dominated. Typical 50 shades of grey mode. Except with out all the toys

Maybe I got the wrong Idea of rough. I'm going caveman lust on her when she wants a Christian Grey rough? Idk I'm confused
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>>16942370

imagine you're doing an awesome fight scene for a play. but you dont actually want to punch the guy cuz its a play . so you learn how to make it look like you're hitting so people can get all excited without doing any real damage.

same thing really. watch whatever pornos your gf is into, and then just mimic that without the actual pain. grab by the hair, but dont pull. talk about throat fucking her when shes sucking your dick but dont actually do it. wrap your hands around her neck but dont actually choke her.
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>>16942370
It sounds like she wants to be manhandled but not hurt. That's tricky but not impossible.

You can put your hands on her neck but not squeeze, that's easy. also:

- grip her arms and pin them down over her head
- just grab a handful of her hair without yanking it
- grip and squeeze her fleshy bits where it won't be painful (her arms, back, ass, and hips)
- wrap an arm around her and pin her arms to her sides while you fuck her from behind
stuff like that. Kind of make a little show of grabbing her and holding on or pinning her without yanking or twisting
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>>16942406
Good advice op.
Also, try if she's into you pinching or GENTLY biting her nipps.
Just use her for your pleasure, meaning you should plow away however you want to.
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>>16942406
Op here, good advice. Kinda noticed that she like it when I'd grab her arms to change positions. Prob do it more often.

May sound pathetic asking this. But how do I talk dirty to a woman with pride. Can't use the typical porn lines. She doesn't like being humiliated or talked down to but likes to be ordered around. She doesn't skip a beat when I tell her to do something. Like what do I say after she does what I ask? I run out of shit to say.
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>>16942335
sounds like too much pornstar punishment....imo was a good site.
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>>16942441
"Good girl"
Most of us eat that shit up.

You can still use the typical lines. Just gotta alter them slightly. Pretty little cunt instead of filthy little fuckhole. Minx instead of whore. Open that beautiful mouth instead of open that worthless mouth. Sexy bitch instead of dirty slut. Etc etc. You basically just replace all (or most) shaming words with complimentary words.
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