Still a virgin, what are the odds of it ending any time soon given my face?
>>16939973
Get some cream for your acne.
Get a better haircut. It's not horrid, but it could look less "8 year old on picture day."
Smile. SMILE FOR GODSSAKE. Everyone looks like shit when they take pictures of nothing more than a blank expression.
And stop dressing like you're in 7th grade. Graphic tees, dude? Come on. Go invest in some button ups or henleys.
>>16939996
its an old pic, I have an undercut now, the acne is gone, and I dont wear graphic tees anymore
so factor all that in and how fucked am I?
>>16939973
It's a pretty enough face to get fucked in jail after you rape women in the peace corps.
>>16939973
Good enough for fat chicks.
If youre lucky enough you could end up with chubby girl.
>>16940004
Only fucked if you have a shit personality. You have a very nice jaw, face is in proportion, good hairline, not fat. If you're still a virgin, that tells me it's entirely your lack of ability to talk to women. Don't be a sperg. Get out there and try. They won't come to you.
>>16940024
is it true that the more you talk to them the easier it gets?
>>16940024
He clearly is fat to a lesser extend
Srsly dude start lifting and you could become Chad
>>16939996
Also you really think button ups look good?
Also those henleys look pretty nice but I do wonder if the line of buttons over the neck are ok or not
>>16940034
I already lift
>inb4 bragging about it
No I just mean I am working on it, still have a lot to do
>>16940034
Is every monday wednesday and friday enough or do I need to do more?
>>16939973
Huh? Your face is fine I don't get it, maybe a smile would help?
>>16939973
As a bi guy, I think your face is just fine. You're not gorgeous, so don't be TOO cocky, but you should feel fine being confident in your face genetics.
Now you gotta make sure the rest of you is on point! Keep lifting (good work), eat right (diet drives gains... trust me), and keep chatting with the wimmenz. Yes, if you force yourself to just keep chatting to them and making small talk it will become much easier. Practice makes perfect. Chat about everything - try a range of conversations. Weather, food, their clothes, w/e catches your fancy. you might even start having fun with it.
>>16940107
Any idea why its only gay/bi guys and married MILFS that seem into me?
>tfw no 18-24 girls
>>16939973
Go fuck yourself OP
You have a perfectly symmetrical face with low acne.
Seriously... I hope you fucking die
>>16940113
Because you're afraid of millennial culture.
>>16940116
Its not like its gotten me anywhere man, I'm no normie thats for sure
I feel your pain all too well
>>16940120
>tfw he/shes exactly right
>except I dont fear it I just hate it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXcdYBh3hgg
How do I get around this problem?
Also I haven no problem with MILFS, its just that they are unwilling to fuck around because they are married so they basically dont count
And any guy is just no
>>16940131
They don't like your long legs, Turbo?
>>16940131
I'm just saying.
>Crooked nose
>Bulbous nose
>Acne
>Lazy eyelid
>Ugly mouth
>Psoriasis on my face if I don't treat it
>Unibrow if I don't pluck it
[spoiler]at least I'm not fat I guess[/spoiler]
At least you don't have to deal with that. It could be much worse so just stop bitching.
Also,
MFW this guy
>>16940147
>>16940113
LOL stay away from the milfs,you'll thank me later.
Maybe because of their perception of masculinity reflect by you?
>>16939973
considering you are 3/10, I'd say very very low.
>>16940113
because men are hornier and milfs are low value
most young women (even if they are average/ugly) can and WILL only go after chad
>>16940653
But milfs are bitchy millennials
>>16940663
I am not a damn 3/10
>>16940668
>milfs
>low value if you view it from a purely sexual standpoint
>37 year old woman
>not a millennial bitch
>highly sexually experienced
>still looks good
>low value
>>16940653
>>16940694
*arent bitch millenials
>>16940694
have you ever dated a "milf", cause i have, twice, and it's awful compared to dating a perky 20 year old
you know that yourself otherwise you wouldn't be bitter about only being approached by these types and not women your age
>>16940713
I already said, from a purely sexual point
No shit for relationships they are no good because of the huge age range, but I mean just for hook ups
>>16940694
You're a 2/10, tubby.
>>16940722
Sure I am Mr. white knight
>>16940694
you forgot baggage from past relationships that will get dumped onto you.
>>16940729
You forgot that I said
>low value if you view it from a purely sexual standpoint
As in I was saying that they are high in value from a purely sexual standpoint
>>16940724
>posts a picture asking for feedback
>gets feedback
>wahhh i don't like the feedback
apparently you're not only ugly, you're also an enormous brat
>>16940738
These guys say differently
>>16939996
>>16940024
>>16940069
>>16940107
>>16940116
>>16940736
and you think that wont carry over into sex?
>all these people shitting on OP like he's not more or less average
Is this that thing where women have a skewed perception of what an average guy is? If you're going to die a virgin it's probably got something more to do with your attitude than with your looks.
>>16940744
good for them, but i told you MY opinion
so why do you act like such a brat when i gave it to you?
>>16940754
I don't see how it would and besides I'd be getting pussy so who gives a shit?
>>16940759
Thought you were someone else
>>16940756
Do you think I could look better than average over time with some work put into it or no?
>>16940756
The main reason I'm shitting on him is his previous threads. He hasn't gone full psycho in this thread yet, but all he ever does is complain about how women are bitches and whores in modern day times, that women used to be subservient to men and that we "took what we wanted" by forcing them to have sex with us.
It's only been 2-3 weeks since his thread about wanting to join the peace corps so he could rape women in third world countries that couldn't peg him for the crime, because he's such an assblasted virgin.
He's also pretty fat and thinks somehow that translates into being really strong.
He's the worst poster we have on /adv/ short of "Careers and Languages" Brandon and the tripfags.
>>16940768
Yes. Even an ugly person can shower, take care of their skin, work out, eat well, dress nice, and pretty much do a ton of small things that can make them jump from a 3/10 to a 6/10. That's really it.
>>16940796
I figured. OP sounds like a little shithead and that's almost certainly the reason no girl wants anything to do with him, but I still felt it was worth point out to him that based on looks alone there's nothing blatantly wrong with him other than being a bit fat.
>>16940814
So is 6/10 the threshold for looking attractive?
>>16939996
Also I'm gonna get out there and geta few button ups or henleys
Any good clothes for warmer weather?
You have the makings of a decent face but it's buried in access fat. Lose some fat and it'll sharpen up.
>but I lift
You probably should've focused more on cardio until you got the fat situation in order. If it's only 10 pounds then that shouldn't kill your noob gains to eat at a deficit. So, eat at a 500cal deficit. Or if you really are that ripped, show bod pics.
>>16940824
There's no threshold. A 6/10 guy who's well groomed is always more attractive because he looks like he gives a shit about himself.
Not your appearance but your perception of yourself OP,If what the anon said above is true then it not your face that's fuck up.
Go read about moral and ethics then look in the mirror again.
>>16940839
Dude I'm way ahead of you, I'm eating at a 1000-1500 deficit
Its the hydrogen bomb of weight loss, desperate times call for desperate measures
Also glad to hear that my idea about sharpening my face up is true
On this diet you lose so much weight from the diet that cardio would make such a minimal impact that you are better off not doing it just to avoid possible muscle loss due to your body eating its own muscle to keep going, but I do lift weights to help preserve the muscle until the diet is over
>>16940841
No I mean like, 1-3 is ugly by all accounts, 4 is meh, 5 is just normal, and then from there it gets really mixed responses when I talk to people
But in general there is ugly, in the middle, and good looking right?
So what number value is good looking?
Also I never said I was ripped, I wish, but I'll get there at some point, every mountain starts with the first stone and all that
>>16940852
Considering more than 80% of men are considered below "average", my guess would be somewhere around 9/10.
>>16940839
Well actually sometimes it gets as low as like a 2000 deficit
Like I go days eating nothing but one little turkey, ham, and provolone cheese sandwich with a handful of various nuts like cashews pistachios and peanuts once every 24 hours
Once every 72-96 hours I get to eat one normal meal, but that's it
>>16940852
Well alright. Some guy says you keep making threads and that you make rants about woman being conspiring Chad lovers, so if you do that then stop. I'd hold off on making another thread until you hit an acceptable weight for your limited muscles. This thread is premature, and frankly belongs on a /soc/ rate my face thread. But even given the reality that your face could look better in 4 months or whatever, if you're walking around wearing logo t-shirts then the fassion isn't really there either. And I'm not feeling the hair styling.
>>16940864
And that's pretty stupid, 2000 deficit. Pretty stupid stuff.
>>16940870
You didn't answer any of my questions here though >>16940852
>>16940879
It's called a protein sparing modified fast
PSMF
I can eat 2500 and literally sit on my ass 24/7 and just stagnate with my weight, not gain or lose any
If I work out with muscle training and do this hydrogen bomb of diets diet, then I hemorrhage body fat
I've already lost like 17 pounds in 3ish weeks
>>16940879
Here's a pdf on it
http://holisticmd.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ProteinSparingModifiedFast.pdf
>>16940880
That's because you responded to two different people, me and some guy, so I responded to my section. You don't break up a post responding to multiple people and expect... just... no. But whatever, I'll respond to your questions that you directed at someone else.
Anything sub-six is not worth consideration beyond a one night stand that you aren't proud of. Any girl that's sub-6 gets rated a 6 because rating a girl below 6 isn't nice, but in reality you wouldn't go for her. Same goes for men, really. I see the scale as more of a "6-10 is workable" and anything sub 6 is a "oh, you're real nice girl/guy but life is is complicated right now." And I wouldn't call that picture a 6. In summary, there is no "rating" below a 6, as you call everyone a 6 or better. But anyone who's not a 6 isn't desirable, and that's that.
>>16940947
So what's the absolute maximum you think I can get to assuming I drop all excess body fat and put on muscle, combined with a proper hair style and good fashion?
>>16941022
That's a lot of assumptions, but if I'm granting you the benefit of the doubt on all of them then you could probably hit 7.5, up to 8.5 if you get really ripped or you dress really well. Like I said though, 6-10 is what puts you in the game. You could be in it, definitely, if everything mentioned is addressed.
>>16939973
My ex looked like you
>>16939973
You look like a kid that used to bully me when I was younger.
I'M GLAD TO KNOW YOURE STILL A VIRGIN BOBBY YOU FUCK!!!!
Sorry. I had some pent up rage there I needed to get out. Apologies if your name is Bobby.
>>16941124
Awesome
So what do you think I am right now?
Remember that the pic is a bit dated and I have one of those undercut haircuts
I always wear matching clothes, I exclusively wear blue jeans but I think I need to expand my pants line up (any tips?)
I wear these shoes that I don't know the name of but I have a grey and a brown pair and they look similar to loafers but they aren't, they are hard to explain, they are more towards the casual side though
I always wear short sleeved shirts and none of them are multicolored, although one is grey with black cuffs and a neck thing
Its a huge improvement over how I used to dress, used to dress like a vagabond, but I feel like I still need more improvement
So hair is in order, clothes are as simple as just knowing what to wear, buying them if I don't have them, and bam
My biggest problem is the body fat and the lack of muscle really
So if I am still overweight and don't have enough muscle, but I do have a good haircut and good clothes, how do you think I look?
Do I even hit 6?
(This is short term but just curious)
>>16939973
If you were genuinely happy (and content with your life), that'd show on your face and would make you instantly a lot cuter.
You are very average looking so consider yourself lucky.
>>16939973
lose weight.
dress better.
you aren't ugly.
just not particularly lovely either.
>>16941189
that's how my face looks automatically, the pic was taken a while back and its just me with a neutral look
Seriously need some clothing tips now
Especially since I have like 0 acceptable short pants or short shirts, they are all autistic shit from middle and highschool, I need some good ideas for a new warm weather wardrobe
Is stuff like this any good?
https://www.abercrombie.com/shop/us/mens-henleys-tees-and-henleys
Also pic related is something I'd like, I like darker colors
>>16941196
>that's how my face looks automatically
That's the point......
>>16939973
You have nice features, you're just boring to look at.
Take meth/steroids and when you find a woman decent enough to be worthy of your time beat her ass into the ground! Because that's all women deserve anyway.
Your have a punchable face. Stop being a beta and grow a beard
>>16939973
Just grow a goofy hairstyle and dress kooky
bitches WILL come crawling
I'd put it this way. If you're not getting laid it's not because you're too ugly.
>>16941453
>he thinks beards look good
LMAO
>>16941336
So you think I'd just be smiling all the time?
