So, I plan on leaving this hellhole If Trump wins. I've read about being able to become an Irish citizen If you are related to someone who was an Irish citizen, I was curious If anyone know how far back that goes and the process to get It started. Along with Italy, I know Its a shit hole but I hear the North Is pretty nice, my great grandparents left Italy about 100 years ago to flee WW1 by ditching to America, does that count as renouncing citizenship? I really feel like Clinton will win the dem primary meaning that Trump will either sweep states formerly blue (NY) or get some swing states ( FL ) or Clinton will wipe her ass with Trump, either way Clinton or Trump I want out. This place Is a racist cesspool of sociopathic hyper capitalists. Has anyone here gotten dual citizenship from Ireland or Italy?
Though I don't know why you would leave the US for Europe - heck I'm working my butt off to do the opposite! - you shouldn't think about citizenship for now.
Start of by moving and working over here for some years and then citizenship will come natural (most countries over here don't make you jump through hoops for that).
I hope my post was of some help
>>16697669
>a racist cesspool of sociopathic hyper capitalists
literally me
We're gonna make america great again
Trump 2016
You're a fool if you really think this or any election is going to bring such quick and distinct changes to your life that you will want to leave.
The grass is always greener. Stop looking for things to bitch about.
>>16697669
Have you looked at the demographics at all? It is literally impossible for a republican to win national office, much less someone as pointlessly divisive as Trump. You can't win the presidency when the only group you get a majority with is white men.
In 2004 44% of hispanics voted for Bush, it seems impossible to imagine any republican getting anywhere near those numbers when they've become the anti-illegal party. So atleast president Trump is never gonna happen.
As for getting citizenship in europe, I'm afraid it may be little more than fantasy for you. Unless you're fabulously wealthy or can marry a citizen of that country your options for citizenship abroad are unfortunately quite limited.
And hey, you know, just because other countries don't have the same problems we do doesn't mean they're perfect. Both Italy and Ireland have really serious long term economic problems, unemployment of people under 35 in Italy is over 20%.
>>16697698
>> In 2004 44% of hispanics voted for Bush, it seems impossible to imagine any republican getting anywhere near those numbers when they've become the anti-illegal party.
A fair share of hispanics that vote/voted Republicans are probably the same Hispanics that absolutely hate and despise illegals though..
Another fair share of them will probably support at least the moderate Republicans (especially Sen. Rubio).
>>16697712
you might think that, but Rubio has backtracked hardcore on his gang of 8 stuff and regardless it doesn't seem like the republican primary voters have any interest in nominating him
>>16697727
I beg you pardon Sir but I wasn't commenting on the possibility of him getting the Republican Nomination - just that if he got it and was to run against Hillary then he might get at least some Hispanics behind him.
I hope you have a nice Sunday.
>>16697698
If Trump loses I don't care, I'm a socialist and Sanders Is the only way for me. My family has been pretty much socialists since the inception If it. Obviously my family had to hide It from the public during the red scare as people like to confuse democratic socialists with commies. Point Is, I know about the EU's economic hard times, but I can't live In a country where innocent people are shot and killed on the street for no reason. I also can't live In a country with such hubris to exclude new immigrants. Sorry, but If you're a nation of immigrants you should probably not renig on that just because It Is no longer productive to bring in immigrants we are separated by a fucking ocean and a sea from these vile extremists. We need to take In refugee children and women ( Background check of course, they tend to recruit, but the children morally must be welcome). I have a decent degree In government and poli sci so I'd be a productive member of society. I was simply curious about some dual citizenship laws In Ireland/Italy.
>>16697687
If he wins the people have spoken. Help the people that don't wanna be here when he wins get out of dodge.
>>16697740
inception of it*
>>16697740
I'm going to part of the right wing death squads
I can't wait to cull the liberals
>>16697740
you want to abandon your country because some assholes don't want to let in new immigrants? This backlash has existed with every single wave of immigration, and it will always exist. Its up to us to fight it, don't run away because things get hard.
>I can't live in a country where innocent people are shot and killed on the street for no reason
what do you mean by this?
>>16697740
As a future US Citizen I want to tell you this:
PLEASE LEAVE
> Obviously my family had to hide It from the public during the red scare as people like to confuse democratic socialists with commies.
Seems like your family has been as stupid as you are for some generations now hm?
In case you missed the fucking memo: LONG TERM GOAL OF SOCIALISM IS COMMUNISM YOU MORON
>>16697746
lol. I simply want to return to my ancestral homeland. I'm not a liberal btw. Born and raised socialist, learn you political ideologies bud.
>>16697746
aaaaand filtered
Descent stuff only applies if your mom or dad was born in another country.
>>16697757
annnnd faggot
Nice EMS wageslaving, does it burn that McDonalds workers that smoke pot literally get payed more than you? I jerk off into towels that are worth more than your month's wages
Since I really want to have you out of the US let me repeat what I already said:
>>16697683
Don't worry about citizenship. It takes time to get that in any European country.
Just go find a job and leave.
>>16697772
I thought you fucked plastic pussy not towels?
>>16697798
Why are you so fixated on my penis?
>>16697803
because its comical.
>>16697808
I can't argue with that
I do love to laugh
>>16697771
God dammit. How bout Italy?
>>16697776
Why exactly do you want me out of the US? A bit weird but alright. Off to Éire come 2017 If Bernie loses.
>>16697753
LOL. There Is a middle ground you asshole. I studied political ideology for two fucking years. Socialists have to paths, one Is to communism, the other more modern version Is a market that Is restricted primarily on big banks and large corporations. I despise Lenin, Trotsky and the other Russians that fucked original communism up. I by no means want to live in a country where land Is owned by the state and given to It's people. I want a nation for the people, by the people and of the people. If that means capitalism with restrictions Is the answer then Im fine with It. That's what America use to be, that's why my great grandparents didn't give a fuck about voting Democrat or Republican, because JFK was awesome as was FDR, Truman, Ford, Eisenhower ect. Even though those men were anti communist/socialist I love them, because I'm not an ideologue, If we can all do well then I'm fine with whatever the doctrine may be as long as equality ( And no I don't mean safe spaces and pc bullshit, just regular equality ) and isolationism Is part of it, along with no corporate lobbying and restrictions on the banks.
>>16697870
two*
>>16697870
>FDR was antisocialist
>created the most socialist programs in the federal government
American education at its finest
I bet you think Lincoln wasn't a traitor too
>>16697877
I lumped them all Into one. Tight on time. I know what FDR did, the glass steagall act which stopped banks from gambling private funds, along with medicare and medicaid and a billion other things to revive our economy. He was anti communist, but personally he was rather socialist. As for Lincoln, he was a racist and even said If he could keep the negros as slaves and mend the union he would've. But that doesn't diminish his achievements.
>>16697877
I have an associates and a bachelors degree In two different fields, If you really want to go at It give me twenty minutes and I'll whip your ass. Just pick a subject matter.
>>16697891
He was a tyrant and deserved the bullet in his head
How's medicare and medicaid doing for our economy now?
>>16697903
LOL Nazi alert. Medicare and Medicaid has helped for over sixty years. Republican defunding made It useless.
>>16697903
Better than 3 useless 10 year old wars are or ever did.
Fuck off now.
Not OP btw.
>>16697756
>Socialist
>not liberal
YUP
>>16697910
You have to be fucking with me now right? You really don't know the difference between the two?
>>16697712
>A fair share of hispanics that vote/voted Republicans are probably the same Hispanics that absolutely hate and despise illegals though
Ayyyyy mi amigos
>>16697910
Just to help clear you confused mind. A Socialist that Is also a Liberal Is considered a Social liberalism which strikes a balance between social justice and individual freedom. You probably should take a class or two in Community college. You know nothing.
>>16697909
Great argument
>>16697908
Helped who? Its an bullshit entitlement that boomers think is their right to have because they spent all their savings smoking pot and buying stupid shit
Go to Greece if you want a bankrupt nanny state you irresponsible red scum
>>16697924
Your*
fuck im high, still destroying Fascists tho.
>>16697928
MODERATORS:
Can you please ban this user?
How many of you faggot socialists and liberals are over the age of 30 in this thread?
>>16697928
Oh wow. Perhaps It's a thing because we feel a need to take care of our elders? Perhaps FDR passed the laws he did like the GI bill to ensure that the soldiers that fought In Europe and Asia could get a free education, and get taken care off later In life. Sounds like a decent deal when you consider who we were fighting.
>>16697935
Two degrees, going for a masters In Poly sci. Aged twenty nine. Close enough.
>>16697913
>>16697924
Because words are too much for you
>>16697939
>feel a need
Emotional sensationalism isn't an adequate foundation for a government.
>free education
Free indoctrination by liberals? Education is already free since we have the internet.
>>16697947
See how they are different? Liberalism and Conservatism are right off to the left and right of the moderate point. Also, Liberalism and Conservatism do not evolve Into what you are insinuating. Or the Republicans would demand a King, then a Fuhrer, and the Liberals would be demanding Communism then Anarchism. None of that Is correct. This Is just sad. Just because they are left of center does not mean they are the same ideology. You are looking for Social Liberalism. That Is when Liberalism and Socialist ideals meet. Again, that chart alone Is totally incorrect. Nazism was a group of national socialists, so right off the bat the chart is incorrect. You could argue it was fascism, which it was In the last years of Hitler, but he fixed the economy through economic reform ( Socialism ) then expanded his country using fascist doctrines. Please educate yourself.
>>16697959
Alright whatever. Goosestep America Into tyranny I don't give a fuck. Just know the majority of Americans won't take too kindly to deportations left and right.
>>16697973
What Americans are getting deported? Immigrants who are here legally don't have to go anywhere. The only people getting deported are ILLEGALS who didn't go through the proper channels to get in this country.
>>16697973
>le nazi meme
Liberals always use ad hominem when they have no arguments
I heard Germany is open to refugees, go on then coward
Stay away from ireland you liberal weak willed shit. Especially if you're not white.
>>16697979
That's not what Trump wants. Do you really think he'd stop with the illegals? He's calling Hispanics rapists for Christs sake. He even says Mexico forces the rapists and murderers to come to America. And the whole wall thing.... That's just stupid no matter how you cut It.
ITT
Bernie supporters have rustled jimmies.
>>16697982
I'm Norse-Scottish and Irish. Why deny a man with two degrees from a nation with economic problems? I've worked In think tanks, my work Is considered pretty fucking decent. And I'm genetically tied to the British Isles.
>>16697986
That's not how it works you dumbass.
>>16697996
Because you sound like a fucking pussy and socialist scum like yourself already ruined the republic once
