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>do software engineering for work >"anon, we need
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>do software engineering for work
>"anon, we need this thing done this instant, it's critical"
>"uh sure I can do something very fast but it might not be stable long-term"
>"that's fine, we just need it RIGHT NOW, it doesn't have to be perfect"
>10 minutes later
>"anon, why is (this thing) not working perfectly? It worked a long time ago, when this was a completely different thing!"

this happens all the time at work, what do I do?
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>>16678438
Suck it up.
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>>16678438
Ah the age old "Do you want it done right or done by Wednesday?" problem. There is no answer, anon. You simply have bad management. Welcome to engineering.
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>>16678454
this.

It's what you're paid for.
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>>16678458
Unfortunately, management would look at that question and say "both" without the slightest shred of consideration or remorse.
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>>16678483
Ergo the bad management. Good management knows how much time it takes to produce quality tech. From your post it seems like they don't even understand basic development practices and only care about making promises to the client.
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>>16678438
Refer them back to the memo you wrote stating that if your code is to be used on a regular basis instead of just to meet the immediate emergency condition, it (and whatever process/need that it is being used to fulfill) should be reviewed.to make sure it's suitable for long term use.

You didn't write that memo? You dumb bastard.
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>>16678438
First step, clearly define the objectives.
>WE NEED THIS RIGHT NOW
>OK, what does it absolutely need to do
>How long does it need to do it for?
Then broadcast that shit everywhere.
>Email header: New 2-week only software attached
>Verbally to coworkers: This does X,y,Z for TWO WEEKS. After two weeks, no promises.
>On the software somewhere: EXPIRES IN TWO WEEKS

You see? These isn't literal advice; it's more metaphorical advice that you should adapt to your specific situation.
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>>16678618
the problem is it's usually _immediately_ after
Like "I can't create a thing on this website and it's blocking me from doing things, I need it done immediately".
So I go in and fix it as fast as possible. Then he will say "but now the form looks kinda funny :\ this button is misaligned, this placeholder is worded strangely"
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>>16678438

Get a new job?

Preferably one that values product management, change control, and software changes following a proper SDLC before being propagated into production.
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Sounds like you're shit at managing people and their expectations, which is a good 50% of most IT roles and definitely engineering roles.

>>16678618
Best advice in the thread. Learn to say no. If you're unwilling or unable to say no, learn to manage and refine expectations and most importantly ALWAYS have spec to fall back on. If you don't create basic spec for small things you're essentially giving away a large amount of your time per week on nothing.

In short, stop being a dumbass and take yourself and your time more seriously.
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