for the women: how do i stop caring about getting girls? i've been trying for years to no avail with even one. i just don't want to die a kissless virgin desu senpai...
>>16599671
That's probably a better question for guys to anwser. They will have more experience in not focusing on finding a girl and what helped them. As far as not having got one yet there are a lot of factors that could contribute: are you social enough or in social situations enough to allow opportunities to meet women? Are you hygienic? Do you dress well? Do you take care of yourself? Do you have a job? Are you comfortable talking to girls?
Can't really give advice without knowing where your problems lie. Are you on dating sites? You could post a pic of your dating profile for tips/constructive criticism.
What is dry humping?
For women: would you have sex and cuddle for hours (like holding each other close the whole night in your arms) and not feel anything for the guy after various sessions?
>>16599704
Like making the moves to fuck but with clothes on.
Not a question but a general tip for women:
If you werent so fickle and indecisive and actually gave guys a chance maybe the stereotype of guys being uncaring assholes that only care about sex wouldn't exist
The more I try to put my feelings out there as a guy the more I get hurt, so Im learning what many guys in my generation already know: Dont put your feelings out there
>>16599704
Essentially just rubbing up against each other while kissing but with clothes on.
Normally the precursor to sex itself
>>16599724
Don't put your feelings out there because you're a man and having to rely on anyone or anything is a vulnerability. You need to be self-sufficiently strong and happy to throw away anyone or anything if they hold you back. People that aren't really really really good bros and girls most of all.
>>16599729
This is exactly what Im learning. Its weird because I was raised to be the opposite, to show my emotions, to be caring and attentive and focus on others over myself
Fucking single mothers am I right? What a fuck up
Essentially being a man is doing everything on your own and needing nobody, even if you feel like you want someone, and attracting people to yourself and never chasing people
>>16599690
>are you social enough or in social situations enough to allow opportunities to meet women?
yes, i often attend social events and parties and such.
>Are you hygienic?
yes. i'm almost hyperaware and make it a priority to make sure at least my hair is combed, my breath is good and i don't smell (always have deodorant on me).
>Do you dress well?
many girls have complimented my clothes. one said i look like i could work at banana republic and another called me the best dressed at my uni.
>Do you take care of yourself?
i started working out a few weeks ago.
>Do you have a job?
i recently quit my job after working there for 11 months and i applied for another just a few days ago.
>Are you comfortable talking to girls?
yes, but not those i'm interested in. handful of girls that i wasn't romantically pursing have told me i'm "too friendly", but others say i should stay nice but it's obviously not helping me.
>>16599742
No you're not a fuck up neither is your mum. It's being strong like a rock. Family is the most important thing of all. Be there for your mum bro. She did the best she could and I'm sure she loves you.
>>16599746
Im sure she did and Im sure she does. Im just objectively looking at my lack of a father figure growing up is probably a good explanation for being shit at relationships
Or maybe its the lack of a happy healthy relationship model
Who knows
Why do girls put out Facebook messages that want a specific person to call them?
i am currently doing three months of internship abroad. is losing my virginity to this guy i met worth it? i want to save my virginity for someone special
Girls. Do you actually, earnestly know what you want in a partner?
>I want a sensitive man
>I like manly men
>I want him to make me feel like a princess
This kind of shit doesn't count. It's a vague hand-wavy description that reduces down to "I want somebody that fits what i want" It's useless in practice.
Second question. What do think MOST WOMEN want? Same rules.
>>16599795
Age?
How many times will you be able to fuck him before you leave?
Is he a virgin?
>>16599809
21, i have two months left, no
>>16599821
As a guy I will say I would slightly prefer to fuck a virgin. There are big pros and cons to both though, and in a relationship situation it wouldn't even factor in. At your age, I would just assume you've had 1 or 2 partners already.
She's a virgin:
>I'm not self concious about how good I am
>obv clean. No need for condoms.
Not a virgin:
>she'll enjoy it more
>I'll enjoy it more because she knows what she's doing.
>>16599715
Personally no. I don't have casual sex though I prefer to wait till I care about someone and am in a relationship.
>>16599724
I'm sorry you got hurt but people make mistakes. Men do this too.
>>16599788
Facebook is so 2004.
>>16599801
You are asking what we want but then saying what we want isn't specific enough? I think I'm a bit confused on what kind of reply you want. I know what things are important to me and I know I've been surprised with qualities I didn't think I wanted. We probably know what we want in a perfect man as much as you know what you want in a perfect woman.
>>16599841
Wut?
>obv clean. No need for condoms.
Except for the whole pregnancy thing...
Also, if you're self conscious about how good you are, you're doing it wrong in the first place.
>>16599795
Here's my experience with waiting, and then just saying fuck it.
I'm a dude, and I tried to save myself 'til I met someone "special". I turned down a lot of easy opportunities, until I was 24 and thought I met her (not necesarily someone I wanted to marry even, just someone who I truly cared about and admired. And I still do in some ways) It didn't work out.
After that I pretty much just said fuck it, and slept with the next girl who wanted it
It was pretty terrible. Vapid, empty, and super meaningless. I literally thought, "This was it? This is what people steal, rape, and kill for?". Our second time together pretty much netted the same. It kind of skewed my perception of sex for a little while after.
My second partner was a close friend, and we just started hooking up because, drunk, bored, and horny. It was ok, but also felt pretty self serving and selfish, because while we were close, the sex was just sex.
My third partner however... that was the first time I truly understood what the hype was all about. It was pretty much just a one night stand, but we truly liked eachother and had massive chemistry. We laughed, smiled, and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves the entire night, and the morning after, I literally woke up with a grin on my face that didn't fade for hours.
My fourth partner, my girlfriend, we shared a lot of the same elements from the partner before, and both of them taught me that there was a definite difference between sex, and making love.
TL;DR
My experiences tell me this: Don't over hype yourself on special, but don't do it just because you feel like you may as well get it over with. If you really, genuinely like him and think you can manage to have fun, enjoy yourself, and make a happy memory, go for it.
>>16599885
I'm asking if you know what you want. If the answer is "not really" Then that's fine. I'm pretty solid in knowing what I want in a female though.
>>16599899
Most chicks are on the pill nowadays. Even if they aren't sexually active, it just helps regulate. And if they're going to be sexually active, then getting on the pill is basically a requirement.
If you're NOT concerned with how good you're doing, then you're doing it wrong. That's just shitty, effortless sex.
I've been going out with this girl for like three or four weeks, I know for a fact she likes me a lot. We went out yesterday but it was like for two hours and I really want to see her again today.
Will I come off as too needy or are we past that phase?
>>16599904
Then yes I do know what I want. It has changed as I've gotten older. And sometimes I give a chance to someone who doesn't particularly match up.
>>16599912
So what is it?
And second, what do you think the answer for most girls is?
>>16599909
>requirement
lol... sure... requirement...
And you do know how temperamental as fuck that shit is? If you don't take it at the exact same time every single day, or if you take certain medications, or if you're recovering from certain sicknesses, or if you drink too much, or half a dozen other things, the pill can just not work (my girlfriend has an implant exactly because of that. She's a product of the exact scenarios I mentioned and wants to take no chances)
And you're arguing against your own semantics.
You said self-conscious in a negative fashion--not as in paying attention. You can definitely be self-aware without being a unconfident.
>>16599918
Just remember you asked for this haha. Also I'm sure there are things I'm forgetting but the list got pretty long.
>24-32
>at least 5'10
>skinny/skinnyfat/average/chubby
>dark hair/brunette
>good smile with dimples
>clean shaven, a little scruff, or a short trimmed beard
>will play video games and watch movies with me
>prefers staying home cuddling playing vidya movies junk food wine to going out
>the smarter the better especially if passionate about something
>loves scifi space robots science math
>well mannered and polite
>funny and will get my odd asshole/sarcasm humor
>protective
>will do dishes if I cook
>wants kids and a dog one day
>good with computers/programming
>isn't racist or hateful
>smokes weed but not a complete stoner or alcoholic or any hard drugs
>good with kids
>respectful of other people's feelings/not mean to be mean
>enjoys Netflix binges
>has patience when I ask a 100 questions or lose my train of thought
>doesn't yell loudly or throw/hit things
>competitive with me and doesn't get mad when I'm a sore loser
>loves football
>prefers the radio turned up in the car to talking while driving
>loves his mom
>prefers colder climates
>likes spooky adventures
>doesn't rant about music he hates and how awful the artist is just because he doesn't like them
>can hang out doing their own thing in silence but still be together
>is loyal and does his best to do right by others
>always agrees with me when I'm upset and ranting/venting so I can get it all out
>>16599918
Also I have no idea what other girls want. We all want different things that match best to us. Since we are all different I'd assume our dream guys are as well.
>>16599954
This is a good list. Curious why you have skinny/skinnyfat/average/chubby in there though. As in, you literally included every body type except well muscled or lean and toned. Would you honestly dislike it if the guy you were dating had a six pack?
>>16599974
I don't like really muscular guys or really fat guys. Any inbetween is fine. A six pack? Not if he was lean with a six pack. But super muscular looks like he's gonna pop or came from jersey shore, no thanks.
Ladies
Context : I've know this girl (been in the same classes) for 2 years now, I've never attempted anything or made any moves : we've remained neutral friends and never hung out. My mindset changed a lot in the recent months and kinda started to get emotionally attached. How can I show interest without making it seem abrupt/"out of nowhere" ?
>>16599999
Chequed
How desirable are virgins to women?
>>16600064
none at all
>>16599976
as a guy, they don't care. they already know that you're not a buff hunk with a 6 pack and 44 inch biceps. So don't worry too much about it. Too much porn for you.
Do girls think that a guy being a virgin is romantic, like its your first time
>>16600131
>>16600064
I don't know. If I really liked a guy and was attracted to him I'd be down. Could teach them stuff, let them use your body to try things they've always wanted to do, get to see their reaction to all the firsts, go femdom with it get bossy and have them worship you. Wouldn't be so bad.
How do you know if a girl likes you or is attracted to you enough that she's willing to sleep with you?
>>16600150
>trying to have consentual sex
>2015
>come on anon, shes gonna cry rape eventully, even if you are innocent
>>16599649
Women, what would you think/do if you were seeing a guy for a month and he hadn't made a move yet?
>>16600245
Like any move? Hand holding? Cuddling? Kiss?
I'm going to assume he's not into me and move on.
>>16599715
Nope. I wouldn't have any kind of sex if I didn't have feelings and I wasn't committed.
>>16600248
we hug, but i haven't kissed her yet.
>>16600248
>>16600259
haven't kissed anyone yet, actually. This is my first "relationship"
>>16599801
Yes I know what I want. I can't specifically tell you what most women want.
>>16599841
>>16599899
This is why we have unplanned pregnancies and a rising rate of STD transmission
>>16600144
I totally would. I'd think it would be awesome!
>>16600064
I would not have dated my SO if he wasn't one. I'd say most girls who are virgins by choice and care about their virginity want the same in a partner.
>>16600378
I loved that me and my boyfriend were both virgins when I lost my virginity. We both had never wanted to be with anyone else. No condoms needed bc birth control. Since we were both new not really a lot of performance anxiety but a lot of experimentation. And by that point I was head over heels in love.
10/10. Virginity loss would lose it that way again.
>>16600396
Exactly! I wouldn't want it any other way.
Any girls with big butts/thighs here? have you ever been with a guy who was had a small penis? if so, how was it?
I ask because i really, really love women who with a nice ass and thick thighs.
the thing is, i feel too intimidated to ever talk to such women because my dick is only 4~4.5 inches when erect. when i look at porn and see all these guys with dicks way bigger than mine i just feel like i could never ever satisfy a woman.
In your personal, hypothetical opinion;
You are currently on a break with a boyfriend you've had for some time, however due to his success he is spending less time with you and more with his work colleagues trying to make it big. You have recently started a new job.
A work colleague has made it quite apparent that he thinks you are attractive and has made it plain that he thinks you deserve better. Do you consider this colleague to be an asshole?
Would you, if the situation was right, accept affections from this work colleague if he were to become more serious towards you?
Hypothetically speaking, of course.
>>16600466
Dude but, not that hard. Move skin away, come in at different angles. Getting penetrated deep isn't anywhere near as a big a deal as stimulating the right spots in women (which is different for every woman btw).
>>16600474
I'd say to this girl, get with your colleague because the man trying to better himself deserves much better than someone who is ready to bail out as soon as she isn't getting enough attention.
>>16600481
I am the colleague, and I think the man "trying to better himself" has a vanity problem and she's going to suffer for it.
>>16600489
Don't pursue people in relationships. It's a shitty thing to do and it will never work out in your favor. You'll have a shit reputation after and screams you approve of cheating to future SOs. There are billions of other girls. Stay out of it.
>>16600489
Plus if she does that to him, you think she won't leave you for the first guy to give her attention?
if i'm literally less than an inch away from being 6 inches when erect, am i okay?
>>16600498
>>16600499
Male or female pls.
>>16600506
Not those anons, but I'm a girl and I completely agree
I gave a dog head once. Actually, I gave two dogs head more than twice.
Am I ruined for a relationship forever? It's not like my breath reeks of dog cum and my clothes smell of fur to this day, is it? I don't even have my own dog and live in a no-pets apartment complex.
>>16600506
Female
>>16600513
So, just leave her to get used by her ego-tripping boyfriend?
Ah well. There's always beer.
>>16600516
Exactly stay out of it. If he is as shit as you say(or she says to you) then she will leave him. Then you can swoop in and comfort her.
>>16600520
> swoop in.
> wearing a shirt with an eagle.
Well. That seems oddly appropriate.
>>16600514
guy or girl?
>>16600528
furries are almost exclusively gay
>>16600514
Fucking disgusting 2bh.
is it ever a good idea to try to make a move on someone already in a relationship? even if they are being flirty/touchy
My girl friend asked me over text how I'm doing. She's currently getting wasted at a birthday party. I'm holding the fort at home, feeling lonely and bored.
What should I reply with? Should I just be honest?
>>16600561
Scroll up ^
I want to give my new guy the best BJ possible, Ive done it before on other people. I would like some extra tips to what are good things to try out
>>16600563
Just tell her you're bored or say you're not bad. The lonely thing comes off as needy.
>>16600563
Good but I miss you :)
Girls; any dating advice for sub 8/10 males? ie: ugly males to you
>>16600584
Bear in mind that women settle way more than men do. Men aim for the 8s and up. Women aim for the average guys, even if they don't consider them attractive. Women are weird like that.
>>16600539
I'm a guy
>>16600528
t-thanks
>>16600581
Is saying I'm alone just as bad? Like just chilling on my own or something
I kind of want to be more open towards her, and just saying I'm bored sounds so negative
>>16600587
>women are weird because they value personality over looks
>>16600591
>More open
Not sure I can help you here. I'm of the firm belief that men can't express all of their emotions or feelings because they need to somewhat of a rock in relationships. Backwards maybe, but sure. I think using the word "alone" should be avoided, but I suppose you can tell her you're on your own in some capacity.
>>16600593
Women do this with men that they've never met. Whose personality they do not know. I'm talking entirely about looks. Personality doesn't even factor into this.
>>16600590
Why the fuck would you do that?
That's not even gay as fuck anymore, that's even worse than that
>>16600609
It was fun. I like animals.
How is it not "gay as fuck anymore" compared to if I were a woman? That doesn't make any sense
I often find that other men I know fear taking up the responsibility of being a husband and a father, and even the ones that are fathers resist growing into the role and keep their adolescent spirit alive inside of them. This is all from intimate man to man conversations I've had with close friends. I'm starting to feel so distant from men I've considered like brothers my whole life because I'm starting to see that they have no interest in living past young adulthood, which I've begun to find stagnate.
Have you noticed this same trend with other women that you know, that many fear the responsibilities of womanhood and being a mother, while refusing to grow past emotional and mental adolescence? I've never really had an opportunity to talk about these ideas in depth with a woman.
I think it was watching Macbeth that really initiated my lamentations of our society obsessed with youth. There is something inside me that is yearning to have a marriage like that, bound with a woman who is my emotional and mental opposite, where we challenge each other to expand beyond our immediate field of experience.
>>16600010
Just ask her out.
>>16600064
I don't care either way.
>>16600144
Virginity is not particularly important.
>>16600245
I usually make a move before then.
>>16600466
Your penis is just fine, your insecurity is not.
>>16600474
Yes, he's an asshole. No, I would not accept affections from an asshole.
>>16600514
Disgusting.
>>16600561
No.
>>16600584
If you're going to make sweeping judgments about how women see men, you don't deserve advice.
For girls is there a good way to get women to understand when they are hurting you without making it seem like you are attacking them?
>>16600579
Don't neglect the balls. They are an often overlooked erogenous zone
Tomorrow is two months of our relationshiT, cuz she is not giving her into it as much as I do. I live in small town and that is problem cuz there is few nice looking girls and i count mine in them, other are her friends or already in some relationship which makes shity situation. From beginning of 'us' i feel a bit depressive cuz her parents work in other country and she got much more money than me so that makes me feel uncomfortable, she never had boyfriend before me (she told me that, and she don't know how to kiss) but she had crush on one guy so i think she is myb afraid of getting hurt again so that's why she act like that. I sent her msg in about 18 o clock, she liked picture of guy i don't talk with (he is good looking, going to gym, and taking proteins, creatine etc, also got lot of money) in 19:50 and answered me in 20:10. Things like that happens all the time, not with liking that guy photo, but other photos, then answering to my messages. I think i am slowly falling in love, what should i do? There is new year, so i don't want to break up cuz i don't want she think i did that cuz i don't got money for gift (which i have) so what should i do after that, help me bros :)
Pic related actualy
Girls, what do you do on parties and/or club nights out? How often do you end up with a guy? How far do you go with them if it's not serious? Do you seek them out?
>>16600681
I never go out to parties or clubs
>>16599841
You realize STDs are most often transmitted through dirty needles and not sex, right?
>>16600514
Pretty sure that's animal abuse.
Girls: do you like cuddling and groping?
>>16600703
I dunno, they both seemed to enjoy it.
>>16600787
Cuddling yes. Groping while cuddling, yes. Random groping generally catches me off guard and is hit or miss depending on the mood.
How long after my wife passed away should I start dating? It's been four years and I'm lonely. I have a four year old daughter (wife died during childbirth). I'm 26. Is this a red flag for women?
>>16600681
When I was a bit younger, I would occasionally go to parties and occasionally make out with a guy. But I never had rando-sex. I usually sought them out because I don't like going through hard-to-get formalities if we're already at a damn party.
As I got older, it just became less fun. I didn't want to be the girl sneaking off with some dude, I found it more fun to just get drunk and talk with friends and chill new people.
>>16600816
What a slut
>>16600818
Eh, I've watched other girls do worse. I'm not clean handed, but I'd never open my legs to a random. Sorry I'm such a slut, Lord Anon.
I've been with this woman for two weeks: she wants me to go to her parents with her for dinner. Isn't that a bit soon?
>>16600810
>wife dies during medical procedure complication husband had nothing to do with
>women take this badly and as a red flag
fucking americans
>>16600824
At least you know your place
Women
Why do you love putting guys in the friendzone.
The question stems from my own relationships. Somehow I always end up in the friendzone with the girl I like. This is largely my fault because I like to be friends with girls before I date them. You know, have an understanding of who Im getting in a relationship with. But we usually end up in a somewhat flirty friendship because we're still feeling each other out. However the problem is whenever I try to move further than the flirty friendship. Obviously women are juggling more than one guy but as soon as I ask for more theres the hesitation like she cant decide what she wants. Then eventually says we should just be friends.
Now of course Im okay with being her friend, but Im not about to be her beta orbiter. So I cut out a lot of things in the relationship like choosing to go hang out with the guys when she wants to hang and not actively seeking her out anymore.
The issue for me is that this is when the girl decides to come on the me. Like as soon as I try to move on she suddenly finds me more appealing. This is usually how I end up in relationships. Im just kinda tired of it. Im not playing games with her but when I reflect upon the situation I cant see the difference. Why is it that only when I refuse the beta orbiter position can I get a girl.
>>16600872
Girls don't put men in the friendzone. Men put themselves there. If you want to fuck and she doesn't and you still hang around her in the hopes that maybe one day she'll fuck you, you've put yourself in the friendzone. You are in total control of that situation.
>>16600787
Yes and yes
>>16600887
No we a girl you have a flirty relationship and potentially to date tells you lets just be friends youre being put in the friendzone.
If I wanted sex I wouldnt have a problem. I dont sleep around but tons of women come on to me. Could be that I only try to get women who arent immediately interested in me by my looks.
>>16600901
No. When you stick around after being rejected, that's putting yourself in the friendzone. All it takes to escape, is walking away, which you are in full control of.
>>16600872
Are you willing to date every single girl you meet? Didn't think so. Women are no different.
>>16600907
Did you even read my post...
And what youre describing is leaving the friendzone and her all together after she put you their. Lets just be friends and being rejected arent the same thing.
>>16600800
>>16600895
thanks
>>16600916
These are normally situations where its clear that the girl is somewhat into me. I dont ask girls out when I dont think I have a chance.
>>16600917
Jesus Christ, you're an actual retard. Every single time you agree to "let's be friends" you are putting yourself in the friendzone. When she says "let's be friends" you can say no. You can walk away. You can cut all ties. YOU choose not to. YOU choose to stay just friends. She makes the proposal and you accept it. If you don't want to be in the friendzone with someone, you just leave.
>>16600920
Men read interest in situations that are completely platonic. I promise you, you're misreading the situation.
>>16600926
You shouldn't have to explain that to him. If he was reading the situation correctly, he'd have a girlfriend.
>>16600921
All youre saying is that you can leave the friendzone. Im not about to have a retarded argument with you about what being in the friendzone means because I think youre blatantly wrong and you feel the same way so were not about to get anywhere with that.
But the definition of the friendzone is irrelevant to my original post.
>>16600931
>>16600926
Did either of you finish reading my original post. If I were blatantly wrong then she wouldnt come back to me and I wouldnt have 90% of the gfs Ive had.
Please read the whole thing before commenting because otherwise theres no point in me reading yours.
>>16600931
Touche.
>>16600932
>Why do you love putting guys in the friendzone.
>But the definition of the friendzone is irrelevant to my original post.
Are you actually mentally disabled? Your entire post is framed within the context of the friendzone and your misunderstanding of it. What you really meant to ask is "Why don't girls like me?" or something similar. The other anon is right. You're just shit at reading women.
>>16600936
She's treating you like the friend you are. I don't understand what's so difficult about this with you. You cut her off, so she makes contact because YOU'RE HER FRIEND and THAT'S WHAT YOU DO WITH FRIENDS.
Dude friendzones are nobodys fat
Guy here btw
Listen here
You aproach grill
She doesnt feel the same
Friendzoned
You aproach grill
Feels the same
Gf bf gratz
They dont enjoy putting us in the frienzone
Well soke sick bastards do cuz they think they are powerfull but those are not worth getting
So do you get that you both have to like not just you? Good
>>16600926
Also,
>completely platonic
feel like I should point out how this is bullshit. You dont flirt in platonic relationships if theres nothing there. Im not desperate for girls and sex so I dont look for signs that arent there. And again, if I were wrong she wouldnt even consider it or come back.
>>16600936
>Why do women like me more when I'm not a beta faggot than when I am a beta faggot that follows them around like a lapdog with no self-respect?
Gee, I wonder. You fucking spastic.
>>16600945
Pray tell, how is she flirting?
>>16600944
Omfg sorry for the worst of typos the keys on this phone are shit...
>>16600945
>You dont flirt in platonic relationships if theres nothing there
Confirmed for never actually having had a social experience with the opposite sex.
>>16600942
Im sorry, I should have explained what I meant by coming back.
I mean pretty much begging me to take her back. Of course no woman with self respect would beg but like flirting 10X harder, seeking my attention more, crying about bullshit. Then we usually have a talk about it and she feeds me bs about how she wasnt ready or something and we start dating because Im a sucker and actually liked her.
>>16600941
If the word friendzone triggers you so much than dont read it. Honestly I hate how bad people are at arguing stuff. Its my, post and my way of conveying things. The words mean what I think they do because those are the concepts Im trying to express. Not what you think they do.
Just remove friendzone and read it as why girls say lets just be friends and stop being autistic.
>>16600956
Your question has become all sorts of fucked up. Rewrite it, saying exactly what you want to actually ask
>>16600956
>than
>the words mean what I think they do
Fucking hell, you actually are mentally disabled.
>Why do girls say lets just be friends
Because they want to just be friends. This isn't fucking rocket science, you absolute twat.
>Begging me to take her back
You never had her. Why would she ask you to take her back? You're obviously talking absolute shite.
>>16600947
I could reply but Im not here to argue, take your insults elsewhere
>>16600948
Excessive touching, tickling leading to cuddling, dumping other people to hang out all the time. Excessive laughing at shitty jokes. Im mean really theres no cut and dry way of knowing when someones flirting but its kinda a mutual understanding. If she just told me I was wrong then Id ignore it.
>>16600959
What exactly is confusing about my question?
>>16600963
As I said, not here to argue. Even though I feel youre wrong Im not about to entertain this toxic mentality.
>>16600968
>If she just told me I was wrong then I'd ignore it
She did. Right around the time when she told you that you're just a friend to her.
>>16600971
>toxic mentality
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>>16600972
Yes, which is where my post continue where afterwards she comes back and we start dating and in my head when I replay it, it looks like we were playing this big game with each other. Im getting too old for this shit though.
>>16600944
>>16600979
Read the fisrt post in this post and stop filling up the thread...
>>16600979
You're a dunce. Just leave and stop shitting up the thread.
>>16600944
Just realized this was probably meant for me.
As I said, I dont just approach girls. Im not into casual relationship hooking up. We normally know each other for a while first. Secondly this doesnt explain why we later start dating. Hell this is how I got my first girlfriend in college. It was college granted so we were all stupid kids but she even starting crying that I wouldnt kiss her when she had a bf. She later left him because in her mind it was pretty much him or me and we started dating. Still feel like shit for it but she kept saying things like its her choice and that its not mine or his. Then later tells me I stole her after she convinces me to date her by saying Im not but Im just getting triggered in memories here. Other girls arent anywhere near as bad as that.
>>16600982
Just trying to understand the opposite sex here so that I can stop ending up in these childish situations.
>>16600990
Yes
I was a friend with my gf for almost a year
But she liked me wery much but didnt want to say things
So what im telling you is
If she likes you or develops feelings then there will be love
If she doesnt and likes you only as a friend well hell there you go
I have a lot of girl friends but that doesnt mran i friendzoned them they are my friends...
And yes i by your definition friendzoned a couple of girls because yet again i was not interested in them emotionaly
They did like me and we stayed friends and then we stopt hearing from eachother
I mean my best friend, and almlst like a little sister to me friendzoned me because hell i was in love she wasnt
We are friends for almost 10 years nkw and i dknt feel love for her. I mean not gf bf love i love her she is dear to me but different kind of love
So please
Why the fuck is it so hard to understand the simple meaning of emotion
>>16600996
Sometimes it cant be helped man.. I got ,,friendzoned'' many times
I friendzoned a couple of times
But yet again i had a couple girlfriends who i really loved but the feelings went away over time
It happens
Oh and no matter how much you know or are alpha or ehite knight some girls will like you more some just as a friend
Because we are all different
Now that that dumb debate is over i hope the same guy sho answered fir the friendzone spectacle has a wuestion for the girls
When you please your man, and i mean with anything else but your vagina or anus, do you alvays di it with love and affection?
Thinking about how she feels in love and connected when she pleases me makes me even more in love with her
I knkw i feel that way when pleasing her
And i dont mean just like sexual things i mean also things like massages footrubs etc not only penis massages bjs handies etc
Ladies, how big of a deal is height? I'm a good looking guy who has unfortunately been stuck with the height of 5'7. I am exposed to a lot of social events with girls, am reasonably confident but I fail miserably with women despite my best efforts. I don't want to turn to the red pill due to their extreme views but at the same time I feel as if I've been dealt a shitty hand in that I'm so close yet so far
>>16601014
Again sorry for my typos this phone has shit keys
>>16601001
Yeah this isnt over the span of 10 years. The first girl was probably 4 or 5 months but thats because I didnt "disappear" as she puts it until then.
But in general when I ask the girl out and she says no. After like a tiny bit of being "friends" by how I see it and not being "friends" (beta orbiter) as she sees it she comes back to me with all kinds of shit. Ive heard shit like
>You never wanted to be friends
>You were just using me
>you left as soon as you felt that you couldnt have me
And then I explain Im not about to cuddle with a girl I have chance with. Or do things I dont really want to and that those are things you expect from a relationship and not friends. And then we end up dating.
Of course not every girl comes back and I dont expect them to because then it would only confirm that I too was playing games, but they the others become somewhat bitter.
This isnt the same as just falling in love over time. Its falling in love after drastic changes in our relationship.
>>16601004
If you read my entire post. Its not about being rejected. Its about how women once they see you refuse to be a beta orbiter after getting friendzone see you as more appealing or something along those lines. I dont want to play games and would like to skip that step altogether. If I never had a chance we would never start dating.
>>16601016
It matters but I'd date a short guy if he had a nice face or was even slightly muscular. I require only one of the 3 to be satisfied.
>>16601036
Ok since you dont see the patern
Listen, guy
You asked why do girls lime putting guys in friendzones
They dont
The ones that do are retarded
Move along please..
They DO NOT enjoy putting guys in friendzones nor it is a reflex or a deffence mechanism or any other possible explanation you have
It just happens
They might not want a relationship atm even if they like you
Or dont understand theyr emotions
But they do not love makeing friendzones
And trust me if she had feelings from the beggining and wanted you you would be kissed not asked to buy chips and watch a movie as friends...
>>16601053
The thing is I'm reasonably muscular and am known to have a good face. It's a joke amongst my boys about how I can't get laid due to how ridiculous it is, but girls still are quite contemptuous towards me. I suppose that's why prostitution is a thing
>>16601016
I'm 5'7" too.
I've never really had problems attracting women.
That's not what's sabotaging you.
>>16601054
You are failing to answer the critical point about how they comeback after you refuse to be a beta orbiter.
theres the underlying assumption that if she wanted to date, you wouldnt be put in the friendzone. Or at least if she didnt want to date, she wouldnt comeback after you refuse to be a beta orbiter wanting to date.
Youre failing to see the point Im asking about.
>>16601065
Lucky man. Some girl friends of mine have said that they can see that I am good looking but just aren't attracted to me. Any ideas? It's starting to get to me
>>16599911
Now is actually the most dangerous phase for you.
Girls often forgive neediness early in the relationship if they like you, but if a guy continues to be needy then that's a red flag to a lot of women.
Remember, women despise weakness of any kind, and neediness is the worst kind of weakness.
>>16601069
I see your point
The point is you think women want everything served on a plate by you and will stop at nothing to controll you
But that is simply not the truth...
Yes they do like most things done for them but that is a genetics thing
If you cant take care of some of her needs you wont take care if the baby. Even tho she is not thinking of having babys with you or dont even like kids her genes will say othervise
I hope this brings you peace and i hope you learn that not all females are controlling dumbfucjs some are normal
>>16601090
>will stop at nothing to controll you
Youd be surprised. One of the girls kept trying to get me to go on double dates with her friend and the guy she liked. I didnt like the idea of being somewhere she could "keep an eye on" and started backing off the friendship we had. Then when she heard I liked a different girl she came on to me.
Honestly your post makes me question why women dont want beta orbiters more.
To the females
can you sense if a guy is a virgin or not?
and at what age do you think that it would be too weird?
>>16601114
The way women used to try to find out if I was a virgin or not was by trying to make me fluttered sexually.
If they mention penis size, sex, rub their breast against you, see you avert your gaze from their mammaries they know. Basically try and see what gets you to spill spaghetti. Honestly there was a huge difference in how I responded after losing it. Before I would shy away if a girl "accidentally" ended up rubbing her breast against me. Now its pretty much if you dont mind I dont mind mentality.
Girls/guys i feel like i can get gf but i wont know what to do if i had one? Sex,company, is there anymore to it. am a social retard or i just haven't found the right one.
>>16601137
Overthinking
When you have a gf and enjoy your relationship what is fun and good comes naturraly because both of you will want and do the sam things
Relax let it come naturally
Is 5'11 too short? This girl I'm interested in is 5'9 and she says I'm short. What gives, since when did 5'11 become short?
>>16601137
What would you want a partner for. Really shes supposed to "complete" you. So things like emotions and feelings shes supposed to dig deep from you. Your role is more of the rational protector type thing. Girls love feeling safe. Surprising studies show that its because guys are taller than most women that they seek protection from other guys. Kinda like how a lost kid is terrified when hes surrounded by giants but you never get scared in a sea of infants.
Youre also her emotional sponge. women are bitchy and she knows that. Guys are far less judgmental at least when it comes to the things she cares about.
>>16601176
>not 6 foot
RIP. Also has she mentioned she likes taller guys. She could be trying to let you down.
Jokingly mention how the average height for 5'9 (its actually 5'10) and that shes probably going to marry some guy her height and see how she responds. She'll probably say shes into tall guys. Prepare your heart.
>>16601176
Cherry pickers anon
Fairy tales and other movie crap they think is important
One day if the dont get lucky and find a guy by accident they die with cats
>>16600825
It's up to you. Does it make you uncomfortable? Have you known each other awhile and just finally got together? Have you only known her two weeks and been on two dates?
>>16600872
We don't like putting anyone in the friendzone. Quite frankly it sucks balls when people we care about develop feelings for us and we can't return them. We feel guilty and like shitty friends. There's never a good way to handle it. And god you never know how they are going to react to rejection. Some are pretty understanding. Some get upset and use guilt trips. Some just start putting you down and insulting you. You have to know its never easy for either sex to have to reject someone they consider a friend. I mean we lose a friend and get treated like the bad guy. Like we did something awful to them and in the end you have to lose the friend and take the blame.
>>16601176
Just move on senpai
literally millions of women out there
p.s i'm 5'9" and i've never had to seriously try to get a girl.
>>16601204
In my experience, women dont just reject guys. They try to keep them as pets. Like doing stuff that a person wouldnt really do for someone they werent dating or going to be dating. And then find the guys who dont fall into that role more appealing.
For the m'ladies: Do you feel bad for rejecting a guy? Or do you just laugh it off?
>>16601217
Unless you're talking from personal experience I wouldn't assume it's all the girls fault if a guy sticks around doing stuff for her. Guys can be persistent and insulted if you don't let them do things for you. I can personally say I have never done that but I have had quite a few friends say they have feelings for me that I couldn't return. I feel bad every time and I definitely don't use that to take advantage of them.
>>16601220
I feel bad every time. Until they yell 'fine bitch you ugly anyways' and then all my guilt disappears. That happens a lot btw. P
I want to ask this girl out when she's at work. I don't have an opportunity to ask elsewhere. I've been in the store before and she's helped me pick something out, laughed at my jokes, but seemed really stoic and focused on her work. I know employees have some obligation to be polite and I might be mixing signals up, but do you think I should go for it?
>>16601226
I never understood why guys make a big deal out of rejection, OR why girls make a big deal about being approached.
I can take a "no", I wouldn't make a scene. There's some emotional investment if I asked you out, but the moment you show disinterest, that investment is gone and you become more or less a stranger. Like instantly.
I wouldn't even make a scene if the girl made a stink out of me asking her out. I've been rejected politely and rejected impolitely, I much prefer the first but in either case my reaction is indifference.
>>16601227
>laughed at my jokes
>I know employees have some obligation to be polite
>seemed really stoic and focused on her work
You answered your own question
>>16601225
Personal experience and watching others. But as I said in my original post, its only after they see that I won't be a beta orbiter that they change their mind.
really some of the way I see girls treating guys is disgusting. Asking guys for things that just a "friend" would never do. Really its trying to maintain that relationship before he rejected you but the relationship was only like that because he wasnt rejected.
Girls : i really like motorcycles, im really passionate about them, i teached my ex how to ride and i gave her my passion ...
What do you think about motorcycles ? Would you be willing to learn to drive or only seat behind me ?
Do you hate them, maybe ? Would you want me (if we were bf/gf ofc) to stop riding because you think it's dangerous even if you see that im really a careful rider ?
Curious about this :)
>>16601220
I feel bad. If it's at a club/Society then I'd like to keep talking to establish a friendship. I like listening to people.
If its a random encounter I feel really fucking guilty because usually I don't have enough pain killers to dance/do anything.
For Guys.
I have a "pigeon chest". I'm barely out of training bras at 20+ and have this stupid bone sticking out that goes from above my stomach to above my tits. I'm flat, and can't wear bras because the bone makes them slide up. It's not big or extreme because me left tit hides it.
How unattractive is this? I've had boyfriends and they always end up asking me what it is. Only one said I should have surgery.
>>16601254
What about the way some guys treat girls? I mean you're acting like we are the only bad guys out there. Yes there are shitty girls. But there are just as many shitty dudes. All you can do is not put up with being treated poorly and not treat other people that way.
>>16600162
this desu senpai
are you sexy in general. A few weird aspects dont hurt. You just dont get those points. So while guys wont say you are ugly, theyre not going to like it. If you have no other points of attractiveness though youre fuck.
Basically its not a deal breaker. As long as you have other features. Being flat kinda sucks. You might want to look into surgery though desu. Being flat and having that might be too much for some guys. like I assume theres nothing to rub and theres that weird bone. Not gonna lie, I didnt know what pigeon chest was so if you could post a pic or find one on google thats equivalent to your case it would help because the ones on google might be way more extreme and screwing my opinion that what you have.
>>16600561
Don't listen to the moralfags. If they'll cheat with you then it was only a matter of time before they cheated. If they won't, then fuck 'em.
Some of the best sex you'll ever have is cheating sex. She's so desperate for your affection, and you're exciting and new compared to her boring cuck.
>>16600563
No.
Never be honest with a woman. Honesty is boring, and most women will consider it "needy".
Being open with your feelings is a nice idea, but women don't realize how much they dislike it until a guy is "needy" with them. Then they go out and find another guy who's willing to lie about his feelings.
Be that man first, and she'll never leave.
>>16600833
>dat file name do
>>16601270
Its because guys pursue women in our society. So guys end up taking more shit for trying. For women Id be surprised if there wasnt some nice guy orbiter around you that you ignored and picked a shitty chad over. But Im not a woman and cant comment on how they deal with men. I just see how the shitty guys treat woman and they all usually ignore the other guy around them for the shitty one. But again Im a guy so my perspective is heavily screwed.
>>16601285
this is meant for>>16601268
>>16601176
Why the fuck is there always one of these guys in every goddamn thread? 5'11 is not short. Not even close to short. And you know what? I'm 5'5 and I've never been told I'm too short by women, so you can just calm down.
>>16601285
This is the closest I could find on Google. It don't have the lightning or good phone to show you myself.
I'd like to say I'm attractive. I'm 6'3, skinny but toned. I'm on my uni's sports team. I hope i don't sound egotistical.
I don't have too much trouble with pulling men in general.
But the breast thing I really want. I'll probably get surgery after Uni. I just want to run and feel them jiggle and sway)))
I do get. a few weirder guys when I used to cosplay when I was much younger. But anime loli chest ect.
Thank you)))
>>16601311
>Im 5'5
Its almost insult to point that out. Your height speaks for itself.
As long as you arent self deprecating little person though youll find a girl for you.
I want the best for my boyfriend. I am not the best. We are LDR for years. I'm just not good enough. Instead of leaving him in the dust after trying to break up, I want to make sure he has someone to love him good. How do I arrange that he finds a better girlfriend without actually being in his state? He doesn't use steam anymore because his computer broke. So finding girls via gaming isn't a viable option.
However, He's very loyal to me and has unbreakable self control and resolve. He would not even think of cheating on me. He does not want to break up or separate.
I strive to be the best I can be but I'm never good enough (I have high standards for myself). I always look to improve myself but I'm actually a failure in virtually everything I do. I'm worthless and good for nothing in many reasons. Just not good enough..
So yeah how do I find someone better for him?
>>16601315
I've honestly never really noticed or cared about my height. It wasn't until my junior year that it even occurred to me, cuz I stop growing sophomore year and Junior year was when all my friends started giving me shit about it.
tbqh I never really feel short when I'm around people. It's just always bizarre when guys who literally just need shoes to be 6' are more insecure about their height than I am.
>>16601312
> I just want to run and feel them jiggle and sway
Ever girl Ive ever listened to has complained about this. You dont want this feeling according to them.
If you dont have problems getting guys then its okay because they want you and have other things to look for instead of just your breast.
>>16601329
Well it could be a weird case where youre just not in the race for height so you dont have to worry about it. Like an ugly person doesnt have beauty pageant drama. Good on you though for not being insecure. People definitely notice but girls will see that you dont care and it speaks way more than height.
Girls, what do you think about being with a guy who wants to do BDSM but they want to sub?
So I work in a small office and there's a girl I have a thing for. We get along well, and we've actually gone to a few concerts together. At the last one, we spent half the time outside the venue just talking, and when we parted she gave me a long hug and squeezed my arm. I took that as a sign that she might be interested. The next time I asked her out to something, she gave a flimsy excuse that I took as a sign of disinterest and gave her an out. Since then it's just been kind of normal between us, but I feel like I'm in an awkward neutral zone with her and am not sure what to do.
For girls: is she giving me a stop sign? Am I reading too much into things? Should I drop pretense and ask her on a real date or just leave it alone?
Basically, I have no self confidence in talking to girls. Can I make up this disadvantage by having lots of money, looking good and being able to show off my results in the gym?
Like, I am obsessed with self improvement to the point where I focus on it to get away from the reality that I am terrible at talking and getting to know people. I figure, if I keep at it enough, I'll be able to find someone with mutual interest and attraction, someone who will make the first step of talking to me at least.
And no, no luck yet. Am I foolish to hold out for this? Girls, would you ever approach someone who is handsome and seems to have wealth, but may come off as shy?
>>16601349
stop acting like you like her. Stop doing things that you wouldnt do for a guy friend. Really stop spending as much time with her. treat her like the other co workers. If youre reading to much into it then she wont even notice and you can properly let her go.
>>16601351
Just learn to talk to women. Much easier. Also easiest way to find a new zone is to do something way out side of your comfort zone somewhere you cant be remembered for.
Try picking up a chick in a grocery store one day. Youre going to fail. Its going to be awkward. She'll think youre a creep and runaway. But if you could do that then surely you can hand a qt cashier money while looking her in the eye.
>>16601381
This is good specific advice and general advice. Women are just meatbags. Stop thinking that they're special.
>>16601391
>Women are just meatbags
I wouldnt go that far. Just that women dont know what they want or what theyre missing out on. But if you give them the chance to feed off your attention theyll take it no matter what.
My gf is moving in with me. I was helping her to pack things and I found this gift from a guy she dated when she was an exchange student. The gift is a flag of his country and he wrote a message on it. She kept it all these years. Should I be upset about it?
>>16601114
Virgins are usually the type who still make middle school sex jokes. It's also obvious when all their sexual knowledge comes from Family Guy or South Park or some shit.
It's not like you can look at a guy and say "Yep, virgin." It's small cues from how the act and what they say. Bags of sand comments, I guess.
No age is weird, in my opinion, to still be a virgin, especially if its due to religion. It's not a bad thing unless you're a fuckwit who constantly whines about >tfw no gf
>>16601455
whats the message anon. I have gifts from my ex's though. If anything it lets you know shes not a huge bitch and is capable of loving someone. You cant just ask her to throw away happy memories.
If the message is some bullshit about how theyre in love though it has to go. At least in storage or the attic or something.
>>16601466
>Bags of sand comments
But thats how they feel lol. At least to guys. Maybe my hands are just extremely rough.
The worst part is scratching my ass and then recognizing the feeling is that of a girls ass. Ive gained 20lb while bulking. Its really time to cut.
>>16601472
I don't think they really contact each other anymore
>>16601476
....no. Maybe if they're very heavy or saggy. I have a DFC and they don't feel like bags of sand in the slightest. My ex-girlfriend's breasts were larger and didn't feel that way either.
>>16601476
>Bags of sand
No lol my boobs are soft and squishy. They aren't even big. I'd say more like... Well I don't know. Water balloons lol? But with like pudding or something.
>>16601476
>But thats how they feel lol. At least to guys.
I think your ex needs to go to the doctor if they actually feel that way.
>>16601480
Always felt like bags of sand to me. The skin texture of course is different.
>>16601489
I guarantee you your breast feel nothing like water balloons. Breast are elastic so bags of sand isnt the perfect analogy. But it works.
They feel amazing though so dont think too much on it.
>>16601511
I am literally sitting here feeling my boobs. They are closer to balloons with pudding then bags of sand.
>>16601515
In all fairness though I've never felt another girls boobs so maybe mine are just softer than normal?
>>16601515
wow lewd
>>16601381
What's the purpose of that though? I do like her.
>>16601532
Because you cant have her while acting like you like her. Women will feed off attention but its only going to hurt you. Dont be one of her orbiters.
How common is it for a woman to not want children?
>>16601556
unnatural
>>16601556
It's a lot more common now a days. But still a minority.
>>16599954
As a counter point, here's my wishlist for what I want in a girl
>Cute face
>Decent shape (anything that isnt overweight is absolutely fine)
>Decent boobs (I know its shallow, I just really like a decent pair of boobs to fondle. Cant get on with itty bitty titties)
>Likes tattoos
>Likes SOMETHING nerdy (Doesnt have to be everything, as long as she likes at least one of either pokemon, marvel/dc, star wars, we cool)
>Good listener because I talk a lot, someone else that talks a lot probably wouldnt work
Thats it desu
>>16601603
I'm a good listener when I feel at ease. You?
>>16601603
>pokemon
>marvel
>likes tattoos
Fucking faux nerd girl enabler
End yourself
>>16601603
Are you the guy from earlier that said women are too vague in what they want in a perfect guy so I made an insane list?
Your list is completely vague!
>>16601603
>as long as she likes at least one of either pokemon, marvel/dc, star wars
>>16599649
Anyone have questions for the same sex? Experienced gay guy here maybe someone here has questions?
>>16601611
Are the rape caves real
>>16601611
What's the appeal of docking?
Do you pretend they're spaceships docking in space or something? If so do you make the space ship sounds too?
>>16601515
What cup are yours?
>>16601616
I'm cut so I don't know.
>>16601220
Yep I feel bad every time
>>16601263
I don't think I'm compatible with someone who is into motorcycles
>>16601339
I'm willing to switch, but I want to be the sub most of the time so I don't think it would work
Girls and guys
If you don't fap for 3-4 days, isn't that suppose to increase your sex drive? Because if so, it's not working for me. I haven't fapped in 4 days. And I haven't had a boner since. I haven't had any sexual urges or anything. Is this normal?
>>16601753
i tend to find that my sex drive drops off if i'm occupied doing something i'm passionate about
aka i'm only uncontrollably horny if i'm bored
so I don't know if it's that big of a deal or not, do you have some girl you need to please?
How do I flirt without coming off as creepy?
>>16601787
rub her thigh. tickle her stomach right under her boob. When you hug her and release run your arm down her back and squeeze her ass a bit but nonchalantly
>>16601798
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I need to do to come off as a creep. Thanks senpai :^)
>>16601764
No in a single guy. But I'm on vacation in Italy. And there is hot girls everywhere. But I'm just not aroused at all
>>16601660
May i ask you why ? Bad experience with motorcycles ?
>>16601878
Nah, they are just loud, fast, dangerous. I'm a pretty quiet, calm, timid person who wouldn't be compatible with that kind of stuff. And I have absolutely no interest or knowledge about vehicles in the first place.
>>16601887
Well i think you should try first, it's a good way to have sensation, and honestly it have nothing to so with your character, you can be shy and quiet and still enjoy a ride..
But ok, i understand your opinion ;)
A question for both men and women: When/How is it absolutely positively the best way to have your first time/lose your V-Card?
>>16601921
For me personally, it would be after years with my also virgin partner. We would be each other's first love, first kiss, first everything before this. We would be sure we would spend the rest of our lives together. I would have birth control like an implant, so we wouldn't have to worry about anything and he could cum deep inside of me. Maybe on a camping trip in the woods so we would be the only people around for miles. Just me and him in nature, consummating our love in the most primal and beautiful way possible.
>>16601921
I lost mine to some girl I honestly didn't give a shit about. And I regret it. Pussy isn't pussy. I don't care who says that shit. But it's not. I regret fucking that girl.
>>16601921
depends on who you are personally. some would say have your first with someone you love, some would say just get it done and over with
So I got a girl's number off tinder, and we hit it off really well. We've talked a bit and we're very similar people.
Eventually after about 2 days of conversation she was the last one to respond to my text so I didn't bother to text her again until the next day, so I don't seem like I'm begging for attention or something. We began to talk again after I shot her another text proceeding the last one she did not respond to, bringing up a totally different topic, and the conversation continued for about another day when again she was the last one to respond. Since then I haven't ever bothered to text her again, and she has yet to be the one to text me first.
What is this? Did she lose interest in me or is this normal? Am I doing this right, in deliberately choosing to not text her two times in a row consecutively in order to not seem desperate?
For women:
>Be me back in high school
>Girl asks to copy my homework before homeroom starts
>Ok, why not
>She decides to copy it on my desk, leaning forward
>She's wearing an over-sized t-shirt, so I can see very clearly down her shirt and see her bra as she's leaning forward to copy the hw
>She didn't look up at me to see if I was staring and didn't fix her shirt the entire time, just continued to copy my hw
Do women do stuff like this on purpose? Or are some women that clueless?
>>16602066
Both probably
How do I get good at massages?
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>>16601941
>mfw I want something similar like this
Any girls used a we vibe before? Opinions?
Question for girls
When you please your man, and i mean with anything else but your vagina or anus, do you alvays do it with love and affection?
Thinking about how she feels in love and connected when she pleases me makes me even more in love with her
I know i feel that way when pleasing her
And i dont mean just like sexual things i mean also things like massages footrubs etc not only penis massages bjs handies etc
>>16602213
Oh my god you've asked this four times, man.
Some girls love sucking cock. Some do it reluctantly. Some refuse to ever give a bj. Some will suck off any random guy. Some will suck off only guys they like.
I like giving blowjobs. It turns me on. I give them to guys who I trust and are close enough to be sexual with.
Some girls give massages to anyone, some girls worry about the sexual connotations and the closeness and keep it to romantic/sexual partners.
We can't tell you if your ex have you massages and blowjobs out of love or not. I know you're messed up by the breakup but we are not your blog.
Can anyone personally reccomend one of those sex toys you can control with a phone app for long distance relationships?
>>16602213
Absolutely
>>16601114
I felt like I could, but I was so wrong. (I have a shy, depressive boyfriend, and I always felt like he was a virgin and didnt had many friends... we have been together for 2 years and yesterday he told me that he wasnt virgin and that he had /stories/ (also did drugs and party), it turns out he's more social than me, and kinda makes me feel like shit, because I felt I finally found someone just as virgin and boring as me.)
maybe 50 years old would be kinda odd
When is it an appropriate time to talk about your sexuality to the person you're dating?
>>16601857
I consider porn addiction to mainly be a joke, but in your case it might be very relevant.
>>16602256
I remember one called Zeus/Hera. I never tried it out, but it seemed moderately interesting at least.
>>16602422
Not when, but if it comes up. Assuming it's not likely to be a problem. If there's a good chance you might swing the other way and leave at any moment, I'd appreciate a little heads up.
>>16602422
If I start seeing a guy and he was anything but straight id want to know before we even went out. I don't want to date bisexual guys. Thinking about the guy I'm with being fucked by another guy is a deal breaker. Sorry...
>>16602541
>being fucked by another guy
What if he was on top?
