Welcome to the NEET and Shut-in advice thread!
(Version 119.5, running since Oct. 31st, 2013)
Drop out of school due to anxiety? Haven't left the house in a few years? Maybe you have a job, but don't leave the house or talk to people for any reason outside of it? Finding a job sure is hard these days.
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>>16517569
>Post two good things and two bad things about you so we can understand who posts here better
Pros
Been told I'm nice/hard to hate :^)
Body is in great health for the most part.
Cons
Terrible with commitment
Anxious af/mental health isn't that great
>>16520023
Whoops >>16517579 sorry
God bless self checkout.
>>16520063
You still have to talk to people when getting dvds and shit.
>>16519807
Bye bye Molly edittion
So how is everyone coping with being a loser today?
>>16521493
Posting here, listening to Mozart. Started reading a new book. You?
>>16520159
>neets
>buying physical media
Lmao
>>16521775
I wasted my day jacking off.
I listen to classical music too. schubert is my favorite of all time cause he was a loser too, but so good at it that he wrote beautiful music.
>>16521493
I had a lunch with mom at a nice restaurant then I lurked a bit and went to therapy, came back another hour of lurking and grabbed a panini for dinner now it's already 9 pm. Tuesdays are never productive for me, still have to figure out what to do tomorrow
>>16521493
Inspite of my illness everyday i:
>Get up
>Maintain my immediate existence
>Improve my immediate surroundings
>Care for a lifeform other than myself
>Restrain myself from making destructive decisions towards myself or others
im sure that society would classify me as a looser yet i know that as a human being i am successful.
I wish I would've met you
Now it's a little late
What you could've taught me
I could've saved some face
They think that your early ending
Was all wrong
For the most part, they're right
But look how they all got strong
That's why I say
Hey man nice blog
What a good blog man
Thats why I say
Hey man nice blog
What a good blog man
A man has a pussy
Hey man, have fun
Nice blog
Now that the poo is gone
And the air is all clear
Those who were right there
Got a new kind of fear
You'd cry and you were right
But they were just too strong
They'd stick it in your face
And let you smell
What they consider wrong
That's why I say
Hey man nice blog
What a good blog man
>>16522038
I have to take a break from beating it. I got HuniePop over the last steam sale and ended up beating myself raw over a couple days.
tfw no job to get a gf
>>16522882
So you clean your room and feed your cat?
I've had a girl sleep over in the forst date and it was all good, she really seems to like me, she also invited ne over at her best friends place to smoke some J's, then meet up with two guy students and smoke some more there. I'm feeling anxiety, is this normal?
I really like her and i can be chill with her, but the others i don't know.
>>16522989
Jesus Christ, just say you wasted your time jerking off.
Don't know what huniepop but it sounds like some twisted japanese hentai game.
Do you go outside and wonder the hell you were jerking off to? It's only outside (and after I busted a nut) I realize how weird, how fucked up and how stupid the things I jerk off to. And that people who make this stuff are insane and/or lack self-awareness.
>>16523048
Sounds like you're just insecure about your sexual preferences. Huniepop is a match 3 with a few nude pics. Big deal.
Hello
I don't feel so good today, doyou feel the same?
Called to see a psych this week, going to be unemployed and a NEET starting next year. What am I in for?
Don't know if this applicable to your threads, but here's my situation
>29 living at home
>full time 9--5 office job
>parents dgaf at all, I don't pay rent, just internet
>have top floor to myself with lots of room for all my shit
I really do want my own place, preferably with no roommate, but that'll be about $900 (most of one paycheck) per month (util incl at the place I'm looking at)
How much is privacy and the pride(??) in being in your own place worth in $$ to you? Any easy arguments for/against moving out in this situation?
>>16523022
it's a little more macro then that but you have the general idea, also i hate fucking cats.
>>16523283
You need to look up what NEET stands for
>>16523291
Are you a shut-in? It shouldn't matter if you don't have a social life. If not, you sound like a normie who thinks NEET is some cute anime term
>>16523630
>shut-in?
p much. I know being employed means this isn't NEET, I just thought I'd ask here because it feels a bit related.
I've had a dog for 5 months now and because I almost never leave the house, he never does either. I feel like he's happy. I mean, he's really attached to me, I treat him properly, play with him and all. Is there really a mandatory need for him to frequently go outside? It's such a hard thing to do, because I just don't want to do it, but if it's that detrimental to the dog... any other NEET with a dog?
>>16523726
Probably ask /an/ but he'd probably love it. However he'd also probably start begging you to take him regularly also.
But yeah ask over there, maybe there's an important reason you should / shouldn't.
>>16523106
>insecure
Man, I only jerk off to /d/-level stuff these days, regular porn doesn't get me off anymore. I need porno to do it, and can't use my imagination most of the time.
Porn addiction and being a KV leads to more and more novel porn.
>>16523726
Where is he peeing and pooping then if you're not taking him out?
so how the fuck can i get to know new people ?
at this rate i'm going to die alone
>>16523140
Well, it's the next day now. But yeah I don't feel great either. Holiday season depresses me, I think about family too much. I thought I was okay enough this morning, but I took a shower and had nothing to distract me from my thoughts. On the upside, sobbing in a warm shower keeps my nose from getting as stuffy.
>>16523726
you shouldnt have a dog if you cant even take him outside. you fail as his caretaker and best friend.
its a biological NEED for them to roam around their territory. they can't maintain a healthy mind if they dont. also they need to socialize with other dogs or again, fucked up mind. like yours. fucktard.
>>16523726
if you can't even take your dog for a walk so he can go to the bathroom you've got some serious issues. also, someone here was taking their cat out for a walk a few threads ago, just sayin'
nice blog
>>16524564
You either have friends who can connect you with new people or you consider finding a job.
So I have a shit job that is shit because I only get 25hrs a week at $7.40 pay. I stay because I know the work and like the people/bosses, but I really need more hours or pay because I keep struggling to pay the bills. Getting more money or hours is not an option.
I feel stuck because I dont want another 25hr a week job because then I will work t0hrs a week for a fucking $1200 paycheck which would mean far less sleep for only a bit more reward.
Anyways, $200 would go towards food and $250 to school loans so I would still just barely be getting by. Right now I get $200 in food stamps monthly because I only make $650 a month.
I dropped out last spring from college due to depression and they want me to pay back a $2000 loan right away, but I havent any money to pay for loans. I dont really know what to do.
I just want to be left alone but I cant even muster up the energy to sell art online or write as an income or some shit.
>>16523726
Is this bait? What kind of dog? Where does it shit if you or it don't leave the house? Sounds like abuse to me.
>>16524564
I lurk the hell out of 4chan. I can usually net one new contact for every 20 hours of shitposting, and they usually last 1-5 days, so it's almost like I'm not alone.
>>16524847
Just work two jobs for a year. You'll get your loan paid off, and save a little cash to help cover your next incident. People really only need 2-6 hours of sleep to survive. I've been able to work upwards of 90 hours a week, sleep 6 hours a night, and still find time to shitpost. I believe in you, anon.
>>16524890
I have a 40k school loan from 6 years of college and sleep is the one happiness I have in life and reprieve from humanity. 2-6hrs a night??
Might as well just off myself right now.
Job centre is forcing me to do community work for 30 hours a week, I don't even get paid...
It's driving me mad with stress, I can't handle more working for free and being lied to. What shall I do?
>>16524970
Nut up. You made a commitment to a loan. Working long hours only gets harder as you get older, and interest can either be your friend or your enemy, and right now you're making it your enemy.
>>16524890
>People really only need 2-6 hours of sleep to survive.
It's 6-8, 6 being the bare minimum, and the ideal maximum has been disputed to be even longer than 8.
>>16524994
Are you getting unemployment in return?
>>16525013
I get unemployment money yes but they give me that anyway, how can they force me to work 30 hours a week for £2.00 an hour... Especially since I was getting it anyway.
>>16524999
Committment or not, a lot of those loan companies use predatory practices.
If you're going to commit, commit fully, because if you don't pay, you'll ruin you're credit rating. You can wait out the statue of limitations on collection, but it's a long time and varies from state to state.
>>16525013
I said survive, not ideally. Using a polyphasic sleep cycle you can sleep less than 2 hours a day your entire life and be bored out of your mind.
>>16523737
Yeah I made a thread there, thanks.
>>16524562
Courtyard.
>>16524666
Couldn't you argue that it's a biological NEED for humans to go out too, socialize with other humans and such, and yet it really isn't needed? Also what's up with this hostility, are you even a NEET?
>>16524748
He goes to the bathroom, of course. I just mean not to the street, to the outside world. The courtyard is small.
>>16524850
It's a mutt. Defecates in the courtyard.
I find it fascinating how everyone becomes so worried, and even claims abuse, yet after finishing writing the post probably went to eat an abused chicken, and drank a product with milk from a raped and tortured cow. But dogs and cats are sacred, can't fuck with them, right?
I'm a shut-in NEET who dropped out of school due to anxiety, and before last year I went years without going outside. Now I'm not too afraid to go out so I've come a long way. I've also gotten over depression and addictions to porn and video games. My next move is to go back to school but I still have CRIPPLING anxiety. I've been studying for GED exams but I'm deathly afraid to take the test. I'm also deathly afraid of just being back in school environment, surrounded by people. I haven't socialized in years.
I'll need an anxiolytic to get out of this rut. My anxiety is out of control. If I can't calm myself during the test, I'll never be able to focus. But even if I managed to pass, I'd never be able to focus in class, with the anxiety I'd be thinking about the classmates instead of the lesson.
This leaves me 2 options.
1. try to get parents to help me see a psych
2. earn money online to buy a grey-market anxiolytic
My parents think any problems you can't see physically are imaginary in your head so it would be hard to get them to help me to see a psych and they would never treat me the same way again. But they probably would support me in the end. If I were to go to a psych how would the process be? Would I have to tell them that I dropped out of school and have been living as a shut-in since? I don't want to have to explain my life story to them and I don't want to have to go through therapy sessions or any of that. I just want the anxiolytic so I can get on with my life. Could I just tell them about my anxieties in general terms and they would prescribe it and let me go? Otherwise I'd rather just go with option 2 and save myself the hassle but earning money online is very slow.
I just don't see how I can move on with how bad my anxiety is. Even if I did pass the test, go to school, I'd be in so much more stress than I need to. It would be like how school was when I was younger. I would regret wasting the opportunities even if I did get good grades.
>>16525204
How are you going to earn money online?
>>16525224
Surveys, it's very slow but I don't know how else.
>>16525257
That actually works? I always thought it was nonsense, might have to look in to it.
>>16525141
youre its caretaker dickwad. take care of it.
and considering how fucked up you turned out i would very much say socialization is a necessity. just because youre a sad pathetic fuck don't punish the dog. they go insane if they're cooped up.
>>16525274
it works, especially the live focus groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invoke
I did one of those and got $30 for an hour of my time, but it took like 2 months for them to pay.
But mostly it's very slow, boring, menial clicking for ~50 cent payouts.
>>16525313
Alright thanks.
>>16525141
>I find it fascinating how everyone becomes so worried, and even claims abuse, yet after finishing writing the post probably went to eat an abused chicken, and drank a product with milk from a raped and tortured cow. But dogs and cats are sacred, can't fuck with them, right?
Now you're catching on.
>>16525141
I agree with you partly anon, some fags in this thread did jump on you a bit too hard, but never the less, dogs do need a bit of socialization and interactions outside of you to build a healthy psychology, im not saying you must take it out every day to the park like a pedo but everynow and then get it to go out of it's comfort zone.
>>16525332
I've been looking into that stuff too. Here was a link I saved http://pastebin.com/wKGxMspf
Some good survey/clicking sites.
>>16525204
>If I were to go to a psych how would the process be? Would I have to tell them that I dropped out of school and have been living as a shut-in since? I don't want to have to explain my life story to them and I don't want to have to go through therapy sessions or any of that.
They're going to have a hard time helping you if you don't tell them your story.
>>16524748
different person, but can confirm some cats like walks and it's pretty good for them.
i take mine out once a day and she loves it! no darting out of doors either since she knows she has outside time. recently i've started giving her socks/booties to protect her little paws (still adjusting, but we'll see how it goes).
>>16525141
forgive the anons, unintentional pet abuse is just such a rampant issue people can get worked up about it. please try to take your pup on walks though, it's something they need to let out extra energy and it stimulates them.
>>16525744
I used to do that, but my cats instinctively stay near cover, and end up with fur full of branches and brambles. Looking out the window as we go down the road will have to suffice if they're going to have a full coat of fur. It's nice not having to check them for ticks anymore as well.
>>16525490
How could they help me besides prescribing an anxiolytic?
My sister has been going to therapy for years and they've only messed with her head. She focuses too much on analyzing herself. Without therapy I've corrected my negative mindset and thought processes, beat depression, beat addictions, beat phobias. I've taken responsibility for my mistakes and have come to terms with my natural shortcomings while not hating myself for it. I've identified my natural strengths and am optimistic about working toward taking advantage of them.
The only thing left is my anxiety which is obviously physiological. The anxiety is CRIPPLING. I want to get on with my life without it being constantly at the forefront of my mind. As long as I'm uncertain about what will happen next, dread overwhelms me. Exposure therapy helps overcome a single instance of anxiety, but so long as my stress response is dysfunctional I'll never be able to feel at ease. It's like plugging holes in a sinking ship, I fix one hole and another opens up all the while the ship continues to sink. Paying to talk to a stranger about these problems isn't going to help. I force myself out of my comfort zone on my own, but an anxiolytic used in conjunction would make the process much easier. And for something like GED test anxiety, exposure therapy would be useless. I don't have the time and money to take it again and again and again, and they force you to wait 2 months between attempts if you fail it too many times.
>>16525865
have you tried using a harness/leash + treats to train them? just curious, i don't think being outside is nearly as important for cats vs dogs so it's fine either way.
>>16525479
Taking care of an animals basic needs makes you a pedophile now? What planet are you on? Going outside has benefits for any animal, especially humans.
>>16525912
Yeah. They still gravitated towards bushes and wanted to climb around in them. I only took them for walks in the woods because they'd get spooked by cars and people on the roadside.
cat walking advice thread version 1
>>16525019
Just get any job apart from cleaning. Just keep applying, especially retail, people change there so fast.
Though it's only just a little bit better than staying on the dole.
how is a dumb fucking neet supposed to get a job with zero work experience? how am I even supposed to explain the time between dropping out of college and I would apply? i don't even have anything I can put on a resume for fucks sake.
should I be looking at target or walmart or something?
>>16525886
You could try talking with a physician. They are usually straight to the point. It would be helpful to keep logs of all the times intrusive thoughts come up (yes I mean ALL of them) to show them the graveness of your condition. Then tell them the basics of your story and ask for a prescription.
>>16526854
fast food, big chain retail. say you were looking after a sick relative?
LoVe iS nO mOrE
EvEr WiLl ThErE bE
EVOL
>>16526876
Thank you, this sounds good. I never thought of recording the intrusive thoughts. Should I do it in a notebook and just record the time or also describe it? I heard getting your thoughts down physically can help. But I'd be afraid of someone finding the journal. I've gotten better at shaking off the intrusive thoughts as well whereas before I wouldn't even recognize them.
Also I'd be fine with telling the basics, I just don't want to go into details because it would be uncomfortable and I don't see the point. I don't want them to know more than they need to and think I'm crazier than I am and have me reframe things or pick at meaningless past events like they mattered. I don't want a stranger to change my view of my past or my family members. Knowing I'd have to recite my whole story would mean revising all those memories myself. It's unnecessary negativity and rumination. My past isn't even bad, just full of wasted opportunities and stagnation. But if I were to talk about it in person I'd choke up and nothing would come out right anyway.
Should I accept a job in a foundry?
Has any one of you experienced this before?
Its a 12hrs day it pays 600yurobucks, but I'm more than sure its one of those which would completely exhaust me.
I had shit jobs before and I really don't want that live and die on work lifestyle.
>>16527608
>I had shit jobs before and I really don't want that live and die on work lifestyle.
Well as a shut-in or NEET you're stuck between a hard place and a rock, I mean, being found dead in your flat, in a jerk off session, is probably a worse way to die.
>>16527623
>>16527608
Cont.
>€600
Seems pretty low for 12 hour days. How many days each week?
>>16527626
12hrs
3shifts
5day/week
kill me.
>>16527632
If I'm not making a mistake, you seem to earn €2.40 an hour.
I must've made a mistake.
I need to get a haircut but anxiety is getting the best of me. =(
>>16527134
What I would do with the notebook is record the time, and just right 2-3 words describing what it is about and maybe look at what you were doing before it happened.
I understand where you are coming from, but how can you say that your past isn't bad if you would choke up talking about it in person. You don't have to change your view of past events and family members. You probably should keep it short with a physician since they are sort of busy most of the time. It is also why they are straight to the point with what treatment options are available. They may ask for a followup in a couple months just to see how the medication is affecting you, but you could also talk to the nurses and see if you could have an over the phone followup. Hope this helps anon.
>>16527917
Why are you anxious about it?
Here are several reasons not to be anxious about it:
1. You are a paying customer who they will try their hardest to work with, assuming you aren't a jerk
2. Most people at a hair salon/barber shop just want to get in and get out paying no mind to you or anyone outside of their sphere of influence
3. There is usually some alright reading material there to entertain yourself with such as Time and other good quality publications, and some shitty ones.
Today is my birthday. So far I woke up at 4am, started my birthday drinking, and talked to my grandma about my abusive parents once she woke up. It's a topic that has come up enough, it's why I'm a NEET living with her. It just hurts more today I guess. She vehemently hates my parents, while being the type of person who will buy chocolate bars she doesn't really plan to eat if it's kids selling them or a charity thing.
Suppose I'm doing better than I think I should be. I'm not suicidal anymore, there are enough people I would care about hurting. It's just still hard to shake, how many times I thought I shouldn't be here, the times I could have died or killed myself but didn't follow through. I'm trying to work towards seeing a future. But I don't know how that works. I always had the mindset that I'd hopefully die or at least kill myself before I was an adult. But now that I am, and now that I'm not suicidal, it's hard to think of goals or things I care about. My motive was just surviving or maintaining. It takes so much more out in the real world and I don't know what to do.
>>16528003
>being suicidal in front of grandma.
I have been there ha-ha, happy birthday
>>16528377
Thanks! And yeah, it's fun. If I'm drunk enough sometimes I tell her I'd be indifferent about my parents dying. She doesn't seem to disagree.
>>16528003
I went through the same thing.
Set me back some years but today I work and have made decent friends at work.
You have to think of practical goals.... do things that are good for you, not exactly what you want.
And remember to be confident, you are stronger than you thought if you made it this far.
You are stronger than you know.
>>16528003
>I'm trying to work towards seeing a future. But I don't know how that works. I always had the mindset that I'd hopefully die or at least kill myself before I was an adult. But now that I am, and now that I'm not suicidal, it's hard to think of goals or things I care about. My motive was just surviving or maintaining. It takes so much more out in the real world and I don't know what to do.
I'm the same, I kept procrastinating on suicide too, and now that I'm not I'm in the same boat, unequipped for life's challenges.
>>16528514
This is pertinent advice.Keep reminding yourself it's all about making progress one day at a time.you'll never wake up where you want to be overnight.Believing that change is made overnight makes it look harder than it is.do things you won't regret when you look back on it, things that might not satisfy you today but you'll be glad you did to satisfy your future .
And hey, at least we went through this now rather than later . Learn from what you've been through so it doesn't happen again, and you'll be better suited to handle similar problems when you're older.Lots of people go through life without facing these issues until their mid life crisis, and then the damage is harder to recoverfrom.
>>16528514
How old are you? And yeah. self doubt is something I need to work on too. I know I'm stronger than I thought, as I was 100% sure I'd kill myself before 18. But I made it through that. I'm unsure what would be good for me to do though.
>>16528570
I can tell you learned similar things as me through the same mindset
I do feel prepared for anything in life now. I will accept being old or ugly or hard days.
Its hard work often, there are good and bad days but feeling like there is any crisis is gone and I can handle each day as they come. I have to remind myself sometimes, but seeing as all 3 of us lived past how long we thought we would, we know that its possible to see better days even if its the next one.
>>16528576
I'm 24 going to be 25 soon.
I was neet from 20-24.
I was suicididal since I was about 10 and when i turned 16 and I passed my written driver exam and this day was life changing because I suddenly didn't want to be suicidal and in following years learned i didnt want to take things for granted and wanted to practice self sacrifice.. I didn't think I'd ever drive.
>>16528576
Also you need to find activities.
You are probably thinking of any idea like say if i suggest 3d art, clay art etc.
Would you assume its not for you before trying it?
the difference you need to make is to try it and try to even master it before deciding its not for you.
You should try to verse yourself in everything you can. In the end you learn so much it all goes back to what it is you really wanted to do.
>>16527954
Thanks for your help. When you say physician you mean a general/primary? I don't have a family doctor. Should I still go to a physician instead of a specialist, ot would they refer me to one anyway since it would be my first time seeing them?
>how can you say that your past isn't bad if you would choke up talking about it in person.
Because it's not normal to have lived this way for so long that doesn't mean it's bad, but I still feel deeply ashamed for my family, and I have little experience talking with others so I'd choke up because it's so personal and I get very anxious talking about my problems in general, sometimes I start shaking typing them out here on 4chan.
>You don't have to change your view of past events and family members.
That's goid, I don't know how the process of seeing a psych for these issues works but your description of seeing a physician sounds good. My view is that people spend lots of money and time to talk to someone who has to pretend to care and applies "empirical" methods which can make things worse. I want to cut out the bulls hit and wasted money/time on therapy sessions and just get the anxiolytic medication proven to help so I can get on with my life and stop focusing on these issues.
>>16528598
Truth . Leave your ego behind and try things you think you won't like.pass up no opportunity.ive found there are many more opportunities than i knew existed because i felt they werent possible before.i told myself "impossible" to "protect" myself.its easier said than done leaving your comfort zone, but there's a lot to gain, it's low risk, high reward to just try new things.When you're depressed you have no interests but it's the interests and passions that keep you from being depresed, such is the vicious circle.
For example, I always thought dancing was my polar opposite, until one day a couple weeks ago I felt like trying it alone in my room.It felt amazing.I always told myself I didn't like it only cause I was scared of it,scared of doing it "wrong" and making a fool of myself.so i used excuses like its unmanly & gay.I haven't tried since because I haven't felt like it.i would certainly still be too scared to do it in front of others but I should definitely practice more.
>>16528586
What happened between 16 and 20 ? I need to learn to drive too but as a long time neet I feel like there's a lot more going on than I'm used to processing.Any driving advice for neets ?
>>16528579
Exactly . In a strange way it's a source of hope and courage.
>>16528586
25 is what I just reached. So Happy Soon Birthday to you too. Yeah driving is something I'm worried about too. I don't know how well I'd focus on that many things at once.
>>16528598
(Same person since you said also? Or not?)
What kind of activities? Where do I go to find them? I do know at least making things would be interesting to me. I liked making things with beads, making Creepy Crawler stuff, putting k'nex/legos/megablocks things together. I guess that reminds me glass blowing sounded interesting too. Maybe I should try to find out something about that. I think something like that would make me feel good.
I SAID HEY MAN NICE BLOG
WHAT A COOL BLOG MAN
>>16528854
Thank you.
>>16528862
Ok I will blog too
I've been playing Heroes of the Storm waiting for a fucking Overwatch Beta invite and I actually really like playing Tassadar
>>16528854
so people come here to converse, give advice, share experiences and ideas, you come here to blog about blogging, this behavior could explain why your parents do not love you.
between 16 and 24 i basically didnt do shit except i got a 2 year degree in liberal arts.
I would suggest finding work cause thats what I'm doing now to move me towards finishing education and surviving by myself.
>>16528828
basically pick an activity and pursue it.
For me I broke myself out of neet cycle with private music lessons and while doing that I was applying for jobs a lot.
like i said before self sacrifice, do what you have to do. its not really fun but if you can be proud of yourself and put a twist on any experience by being you then its worth it.
>>16528828
Happy quaternary
>>16528959
Thanks :D
So many gambling adverts on TV these days. Seems to be even more during the night.
>parody onaholes
Who the fuck comes up with these ads that have an extra layer of creepiness?
How do you hide the J-list ads on a phone?
>>16529241
U mean those fantasy sports?
I'm a sports numbers expert and I would never touch those scams.
>>16529504
No, the two J-list banners above and below 4chan pages. I don't know how to block them on a mobile.
>>16529522
Me neither I just ignore them sometimes I touch them by accident though and immediately nope the duck back
>>16529532
They make me glad that I have some level of shame.
>>16529414
install an adblocker you stupid fuck. OR, you could leave them on and actually support this website, even though you can't support anything else
>>16519807
First time posting here.
I am currently not a NEET, but I am pretty sure that it's just a matter of time before I get there. Why? Because I am the epitome of laziness. I need a bare minimum of 10 hours of sleep per day and I spend 95% of the remaining time lying in bed, on the internet.
Right now I'm in uni, so I can get away with this behavior to some extend, but if I ever graduate I will NEVER be able to hold down a job.
What do?
>>16530014
sleep faster. caffeine if you have to
>>16530166
Doesn't work. I just drank 3 red bulls and I'm still tired.
Tfw constipated plus hemorroids
Each time I go to the bathroom, wich is every 15 minutes I get to feel pain followed by ten minutes of itchiness. At least now I know I don't have ass cancer
Get a job you lazy cunts
>>16530829
Easier said than done you fuck
>>16530829
Is this bait?
cuz I'm fucking triggered.
>>16523726
You are a selfish cunt.
Mom said I'll need to go to beauty school or something soon because I have to start doing something. I'd rather kill myself than go to beauty school...or any kind of school at all. Or work. I mean, I don't want to kill myself, but I'd rather die than do these things. I'm starting to count time until push comes to shove and she gets tired of me and either kicks me out or forces me to do something. Kinda sad about it but I don't have the energy to try to change myself from being sad, anxious and lazy. Thanks for reading my shitty blog post.
>>16530877
What do you do to pass the time instead of trying to find a job or go back to school?
>>16530877
Why not truck driving school?
where can i find girls to play pc games with
in multiplayers i've made a few friends when adding randomly,but I was wondering if there's a place better suited for that
yeah im thirsty but the point is to meet other thirsty vidya gurls
I promised myself I wouldn't make a farewell post but it looks like I'm going to break my promise.
I came to this community two years ago as a broken person and I'm leaving it far worse than I came.
I don't have anything else to say.
Goodbye.
>>16531339
Good luck, have fun and stop boohooing
>>16531339
No ten I can't let you go
Without showing you my latest pokemon that is.
Tfw burned myself out by modeling 8 hours a day for ten days.
But seriously good luck, no hard feelings
>>16531452
Well I proclaim myself the new neet king now that there is no opposition left
#1 get-out-of-NEETdom-advice:
Become an early riser
Go to bed at 22-23 pm, and wake up at 5-6 am.
I had this big realization that all my big realizations fail in three days. So they're not really big at all. So they don't need to be big to work just for a bit.
So I can just mass-produce them and latch onto anything vaguely life-changing-sounding every three days. One more month three days at a time and work will be a habit again.
>>16531452
that looks stupid as fuck
like a snake exploded eating shit out of a horses ass
>>16531546
As a king I'm immune to presents critics but keep trying tho, I didn't design it I just modeled it.
No offense but insults like this aren't going to hurt knowing where they are coming from
>>16531517
> latching to the next thing hoping it will fix you
Oh boy do I know this feel
I'm feeling festive. How can a neet like me enjoy Christmas time? I have got Netflix and a little bit of cash
>>16531600
I know lets all go to the mall to look at the big tree, get a little drunk and watch some shitty Christmas movie with some popcorn and make fun of normies spending too much money on overpriced clothes. Sounds fun right? It will help with your seasonal depression
>>16531632
Or we can stay and get drunk here. Bake some Christmas snack and watch some shitty movies on Netflix, listen to some Christmas song and take times playing some videogames
Guys I have a job interview tomorrow at the Cinema and going to college again in February. Did I do good?
>>16531645
yep, you did good, what are you studying and more importantly can you get me free popcortn?
>>16531672
International wholesale. I don't know yet about free popcorn
>>16531645
Don't blow it
so i found a way to feel more christmasy, currently listening to the soundtrack on youtube
this will be a quick one
>>16531339
>>16531339
On the bright side, I think I'm a little better two years later.
See you, space cowboy.
soooooooo christmasy ;) im excited
>>16529504
No, those online bingo, poker and roulette ads, that seem to increase during the night. The ads are always pointlessly flashy/dramatic with tiny small print saying 'Always gamble responsibly'.
I wonder who their target audience is in the dead of the night?
>>16531840
>>16531880
>>16531948
>>16532321
Jesus Christ, stop forcing your suckage on us. We have bad enough as it is.
>>16532467
Full disclosure I lost the little cable to put things in my cellphone so the only way of getting this pictures in there is for me to post them and download them and its not pokemon so I don't want to post it at vp
>>16532477
You can email them to yourself.
>>16532506
Don't feel like it, nobody gives a shit about this board beyond baning ilegal content anywyas so its low risk. Plus I'm a neet and I do listen to advice so its my right to do so
>>16532513
Also I'm trying to take as few screencap as possible and I keep the thread alive, something you have problems doing so its a win win
>>16532321
I think its cool.
More practical than most of my skills. I would always love to see people succeed in their passions.
>>16531339
I'm not sure what's been happening; but good luck with whatever it is you'll end up doing.
>>16532477
get a dropbox retard
>>16532820
I think he knows how, he's making up a bullshit excuse. Only God knows why he feels the need to justify himself in front of random losers.
>>16532820
how about you suck my dick instead?
>>16532853
well maybe modeling for 8 hours a day is my way to cope with being a neet, maybe i would love for any of you to show any kind of iniciative and i dont know any other way than showing what i do or maybe i just concider this place mi personal pissing ground who knows? but if you read my comments lately i have been nothing but friendly here
>>16532892
forgot pic
>>16530815
Don't strain yourself. Let it come out naturally. I heard lifting your knees up to your chest is the same as squatting, which is the natural position. You need a special stool or to brace both your arms on something to do it though. Don't wipe too much either. Jump in the shower if you have to.
Trust me, I have hemorrhoids...it fucking sucks.
>>16532892
>well maybe modeling for 8 hours a day is my way to cope with being a neet, maybe i would love for any of you to show any kind of iniciative and i dont know any other way than showing what i do or maybe i just concider this place mi personal pissing ground who knows? but if you read my comments lately i have been nothing but friendly here
Coping is fine, but you don't have to show everyone what you're doing. We don't care. At least wait till you're halfway decent before showing us. Your constant posting of your models just breeds animosity towards you. We don't care about your models. Stop posting them. I'm being nice about this. I could be a whole lot meaner, if I wanted to.
Made a friend at group therapy and going to grab a coffee with her today. Feels kinda weird with me being an anxious and depressed loner, but I think we're all gonna make it brahs.
>>16533079
>holding my art at ransom
this pisses me off greately
i think you should back off, you dont want to see me mad kid
>>16533153
lulwut the post
>>16530877
This is exactly how I feel. I hate that I'm so pathetic and unwilling to grow up and live in the real world.
>>16533147
That's great! I hope it all works out for you!
>>16531207
Steam, I guess. That's where my ex that I met on /x/ met assloads of dudes and got thousands of dollars in free games.
Is it okay to ask for help with committing suicide here? I know it's mostly focused on recovery ITT but if anyone knows any methods that will end my life quickly with not too much effort I'd be very grateful.
Tonight while standing still I mindlessly held contact with a man who was walking by with an attractive female at his side who may or may not have also been looking at me. I don't know who initiated the eye contact. I kept looking at him mindlessly until he embarrasingly turned his head straight down to the ground, and then I became aware of what I'd done. I had defeated someone without even realizing it. I had instinctively held my ground. I felt newfound power. This achievement serves as a reminder of how far I've come. In the past any eye contact with a stranger would've given me a mini panic attack. When I started working on making eye contact with strangers, I would immediately look away when they looked back at me. Then I began to hold the eye contact longer but embarrassingly look down, like the man I defeated. Now I have unconsciously dominated someone. Before tonight I had only consciously dominated women and stalemated men.
Seeing myself in him showed me how ridiculous I was to be afraid of eye contact.
I strongly advise NEETs and shut-ins to work on making and holding eye contact with strangers. It's worked wonders for my assertiveness and confidence in public and crowds. Think of it like a game and you'll have fun becoming more experienced. It's motivated me to look forward to going out so I can play my game and get better at it. In fact it's a game you're already playing every time you walk past someone, so you might as well stop losing.
I wouldn't be surprised if this boosts testosterone. Dominating strangers makes you feel more manly because it makes you more manly. Don't be afraid of inciting a fight unless you're in a ghetto or something, I've never even received a negative reaction. Typing this stuff out might make me seem creepy, especially considering the context, but there's nothing creepy about it in reality. Staring at your feet as you walk is much more creepy and pathetic.
Does anybody here get "morning sickness" before stressful events? In the past, when I attended college, I would have nausea and have to take a crap or two every day before class. This made bus rides very uncomfortable and worrisome. I applied for college again, so I need a solution to this.
>>16519820
neets tell their story about how they cope and lvie their life. It's actually pretty helpful.
>>16533789
Thats an interesting case try googling it?
You can try gravol or anti-anxiety meds. Maybe some brief CBT therapy will help?
>>16531187
Just mess around on the computer all day. Play solitaire or that new fallout on godmode because I'm too lazy, shit like that. Read romance stories sometimes. I don't even do anything but time still goes on.
>>16533347
It's tough, right? I hate I'm like that too, but can't change it. At least we're not the only ones like that, Anon.
>>16533653
assisting is considered a crime that can lead to jailtime. do it yourself.
>>16533656
so you max autistic-ed someone? good for you? you know people also look away from retards and the disabled. people dont like looking at that shit.
tfw now that ten has left the extra scummy have started returning to the channel
r
i
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>>16534391
we never left
>>16533656
>I wouldn't be surprised if this boosts testosterone.
You guys need to read about hormone production. Just feeling more masculine has nothing to do with testosterone production.
>>16533656
Look at this faggot.
That's the problem with /adv/ a huge chunk of advice is given by retards.
Like I have poor social skills but enough to get by and not make a nuisance of myself, I'd like to more social, outgoing etc, and I get given advice like this which is the equivalent of tattooing 'CREEP' on your forehead.
I'm not a neet but I'm curious.
What's it like being a neet? How do you support yourselves if you don't earn any money? How old are you? Do you have regrets? Why didn't you seize particular opportunities etc?
Sometimes I find the idea attractive because it's comfortable and safe, like giving up and dying on heroin or something. But then I get disgusted and find motivation. I have to scrape lower every time but better to die than give up.
>>16534527
This also a shut-in with a job thread.
I was NEET for 6 months, it was OK for the first 2 months since I was my early 20s and was "waiting" for a degree related career. After a while it became apparent that I wasn't going to get one, I started claiming JSA. Fucking soul-destroying waiting in that queue every week. JSA couldn't cover shit so I picked up the first job I could find, which was working in a supermarket. It's only marginally better than collecting a pittance.
It's soul-numbing which,
I think,
is better than soul-destroying.
>>16532467
>getting this mad at 4 miserable pics
>on a thread that will never reach image limit
I'm bored, what should I model next?
>>16533656
Jesus fucking christ this is the most cringeworthy thing I've read in a while. You think having someone look away from you STARING AT THEM FOR NO GOD DAMN REASON is you DOMINATING them? Give me a fucking break.
What the actual fuck is wrong with you? That's fucking creepy and I strongly advise you to never fucking do this shit. Try to make eye contact when you're actually talking to people. Cause you know, that's normal. Not this cringe shit.
I'm sorry if you're a nice, cool dude, but this is just awful to read.
>>16533656
hes got better shit to do than stare back at you all day long. what was suppose to happen? he was going to stop walking and continue your little staring contest for the rest of the day? youre not even a blimp on his radar. youre going to be thinking about him all week, maybe longer, but he completely forgot about you after one minute.
>>16534538
I dont think it matters what your job is, all is on you to make the best of it. You could also apply for other jobs in the meantime.
I fucking love everyone I work with even though so far I havnt become good enough friends to see outside of work. Can't believe how quickly I started to get social skills when I actually tried speaking off the top of my head instead of worrying what people were going to think of me.
>>16533656
Is this bait? this is one of the most autistic things I've seen.
>>16533789
I do minus the crapping.
>>16534527
>Do you have regrets?
I regret everything. regretting actions hurts more than regretting inaction, so I choose inaction.
>Why didn't you seize particular opportunities etc?
See above. even if I fight the fear, I still lose to regret. what's the point of trying if there's never satisfaction? whether I succeed or fail I still regret so trying only hurts more.
>>16534487
fine, i meant the shit
>>16535833
let it burn
>>16534388
>>16534520
>>16534716
>>16534738
>>16535555 (checked)
As I mentioned in my post, I'm aware the way I think and write about it seems creepy, but there's absolutely nothing creepy about what I'm doing. I'm not staring at people. I keep to myself when appropriate. I'm simply doing what everyone else does, but consciously (until last night when I did it unconsciously which is a sign it's becoming more and more natural) thinking about it in a different way. Maybe the norms are different elsewhere, but where I live it's rude not to acknowledge passersby. I glance around, surveying the faces, and if I lock eyes with someone I hold contact. Then the following happens: they (or I) look away (either immediately or after several seconds), smile, nod, and/or greet. Depending on the context of how they look away, you'll know if you dominated them, and they'll know it too. Back when I used to avoid eye contact with strangers, I would notice people looking at me and I felt like the creepy one for avoiding them. Kids stare at me all the time too, but I've never thought of them as creepy for it.
The significance behind the guy I instinctively defeated is clear. He didn't look away. He didn't smile or nod or greet. He embarrassingly looked straight down well before passing, he was still around 15 ft away. He probably felt emasculated about it, because I dominated him while he was with an attractive woman no less. In the wild, doing to a predator what he did to me is a sign of weakness that you'll get pounced on for.
>>16534492
Please enlighten me. The causative relationship between behavior and testosterone production is unclear. Higher t will make you act more manly (such as after a strenuous workout), but acting more manly may also increase t. Quick Google search brings this up, tell me what you think is wrong. www.dangerandplay.com/2014/07/30/science-shows-dominant-behavior-posture-increase-testosterone/
>>16535955
Whats with all the edgy kids on 4chan that think nature rules all?
I wish I had something to tell you but I think you are trolling.
Alright I'm not quite a neet but I will be fairly soon if I don't get a job
I'm in my senior year of High School. Target is hiring for seasonal positions. Will they even consider me for seasonal if I have to go to school during the day?
i am a shut in. all i do is work, play video games, jack off, and go to the gym.
what the serious fuck is wrong with me?
>>16535967
>implying nature is controlled by the unnatural
I think you're trolling.
Maybe you guys are so upset because you don't know how to make natural eye contact with strangers and therefore think it's always going to come off as creepy.
I came here because my eye contact game has been successful at improving my confidence and assertiveness. I've seen a lot of NEETs and shut-ins looking for help with that. If you're too afraid of being seen as "creepy" then you're not gonna make it. Have fun fapping alone in your parents' basement where no one can see you.
>>16536030
>I came here because my eye contact game has been successful
but how can you say this if you havn't made it yet?
I see a certain truth eye contact helps but you havnt done as much as you think.
I think eye contact is good because if you keep your eyes down you dont realize people look at you.
Its up to you to take the opportunity to know someone, not stare contest.
>>16536030
You care too much about what you don't have and should just focus on what you have. try new experiences if your current ones arent going anywhere.
>>16536059
This is extremely true and I'm impressed you were able to infer that. It's hard in general to know what you have until it's gone, and when you've struggled with depression it feels like you don't have anything. One of my points is that improving at holding eye contact with strangers has encouraged me to try new experiences because it's something you can do wherever there's a crowd.
>>16536048
I used to get palpitations when locking eyes with strangers and could barely look someone in the eye during conversations.
>>16536099
I actually meant to reply to >>16536003
so I didnt really infer as much.
The more I think about it i think you are actually correct.
It can't hurt to not be a pussy and keep your eyes to yourself all the time.
I even used to feel like everything was racing a million miles a minute when locking eyes, but I calmed it down.
Its proved useful in interviews, conversations, meeting people, judging character etc.
Its not like what you think though where you can tell whos a beta or whos disrespecting you. You have to go deeper than that by spending more time with another to build bonds and talking.
>>16536030
> my eye contact game
Jesus. You nutcases have to break everything into real small pieces. Kinda like a quarter of /d/ threads is just sex broken down into niche fetishes that don't make sense on their own.
>>16536214
I wish I didn't have to go critical thinking on everything. Its too damn much.
>>16536214
Cowgirls is love.
Cowgirls is life.
>>16536214
I'm not a nutcase man, I have social anxiety (don't most here?) so things that come naturally to "normies" have to be consciously practiced, or else I'll look like even more of a nutcase staring at my shoes as I walk.
>>16536170
>I actually meant to reply to >>16536003 #
>so I didnt really infer as much.
Haha I see. Shows it's a common issue for NEETs/shut-ins.
I agree more with you than what I wrote desu. My view came off as excessively vain and overly analytical/autistic. Thinking of it as a game helped motivate me to keep myself from "losing" by immediately looking away, but I wasn't actively thinking of it as a competition. When I said I'd only "stalemated" men before, I was referring to the usual polite nods. My post makes me seem like I'm a psychopath staring everyone down hoping they look away right? The goal wasn't to "dominate" others but not let myself get "dominated" by looking away, i.e. the goal was to look long enough to have a human connection.
I made a mistake of letting the guys reaction go to my head. I saw my former fearful self in him and and realized how pathetic I mustve looked to everyone, it's pathetic that it made me feel good.
Inb4 damage control. I'm only submitting this post to let you all know I can see myself from your viewpoint. I don't care anymore my game is ruined now . I just want to be a better person. Yeah I am a nutcase lol but what can be done about it?
>>16536323
yeah you make more sense by now.
Cursed you and i are to blow shit out of proportion all the time.
>tfw only way to die is to slit throat/try jugular
>too scared of the pain and if I fuck up
Has anyone here successfully moved from the United States to another country that felt at home-y?
I dream of moving away to another country but I feel like not having been raised in that other country will prevent me from ever truly being at home there.
>>16536435
My shitposts all make sense now.
I got a bad migraine. Projectile vomiting is the best part because it's the only thing that brings relief.
Things are always different leading up to the migraine. I should've seen it coming. The flip-flopping thoughts and emotions, I only get that way before a migraine.
I know what triggered it too. Every time I take a step to get out of NEETdom I get a migraine. It's discouraging. I'm too sensitive to stress.
>tfw you'll be spending christmas and new years completely alone
>>16536954
there was one neet that did, but they had to get married to do so
>>16537934
you can spend it with me if you like?
>>16537977
this made me smile a bit, thanks anon
>>16538004
you taking me up on the offer? I have lots of chocolate, which is what Christmas is all about.
>>16538010
i've found that meeting people from 4chan can lead to pretty bad things, plus a lot of the people here are... scummy, as someone else mentioned above, i'm not saying that you are just speaking out loud... it's a nice offer though
>>16538015
good plan anon. never ever meet someone from this hell hole.
>>16538015
rejected, again. oh well.
>>16538023
are you speaking from experience too?
>>16538029
are you spending christmas and new years alone too?
>>16538034
new year, yes. not sure about Christmas yet.
im literally so shut in i couldnt be bothered posting
>>16538038
sorry to hear, at least there's a chance of having someone around on christmas
>>16538046
i fell asleep, sorry. do you have no family?
>>16538355
i've damaged my relationship with my family to a point i can't be in the same house as them anymore, maybe next year things will be better
>>16538461
sorry to hear that. if you have hope for things to be better next year, why not try and make it better this year?
>>16538471
it's way too soon for that, i've embarrassed myself pretty badly and i would probably have a panic attack from all of the silent judging if i were to show up this year
>>16538633
they find your poop jugs too? we've all been there
>>16538654
i wish i were in a joking mood, i did crack a smile though
>>16538668
>implying its a joke
y-yeah, h-haha
>>16538673
sorry to hear then, i don't want to know how you got your poop in a jug... sounds messy
>>16538685
your situation sounds messier desu
>>16538687
it's pretty bad, nothing lewd though but it's bad, bad enough that i don't want to talk about it anonymously
>>16538633
what on earth did you do? I bet I've done worse though.
>>16538710
anonymously is the kind of place you could talk about it though. you can't leave me hanging like this.
>>16538716
we playing horrible people olympics?
what did YOU do?
pull a ticket take a seat?
a good grief
>>16538749
all sorts of embarrassing things. anyway, i'm not a horrible person, I just do horrible things from time to time.
I decided I was going to do one good deed a day for a while to make me feel like a better person. Inviting you for Christmas was my good deed for today, you should reconsider. (this isn't one of those horrible things I was just talking about)
>>16538768
i wasnt that person. there are a lot of curious people involved now.
also youre a shit story teller
come back when you git gud at it
*throws popcorn*
>>16538774
just tell us what you did, dickhead.
>>16538794
poop jugs
>>16538768
this wasn't me btw (the one who was going to be alone for the holidays), i'm not talking about because i could get myself or someone else into trouble by talking about it on 4chan
>>16538854
I meant to link this post, sorry.
>>16538749
>>16538854
booooooooooooring
>>16538854
If no one died, it probably isn't that bad.
Have you showered today?
>>16538876
ditto
>>16538900
looks like the little neetling killed someone then.
did they deserve it at least?
>>16538900
showered, yes
eaten, no
if it were safe to talk about it i would, no one's dead though so it would be a let down story for you all anyway
i only wanted to vent about being alone, i wasn't expecting to do a tell all
>>16538916
This is called talking, I'm taking an interest. The questions have hardly even started.
>>16538915
they hardly ever deserve it.
>>16538951
we talking serial murders now? how many did deserve it??
>>16538960
I've never murdered anyone, I just give them a stern talking to in my head.
>>16538942
tl;dr, i have no friends or family left that want to communicate with me, i'm living alone, i'm not a neet, no one is dead
>>16538983
>no one is dead
yet.
>>16538995
i laughed, thanks, i would never take my own life though no matter how bad things got
>>16539012
What stops you from killing yourself?
>>16539027
im going to guess the will or balls
Anyone else in here who wants to improve their life but is being held back by mental/chronic illness? This is such a pain in the ass, I wish I was lazy instead. At least that's something one can actually work on.
>>16539027
>>16539030
because i try to stay optimistic and motivated even when everything falls apart around me
>>16519807
guys please help me.
I'm finishing my trimester in uni next week and I can't handle the stress anymore.
I'm studying systems engineering, and my classes are programming in java, calculus and history.
I never ever took a calculus course before, and even though it looks easy, I don't pay any attention in class.
I have a high chance of passing all of my classes, but still I am afraid of failing idk why.
Also, I usually agree to help friends with their projects and this has made my anxiety worst because now they depend on me for EVERYTHING, and I can't say no, its too late now.
/adv/ please help me PLEASE
what can I do???
PS. My calculus exam is next week... Monday 14 I hope to pass but i am too much of a NEET to study... I really can't find any motivation right now PLEASE HELP ME GUYS
What's the "best" ways to off yourself when considering ease of access, time, and pain? The less pain the better.
>>16540263
Adderol overdoze
>>16540263
call a suicide hotline, faggot
>>16540406
Why? Shouldn't I be able to take my life if I choose?
>>16531590
they're coming from someone who doesn't waste their time modeling literal shit
>>16540484
because youre just a melodramatic faggot that is too lazy to get his shit together
>>16540548
And? If I'm never going to amount to anything because I'm too lazy to get my shit together then shouldn't I just end everything now?
Soon as she was gone from me,
A traveler came by,
Silently, invisibly
He took her with a sigh.
>>16523726
> I treat him properly, play with him and all
Awesome.
> Is there really a mandatory need for him to frequently go outside?
I don't think walks are always the right answer. The important thing is that a dog is well cared for, and yours is.
Mandatory? There are dogs for whom being walked is very stressful because they're afraid of other dogs. And dogs who get walked every day but aren't played with or treated well.
There are other ways to give your dog more activity than by walking him. There are games you can teach your dog. Or teach him tricks. There's also nose work, which can be done without evet leaving the house; it needs no special equipment, and dogs really like it. The videos are dull, but don't let that put you off.
In terms of having social anxiety, there is s huge benefit to walking a dog because when you interact with people while you're walking him, everyone is looking at the dog. So if you never look at anyone above their knees or remember their names, it's not unexpected.
Within a month:
>lost job
>lost best friend
>lost girlfriend
>family hates me
>living alone
It can only get better from here right?
