Wizard reporting, 35 kissless etc...
More for mental reasons than physical, I've had at least some interest from women in my life.
I've been getting massages this year, the closest I get to intimacy.
Offers of "happy endings" give me anxiety attacks though, I shake uncontrollably on the massage table, can't say yes.
Last night cute Columbian girl massaged me.
She was really nice, ended up taking my pants off while I was face down, just to massage butt.
I told her I wasn't really comfortable, being in this situation was not normal for me. This opens a can of worms, I ended up telling her I'd never had a gf (but didn't say I was a virgin or go into detail).
She was saying "oh, but you're good looking, are you gay?". "No, shy", "Timid?", "Yes".
I thought she might just be angling for some extra money from a happy ending, not unusual.
She asked me to turn over. I did so but covered my dick with one hand, she said to relax, don't worry etc. Eventually dropped my hand and felt... well.... naked in front of someone, terrible.
She asked if she could touch me. I said notsure.jpg, she massaged my legs and asked again, a few times. I evnetually said OK.
She starts playing with my dick, then suddenly started sucking me off.
tbc
She's just allergic. Don't overthink. Treat and act now. Before it's too late.
And I'm no expert, just a clueless wizard but I'm pretty sure she meant it. We've all seen porn of actresses giving shitty head, and then those amateur girls sucking off their bf's with smiles in their eyes, going slowly etc. If this was porn, it would be fappable/10. She was trying to deepthroat me, swallowed nearly my whole dick.
So I don't know, something just felt like there was more to this... not that she could like me after knowing me for 20 mins but there was some feeling in it, she made me feel like she geniunely enjoyed this.
So I stroked her hair, and reached for her hand... and she got up and asked if she could kiss me.
I said yes... I we kissed for a few seconds before she stood up and ripped her clothes off (except for her underpants).
She sat back down on me, grinding on my dick as I alternated between kissing her and sucking her tits
Blah blah blah, fooled around in lots of different positions. She said I'd made her horny and she wished we could fuck, she whispered in my ear to bring a condom next time.
Eventually I came, she said I left her horny and even as I was dressing she kept kissing me, grabbing my limp dick, and my ass.
She gave me her phone number
Oh, and the last, important bit I guess was that she didn't ask for any extra money.
I wasn't sure if I should tip her or not... if it was a normal massage I'd tip, but because it turned sexual I wasn't sure if it would seem like I was paying for that, insulting her.
I only had $20 to tip, decided to give it to her, she laughed and said it didn't matter, but thanks. "It was a gift".
During the whole thing she kept whispering to me that we had to keep talking like it was a normal massage, if her boss was listening. So we were doing all this small talk about work and travel while I had her tits in my hands.
Afterwards I started thinking about AIDS and Herpes and went home and showered and gargled alcohol and also beat myself up for doing such a sleazy, gutter thing.
Anyway, way-too detailed post for advice request I guess (this is partially just cathartic)... but I just want thoughts on this.
I'm wondering today if it was just cold, hard business and if this is her way of hooking customers, or if she actually liked me at some level.
Could that be possible? Or am I a naive fool.
She wouldn't be gf material I guess anyway, sucking a guy off without knowing his name, but fuck it, I like her.
Talk me out of going back with a condom and fucking her tonight, please...
>tldr allergies
>>16478066
Sorry, what does "allergic" mean in this context? #oldfag
>>16478100
>Talk me out of going back with a condom and fucking her tonight, please...
She's just out to drain your mana.
Seriously just go back and fuck her if you liked it so much. It's no big deal. Even if she does just want to make you a regular customer at least you can experience intimate companionship for a brief moment.
>>16478062
First you need to tell me where this massage parlor is at, OP.
>>16478117
Melbourne, Australia. Sexual services in massage parlours are illegal here, there are signs up in the parlour, in the rooms, emphasising this, telling you you'll be asked to leave if you ask etc (hence why she was whispering that we had to pretend to be having a normal massage, not make sex noise, make small talk etc .... while she was rubbing my dick all over her tits)
>>16478104
People are just shitposting that in every thread also lmao don't use hashtags on 4chan.
I would say you should be prepared for the possibility that she really was just trying to reel in a customer and could take advantage of you for money. However, it might just be good for you to have sex with anyone at this point. And who knows, maybe she takes pride in her work and legitimately wants to help you access your sexuality? It doesn't need to be black and white. But there's always the possibility, so it's good to have your guard up.
You should weigh these considerations, and do whatever you think you're comfortable with. I could see it going either way. Just wear a condom and make sure it leaves with you.
I guess she was just turned on. Go back and have fun with her. Maybe you could continue to have sex, just because. What do you have to loose?
>>16478194
Thanks for your answer man, and advice. Appreciated.
>>16478195
With what I have to lose, I guess that's what I was asking about it here for. Biggest one is STD's... it's not a whorehouse but I'd be naive to think a lot doesn't go on there (although not what we did, normally it's no touching while getting a handjob, I understand, but haven't done it myself). Just not quite sure what kind of girl she is, if she protects herself and is careful.... if she figured I was a virgin maybe that's why she took risks with me, she thought I'd be safe, but if she does that occasionally (even a few times a year) it could be risky to her, and then to me if I go back.
Other thing to lose of course is money, dignity etc
What exactly do you want from this? Seems like she's careful. She didn't have sex with you, and told you to bring a condom next time. Don't think she was just saying that to get extra money. Why pay more for something that you'd be getting NEXT time as a paying customer?
And though you can get STDs from oral, you don't have as high a chance and it's only a few specific ones.
Just decided I am going to go see her again tonight and I fucking can't make myself do it. Can't ring where she works to make a booking with her. I'm afraid it'll be different, I'm afraid of fucking her, I'm afraid of being made a fool of, afraid of what kind of person it makes me etc etc.
Welcome to my neurosis!
>>16478100
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>>16478062
this is hos AIDS was born.
enjoy your new lifelong friend
>>16478265
what the fuck are you afraid of retard? You are THIRTY FIVE YEARS OLD
you have let life pass you by because you're scared someone might laugh at you
she gave you a hand job, blow job, made out with you, grabbed your ass, etc pretty much did everything but fuck because you didn't have a condom.
go fuck her you idiot.
the absolute worst comes to worse it doesnt work out, you never go there again and all is forgotten.
but she fucking wants you idiot. stop obsessing over the details and just enjoy the moment. let things play themselves out, don't try to micro manage every little aspect of your life because that's why you're still 35 and a virgin.
