How do I tell if I have a deep-seated hatred for women? I don't think I do but how do you people see it in another person? If you looked at me, what would tell you that I'm a bitter guy??
Being cold to women. Saying bad things about most women. Making a lot of sexist, crude jokes. If you blamed being single on women instead of problems with yourself.
>>17237642
I don't do any of that except maybe being cold, but I feel like I'm cold by nature to everyone. What do you think of as being cold?
Manipulating and controlling women you have relationships with, making women miserable with gender based language and violence, blaming all women for your problems in relationships or life, not viewing women as individuals, not giving the same respect to women that you would to men, inability to have a civil working relationship with women in work and school (non-romantic), getting irrationally angry over the concept of women's rights especially when it goes against the "perceived" rights of men (see sjw topics re: rape, domestic abuse), viewing women as complaintive or "bitchy" over innocuous things, being upset by women who engage in stereotypical masculine behaviors, being upset by women who are open about their sexuality, not listening to women when they speak, addressing women based on their perceived attractiveness, ignoring or being violent toward women who don't adhere to your idea of a good/attractive woman
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>>17237671
Can I ask why you think you do?
>>17237678
Not OP, but I often worry about the same thing, even though I'm nice to women and don't do any of the things mentioned in
>>17237671
The reason I often worry that I unknowingly hate women is that my sexual fantasies all center around women being made powerless, being objectified, degraded, humiliated, and being physically, verbally and sexually abused.
I have no generalized power fantasies, nor any non-sexual fantasies about harming women, but ALL of my sexual fantasies involve extreme harm to women.
So clearly I have issues with women or sex or both, but do I necessarily hate women? I don't have a good argument to prove that I do or that I don't.
>>17238192
I don't believe that it doesn't effect how you view women, because that fantasy developed alongside hatred toward femaleness. The fact that you come to this discussion with that in mind indicates to me how ingrained it is in you and a lot of us. Most people are socialized with differing degrees and forms of misogyny, and associate very early that femininity is weak, degrading and humiliating, and generally to overcome these feminine attributes are punished or ridiculed in boys especially. Our sexualities don't develop in a vacuum, and are influenced by very basic feelings. Excitement, violence, happiness, aggression, fears- things we witness from all ages can work themselves in to eventual fantasies.
I think the fact that you worry about it, however, shows an awareness. Introspection is difficult and can be painful.
>>17238241
And because I got a little off point, to answer your question, I think there's an ingrained bias in you. I don't mean to discourage you or call you bad or evil not at all, but I think it's important to acknowledge.
>>17237678
OP here, I saw this question a while ago but I wasn't sure how to answer. I think it's because a lot of women, my age especially, are very flighty around me and seem quick to get away, but older women aren't as bad. I'm wondering if they're sensing some kind of malice coming off me.
Ever since I have been redpilled on women, I can't look at them the same way. I find little desire to pursue girls anymore. I don't know how to view women the same again. I was not like this before.
>>17237671
Men who act like this are going to get more women than men who do not act like this
>>17238346
you know you have a deep seated hatred for women when in a thread unrelated to dating you whine about misogynists getting laid more
>>17238346
And you'll make less money being a nurse than you would through buying patents for life saving medicines then hiking up the price so that desperate patients have no other choice but to hand over everything they own.
Which kind of person would you rather be?
What if I treat everyone the same way but men take it better? Should I put an act or be nicer to them because they are women?
i'm legitimately being curious here
>>17238424
Why would you post a gif like this? How fucking long am I going to be stuck sitting here waiting for it to finish? You bastard.
>>17238192
I am exactly the same way in how I fantasize about women sexually. In day to day life, I don't notice any malicious feelings toward individual women or women in general, and I have no difficulty interacting with women or working together with, or alongside, women. The only thing that ever arouses me sexually, however, is thinking about women being insulted, degraded, beaten and raped, or watching porn of such acts, either simulated or actual.
I don't remember my sexual tastes ever being different than they are now. Even when I was barely starting puberty, I fantasized about rape or sexualized violence toward girls and women. I've just always fixated on it or been fascinated by it.
>>17238463
Yeah, I'm not as over the top as you, but I definitely get off to similar things. I think it's a lot more common than >>17238241
is probably comfortable with. I think sex and violence push a lot of the same buttons for men. And because, to secure a woman, men no longer have to beat the shit out of each other, we now enjoy fucking the shit out of women. Scratches our sex itch and our violence itch at the same time.
