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Is it possible for a naturally passive person to eventually become assertive?

As a mild-mannered someone who dislikes conflict and awkward situations, I have on many occasions let people talk to me in ways I didn't like because I didn't want to create an awkward moment for others in the group or I wanted to avoid conflict. I'm the kind of person that feels uncomfortable telling "no" to strangers and acquaintances because they might get mad. These type of encounters almost always leave me feeling angry at myself for not having spoken up and on rare occasions will cause me to have an outburst of rage if pushed too much. I'm trying to work on ways to become a more assertive person, who doesn't have to seek permission to do things, but sometimes I'm afraid my nature will win and my efforts will be in vain, leaving me as nothing but a tool and a people pleaser.
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>>16789596

yes. though generally you wont naturally become assertive. you have to actually be assertive ABOUT being assertive to become assertive.

you have to choose your battles. but if you have nothing to lose by saying 'no' then why not say no?

>BECAUSE ARGUMENTS

you also have the option of stepping away from the arguments. almost universally. almost
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I'm currently undergoing group therapy as training.

I'm the most dominant and assertive member of my group by far. I know my mind, I speak up and I try to back up everything I say with reason.

I do my best to speak calmly, to listen carefully, to be diplomatic... and some people still find me intimidating and accuse me of being overbearing. It's just the way it is.

You have to accept that being assertive, confident and honest unsettles a lot of people because they've got by their entire lives taking the route of least resistance and...
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>>16789596

Basically no.

It comes naturally to some people and not to others. Trying to force it will likely backfire. You try to assert yourself, you'll see people better at the game escalating on you, and you won't win; you'll either cave or make yourself look like an aggressive asshole, or both. Socially-capable people have an eye for people who will take their shit, and will not stand to see this authority challenged. You will lose every time.

So you're a doormat. Sucks, bud, but that's...
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So last Friday I went on a successful date with a cutie. Dinner, ice cream, bar, sex. Stayed the night at her place, sex in the morning. I like this girl, so could I ask her out again for Valentine's Day? Or should I wait more than a week before the next date? Normally I would wait, but it's Valentines Day and I feel like that might make it ok.
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You fucked her twice and you are still nervous to ask?

Just fucking do it.
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>>16789541
Forgot to mention we text about every other day, so I'd probably ask her out again on Thursday if I chose to do so. I'm 22 and I've never had an intimate relationship, so this is all kinda foreign to me.
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>>16789541

Let me put it this way: she is DEFINITELY going to feel like shit if you don't ask her out for Valentine's Day.

That said, don't make a big deal of the holiday, given this sounds like just your second date.

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I'm not sure what career path to take. I was suspended last month and depression has gotten worse since then. The college told me either transfer or come back on probation. Help? I don't even know what degree to pursue.
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What were you doing, and why were you suspended?
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>>16789508

I was suspended for cheating on an exam and a classmate reported me. Got kicked out of the Archaeology program and was almost summoned to court. My math skills are really poor. I have 70 credits and roughly 2 more years left. I'm not sure if other colleges will accept me.

what do you do when a girl tells you she's been raped?
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Depends on the relationship you have with the girl.
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>>16793850
cool, so you've been through it before, that'll make this much easier
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>>16793860
we met at a party, exchanged numbers, begin sexting, and we were planning on having sex so she thought she should tell me first about it

So I'm trying to decide if I should take up fencing. I have wanted to do it for a while but my issue is that the closest place to me is an hour away and I have a shitty car for gas. I can get my equipment no problem but classes seem expensive and also I don't want to be an adult surrounded by kids
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Man, if it interests you, give it a shot.
I do historical fencing (basically, we use rapiers and daggers and whatnot instead of foils) and it's fun on a bun.
Expensive, but a neat hobby.

See if there's any closer options or if you've got any friends already involved, then take the plunge if you're curious and can afford it.
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>>16789535
I live in piss shit nowhere so that's kinda my only option and I prefer modern fencing for its speed
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>>16789599
Also

I feel like all the people (especially women) who make fun of the friendzone or "nice guys" really don't understand how dating or human relationships work.

Guys get shamed for ever trying to get with a girl at all. Women literally cannot comprehend this because there's literally no scenario where a woman could ever not get laid.

There's no girl equivalent to a neckbeard or a "nice guy" because women never have to try to begin with.

Honestly, do women genuinely believe that all the guys who talk about the friend zone wanted...
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>>16793752
>Women literally cannot comprehend this because there's literally no scenario where a woman could ever not get laid
Assuming this is not bait, are you really stupid enough to believe that.
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>>16793774
Any girl could get laid if she cast a wide enough net.

I'm not talking about relationships, just having sex.
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>>16793779
Any guy could get laid if he cast a wide enough net.

I'm not talking about relationships, just having sex.

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I always read about neetbux on here, can someone point me in the right direction?

My job makes me want to kill myself
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>>16789486

then get a new job. dont be a leech

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I found out my friend has a bimbo fetish.

She likes to dress up in corseted outfits, stuff her bra and wear thigh and butt pads and look at herself in the mirror...

Is this behavior healthy? I don't know if its... right? I think its a case of massive amounts of internalized misogyny or just the media making her feel she needs to look and act a certain way to be appealing... but she says its what she wants and its a pipe dream but its her dream... I don't know if she has toxic ideals of what a woman should be or not, I'm just very... confused.
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Who cares? I mean, people with rape fetishes by definition will never actually like to be raped, they like to keep it in their control zone. Probably the same with her, she likes how she looks even if it's forward and sexualized.
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>>16793672
a lot of the thrill of sexual stuff is the taboo. I suspect a lot of women in authority positions would love to be used as fuck toys and degraded.
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>>16793718
She doesn't normally look like that, she wants to though. She holds it as an ideal, like she would love to look like a giant breasted, giant assed bimbo... so she dresses up in a costume and just fantasizes about things. It all seems very unhealthy, as if she isn't happy with how she looks, but its not a healthy ideal to hold.

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So let me explain something to you.

>Have very little happening in my life at this moment
>Go regularly to a certain fast food restaurant
>I have mild OCD
>Notice patterns everywhere
>Every ~4 weeks there is a certain personnel change
>It's a teen girl
>Every time
>Every single time
>From...
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If this indicates how you talk and act you aren't going to get a teenage girl to fuck you.
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>>16789466

Man. You're on a whole other level.

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Boss man wants me to have more conversations with the customer that's more than just "hi", "will this be eveything", and "have a nice day". What should I do?
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Talk to the customers about politics or personal issues. Ask them about their genitals.
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>>16789452
What is your Job OP?
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>>16789452

Where do you work and what do you do there?

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Let's say I've rung a potential employer three times now and each time the receptionists continue to tell me that the Employer is not in and they sound more and more irritated with me each time... Should I stop calling? Will the receptionists opinion matter to the employer?
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>>16789387
Need more background info.
How far apart were the calls? Are you calling to ask about job openings, or waiting to hear back about an interview?

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Not even 9 minutes into my 21st birthday and I am already ready to kill myself pretty much, I feel useless half the days and my girlfriend is neglectful of me so that doesn't help at all. I barely sleep anymore. I feel like a failure even though I have a degree, I don't know what's wrong with me, I just want to be happy. Yet at the same time I don't, it feels normal being this low, happiness seems like an outside thing, something that just doesn't belong in me.
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Have you considered getting mental health treatment? As I said to someone else on the first page of /adv/, it doesn't have to stay this way, and it won't.

Also, drinking while depressed usually isn't a great idea, so I wouldn't if I were you.

Get help and get better, please. Killing yourself is a waste.
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talk with your gf about your depression. if she doesn't help then break up with her
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>>16793501
No, they'll take my guns, they are the only thing that I have control over anymore, I choose peaceful options above all else. I just need that sense of control, it's the only thing that keeps me going.

Got invited to my first one by some people I work with and I need advice on how to navigate them. I know from experience I am horrible at talking to people I don't know (think the person that follows the only people they know at the party the whole time). How should a turbo 4chan autist (literally 23 y/o virgin) handle this? No piece of advice is unwanted.
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>>16789381

it's a frat party, you're overthinking it

just do shots until you dont remember anything
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>>16789419

I agree with this. If you're a legit sperg then this is going to go badly for you no matter what.

If you're drunk you'll at least be entertaining.

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Questions? Ask.

Time is money. You have 30 minutes of it- for free. Use it wisely.
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if i invest in monkeys what would my returns look like?
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got banned for botting in rs. first offense on the acc. haven't had an offense in years. This IS FUCKING BULLSHIT

how can i convince fagex to unban my acc. I paid 9.99 CAD for one month of membs and i still got 21 days of credit
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>>16793441
File a lawsuit against Jagex. Call the cops too.

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I'm an 18 year old who goes to highscool

I know how to speak to people and make good impressions, but I feel like almost everyone I consider a friend sees me as an acquaintance rather then friend.

Almost every time I'm the one saying hello and asking how are you doing and starting conversations. But never back at me

The people that have stuck closer I feel we are starting to slowly drift apart, we were a lot closer but I see my best friend more on his phone, and the lunch times we eat together there is lots of awkward silence

Whenever...
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I only have like 2 friends

yeah exactly 2 friends.

So don't feel bad, im sure you will find someone.
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I have a similar 'issue' I guess. I'm friendly with a lot of people, have no trouble meeting with new people or talking to people, have lots of acquaintances and am genuinely liked by a lot of people from what I can tell...but I don't have a lot of people I can really call friend. Eventually I realized it was all on me. People would invite me places or offer me openings to join their conversations or interests and I just never took. I tried for a little while to be more proactive but then I realized something else: I really just don't want many friends....
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>>16789423
A woman must of wrote this

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