Mutant Edition
Western Games in Development / Demos / Betas:
http://pastebin.com/Y0WWTZ67
Western RPG Maker Games / Betas
http://pastebin.com/0TanhqUw
Full Games / Old Games
http://pastebin.com/3mGPynVu
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>>583717
What's this from?
>>583721
look at the top left of the image
Has Tropic finished his *insert multiple delay here* yet?
>>583698
If I could be said to have a holy trinity of waifus it'd probably be Lina Inverse, Palutena, and Etna.
Just stick some of those chicks in microkinis and I'd be happy with just about anything made. Of course they're all under copyright so I can't use them in my stuff, dash it all. But ah well.
>>583748
Oh, forgot my trip. That was me. I never use these things outside this board.
>>583726
wasn't there supposed to be another demo like really soon?
how do i get above a 0% chance to capture Zatanna and Stargirl in SU?? fucking annoying
>>583636
Rooting for you fampaitachi
>>583765
yeah, today.
patreon com/latissa?ty=h
is the artist,
>>583789
thanks
not expecting too much t.b.h. but we shall see
>>583724
Oh durr. Got zoomed out too far to see on my phone. Thanks anyway.
>>583748
I'm not expert on the subject, but couldn't you tweak the appearances and names and claim it as parody?
>>583809
I more or less intend to do a lot of that with the Overwhored expansion. Most girls you bang will be parodies of something.
>>583816
Nice. I always felt a touch bit cheated with every girl that went into the orgasm matrix unmolested. I'd love to pull them out and fuck them all properly, assuming their brains aren't orgasmed to mush.
>>583843
The Orgasm Matrix mostly existed so that I could cut down on the number of necessary sex scenes in the game.
The Overwhored game folder has over 400 pics in it. While a lot of those are variants on the same scene it's still a ludicrous amount of work. If I had included every girl in every village I'd still be working on Overwhored a decade from now.
I get where you're coming from though, I'd feel the same way if I was looking at it from your perspective.
>>583853
Well you could do it like the cowgirls. I forget how many girls there were total, but I'm imagining them grouped up at different of the matrix area, and you go up and fuck each group as a whole. That'd cover everyone and be a lot less work. Maybe divide them by which area you got them from.
>>583867
I actually wasn't going to do that because the cost for having multiple characters in a single pic is enormous. I only got it done because PChronos decided to do it for free.
I think what originally happened was I posed the fans a question of several individual cowgirl scenes (which ended up being the Sayda princesses) and a group scene. I didn't have the budget for both at the time since I was still paying for everything out of my own pocket. Then PChronos swooped in like a hero and did the job for nothing.
Everything he did was free. He wouldn't let me pay him. Everything Skree related (except the character portraits) was also his work.
>>583713
God damn it! I love that bitches
Will someone provide the crack for roundscape?
>>583874
Huh, wasn't aware of the details. Couldn't tell those were by someone else, it's pretty spot on.
Well costs aside, I still say my idea is a good one. Oh well.
What do those costs look like, anyway?
>>583885
Depends on who you're hiring. Back then I had a strict budget limit of $50 a pic and it does show.
Generally speaking though, an extra character usually comes to $20-$40 per character depending on what you're doing. On the high end it can cost far more than that to add an extra character. Go look a NinjaKitty's rates some time. Much as I'd love to hire some of the top end artists there's a reason I don't.
>>583897
Who would you work with if you had unlimited money?
>>583906
Probably someone I don't know the name of right now. If that sounds strange it isn't. There are a lot of industry professional artists that do work for video games I don't know. They are, however, consummate professionals with extraordinarily high levels of skill. On average they make about $60-$70k a year. I'd probably have to offer double that to actually bring one onto adult work considering the damage it'd do to their career. So somewhere around $120k a year to $140k.
I could actually afford that if I made Breeding Season level money. So I don't actually need unlimited dosh, just their level of dosh.
>>583784
Hire villains from the hideout the use them to capture instead of mercy
Anyone have a link to Library Story yet? Think it's released
https://www.patreon.com/latissa?ty=h
>>583741
>has tropic dones something?
Anon, I. . .
>>583915
Well you could always fundraise for extra content, I'd pitch in a bit.
>>583951
Don't think it is yet. From what I understood from the announcement is that they are just gonna release it for everyone and the patrons were gonna get like an exclusive scene or some shit.
>>583789
>^____~`
I still cannot deal with this. Even Xaljio, the programmer, posted one. Are all russians secretly twelve?
>>583957
Commendable. Don't worry though, I WILL continue to upgrade things as I make more money through my patreon and go along.
https://www.patreon.com/cypressz?ty=h
If I end up making enough to pay myself as well as an artist I will do so.
>>583965
For Home Invasion, does a 1st of June 1st day release still look possible?
>>583965
Sounds good. As soon as I start not getting shit hours I'll be throwing some bones your way.
>>583968
Yes. If it doesn't happen it'll be because an artist didn't meet the deadline, but I don't think that'll happen. Everything else is ready.
>>583972
It's much appreciated! Thank you.
>>583740
Where is that from?
So I got the torrent version and this happened. Anyone now what to do?
>>584006
Try Alt+Ctrl.
>>584008
Didn't help.
>>583741
I've been waiting for basement build for like 3 weeks now. Why is he so fucking lazy?
>>584013
Try Alt+Enter.
>>584019
You pay him to be.
>>584006
go into game.ini and see if you can change it to fulscreen
>>584032
Did not help.
>>584031
Well, I tried almost nothing and I'm all out of ideas. Sorry, anon.
>>584047
Why won't it let me cheat senpai?
>>583874
>tfw the behind the scenes of a video game about sexual slavery makes you a tiny sliver less cyincal about humanity
>>584047
It has something to do with saving the project file
How do I unlock extra girls in the imaginarium?
>>576769
When/If Silver Bard resurfaces, I have a question about Night Game's characters/future characters. I have an old version of the game, and it used to be the save file mentioned a few characters that didn't seem to be included yet. The new save file makes no mention of them.
Has the cast been officially trimmed, is the game just smarter with its save files, or..?
How does feel about an LoQO and TA crossover(?) game?
>>584137
TA? LoQO stands for Legend of Queen Opala, obviously, but I can't figure out what TA is.
>>583816
Just make sure it's like, REALLY tweaked appearances; hentai is becoming more and more mainstream, and as we saw with Sunset's stuff and someone else (forgot who), companies are going to start cracking down on anything that could be remotely considered infringing.
(Also, there was a huge topic about this over at ULMF or something, but legally, most porn games using pre-existing characters aren't parodies, and neither are most porn movies based on existing series, as you would need to have the work "mock, comment on, or poke fun at an original work, its subject, author, style, or some other target, by means of humorous, satiric or ironic imitation.", which most porn games/movies based on series don't do.)
If you're wondering how so many of those porn "parody" movies don't get hit, it's because they either 1) make deals with the original license owners to allow this to happen, or 2) they do it on a series that's not that well known, or 3) they actually DO do a parody under legal definition, or 4) the company knows and just doesn't give a shit.
Sorry for the lecture about it, I just would hate to see you get hit man, you don't deserve your work to get flushed down the drain due to a C&D. So yeah, just be careful.
Also, since it didn't fit in the previous post, just wanted to reply to some posts from the previous thread;
>>582306
>>582331
Actually, a lot of western h-games sell quite well. Xenotake sold incredibly well, Anthophobia made at least $30,000 from dlsite alone, both western games.
Games get pirated more often in the west than the east, for sure, but to say that no one buys them isn't true; a lot of people pay for them because they realize that they can speak with their wallets as to whether they want this developer to make more games.
Pay for the game, more games come out from them, if not, then they don't. (A good number of people too will pirate the game first, and then, with this same logic, pay for the game afterwards as they feel the experience was worth the money and again, they want to see more from this developer.)
People pirating games too, even if they never pay for a dime of it, also can sometimes help sales of a game just by simply having word of mouth; they may not pay for the game, but by discussing it on a message board, they get a few other people interested in the game who might pay for it, and so on.
>>583699
>http://pastebin.com/Y0WWTZ67
Latest Roguelike download needs encryption key. What is it?
>>584154
I'm actually quite paranoid about it. It'll be about as close as the characters in Overwhored were to the things that inspired them.
>>584154
https://vndb.org/v731
>>584162
link looks fine from here. Those prompts for "encryption key" usually mean you didn't copy the link properly.
>>584166
>Taimanin Asagi
All right, got it.
>>584137
>Asagi and a not horribly drawn version of the three royals
>with the usual hypersensitivity and addictive cum
FUCKING FUND IT
>>583743
I guess im extremely out of the loop. Is this from Akabur?
Library Story Update
>Be patient please, guys! The game will be REALLY soon. But it still need time to test everything and make improvements! Because the game with multiple choices and on two languages - so each quest should be repeated several times ... Anyway during 8-10 hours we plan to release the game. Sorry for delays! Hope you'll appreciate this project! ^^`
>>584178
xialio and dahr, those two guys who were helping akabur, they're making their own game based on pricess trainer universe, called Iris Quest
>>584178
No, that's from Iris Quest, which is being made by two of Akabur's collaborators. It will be out months from now.
>>584191
so they need 10 more hours?
i dont mean to sound rude but why do people set goals they dont tend to
does anyone know how to get the good ends in Bend or Break?
>>584216
A few reasons. The first being that games are massively complex beasts and if any one person on a team drops the ball it can grind absolutely everything to a halt.
For the same reason (complexity) it's REALLY goddamn hard to guess how long things will take to get done. You'll get better at it as you gain experience... and most H-Game devs are working on their first game, not their fifth. Hell, I'm considered an "old hand" because I'm working on my SECOND game. I'll need years before I get really good at judging how long things should take.
It's a shame I don't speak Japanese. If nothing else I think I'd learn a hell of a lot just by visiting Alicesoft and Lilith and studios like them and absorbing what they already know.
Guys, I'm developing a game and I made a little tech demo to show the map and the dialogue, here's the link: https://mega.nz/#!qcAzHLAZ!BdnmcAE98wF1IYFzxhhEFSk5zBsDssJkG7GBBU58fxY
- Game made in Unity3D.
- Portraits and NPCs arts made using Daz3D.
- Maps made using Tiled with assets from opengameart (some custom made).
- Game will be choice driven, your choices will impact the world around you.
A bit of the story (without spoilers):
You will follow Laura, a young woman who just came to the city to try a new life working as a model, her father only asked that she refrain from doing bad things. Living her entire life in her parents' farm, she is a bit naive and innocent, but will the city life change it or will she remain pure till the end?
The game will mainly feature:
- Blackmailing.
- Humiliation.
- Corruption.
I already have the basic systems done, like the player's scripts, collision, starting maps and the story is kind of written too, the next part will be adding the events per se.
I know the collisions are wonky, I'm just releasing this to make sure I didn't make anything pc crashing for others.
Some ss: http://www.loverslab.com/uploads/blog-0992979001463615894.png
http://www.loverslab.com/uploads/blog-0992979001463615894.png
>>584260
Forgot to say, press Z to interact.
>>584260
It all sounds pretty interesting, but I can't open these links.
http://www.loverslab.com/uploads/blog-0992979001463615894.png
http://www.loverslab.com/uploads/blog-0992979001463615894.png
![blog-0992979001463615894[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/6ek3TBg.png "blog-0992979001463615894[1].png")
>>584260
>http://www.loverslab.com/uploads/blog-0992979001463615894.png
m8, seriously, this is a fucking imageboard
>>584260
>The owner of this website (www.loverslab.com) does not allow hotlinking to that resource (/uploads/blog-0992979001463615894.png).
Come on.
>>584266
http://imgur.com/a/nHAlx
Use this.
>>584260
I hope there will be a lot of public use content for once. Insecure waifufags that can't bear the thought of their favorite lump of pixels not being theirs exclusively are ruining everything.
>>584255
then do weekly updates while explaining what u currently working on, dont go dark for months or blame 2 pic, im not saying it is simple im saying keep us in the loop
>>584292
I can write well enough, but I would mainly search for already written professional erotica to implement, I think it will put the writing in another level.
>>584318
>I would mainly search for already written professional erotica to implement
>implement
I like the way you think. You'll go far in this business.
>>584312
I don't do those things. It's really down to communication skills. I also try to do weekly updates.
>>584328
gratz, wish more people would adhere to a schedule,
or just stop setting times
or or just tell us what u have left, lol might have someone in the crowd that is experienced in it
NOXIAN NIGHTS UPDATE FUCKING WHEN???
>>584375
The day after you've given up hope on a new release and have become an hero out of despair.
Well, that's how I time my games releases. Not sure about Sierra Lee.
>>584375
By the end of the month, if everthing goes well.
These games are so obviously protected under the parody exception to US copyright law that the only reason there's even any debate is because all the companies know it and won't spend the resources, especially since Lucas went after the makers of Starballz and lost. Not much precedent. SR7 got burned because the similar art style, combined with the ripped name, gave DC lawyers enough cause to go to their bosses and say, "This could be confused as being our work." If you had porn parody people putting out "Star Wars: Episode XXX Whatever" AND they hired the same actors AND copied the cinematography, musical score style, etc. then they'd be in the same boat. The thing is, it's so relatively easy to make these games seem like the real deal as opposed to porn parodies with low budgets that can't hope to match Hollywood, it's really a different, smaller ballgame that we amateurs can actually play in. "Parody" doesn't have to be satire. It can be commentary on the sexuality of the characters, how they would react to an XXX situation, you can even throw in commentary on an alternate version of the universe. That's all protected under parody, as courts have thus far defined it.
And you know what? SR7 might have even been able to get away with not changing a thing, in the legal sense. If they actually took him to court, the judge still might decide that no reasonable person would expect that a company that makes fucking Hollywood movies would risk their reputation by making a cheap porn game, even with the name and art style. AND if DC got past the judge, then they'd have to get past a jury.
The only thing I'm worried about is Patreon giving me an ultimatum because they don't want to be known for protecting porn. What a hassle.
>>584006
>>584031
mfw the russian cracked version works without a hitch
>>584383
You don't have to worry about Patreon protecting porn, I've talked to the people who work at the company; they are absolutely pro hentai and are committed as hell to making sure it has a home on Patreon.
(The exception of course, being when they have no legal out and are literally slapped with a C&D by companies.)
Also, laws change. Again, as hentai becomes mainstream, since hentai can reasonably approach "looking just like the source content" more than a real life porn parody ever could, I wouldn't be surprised if laws come into place to prevent stuff that would normally be labeled as parody for hentai, to not be able to use that rule.
I mean, with SR7, his art style was nearly IDENTICAL to the real deal. There were small differences here and there, but for someone uninformed googling the characters, in a court, a person could reasonably say that there is a possibility that this stuff was drawn by the original artists (especially considering that the artist for the Batman 90's animated series literally did draw NSFW stuff of those characters).
Whether it would actually win/lose in court or not, who knows, but I think hentai gets handled a bit differently due to that above reason than IRL porn parodies do.
>>584380
>It's talentless non-achievers are desperately clinging to Sierra Lee's success episode.
Stop wasting all your time on 4chan you fucking hack.
>>584412
>Stop wasting all your time on 4chan you fucking hack.
Never! I'll shitpost until the end of the century!
I will say I think Sierra Lee is pretty cool. Never played any of her games but I do enjoy the few times we've been able to chat. Seems pretty chill.
>>583915
Speaking of which, how the fuck is he making that much? He barely updates, the animations aren't that great and it's hard on fetishes not a lot of people like.
>>584423
I dunno. How am I making what I do? We make about the same amount of dosh. I'll chalk it up to black magic.
>>584423
it does tap into the one target group that for some inexplicable reason has near endless reserves of money to throw at internet porn. goddamn furries.
[spoiler]>yfw Janet Yellen is a furfag[/spoiler]
>>584429
>2k is almost the same as 35k
Maybe furrybucks?
>>584429
Instead of crying, consider making actually good porn instead of vanilla shit with purple eyes.
>>584429
Pretty sure he was talking about the Breeding Season guys.
What do you guys think of:
>Elven Conquest
>You're a general who just conquered the Elven people
>You're left to govern the region by your king as a reward for your services
>You can train the Elven queen into doing all sorts of vile acts, including public humiliation and forcing her to pass Sex laws
It's still pretty vanilla but I've got a lot of work done on it so far.
>>584453
Not too bad as a premise. What kind of game, though?
>>584445
Don't change the topic, I want to know how is breedingseason that much, I don't mind about it, good for the guy, but I want to know why, are furryfags really an unlimited source of money?
>>584453
Add monsters and bestiality pham and you're going to swim in patreon bucks.
>>584455
[spoiler]Twine
>>584375
The end of the month or I kill myself
>>584444
Oh sorry, thought someone was quoting the Sierra Lee post. My answer will remain black magic though.
>>584445
I refuse. Purple eyes are love. Purple eyes are life. Actually let's just make everything purple. Purple is a great color.
>>584453
>elves aka purebred cumdumpsters
>humiliating and subduing a high-status woman
works for me
>>583713
Fuck do I do in this game. So far I've powered up the area you start in. Do I need to just power up those B-20 doors in the south? I can only do that with 3 wires
Well shoot me, I sitting here and trying to pass time with these RPGmaker games with varied degree of uncanny valley.
Just played the this game through called "The Imaginarium" and when i was checking to see if there was a update there was.
So do any of you have the version 0.5? the ones on kickass is just 0.4
>>584462
I could stop wanking for 10 years and a concrete wall would still be more enticing than this shit.
>>584453
You could make it so you can train other Elves too, Elves being raped isn't anything new.
Remember to add futa, furry and dark skin, people love that :^)
>>584456
>are furryfags really an unlimited source of money
yes.
>>584453
Sounds great, but an idea is just that. Can you draw or write?
>>584453
Preview pics?
>>584467
>>584483
How does one mind control concrete
>>584483
'Epic' and probably your most creative contribution to this general. Let's see if you'll ever reach these 'heights' again.
>>584483
Jesus fucking Christ, my body wasn't ready for this!
wasn't there a new porn crowdfunding website after offbeatr?
I'm trying to get into James room in Sister secrets, but I am stuck. What shall I do?
>>584406
Right. Not convinced at all that a judge/jury would rule that way, but sure they could. Then you could appeal it. I'm more concerned about the fair use of intellectual property regarding characters and names rather than style. Because at what point is the distinction made between a reasonable expectation of the original holder's involvement and the actual reality? If I release my game as "Korra Trainer" and Nick/that game studio that made the fighting game claim it could be confused with the practice mode or whatever, will Patreon protect me? What if they take offense to me simply using the characters rather than absurd versions called "Cora" or somesuch? It's a slippery slope. I think that SR7 absolutely had the right to call his game "Injustice" and use the art style, because a reasonable person could be expected to do a cursory search about the project if they had reservations that would cause them to discriminate against DC and easily discover that DC had no involvement! Even if they didn't, the effect on DC profits would be so miniscule that the public interest in Injustice would easily outweigh the loss, and that person could not be expected to be inclined to spend a large amount of money on DC products in the first place. Patreon had the opportunity to make that case and start settling this for everyone, but they didn't. Why? They're happy enough to take my team's money donated by interested fans until we become too successful and get noticed? So where DO they draw the line when they get the next DMCA?
>incubus and succubus are the same.
alright then, mithos.
>>584513
If you end up going to court against a major corporation you've already lost. None of us really have the money to fight those battles. While we can fight off random fake DMCA's (and I retain some money for that specific purpose) you don't want to try and fight Disney. Any victory would be a Phyrric one at best.
>>584518
They would take sperm from men as succubi and then ejaculate it into women as incubi.
>>584522
Hey man, somebody's got to be the Larry Flynn of the Western H-game scene.
>>584518
succubus_(male)
>>584532
ARGHGHGHG
>>584110
No characters have been removed. Characters who have not been unlocked should not appear in the save file
>>584513
Patreon is not going to protect you because doing "parodies" of pre-existing characters to the level of actually naming them after the characters is standing on extremely shaky legal ground already.
Patreon isn't your employer, they're a service, but even if they were your employer, there's only so much they can protect you against in regards to a risk/reward scenario.
Here's a not that great example; you're using a service (let's say, one of those rent-a-bikes that are in some cities) and the bike is advertised as brand new, and you pedal 5 feet down the road and the chain snaps, fucks your leg up, the bike collapses, and you go face first into the pavement. In a case like this, where you did absolutely nothing wrong, it's highly likely the company would stick its neck out to compensate you as the risk of NOT doing so would result in a ton of bad press and legal fees, and the reward OF doing so is not having the above happen at what is (likely) a minor cost to such a company.
Conversely, if you take their bike, ride it on the freeway into oncoming traffic while not grabbing the handlebars and shooting airsoft guns at said traffic, the company isn't going to cover your legal fees for all the shit you just did.
And again, this isn't even really that good of an example, because Patreon is a third party in this whole thing; your situation is with the company C&D'ing you, not Patreon itself. They have zero legal obligation to defend you, and to do so would be generally of no benefit to them.
(Also, the thing about "a reasonable person searching", no, that would never stand up in court. There's also something called "protecting depictions of your IP's", which basically means "we don't want you making drawings that look identical to our drawings that put our characters in situations we don't want them in which could influence some people's opinions of those characters", and that IS a defendable case, and it HAS won in court, many times, even for "parodies".)
>>584031
f1 then click fullscreen
>>584522
More like you hand a lawyer a big easy win, pick up more donations in support of the little guy, find something to counter-sue over, and get yourself a nice payday at the end along with all the publicity in the world. Dudes counter-sued Lucas for $140mil over libel. Shit, I hope Nick sues me. A company singling out an individual over a parody work? You'd unquestionably be able to find someone who would work pro bono or at least work on contigency. Punitive damages for emotional distress right there for starters.
But they'll go after Patreon, which should have the resources to put up a fight. Given that the case promotes the public interest, the judge would almost certainly shift the attorney fees onto the plaintiff.
>>584575
That isn't how the American legal system works. You'll go bankrupt long before it actually gets to court even if you've got a surefire case. Corporations with armies of lawyers can drag out even simple cases for years or even decades and they're perfectly aware that you cannot.
Don't pick fights you can't win.
>>584513
Didn't have enough room in the last post, so I had to comment on this last line. This post is gonna seem harsh, but it's reality, like it or not.
>Patreon had the opportunity to make that case and start settling this for everyone, but they didn't. Why?
Because there is no winning that case, period, for the reasons I just gave. Something with less of a representation of the art style/characters etc. yes, but no, not something like Injustice.
> They're happy enough to take my team's money donated by interested fans until we become too successful and get noticed?
Patreon takes like 10-15% of your income, tops, and in return, they give you the ONLY actually viable site on the internet for westerners to make a decent profit on hentai games with practically NO restrictions on content (or quality of content) besides loli/shota.
(DLSite is cumbersome for westerners and takes 40-60% of profits and makes you censor stuff on both ENG and JPN ones, Nutaku/MangaGamer/JAST is basically invite-only right now and only for high quality stuff, etc.)
The amount of money they get from your game is peanuts compared to the tens of thousands it would take to fight an un-winnable legal battle in most cases, and for what? So they can continue to get a few hundred bucks a month off of your campaign?
Not to mention that Patreon only is able to have this service BECAUSE they obey these companies; if they didn't, all it would take is one pissed off company to sue the site into oblivion, and the whole thing comes crashing down for almost all the h-devs in the west out there.
Any other large company that provides a service that allows you to put up content on it has the same regulations; obey these huge companies or get sued into oblivion by teams of thousands of lawyers, those are the only two viable choices.
Was is released yet ?
>>584575
You're such an incredibly optimistic person, KorraGuy.
I really don't see how making that much money off someone else's work without their permission is ethical or even legal.
Like go make your own creations, I'd be pretty damn pissed if some guy was making bank off a porn game and be safe because it's "parody".
>>584594
Is this nigga serious?
>>584598
I wish a nigga would.
>/weg/ has become a multi tripfag blog
Western porn games was a mistake.
>>584585
>Was something funded on patreon released on time?
take a wild guess
>>584575
Damn, what country do you live in? I want to see that legal system.
>>584616
Fuck off tropic.
>>584616
build a filter to keep out the tripfags
>>584625
>every contrarian opinon is tropic
This is a dumb meme
not everyone gives a shit about the hug box of creator dick sucking
>>584625
Please don't bully tropic. He's a very delicate person.
>>583717
Sister's Secret hasn't been updated in a long time, right? Still no threesome?
>>584644
A long, long time.
Anyone found a good ending in new bend or break version ?
>>584575
Its a nice thought, and if this was 20-30 years ago, you would be right. But in the USA, IP laws are so fucking one-sided that it isn't even funny anymore, and parody laws have been getting their balls cut off recently. What is it? "60 years after death" for the length of a copyright and 30yrs for a patent now? And with Corporations now considered 'people' in the legal definition, if a corporation owns an IP, they maintain it rights to like a person would.
Even if you have a "textbook win" case, they'll just drag it out with legal bullshitting and maneuvering until you can no longer afford to fight and just have to give in to their demands.
>>584627
AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE PATREON PAY FOR IT!
>>584585
>"today"
Yeah, that won't be up for the next coming week, as expected from patreon.
>>584652
>Corporations now considered 'people' in the legal definition
Just FYI, corporations have been considered "people" since their inception. That was one of the big reasons the concept of a corporation was invented, because only people can own property, but governments wanted companies to own things even if the company's owner died.
>>584044
Change the RGSS version from 301 to 300 in the ini file or vice versa.
>>584174
Post the doc later with my rough Idea.
>>584383
I have a question for you.
>>584662
Got it working.
>>584696
Course, since very edit you do to the file changes it back to the original format.
>>584581
Alright, alright, so SR7 had it coming. I guess that gets into trademark infringement territory. I was wrong.
But I do think Patreon should fight for parody cases that they can win, if it comes to that. Free speech is on the line here, after all. Lawyers love that shit. I know they're not legally obliged to do anything for me and my team, but I still have that moral expectation of them, especially since they love promoting themselves as very friendly friends. It's really more about the fans who have invested all this energy in using the Patreon platform, isn't it? Less about my right to make a buck and more about their rights to see the product. They're the ones paying Patreon, not me. That's a clear demonstration of the protection of the parody work being in the public interest. They're based in California, so...
>Private Attorney General Act (PAGA)
>Plaintiffs’ attorneys also claims fees under California Code of Civil Procedure section 1021.5, which permits them to recover fees if the case “resulted in the enforcement of an important right affecting the public interest” if certain requirements are satisfied.
Requirements confuse me, though. Not a lawuer. Done talking about all this for now though. Hope it all works out
>>584589
Refreshing, isn't it?
I like the part of the movie when Edward Norton meets Woody Harrelson in prison and gets told one word.
>>584736
>Refreshing, isn't it?
I'll always take a happy retard over a sad one.
I just inherited 2.5 Million Dollaridos and I'm seriously considering to kill myself and then grant the money to a fund for porn game financing.
My life is a mess. Sad!
>>584736
K Trainerfan think of it like this. At my house I can leave the toilet seat up all I want after I take a piss. But at someone else's house I do the same and I'm never invited back. Play in someone else's yard you play by there rules or get kicked out. Also WB pays for a third party to hand out c&d's who doesn't give a shit other than you fit in a filter and now you're a billable hour for them. Our biggest fault was having an image forward facing and naming it a trademarked name (in the same source material). Our last mistake was using Patreon as a delivery platform. You got nothing to worry about, do what you do.
>>584736
>Free speech is on the line here, after all.
No, dumbass, it isn't. Jesus fuck, what are you 12?
"Free speech" is your right to not be persecuted by the government for your beliefs and statements. It has JACK FUCKING SHIT to do with profits and lawsuits between private parties.
Can you just go back to "stg - gay panic general" already?
>>584781
>Not spending that on a real life loli harem
>>584781
Fund RPG maker games with DAZ 3D "art", but only the bad ones!
>>584809
>Also WB pays for a third party to hand out c&d's who doesn't give a shit
They literally have to.
If you don't aggressively defend your copyrights and trademarks you lose them.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark
>intellectual property rights in the trademark may be lost and competitors enabled to use the genericized trademark to describe their similar products, unless the owner of an affected trademark works sufficiently to correct and prevent such broad use.
What morons like TrainerFaggot don't understand is that large corporations absolutely cannot stand by when they notice some unauthorized entity is using their properties. They risk losing those properties forever if they don't aggressively prevent it.
Even if you lose expensive, lengthy copywright and trademark battles, as a corporation you have to fight those battles, because otherwise you can't establish that you vigorously defended your IP when others tried to take it.
I'm sure you know all this, but it's important to stress they aren't doing it to be dicks or to waste money, if they can't prove they actively defend their IP, they lose it.
>>584833
All this said of course they largely don't give a damn about people on our level. It's a tossup as to whether or not they'll go after you. Ironically they're unlikely to care unless you become wildly successful. Akabur doesn't seem to have gotten bitchslapped by Disney for instance in spite of his success.
What it really means is that porn "parodies" that are basically exact depictions of characters from existing media are a gamble more than anything else. A fairly safe one on the whole but it is not without risk.
Personally I'd love to know how Zone manages to get by without being sued a million bajillion times.
>>584844
To answer both your questions;
- For Akabur, AFAIK he doesn't live in the west, he lives in like Russia or something (I could be wrong), but if he does, then copyright gets to get pretty ignored since copyright generally has to be enforced in the country of the person violating copyright.
This is why so many Japanese clothing brands (and doujinshi), for instance, can get away with insane levels of copyright infringement, because the country has really piss-poor copyright laws for this stuff, and the country itself takes kind of a "look the other way" stance on a lot of that stuff.
So if some American company was pissed about what some Japanese company was doing, they'd likely have a harder time actually suing them/winning a case.
- For Zone, the classic "too popular to fuck with, better to ally with" clause comes into play. Essentially, there's three places you can be in terms of popularity with anything; "Barely popular", "Pretty popular", and "Really fucking popular".
The people who are "barely popular" are as you said, so minor that they're ignored by most companies.
The people who are "really fucking popular" have such market exposure that instead of causing insane levels of drama and bad reputation by going after these people who will have legions upon legions of fans destroying your brand's good reputation, it's much more beneficial to work WITH them to get on their good side and/or come to a compromise. (Zone's Teen Titans flash is the #1 most viewed Newgrounds *anything* of all time, last I checked, could have changed by now.)
And if you're in the middle as "pretty popular"? This is where the danger zone is, because now you're popular enough to influence popular opinion/views on something, but not popular enough to be worth partnering with, so it's this group that gets obliterated by copyright C&Ds left and right.
>>584844
You can't be sued if you don't do a shit.
>>584860
Yeah, I was gonna bring up Russia but I figure that if Disney really wanted to take it down they'd go to Patreon directly and not worry about where he lives. It's an American company in the end.
>>584844
>All this said of course they largely don't give a damn about people on our level.
They largely don't give a damn on any level. It's just business, often outsourced to 3rd party legal defense contractors. "Go defend our IPs, here's 10 million a year." Would WB give a shit if for some crazy reason Superman showed up in the next Avengers movie? Yes. As in they'd file a C&D, take Disney to court, sue for damages/profits, etc. And they'd yawn while doing it.
>Akabur doesn't seem to have gotten
Akabur received some attention from WB back when he was calling witch trainer "Hermione Trainer." A simple name change took the heat off, or WB would have hit Patreon with a C&D on the name. Akabur went further and made sure many of the other potter specific names were misspelled as well.
>"parodies" that are basically exact depictions of characters from existing media are a gamble
When you specifically set out to profit off of property owned by another entity, you should expect a certain amount of risk. Legally, any time you represent another person's work you can create "confusion" among consumers, and there's where most corporations get interested. They don't "care" about parodies, they "care" when their customers see your product/services and think it's genuine/authentic.
SR7's biggest problem was in the realm of "confusion." Being too good of an imitation makes your parody harder to defend. And yes, that's a risk Zone runs into often.
>>584873
Murika can threat you but they can't do nothing unless your local authorities cooperate with them, so if they can't directly blame Patreon for it then it shouldn't be a problem.
>>584874
>Akabur went further and made sure many of the other potter specific names were misspelled as well.
I'm pretty sure that's just him being russian.
>>584781
Use your inheritance to hand out small loans to 2 developers of your choosing and spend the remaining 500k on a mail-order bride.
>>584873
True, they could go directly after Patreon, but it likely wouldn't stop him from just distributing somewhere else, and it's likely that large corporations that would sue for this stuff aren't too "in the know" about the western h-game scene (in regards to where it's distributed and how and why and etc.)
>>584932
Strictly speaking I think part of it is Akabur has a variety of projects so his patreon amounts to "Akabur doing stuff." That some of that stuff is IP theft applies less because it's diffused.
>>583973
dont pay upfront and fire them if they miss the deadline once and dont pay them a cent
>>584191
im shocked
>>584736
if you think patron has the muscle or the money to stand up and actually win in court against disney or warner brothers you are insane.
They know that and thats why they wont go after them
>>584957
hell im noticing these generals are getting fewer posts and are dying, and of course that is what is happening because all those " akabur wannabes cant finish anything.
>/weg/
Western copyright education and legal advisement general.
>>584994
>hell im noticing these generals are getting fewer posts and are dying, and of course that is what is happening because all those " akabur wannabes cant finish anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seVdI6FGjk0
>>584994
>akabur wannabes cant finish anything.
Finish?
These fuckers have barely started. Well, they all started their Patreons months and months ago, so the important part of their game is finished.
https://mega.nz/#!sIhmgTDC!bW41rvxXKDNPNiy7ynU0ZoDADSE6AE5mcNrbLz56m8I
Library Story out my friends
>>585139
curious what in game passwords will add
>>585139
wtf why does the game have a 22 day limti
>>585139
What am i supposed to even be doing in this game.
>>584833
This is also why restaurants ask "Pepsi ok?" when you ask for "a Coke". Coca-Cola and Pepsi both respect each other's trademarks. If a restaurant has a contract with Pepsi for soft drinks, they are required to clarify to their customers that it is a Pepsi product. Technically, Coca-Cola does the same - but when was the last time you heard someone say "Coke ok?" when asked for a Pepsi?
If they don't adhere to that requirement, then (in the case of Pepsi drinks) Coca-Cola brings legal action against the restaurants. But this is usually 'mild'. Coca-Cola usually just issues a C&D for first offense, second offenses actually get the courts involved. But they're not stupid. They go after minor damages (think 'double digits'), and usually pick up all the legal fees. They only lose if they attack their customer base, especially when they only want to protect their trademark (because they have to).
Source: I worked a "Pepsi" restaurant that got hit with legal action after a C&D (dumbass server would never ask "Pepsi ok?" because she thought it was "stupid"). Coca-Cola got $99, paid for all legal fees, and afterwards paid for 6mo of the store's contract with Pepsi.
tl;dr - the entire IP system is pretty fucked up, and needs to be burned to the ground and built back up for the digital age. But that will never happen.
>>585139
Is there a way to remove the countdown?
>>585328
I don't get it. So, you walk into a restaurant and say you want a coke. They don't stock cokes though, since they're Pepsi shits. So, they refuse to sell you their non-existent coke and instead ask if Pepsi will do instead?
Do customers ever say it fucking won't and walk out?
>>585424
They might change their order. I know some people who like Coke, but can't stand Pepsi and visa-versa.
>>585424
They have to ask. It's part of the contract they sign combined with the IP holder's need to keep their brand from becoming generic and therefore worth less.
>>584278
Cuck detected.
>>585139
Did I fuck up or is there just a blocking point with Belle? I sold her every book I could that didn't have a requirement and didn't get enough corruption by the end of it to suggest anything beyond that.
>>585472
if you make enough gold you can just give her gifts and she will forget all about the stuff u did to her,
also, explore, ive seen 3 women so far, trying to figure out the red head
>>585139
well, one password is "silver bullet"
give u a one use silver arrow.
and some armor that makes you look chinese
>>585424
It's a stupid system, but I know if I asked for a coke and got a pepsi I'd be fucking pissed.
If they have pepsi they have Mountain dew and I'd rather have that. When you ask for a beef taco, and they don't have it they don't just give you a chicken one, they ask if a chicken one is okay.
Plus in customer service you never say 'we don't have that.', you have to provide a customer with something to say yes or no. Customers are the stupidest fucking people, so you have to prompt them otherwise they'll BSOD if you don't ask them a question.
With all that rot: Does Library story have any porn in it yet?
I was just reading about Overwatch today and stumbled on this;
http://www.smcarthurlaw.com/blizzard-settles-overwatch-trademark-lawsuit/
This is a shining example of just how powerful large companies are when it comes to basically saying "fuck the law". The other company (Innovis) registered the trademark for Overwatch a full year before Blizzard announced Overwatch.
Both "Overwatch" products were video games, and the courts even outright sided with Innovis to award them the copyright name, and blocked Blizzard from using it.
Despite this, Blizzard basically A) swarmed Innovis with legal pressure with a team of lawyers, and/or B) dumped truckloads of money on their head to get them to give up the name for their use.
Back in caveman days, might made right; despite all of our "increases in civility" and so forth in culture, the same law still applies, but now instead of PHYSICAL might, it's LEGAL (or political, or financial, etc.) might that makes right. Trying to fight large companies at this point is just going to end in disaster, it's a waste of time and a waste of efforts.
I mean, we're making headway into making hentai games in the west more mainstream, more acceptable culturally, and more plausible as a business (therefore more games with higher quality will come out as time goes on); these are good things for everyone, and really what we should be focusing on instead of trying to "fight the man", etc.
New attack animation and some UI additions/crafting started, been working on and off on this throughout the day.. Going to bed lol.
>>585504
The thieves drop password X1wZdr15
>>585633
>X1wZdr15
That password says "Available for LS v 0.8"
>>585578
So far you might get to see the Beast rape Emma in the woods.
>>584483
literally better than all of tropic's comebacks combined.
>>585610
>This is a shining example of just how powerful large companies are when it comes to basically saying "fuck the law".
You need to calm the fuck down, bernout.
By the article you linked, Innovis signed a co-existence contract, then decided to sue blizzard afterward. That's not a company "basically saying fuck the law," thats some company (not Blizzard) breaking a contract because they decided they didn't like the terms AFTER they signed it.
And as you point out, what probably happened is that Blizzard dumped a shitton of money on them to get them to settle and gtfo.
How is that proof "might makes right?" This tiny paintball app probably soaked blizzard for six digits or more over patenting the word "overwatch" less than a year before blizzard did. If anything, "fast made right" in this instance. And filing patents before the big and "mighty" is something everyone can do.
If you're going to shit up this thread, maybe you should try being HentaiREADER for a change.
>>585658
might has always made right...
>>585664
except when it doesn't.
>>585139
I didn't expect anything and I'm still disappointed.
>>585424
You're maybe American so can't tell the difference, but Pepsi is really inferior to Coca-Cola in other countries, so yes I have walked out of restaurants because they were pepsifags.
>>585139
So can you actually do anything in this version? Because it seems like the stat changes don't really matter--they don't open up any new options or result in different outcomes for the old options
(I got Belle's corruption to around 150 and submission to -35 or so and didn't see any difference)
Also, are there more encounters with the redheaded chick after you catch her or is that it for now?
>>585637
Yeah, it doesn't do anything in this version.
>>585655
Can you beat him? I've been trying with 200 hunt and can barely even get halfway.
>>585627
Still nice.
>>585658
Did you read the part where the legal system actually ruled in favor of Innovis? I'm thinking somehow you're misunderstanding my post.
It doesn't matter about who filed the patent first, was my entire point; Blizzard came in with its "might" and was able to ignore whoever filed it first, able to ignore what the courts ruled, so forth, by just swinging their lawyers/financial situation around.
Is it me or does breaking into Belles room make her change the lock no matter what?
I've tried just entering then exiting, Ive stolen everything or stolen nothing, Ive set everything right or left her place a mess, it all leads the same.
With max hunting,
>>585718
yup.need to wait till v0.8
>>585697
>Did you read the part where the legal system actually ruled in favor of Innovis?
This never happened. Are you plain illiterate or just pretending?
Here's the things that happened from the article:
1. September 2013, Innovis’s applies for a trademark on "Overwatch"
2. April 1, 2014, Blizzard filed for trademark for its new game, Overwatch.
3. July 30, 2014, Blizzard got Innovis to sign a co-existence agreement
>Blizzard probably paid them to sign it. And probably paid anyone else using any other variant of "overwatch" to sign one as well.
4. January 2015, USPTO suspended Blizzard's trademark application
>"Suspended." Which is to be expected since Innovis filed for it first.
5. May 28, 2015, Innovis sued Blizzard for trademark infringement, seeking a "permanent" injunction
>THIS LAWSUIT WAS NEVER DECIDED
6. October 13, 2015 the parties file to settle
>seriously, read the date on the settlement
7. October 20, 2015, the USPTO issued Innovis a final certificate of registration.
>Up to this point, Innovis hadn't received their trademark. They (like Blizzard) had only applied for a trademark, it was at this point it was actually registered to them.
8. October 21, 2015, Innovis filed to surrender its registered Overwatch trademark.
>A week after they filed to settle, Innovis was awarded their trademark. The very next day they filed to surrender it. At that time Blizzard's suspension was probably lifted.
8. March 1, 2016 Blizzard is awarded the registered trademark "Overwatch" by the USPTO
The legal system never actually ruled in favor of Innovis. In this case it was specifically important who filed for the patent first. Blizzard came in with it's "might" and was jerked around by whoever filed first (Innovis). Eventually, they paid the right people the right amount of money and Innovis surrendered the trademark the day after it was awarded to them.
I know you have a hateboner for "large corporations" but you have to actually read the facts, first.
>>585687
yes, need Dog follower and need to use "silver arrow" password
upgrade ur sword to 150 one
load silver arrow
save before going into deep part of woods and play the RNG game
>>585730
Not actually having a hateboner for large corporations at all, Patreon's gotten pretty large and I think it's doing just fine. (Used to work for a few large corporations that were fine companies, also.)
Saying factually that large corporations have the ability to hammer you with lawyers and financial clout does not mean you hate them, etc.
As for the legal stuff, yeah, I'll admit I read that wrong, the way the article puts it down is a bit oddly structured, that coupled with me reading it at about 2AM at night didn't help my understanding of it either, so yeah, you're right in this case.
Doesn't change the fact that corporations have the financial/legal clout to "ignore the rules" as it were, haha.
Can you make the love potion is this version? I got the supplies but tinker just says "get me those supplies". The fuck?
>>585743
>Can you do anything is this version?
Take a wild fucking guess.
>>584406
>especially considering that the artist for the Batman 90's animated series literally did draw NSFW stuff of those characters
Where I can find this?
>>585739
>Doesn't change the fact that corporations have the financial/legal clout to "ignore the rules" as it were,
No one has enough clout to "ignore the rules."
Large corporations have more law resources available to them than smaller entities such as small businesses or individuals. It would make literally no sense if this wasn't true.
But they also become much larger targets for litigation as well. Particularly in the United States, everyone sees lawsuits as a way to easy money.
Large corporations like McDonald's and Walmart are under suit perpetually. Most doctors cannot even legally practice medicine without expensive malpractice (lawsuit) insurance due to its frequency in that industry.
We live in a litigious society, everyone is ready to sue everyone else at the drop of a hat. Large corporations are just "better armed" as it were. And yes, some of the completely legal techniques available to them are downright dastardly. At no point are they using their clout to do anything you could not, they can just do it on a much larger scale with indifference to the costs.
And yes, anyone expecting to defend themselves in a Fair Use suit brought by a major entertainment corporation is braindead.
>>585761
which is why i said "as it were", and yes, large corporations are under suit perpetually, but do those suits actually damage the company's income or status whatsoever like they would a smaller company? No, and this is what I mean by "ignoring the rules" :P
>>585756
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/401565/fe7f464e93/
and
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/571588/764793b346/
Ch.1 of Aylia's Story should be released any day now, this is good.
>>585775
Just like a year ago.
>>585777
I have faith this time
>>585778
Me too. Me too.
Probably the only western erotic game worth anything now that the Huniepop dev has gone full retard and the Elania Spaniards are still struggling with English dictionaries.
Anyone got a dl for the patreon version of Enrollin in Coleman?
>>584406
>>585756
This is why Injustice Unlimited is a great parody game because you just KNOW they banged all the time.
Why is fighting the bandits such a piece of shit. Armor or not you get hit to 133 hp before you start your turn, even with the best weapons and 2-- hunting you still cant do shit for damage. No healing, the fuck.
>>584453
Premise is great.
Throw in some good art, enough to do ingame (quests/story/etc), a nice variation of girls and scenes and you've got yourself a winner.
>>584781
Donate the money to porn creators you like, enjoy their finished works and THEN kill yourself.
Gotta get the order just right.
>>584781
Make your family do it by putting it in your will that you want the money dedicated to porn games. Just imagine their fucking faces when they realize.
>>584781
Heeeeeelp
>>584260
I love the theme, and the art isn't half bad.
Best of luck!
>>584833
You're confusing copyright with trademark.
You can lose exclusive rights to a trademark through inaction, which is called abandonment. An example of this would be Injustice. If they didn't take action, then they would lose rights to the name. The rule here is, if a consumer could become confused about the original owner's involvement, then that's a problem.
You cannot lose exclusive rights to a copyright through inaction. An example of this would be Princess Trainer. Disney would not lose the exclusive right to make Aladdin products for market sale. If it's obvious that the original owner had no involvement, then there's no problem.
There are only three ways you can lose a copyright: legal sale or transfer, agreeing that the company you work for comes into ownership of creative content you produce for them ("work for hire"), and the systemic guarantee of entry into the public domain for all content in which copyright is lost after X amount of years, depending on certain conditions, although it used to be 70.
Where is gets tricky is how much incorporation of style and names into the meat counts as trademark or copyright infringement. There's not a lot of precedent for this stuff in America and what little there is can be contradictory.
Alright, I'll shut up now. Thank goodness, amirite?
>>584781
Why don't you just take .5 mill and fund like 10-20 Hentai games, then spend 1 mil on a kick ass house with a big ole computer. Then Bank/live off the rest.
>>584781
>Donate money to your favorite porn game devs
>buy a small nice apartmant or a small nice house
>nice computer
>Live off rest of the cash and invest it in some funds
>Literally play porn games and live comfy as fuck
You're in a dream position if this is real.
Just played that Officer Chole game twice.
Looks nice but it sucks to find out there is pretty much 0 content currently, and being good/bad at your job does nothing.
Any idea on how that game is progressing?
>>584781
Rule number 1, never take advice from strangers.
Rule number 2, when in doubt about anything, look for rule number 34.
>>585781
Yeah, so far it's the only project that actually makes me want to donate a buck for the guy.
>>584781
I've seen start up "indie" game companies get more than 2.5 Million and still fail miserably. Even that amount of money won't ensure anything nowadays.
>>585833
>If this is real
Come on anon
>>584483
I like it
>>585861
That's why I said "if this is real". Because I don't believe it.
Cmon anon-kun
On a unrelated note
Shortstack waifu trainer when?
