What is the best arc from a certain series?
Pic related.
Naruto: Chunin Exam - probably my favorite tournament showcasing how great the side characters are instead of other tournament arcs where only the main character and antagonist really have importance
One Piece: Alabasta - people will argue that Arlong Park/Skypeia/Eneis Lobby/Marineford are the best but this one is the one that combined the world-building raising of stakes elements of the latter arcs with the self-contained crisis of the former ones best of both world
Dragon Ball: RR arc - Another best of both worlds it has everything that anyone liked of DB that other arcs had some but not all. Want dramatic action sequences? RR had that. Light-hearted gag humor? RR had that too. New likable characters? RR, Old characters being useful? RR. Dynamic fighting where MC has to change his strategies? Power-leveling where the MC goes and curb-stomps his enemy? Hell the series even has great anime filler of Goku just traveling the world having adventures (that actually fits with the manga's timeline). RR basically is everything DB is, was, and will be.
Bleach: First arc - the first and the SS arc are basically the SMB3 and SMW for me. Though I liked the SS more I have to admit that it's a major step down from the first arc. It kinda felt like what battle shounen probably should've been. The next step after the DB clones where it's directed by the likability of the characters rather than the power-ups and powerlevels which Bleach became in the end. Would've liked a self-contained story where Fisher was the main antagonist at the end
HxH: Chimera ant arc - kinda a toss up between this and York New arc, York New was probably better in terms of stakes and characters but the creativity of this arc influenced my decision too much. An arc all about what it means to be human. Xenomorphic races who "get stronger with every race they eat/assimilate" is a common sci-fi cliche nowadays, but since complex concepts like love, loyalty, compassion, family, etc are a bi-product of our intelligence and they take our intelligence in their assimilation then wouldn't they also take those concepts since it's hard to imagine one without the other. and of course Netero and Gon showing the darkside of humanity contrast to Mereum just getting used to the lighter sides of it ensues that HxH is not your typical battle shounen.
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>>140913052
>berserk
>not golden age arc
Step it up anon.
Pic related is best arc for ib.
The only good arc that is.
>>140917513
Golden Age is overrated as fuck.
Tower of Conviction is the absolute shit, and the most Berserk of all Berserk arcs.
>>140920212
The fuck is wrong with his arm?
>>140917513
>>140921071
Both of you have shit taste. Best is fucking Blackswordsman arc. Lonely suffering Guts with the heart of gold, Jill sidestory was great as hell.
>ib
Best arc is Yume/witch arc.
>>140921265
do you even lift?
>>140921372
His left arm looks so fucked compared to his right.
>>140921308
>Jill
That was the Lost Children arc anon. Black Swordsman is where guts meets puck.
>>140921071
>>140921308
>>140913052
You dont need to fight, you are all wrong anyway, truly the greatest.
can't decide between Vaan, Lafeyette, or Houtaro
>>140921471
Pretty sure Lost Children is included in Blackswordsman.
>>140921541
>Ive actually gotten something lodged in the cheek in an accident once
Hurts like hell. I couldn't even think. Guts is a fucking beast.
>>140921471
>>140921541
I looked it up. I was wrong. I guess they rolled in Lost Children with Conviction, well my answer is then:
Conviction arc, especially the first part that is Lost Children.
>>140921676
No Im pretty sure its:
Black Swordsman
Golden Age
Lost Children
Tower Of Conviction
Millenium Falcon
Fantasia
Boat Arc
Sea God
Boat Arc
Falconia
>>140921841
You are right, but somehow the Berserk wiki fold certain arc into a big one. Like the entire boat is the Sea God arc/Fantasia or whatever.
>>140921814
You sure anon? Im pretty sure Lost Children is its own thing, since its the first arc after the Golden arc flashback, crazy pope guy arc doesnt happen until several chapters later.
>>140922034
I know what you mean. When I read it they slapped the Lost Children tag on the chapter. But looking at the autistic people that do the wikis:
http://berserk.wikia.com/wiki/Conviction_Arc
Weird.
Hard modo:from a romance series
>>140922026
Just finished this
What read next
Osaka arc. Final arc was also pretty awesome when Cherry Boy when full Tetsuo.
>>140922181
Romance series usual have arcs as in new girls, or focus on said harem side girl. Is jarring and boring since only the main girl will win anyway.
Aku no Hana, the second half where the MC NTR the asshole to get best girl I guess, if I had to pick, but it was a coming of age story.
A pure romance pick would be Moteki, every fucking arc is 10/10 heart break, but the slut arc is the best.
>>140922270
What famous battle shounen haven't you read yet?
on my backlog there's still:
Jojo
Pokespec
the entire DB manga
and Trigun (it started as battle shounen so I count it)
>>140921617
The entire manga is a masterpiece of characterization.
>>140922346
Osaka arc was great for showing real despair, the fear of an overpowerful alien making mincemeat out of badasses. But it lacked Kurono, so it will never be at the top for me. Oni arc is when Gantz was at the top for me. Kurono being a real leader for the group, teaming up with everyone to fuck the lighting alien really made the series.
>>140922270
>HxH
>Finished
Anon I...
E-CARDO
E-CAAAARDO
>>140922376
I haven't read any manga in about three years. Idk why the urge to reread HxH came to me but it's a great ride.
I've read all you listed except Trigun.
>>140922346
How's the new manga by Gantz guy? I don't care what anyone says, I fucking loved Gantz.
Stagiaire arc. Not only was Souma based as fuck right out of it, i never imagined id love watching him interact with Hisako as much, the arc was truly good.
>>140922446
Finished as in I'm caught up. Fuck if I'm committing to a manga that'll get put on hiatus again before the end of the arc.
>>140922522
Entry level manga containing fighting and manliness include but are not limited to:berserk, vagabond, blame of the immortal, dorohedoro, shamo, terraformars, devilman, and baki.
>>140922539
Is a little slow, the new MCs (girl and a boy) haven´t shined yet, Nishi and fakenigger are the star players. The first mission are zoo animal aliens. But I will tell you this, is better than the last invasion arc. I like it enough to continue.
>>140922699
Thanks anon, guess I'll start it up tonight. Monthly right?
>>140922695
How the fuck is Berserk ,Vagabond, BoI and Dorohedoro entry level? And why the fuck would you recommend edge done wrong Shamo? Entry level should never be stuff that are hard to digest.
>>140922752
Yup, 6 chapters out and translated, chapter 6 just came some days ago. Funny thing, new MC is named Kei, and she is as autistic as Kurono was.
>>140922795
How aren't they entry level? They're good and show that manga as a medium is good. Some people like Shamo pal.
>>140922842
Man starting up on new mangas is such a mixed bag. I like getting actual discussion going but fuck me I hate waiting a month for a chapter. Makes pacing problems where there wouldn't be any.
The series has a bunch of good ones but the underground shelter arc was brutal
>>140922795
>How the fuck is Berserk ,Vagabond, BoI and Dorohedoro entry level
Good shit.get out
>>140922905
Just learn to hibernate and forget about series for extended periods of time.
>>140922994
I'm also tied between this arc and Nakama's for Bokurano. The second volume managed to have two of the best stories in the series.
>>140922858
They aren´t entry level because instead of making you hungry, they can make you lose your appetite for being too much too fast. You don´t go from watching Naruto to see a guy with a big sword fuck a demon women and then proceed to kill her, or the said guy being raped by a nigger some chapters later. You don´t go from watching HxH to reading about a girl being forced to watch her mother being raped by a gang of vagabonds. You don´t go from wacky One Piece to weird as hell Doro.
You take easy to digest, but fulfilling meals like Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer, GTO, D.Gray Man and so on. Then when you want more, you will find the real heavy good stuff.
The very first arc.
>>140923159
Stop being pretentious. Berserk is very entry level. Not entry level would be starting to read Junji Ito.
>>140923030
>Not knowing the meaning of entry level
Required/recommended read for people that are new to the hobby, because watching Wyald having fun with killing the father and fucking the mother and daughter to death is going to be a great start for a baby.
Berserk is a masterpiece, it should be read, but not as your first manga(s).
>>140923159
You underestimate the entry level reader's ability to enjoy quality works. If westerners can enjoy quentin tarantino they can enjoy berserk.
>>140923159
All of the 'hard to digest' manga you listed are easier to read than a fucking Kurt Vonnegut book. And that isn't saying much.
God I miss Beelzebub.
>>140923285
Are you trolling?
I suggest reading a book now and then.
>>140922539
>I don't care what anyone says, I fucking loved Gantz.
we all did anon, just not what gantz turned into
>>140923271
>Using the word wrong
Almost triggers me as much as people using the term projecting wrong. Stop being a little edgy faggot. Maybe you read and enjoyed Berserk when you were 12, good for you, but after years of recommending manga to friends and co-worker, I know the more heavy manga should be read later after you got the real basic good works done.
>>140923420
I liked it all the way through. It had hiccups and I liked certain points in the series a lot more than others but I enjoyed it start to finish.
>>140923386
Volleyball arc and the arc where Hilda loses her memory are also great.
>>140913052
Mosguz was such an awesome antagonist, and the apostles were super interesting. i think the only part that trumps this arc is the introduction of the berserk armor.
>>140923391
>Directing the discussion of manga to something else
>Trolling
Implying Berserk is not a masterpiece, you might as well kill yourself cross boarder.
>>140923444
Berserk is not heavy though. It's just more violent fun shounen manga.
>>140923627
not the guy you're replying to but I think most people would be put off by all the graphic violence and rape and never read anything else, so I have to agree it'd be a bad choice as an introduction
>>140923444
>after years of recommending manga to friends and co-worker, I know the more heavy manga should be read later after you got the real basic good works done.
>I know this but I have no argument or explanation
Fuck off please. I'd recommend Homunculus as someone's first manga, I'll just let them know in advance it's heavy.
>>140923834
You think wrong. TV shows and movies with graphic violence are demonstrably popular.
>>140922795
First day on /a/?
>>140923299
You´re missing the point here. People that have read Berserk, for a majority of them it was never their first manga. They read the real entry-level stuff, fucking Death Note, Naruto, Bleach on sites like Onemanga, magazines like SJ. After they got their fill of courage, friendship and hardwork, They consumed any random shit that they would find. That way, they get a taste of good and bad. How would you know what is good and what is bad if you never experienced any of it? There is a reason why a kid reads the kid stuff that runs in SJ, then when he gets older as a teen get to the series serialized in seinen magazines. You don´t fucking swim in the ocean when you haven´t tried the pond. Basic progression.
>>140923920
its different, for different media.
it would be too much
>>140923946
I'm just going to interject and say that Berserk was one of my first ten manga and my first seinen, and it didn't put me off at all. Also, you didn't seriously just label Death note as courage, friendship and hard work, did you? That shit's become entry level precisely because it appeals to teen edgelords.
>>140923627
>The Edge
Alright underage faggot, back to /v/. Berserk is published in Young Animal, is a seinen magazine, just so you know before you make another retarded post.
>>140923159
Anon, this is an 18+ site. We aren't talking about second-graders who are put off by blood here.
>>140923946
>How would you know what is good and what is bad if you never experienced any of it?
Because it makes you feel emotions?
>There is a reason why a kid reads the kid stuff that runs in SJ, then when he gets older as a teen get to the series serialized in seinen magazines
Because they're too young to appreciate the subject matter. There's nothing stopping them from reading seinen magazines other than their shit tastes.
>>140922459
That was fun as fuck and cool to play with friends.
>>140923834
People love GOT.
>>140923162
Only bad arc has been the last one
>>140923625
Berserk is definitely not a masterpiece mate.
>>140916051
The voice acting for young Robin is so fucking adorable.
>>140924009
I'd argue that 3D gore hits you in a much more visceral level than 2D gore.
>>140924080
Too bad it's only mature in its violence, which is exactly why I said what I said newfriend.
>>140923159
>You don´t go from watching Naruto to see a guy with a big sword fuck a demon women and then proceed to kill her, or the said guy being raped by a nigger some chapters later.
Yes, you absolutely do. I did. I know people who did. It's not unusual at all, violence is cool for people coming out of Naruto-type stuff, and they haven't experienced a lot yet so it all feels fresh and taboo.
>>140923920
and those people mostly have years of watching sitcoms and cop dramas and shit already, they aren't beginning to watch tv with deadwood or the wire or whatever
>>140924258
So why does experience with non-violent live-action supposedly translate into an acceptance of violent live-action, but not into an acceptance of violent manga? Like, this whole thing makes no sense to me. What logic is being used?
>>140924039
And as I said, if you read Berserk as a kid and enjoyed it, kudos to you I guess, is just not the norm. But Death Note showed that Light was wrong in the end, everyone worked together to take Light down, they could never have a guy killing people like flies win, not when it runs in SJ, and their motto is friendship courage and hard work, or something along those line.
>>140923859
Then you´re not a considerate individual, which is fine, since for all I know, you being a little fucker will never affect me. I´m just telling you the normal way to recommend people manga. You are free to act as you like. I just deem you to be kind of dumb.
![tumblr_nhwyn8jQp01u63lloo2_1280[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hpBgvqK.jpg "tumblr_nhwyn8jQp01u63lloo2_1280[1].jpg")
>>140924212
>Mature = Violence
Since you try so hard, have another (you).
>>140924322
>as a kid
I was sixteen, so that might count? Either way, being a kid isn't a prerequisite for entry level. People can get into anime later, and we're assuming the guy who started this whole thing is doing so and not a kid, since otherwise we'd be calling for mods to ban the underaged faggot.
JoJo parts count as arcs right?
>>140924322
>And as I said, if you read Berserk as a kid and enjoyed it
We aren't talking about kids, we're talking about 18+ people who won't break down into tears at the sight of some gore.
>Then you´re not a considerate individual
>I know I'll just keep asserting the same thing over and over and maybe they'll forget I'm full of shit
You've yet to prove anything, you're not a source of authority on the "normaly way to recommend people manga"
>>140924367
It's like you are missing the point of everything I say mate.
Good trolling.
>>140922459
>not PINZORO
>>140924219
>"I did"
>Ergo a lot of people did
>/a/ or my circle of friends is the majority
>"Fresh and taboo is fucking awesome DUDE"
Absolutely 100%, a post made from a immature little edgelord. Just to show you haven´t learned a thing from your "mature" Chinese picture books.
>>140924325
>tumblr
>>140922181
Hayate Athena arc.
>>140924317
because in north america comics/cartoons have mostly been seen as mediums for children and your typical adult who has never been exposed to anime/manga will go in with those expectations, meaning something adult storywise but not extreme is the better way to get them to adjust
>>140924492
After reading all your posts I'm slowly getting the impression that you think you have some sort of special tolerance to violence and gore because you're a special snowflake that browses the 4chans unlike those tender normalfags that need to be handled with kid gloves.
>>140924433
I have a hard time believing that every faggot on /a/ is 18+, unless you trust that an underage will turn back when he see the yes/no window. In this day and age with the ease of access to Internet, you can be arguing with a kid for all you know. I hope you´re right though.
And calm down, your first day here? You can just assume I put IMO at the end of my sentences, alright?
>>140922994
Definitely.
>>140923151
I don't think I can choose a favorite, but Daiichi's wouldn't be it. Nakama's is one of the great ones but there are too many, I can't decide.
>>140924219
It's almost bizarre to even see a person thinking Berserk is some high literature you need to "prepare" for. I've only seen this shit on MAL or something.
>>140924309
cant tell whats really going on, its shit
>>140924655
Oh I get it now you're an ebin troll. Took me a while to realize I admit you got me good there.
>>140924666
This sort of attitude is rampant nowadays, people thinking that everything they like is high-minded and difficult to appreciate.
Hey can someone help me.
What's that one part of Fist of the North Star where some guy points up into the sky?
>>140924447
>Trolling
There it is again, lurk more newfag. A little tip champ: I suggest you stop hiding behind old safe words if you want people to take you serious in the future.
>God Tier
Koyomi Vamp, Tsubasa Cat, Tsubasa Tiger, Hitagi End, Sodachi Lost
>High Tier
Hitagi Crab, Suruga Monkey, Karen Bee, Nadeko Medusa, Sodachi Riddle
>Good Tier
Mayoi Snail, Nadeko Snake, Tsukihi Phoenix, Shinobu Mail
>Okay Tier
Tsubasa Family, Suruga Devil, Yotsugi Doll, Ougi Formula
>Mediocre Tier
Mayoi Jiangshi, Shinobu Time
>>140924776
>lurk more newfag
>stop hiding behind old safe words
Priceless.
>>140924639
Not really. I still find dread in Uzumaki and Gyo. I still find Franken Fran´s gore to be disgusting and chilling, I´m not as hard of a badass as you. I´m just letting you know not everyone is used to gore and hardcore violence as you, but they can be, they can get more used to it, or at least accept it so that they can enjoy everything with it. But only if you ease them in.
>>140913052
Never has a city been fucked up so hard. The ooze demons in that arc were also the inspiration for aldritch in dark souls 3.
>>140924776
I suggest reading posts before replying.
>>140924901
That's not about manga, though - plenty of people are used to gore outside of manga, even at a young age. I also still don't see how reading Naruto is supposed to prep you for gore or something.
>>140924697
Right, running away now are we? Is fine, go back to your mature drawings now.
>>140924901
If you're a twenty something year old male and you have a friend or colleague the same age as you there's absolutely no reason to suspect that they can't handle a bit of violence. People consume media other than the manga you recommend to them, it's quite patronizing to assume they need to be "eased in".
HE TILTED THE WHOLE FUCKING BUILDING
>>140925001
>>140924968
its different. it will be held by different standards. gore in vidya, is different than in movies. anime, or even literature. same thing with sexuality
the only reason 50sog sold was because everyone was already a disgust sodomite degenerate, and it appealed to their already laid fantasies
>>140925110
I thought 50sog was straight, have I been living a lie?
>>140924985
It would be running away if you actually responded to anything I said. I'm still here waiting for you to explain why you (in your opinion) think that manga needs to be recommended in a certain order, which you keep asserting over and over.
>>140925110
It isn't different, you just want to make manga a special exception for no reason. Gore is gore, either you can tolerate it or you can't.
>>140925092
>>140925092
Kaiji was just perfect
>>140924968
Reading entry level manga is not suppose to prep you to find a character shoving his hand into someone´s ass and drag out the graphical detailed intestines while fucking his eye socket as paypack. Reading entry level manga is suppose to give you a thirst for more, a appreciation for reading/seeing something different. And now when said guy do find the manga where with the ass shoving, and eye fucking, he might appreciate that the author might try to convey how much anger the dude has. Instead of "oh wow, this is gross, haha, kind of stupid, is all manga this stupid and shock for shock´s sake?" and maybe, maybe instead go "Damn, I can understand why he did that, is disturbing, but I am fascinated".
tl;dr: Preps you to appreciate the more "mature" stuff
>>140925264
>this whole post
You have to either have autism or zero experience with media/cultue beyond manga. This is ridiculous.
>>140925264
>Reading entry level manga is suppose to give you a thirst for more, a appreciation for reading/seeing something different
Entry level manga is supposed to get you to see that manga is good, nothing else. If the manga with the ass shoving and eye fucking is really really good then there's no reason not to recommend it to someone who wants to read a good manga.
>>140925205
i can tolerate Conkers BFD, its funny
now watching Rambo was bad
i will even go as far as to say I shouldnt have seen Akira as young as I did. I didn't like it, and the mutation scene at the end was nightmarish
as an adult, I love Akira, and have been conditioned to other things
It doesnt really matter
>>140924968
>>140925001
>>140925205
not that guy but see my post here >>140924622
I disagree with him saying start with naruto but something like welcome to the nhk or planetes would be a ramp instead of a wall for them to hit
>>140925205
In case you don´t know, that is a different anon. Anyway, gore is not gore, that is narrow minded thinking. Maybe for you it is all the same. But a lot of people perceive gore depicted in different media differently. Seeing video game violence is not the same as real gore, nor drawn gore combined with words. Again, it might be for you, but don´t be nidicolous to think everyone have the same standard of tolerance for all the different kind of gore.
>>140925381
>entry level manga = manga for kids
Just stop posting. If you're not trolling the shit out of me there's no reason to drag this any longer.
>>140925415
Gore is perceived differently depending on the medium but ultimately the effect it has on your mind is the same. If you're immunized against level 7 movie gore then you're also immunized against level 7 video game gore (and probably 8 and 9 since video game gore has a weaker effect by comparison). This is what I meant by gore is gore, your tolerance level is the same because if you can handle brutal shit you can handle brutal shit, that's just your static personality.
Berserk is entry level. Akira is entry level. Vagabond is entry level. Fucking Elfen Lied was the entry point for some of the most insufferable thirteen-year-olds ever to grace weaboo-dom. Violence and gore are not particularly big barriers on a general level.
>>140925363
I don´t know you, but I can say that for a kid, Naruto was quite the good read. But you read Berserk at young age, so you´re a special case, praise to you. But again, for most people, Naruto was fucking great for a kid in my time, and it still is seeing kids still love it. So yeah, entry manga, Naruto, make you see manga as good.
And you´re without a doubt a retard. Even if I found ass shoving to be great, only a fucking retard would go and tell a fresh reader to go for it.
>>140924622
Is it hard to tell your friend using English words that manga has a broader range of audience and covers more genres compared to comic books?
>>140925426
no one even said that, except hardcore henry>>140925616
me telling you how I felt about Akira, was just real shit, and I wouldn't count it as entry despite hella people seeing it as kids due to its commercial appeal
I wouldn't have gotten berserk if I hadnt been conditioned to other things first. the rape that happensin the beginningis off putting, and can mentally "shame" guts from being "cool" to normies
like i said bro, it doesnt even matter
>>140925616
Maybe because Elfen Lied have cardboard characters that would die cartoon deaths? How competent violence is handled is what differs the works.
>>140925381
>>140925644
>normies
>bro
>hella
>non-/a/ pictures
You aren't making your opinion on what is and isn't entry-level seem particularly relevant.
>>140925705
>like i said bro, it doesnt even matter
>>140913052
No. The first one was the best. The last one is the one with best art.
>>140925621
I'm not the guy who read berserk as a kid, good job on your reading comprehension. Berserk was one of the first manga I read though, and I can tell you I had a blast reading it even with very little experience of the medium. Even despite all the darkness I had lot of fun and I would recommend it in a heart beat. If you were my friend and my age and you wanted to get into manga I would definitely not waste your time with Naruto.
>Even if I found ass shoving to be great, only a fucking retard would go and tell a fresh reader to go for it.
How would you know that? You know nothing about this hypothetical manga, it could be the greatest work of art of this generation. Think how good it has to be in order to contain ass shoving and still be great, why would there be a problem with recommending it to an adult friend, as long as you warn them that it contains graphic content?
>>140925748
>I said the discussion didn't matter, so I can be as much of a retard as I want!
The guy that have been talking about entry level for a hour here. Is time for me to head to work. I must say, I sometimes forget that this place is filled to the brim with basement dwelling mini edgelords. That is one of the few conclusion I can accept for how horrendous the quality of discussion that have taken place here. And the fact that I have taken you so seriously, that was dumb of me.
Just fucking get out more, interact with people more, alright? Have a great day.
And gore faggot, you need help. Also Naruto is great entry shit.
>>140925844
I have no idea which people you're referring to in any of the things you just said.
>>140925869
Me neither.
>>140925616
we're talking entry level for your typical adult, not weebkids that were inclined that way anyways
>>140925639
not at all and I mentioned in another post I'd go with something with a mature storyline but not extreme, I don't know what that guy is thinking saying fucking naruto
>>140925904
I don't even know what got people thinking that the hypothetical person you're recommending manga to is a kid.
I tend to enjoy every entry of a franchise equally, so I can't think of any that I've disliked or liked a lot more than the others. But if I had to pick, I'll say pic.
>>140924385
Yep.
>>140914819
agreed with all these, though I do really enjoy the saiyan saga, but RR arc prob was the best.
>>140921071
I know if I'd call it overrated senpai, cause I do think it's prob the best and it def does seem so mindblowing the first time you read it, but I do think most of berserk post eclipse is highly underrated. Lost Children arc was prob the peak of Guts' as a character.
>>140925844
You're retarded. There's no such thing as entry level.
Naruto is shit, it should not be recommended to anyone.
>>140914819
>Dragon Ball: RR arc
Wrong, Namek arc
>>140925959
Part 3 was full of plotholes, more so then other parts, powers are instantly forgotten about, dio's purple hermit, all of kakyoins powers, star platinum getting various items from well away from its range.
And the first half of SDC is good besides those parts and one or two stand users who were boring. The egypt arc is a slow grind though, with the stand users either being really good (like second d'arby, dio, vanilla ice, anubis, petshop) or really bad (that bitch who had the electrical outlet stand, first D'arby, oingo boingo)
The characters were really boring too, Polnareff is the only interesting character, iggy maybe near the end. Jotaro is more vanilla then fucking Kenshiro, Joseph was a shell of his former self and only good for the anime where his engrish was funny, Avdol was always pretty boring, and Kakyoin is super boring and never does anything.
I'm not saying other parts don't have plotholes just part 3 is full of them.
Its not the worst part by any means (that'd be 1 or 5), but really over part 7, 2 or 4?Sorry if I sound mean I just really don't know how part 3 can be your favourite and want to understand
Who cares about plotholes?
>>140925815
you take my "retarded" opinion more seriously than i do
yep
>>140927078
Its poor writing and hurts stories
>but anime/manga writing is shit
No, most of the time it is, not always.
>>140924909
>aldritch in dark souls 3
says who
>>140927181
Not him, but I usually just gloss over plotholes without caring much, unless they're really drastic.
>>140927078
It ruins immersion. Then again I don't remember the last time I sat down and read a story fully immersed and glued to the screen.RIP childhood ;_;
SisterS, of course
>>140926680
part 3 is super cool.
I love the concept of the quest to find DIO, redoing the silk route and giving a little slice of every country's culture and sights. It had a lot of goofs (like all that shit with toilets). It had that cute stray girl who got felt up by Jotaro. It had the ominous presence of DIO in the background throughout the story. I guess it's only natural that it felt sort of disjointed and almost improvisational, bt to me that's what JoJo it's all aboutthat said, SDC is my least favorite, though
>>140927590
Like part 3 is certainly great and I love it, its just flawed as fuck.
and i'm fine with araki's not over arching plan, but part 3 was really bad with how bad he forgot everything.
Dark Tournamet is alright but you never feel like much is at stake and it does feel pretty dated after a while.
Chapter Black is where YYH really shines, the mystery is interesting, the fights were very creative, the characters felt unique. There was a real sense of dread, of something very, very bad about to happen, minus the no yusuke your the demons asspull it's the best thing Togashi has ever written.
>>140922695
>>140923271
Why would you recommend people to read what is considered the best manga as their first read? Everything else they read will seem like shit in comparison, also I read the entirety of Junji Ito's worl before I read berserk, around 7-8 years ago, you sound like a filthy casual normie to me.
>>140928922
It's your fault if you develop high expectations for everything and get endlessly disappointed.
>>140928922
Berserk hasn't been even close to how good it used to be in a decade now, a lot of series have passed it now
>>140928922
> Everything else they read will seem like shit in comparison
That's not gonna happen, especially not with something like berserk.
>>140929037
oh god now you've done it
>MUH CHARACTER ARC
>>140929037
I somehow hadn't realized it went on an almost continuous decade-long hiatus but it just hit me, I'm glad it still remains popular tho, so much it's getting new animated material every few years, but I still fear if Miura doesn't resume a semi-regular publication schedule people will just lose interest in it.
>>140929135
Says who bitchboy? I have been reading manga for more than 12 years, you probably havent read even half of what I have and Berserk is still among my top 3.
>>140929628
Sure thing bud.
>>140925092
Why didn't placing 2 tons worth of water in that one room collapse the floor?
>>140930092
Japanese engineering
>>140926389
Sanest man on the thread.
