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What possessed Watanabe to make Axmann look like the least evil Stasi?
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He's not evil, Lise is more evil.
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PSA from the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit

Speaking Guidelines Nr. 7

Schmidt and his accomplices and men in the background plunged our German people into war and misery, shame and disgrace.
The result of Schmidt's rule was the death of thousands, a ruined Berlin, the devastation of German fortifications, and the bullying of Katja.
Crime followed crime, jails, prisons, work camps, and unparalleled betrayal were Schmidt's methods of rule.
New crimes are constantly discovered. Their final extent probably will not be completely known for many years.
Millions of refugees and homeless, hunger, misery, bullying, and the decline of morale — these are the direct consequences of Schmidt's rule.
No external enemy has ever done as much damage to the DDR as Schmidt did.

It is therefore in Katja and the DDR’s national interest to avoid a repetition of Schmidt’s disastrous policies and crimes and to find a new peaceful and democratic path.
The prerequisite to that, however, is that all traitors be strictly punished and that all traces of his rule be wiped out for all time.
Only under the leadership of Beatrix Bhreme and the guidance of Katja Waldheim will the DDR emerge victoriuos against the tide of counter-revolutionary forces and the BETA.

By law only Genosse Theodore can bully Katia.

Es lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik
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Posting best girls.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music

Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is the only soundtrack for current events, comrades.

Also, commissar Gretel just got the Puhdy's last album right before going to REMOVE MORE STASI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
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>>138887145
The ghost of Erich Mielke, so that all evil is commited by russians and women.
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Yui, Cryska and Inia are my waifus.
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So let's say Beatrix converted from Jürgenism to Katholicism?

How badly does she screw up Katia's message?
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>>138887228
Good Man.
>>138887295
Choose one, you'll break their hearts if you cheat.
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>>138887295
>needing other waifus than Yuimoto
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>>138887475
>>138887373
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>>138887372
She'll probably keep Katia as a political prisoner in Lise's route.
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>>138887372
She's a sadistic scumbag who's only inventing up shit to excuse her behavior.
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Can someone explain Schmidt's plan?
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I hate Suzy.
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>>138887677
He's russian
Therefore he's evil.
Beato was justified
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>>138887710
He deserved to die, but I feel like Beatrix just killed him to grab power.
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>>138887677
nuke the shit out of the BETA like diversive for the soviet
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>>138887686
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>>138887257
>the Puhdys dedicate a song to Gretel
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Is there an event anywhere in the whole Muv Luv extended universe that's more hype than the entirety of Operation Ouka?

I know the answer is no, but I'm asking anyway.
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>>138887145
Reminder that Beatrix was the one manipulating the strings of the stasi and most of the torture, rape, and murder is because of her.
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>>138887830
Won't the nukes just get shot down.
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>>138887372
What the fuck possessed Kouki to give the most hate able character of Schwarzesmarken a prequel novel?
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>>138887910
not if they are used like mines, but that's was going to fuck up the east German enviroment
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>>138887910
not if the laserjagd thins enough of the laser class
anyways they were also going to be used like mines, a new meaning to scorched earth tactics
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I want to ask what happened Kirke after the events of SM.
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>Insert song plays
>They just cut out a chunk and didn't even bother make it transition properly
but why
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>>138887981
hmm yes using nukes as mines should make it suprisingly easy as well.
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>>138887971
>Beato a good girl, she dindu nuffin.

Also, as far as the LN translations have gotten, Beatrix beats Gretel in likeability.
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>>138887981
BLUT UND BODEN
DOWN WITH THE RUSSIAN COMMIE
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>>138887764
>>138887856
I just realized
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>>138887145
Have you ever seen Himmler?
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>>138888042
Either dead or in Britain.
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>>138887845
>tfw Lise was right
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>>138888195
I don't see it
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>>138888240
Like they did with her
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>>138888254
I'm saying he doesn't look evil at all and really not threatening.
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>>138888212
What a shame. She's good girl with a nice ass.
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>>138888009
Well don't most of them stay at the hive anyway and only come out once it reaches a saturation point also since lasers can zero in on electronic devices wouldn't they just shoot them out of the ground.
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>>138887677
He wants to nuke both Germans and BETA. Both 100% justified.
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I want to ravage Kirke's tight, supple butt.
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>>138887145
I wouldn't say he's the least evil, but he is far more likable than Beatrix, Schmidt, or Lise. Beatrix in particular may not be the most evil stasi, but she is absolutely the most detestable and least likable.

Axmann always seemed like the type who does evil to further his goals. In comparison, Lise and Beatrix look like the do evil because they enjoy it. Sure, Axmann enjoys being a douche too, but you always get that that's secondary to whatever else he's got going on, whereas the female stasi look like they'd be doing evil because whether they had a goal or not. Axmann would slap a baby to get 50 dollars. He have fun while doing it, but those 50 buckaroos are what he's really after. Beatrix in comparison, would slap a baby just cause. That she gets 50 buck on top of everything else is just an added bonus.

There's also the way they frame the scenes and the music used. Axmann doesn't get the ominous music or skewed angles that the female stasi get. So it subtly cues you in that Axmann isn't as horrible as the other stasi.

That's why, despite really being more heinous, Axmann comes off as less evil
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There is not enough screenshots I can take to do justice of the number of badass female characters in this anime. One reason I really love Schwarzesmarken for are the characters provided, and in a still highly communist country such as East Germany, it's so refreshing to see stories including such diverse women characters who are strong in separate ways - intelligence, independence, kindness, and fighting strength, whether evil or not. And these female characters still look sexy while being their awesome selves.
The episode aired this week was great. I personally love to see military strategy and action - mainly because we hear and see so little of them in real life (movies tend to glorify those sequences). What did you all think of the episode?
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>>138888081
>Beatrix beats Gretel in likeability.
That sounds like bullcrap.
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>>138888393
>male feminism
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>>138888395
they cut out all the Gretels bitchiness in the anime
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>>138888393
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>>138888457
And yet she is one of the characters with most development
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>>138888457
Almost all of it
They left some of her stubborness in Op. Nep
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>>138888395

Gretel mellows out in the LNs too, but she starts off as much more of a bitch.
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>>138888393
A nu-male wrote this. I can smell them like drug hounds sniff out coke.
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These guys are going to end up shooting each other surrounding her like that.
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>>138888395
You remember episodes 4 and 5, when Gretel goes full commie zealot, and is annoying as fuck. Thats her personality as of vol.1 of the LN, and Moonspeakers claim, she only gets better in last couple of LNs. Beatrix however, starts sexy and charismatic, without any evil shown until later.
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>47 is dead
>Homura is dead

This episode was un fun.
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>>138888583
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>>138888648
If he was really 47, he wouldn't be dead.
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>>138888393
Communism invented feminism
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Look what /pol/ did for me!

>based Beato-san
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>>138888648
who is 47
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>>138888648
She isn't dead
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>>138887764
>>138887856
According my secret files Shmidt is a feel guy and fights for memes.
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>>138888648

man, Gretel was a good girl she didnt deserve to get shot
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>>138888879
She has some kind of survival skill. How many deaths she survived already?
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>>138888907

She gets better

Actual spoilers. I recommend waiting till next week.
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>>138888721
47 got shot few times.

Maybe he still alive and have some flashbacks for his previous missions.
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>>138888895
>That boob jiggle
So that's how her perky twins move while having anal with her.
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>>138888599
I don't like that outfit she has. Why they didn't make something more pretty? I mean really, they do all the work to sho off properties of woman body every time and then they show this thing
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>>138888895
>>138889097
I now have the urge to fuck Anett in the ass.
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>>138888721
He didn't have a gun to get the necessary 4 headshots to recover all his health.
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>>138888839
i fixed it
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>>138889020
Are you serious? It's not just some standard denial shitpost?

Maybe they should aim at Soul Gem.

>>138888845
Check out Hitman (or previous thread picture was posted).
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>>138889106
Standart Eishi coat, there is nothing to be done.
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>>138888907
>Gretel dosn't have the Militärpolitische Hochschule Wilhelm Pieck badge

one job etc etc
but the art is fucking neato
>>138888987
The will of the party leads her
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>>138889106
Pretty sure the point of those jackets are to stop the civilians and non eishi personnel from seeing you almost naked.
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>>138889183
Man she is saved by Martin on the LN
Probably they are going to make Anett do that
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>>138887764
How did they miss he is kgb is beyond me.
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>>138889312

suspicion and having actual proof are completely desperate.
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>>138889252
at least it could be elegant, she looks like an elephant in that
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This thread is way more relaxed as the /k/ancer wasn't invited this time.

>>138889160
Thank you anon.
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>>138889183
>Soul Gem

erry time
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>>138889340
separate? distinct? different?
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>>138889369
Threads have been pretty chill considering it's an episode air day.
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>>138889421
I am freaked how slow this thread is going and how people are not acting like total dickheads.

It is nice.
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Lise ;______;
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>>138888895
>boob jiggle

Nice.
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>>138889466
>>138889369
>>138889421
gretel fags are lying low because she got BTFO.
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>>138888393
Which MAL user posted this?
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>>138889501
She was a bitch, but I kinda miss her now.
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>>138889501
Lise is # 1
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>>138889591
everything is better with a little bit of crazy
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>>138889555
It's on Anitrendz FB, and was meant for Gate.
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>>138889591
Because she was the most interesting part of the show, look how little traffic is in these threads now that shes gone. On a new episode day even.
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>>138888393
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>>138887858
No, and you'll never see it animated.

Then again, if it actually does get animated, it probably won't have the budget to do it justice.
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>>138889501
I want to take her for a nice dinner and then have vanilla, consensual sex, with lots of hand holding, kissing, and head patting, with her!

Afterwards we will snuggle and I will tell her what a good girl she is!
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>>138889686
she looks like irisdina here.
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>>138889673
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>>138889681
Sadogashima would probably be equally as taxing to portray, if not more.
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>>138889686
Theo pls
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>>138889681
If they did the part at the end that was originally animated would most likely look a lot worse.
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>>138889768
>glorious 2D Yoshinari animation
>looking worse than 3D pig disgusting CG
Nah. That will always be the best.
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>>138889733
why is she crying?
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>>138889662
>most interesting part of the show
>low traffic

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. And everyone is probably on the Grimgar thread right now.
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Theo pls.

THEO STOP
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>>138889686
You forgot the part where she has to suffer again.
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>>138889798
Thingken of imouto sandwich
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>>138889748
After I go home I will call her in the morning and say what a good night it was!
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>>138889662
>low traffic
The fuck?
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>>138889805
grimgar is low traffic too. Actually I moved from there here.
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>>138889793
That what I was trying to say but I worded it weirdly for some reason.
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>>138889812
YAME
YAMEROOOOO
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>>138889662
>>138889877
>>138889805
Look fags. I didn't fuck up and invite /k/ or /pol/ this time.

That is what happened.
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>>138889812
He should have tied it to the sensor mast.
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>>138889849
Now thats something I can get behind.
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>>138889878
This is like the 4th thread since the episode aired.
How is this low traffic?
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>>138889733
>>138889812
She will never get his D right?
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>>138889905
He should've kept Pham's flowers but
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>>138889812
It's alright, the ribbon will grow a new Lise.
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>>138889940
>we got sensors more sensitive than little girls
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>>138889849
Damn. Just imagine Lise teaching Katia how to suck a dick gets me diamonds.
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>>138888240
>tfw
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>>138889948
She already did, probably one of the reasons she died with a smile.
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>>138890015
>died
she was in that building? I doubt they would kill her offscreen
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>>138889948
>Katia?
Maybe.

>Lise?
She already had his D.
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>>138890051
You mean Katia? She hasn't gotten Onii-chan's D yet.
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>>138890075
>>Lise?
>She already had his D.
What? When?
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>>138889812
This guy just won't let go.
Is this why he became The Master?
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>>138890141
Episode 7.5
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>>138890141
16.5
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Theo: muh promise of protection
Katia: muh theodor-san
Lise: muh oni-chan's dick
Beatrix: muh Jurgen
Iris: muh oni-chan
Gretel: muh party
Anett: muh friends
Walter: muh polandballs
Sylvia: muh walter
Kirke: muh west germany
Axmann: muh discs
Stasi's fuccboi: muh axmann
Did I miss someone?
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I wonder if Katia pissed in the cockpit so that a bit of her would also be part of Theo's new TSF.
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>>138890141
>What? When?

The episode where everyone accused her of spying for the Stasi.
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>>138887145

Watanabe is a communist sympathizer.
It's pretty much classic "that's not real communism" revisionism. Depicting the Stasi as an evil, brutal organization that gets otherwise good people to do horrible things by exploiting them at their weakest moments is a lot more damning than just showing it as an organization with too much power that allows evil people to run wild. That leaves open the possibility that maybe communism could have worked if it was executed better, rather than admitting that entire system was defective from the start.
ompare it to Unsere Mütter Unsere Fäter, which is dead serious, or even a Vasily Grossman novel, which satire.

When someone wants to demonstrate how corrupting and evil an organization is, they do so by giving us sympathetic, relatable characters we can identify with easily, then show us how easily these characters break and proceed to do horrible things when they are forced into impossible situations.

Simply writing off the characters as being evil themselves otherizes them and allows the viewer to entertain the delusion that they would behave differently in that character's situation. This allows for the possibly that the institutions in question are corrupted, rather than being the corrupting influence.

In the case of Schwarzesmarken, the institutions the director means to absolve are the Stasi and the Communist Party, so he therefore comes across as sympathetic to them.
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>>138890141
Buy the BDs

>>138890203
Pham, you asshole!
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>>138890237
There is nothing wrong with communism.
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>>138890164
If you grew up with an imouto as like Lise you'd have a hard time letting go too.
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>>138890203
People in stasi times were so passionate
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>>138890203
>Suzy
Muh revolution

>Schmidt
Muh Soviet Union
Muh nukes
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>>138890275
>says the slav shitposting in a third world communist shithole
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What happened to axmann and gretel?
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>>138890237
I want to gangrape Lise with /a/!

But I get to cum inside first.
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>>138890333
No, that's me
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>>138890333
Actually, communist nations would be second world, anon.
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>>138890349
axmann ran away and gretel burned.
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>>138890333
>says the burger shitposting from his police state
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>>138890333
>someone likes communism
>obviously it's a slav
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>>138890203
Pham: muh flowers
Inghild: muh Marco
Werewolfs: muh Beatrix
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>>138890367
>I want to gangrape Lise
Everyone did that already and more

>with /a/
/a/ doesn't want or need STDs and AIDS
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>>138890203
>Gretel

muh liver
muh socialist suit
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>>138890367
Only if we get to hold hands and make sure Lise feels loved.
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Axmann wants to free Germany of dependency on foreign factions and make Germany great again instead of simply a slave nation controlled by Moscow or Washington

Aside for the whole love of torture and Stasi wiretapping everybody, he's a pretty cool dude. Him and Theo could make a buddy comedy where they live together and have to put up with the other's foibles.
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>>138890392
Only slavs think communism is good, not taco shitholes, not dune coon shitholes and certainly not gook shitholes.
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>>138890203
>Farka
muh identity
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>>138890522
>wants to free Germany of dependency on foreign factions

So he's literally Hitler
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>>138890203
Pham: It ain't muh
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>>138890367
Naive, anon, naive.
You wouldn't gangrape her, you'll just be in your delusion that you have control.
By the time the night is over everyone will be drained alive, both semen and soul.
You can't win against the Stasi.
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Who would you rather fuck: Katarina or Farka?
Katarina is this cutie.
Farka is the girl who got blasted last episode.
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Will we see Martin next episode, there to be atleast one save in the name of true love. Any requqest for webm, transparents or stitches?
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>>138890593
The fire burns sister
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>>138890593
The new ED stitch.
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>>138890551
Who is Farka?
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>>138890676
It's the dead girl.
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>>138890593
the fire rises
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>>138890444
Korn, Bier, Schnaps und Wein und wir hören unsere Leber schreien
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>>138890589
I'd go with Farka.
Anime version squeaks better and also has that whole haughty bitch thing going on.
LN Farka is loyal.
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>>138890643
I didn't see any changes in the ED, what do you mean?
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>>138890512
Socialist cake looks pretty shitty.
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>>138890676
All the dead girls
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>>138890733
Look at Lise.
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>>138890593
Anette saves her,in the name of pure love
Or we can still bet on Martin
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>>138890733
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>>138890536
Yugoslavia was fantastic.
That is while everyone ruled equally and not when Serbs tried to take over and everything went to shit.
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>>138890593
>last thing we see from Gretel is her glorious ass

based
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>>138890748
They have no access to Turkish flour, Tunisian olive oil, Belgian chocolates, Dutch weed and French chefs.

You can probably fuck girls like Beatrix and Iris for a really good chocolate cake.
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>>138890750
The tears in her eyes really sells it.
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>>138890785
Stop triggering him.
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>>138890835
Probably not, for a variety of reason. Chief among them is that Iris and Beatrix were both elites and would have access to Western products. Beatrix probably even still uses Western beauty products.

Now Annette or Pham is another story.
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>>138890785
>tfw no Yugoslavia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yor7kNTjEmA


>>138888894
What's Pepe's role in all this
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>>138890781
Alright.
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>>138890593
Has Martin been mentioned a single time in this show?
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>>138889948
She's imouto-zoned by anime Theo

She'll get the D
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>>138890643
>>138890781
>Katia's hips
Too small to bear children?
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>>138891004
No, he remains as Gretel's imaginary friend.
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>>138891027
No way. More than wide enough.
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I want to protect all the imoutos.
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>>138891027
None of them of them will bear children, anon.
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>>138891096
That color scheme is the worst crime East Germany has perpetuated against humanity.
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>>138891051
If Jurgen had just stuck with his imouto and protected her instead of pursuing a rabid bitch, none of this would be happening.
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>>138891096
I'm at least sure Katia will, since she's not dead.
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>>138891124
I think it's really sexy.
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Such a sweet girl.
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>>138891172
I really want to see Katia in one.
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>>138891124
what are you talking about? they have best looking fortified suits imo
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>>138889097
Source of this?
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>>138891051
That's a noble goal, my friend

>>138891131
Jurgen really ruined everything for everyone, eh?
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>>138890923
>were both elites
Being "elite" in a communist shithole is the same as being a working class scum in first world countries.
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Who kills Iris now? Probably not Axmann.
Beatrix?
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>>138891172
I agree!
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>>138890643
>>138890994
>Eyes closed and smiling
Man, anime Lise might've had a worse life than LN Lise, but at least she got a relatively happy ending.
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>>138891227
That's not how wealth works.
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>>138891227
>Not been part of the Nomenlkatura

pls
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>>138891131
Iris pls
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>>138890237
/pol/ pls stop
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>>138890785

Yugoslavia was fine while Tito was alive because Tito was pragmatic and competent. Needless to say, he was also not a Serb. But I repeat myself.

Yugoslavia was also helped by the fact that Tito remained outside the grasp of the Soviet Union, something that would have been impossible if Tito was a Serb because Serbs never miss a chance to put a Russian dick in their mouths.
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Have you praised your patron saint today?
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>>138891379
The Non-Aligned movement was the best
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>>138890237
>>138891374
on second thought maybe the Japs don't realise the GDR was democratic only in name and the anime doesn't explain that
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Shame next week is the last episode!

Fuck man, it was a fun ride with you guys,
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How will the anime handle next week's penetration? Will they show Beatrix's reaction as Theo enters her, or will it just be one MiG stabbing another MiG?
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>>138891451
Katia is a goddess.
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>>138891379
https://youtu.be/_VLixMVJZF4?t=48m46s
>this parade

every time
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>>138891508
if it will be like LN it will only show oil and blood leaking out of TSF
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>>138891379
Proper communism died with this man.
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>>138891635
It still hurts
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>>138891589
Those are some tempting perky twins.
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>>138891508
I need this. I don't want another letdown like Esdese's death. Give me blood, give me something cathartic, especially after how much of a bitch she's been set up to be.

>>138891616
Not even a closeup of her coughing up blood as she talks?
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>>138890593
Can I get a .webm of Beatrix's grin in the last few seconds?
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>>138891635
TIto was a grandmaster at dealing with human flesh and blood, but how would he deal with BETA?
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>>138890589
It's Katrina.
Farka first.
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>>138887677
Nuke shit indiscriminately.

The anime idea of him being a Soviet deep cover agent puts a whole new spin on things. Originally, he was just a dude out for power, if he looked like he would lose to BETA or rebels, he'd nuke every inch of East Germany and flee somewhere, probably to Soviet lines.

>>138887910
Not necessarily. First of all, Laser clsses can be thinned, and second, they won't be able to shoot things like nuclear artillery shells down, or hit buried mines.
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>>138891777
He was dead by the time the BETA arrive to Europe, so Yugoslavia is fucked
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>>138891662
Not a week goes by that I don't hear my grandparents and mom mention how things would be different if he was still alive.
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>>138891762
Here.
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>>138891822
I'm willing to bet that Gregory is VN-canon content. That would definitely make Katia's route a hell of a lot more exciting if it was The Master vs a KGB guy.
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>>138891863
muh dick
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>>138891863
Perfect.
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>>138891863
Doing God's work.
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>>138891863
>>138891910
It's funny that Beatrix is a far better Esdeath than Esdeath ever was in her anime.
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>>138891831
When did the BETA arrive? I can't believe they took out most of Europe in such a small number of years if they weren't there before 1980, and when was SM, '84?
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>>138891940
Are you talking about anime Beatrix?
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>>138891994
73 landed
SM happens on 83
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>>138890367

Can't we just run a train on her that's kind and consensual? Everyone who already came inside has to hold her hand and pat her head and say nice things to her, and we'll give her sweets and shots of schnapps when she asks. And we'll only use her butthole after convincing her it's ok.
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>>138887372
>converting away from Jurgenism

>>138887884
Reminder that you're an idiot.

Did seriously no one remember the scene where Axmann is meeting that mysterious person, and one of them says "when you contacted me, I thought it was a joke at first"? He switched sides again at the last minute, as is Axmann's way.

>>138887971
Because you're an idiot.

>>138888081
It's better than that, Gretel isn't even likeable in the VNs till after Op Neptune or so.

>>138888350
Did you get this off MAL?
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>>138891994
they arrive 73 SM is 83 Germany falls in 84
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>>138892025
I mean, when did they step foot in Europe.
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>>138892043
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>>138891994
They arrived in 1973.

>>138892017
Yeah, anime Beatrix
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I just started watching this show, why is the Cold War still going on if humanity is getting raped by aliens?

Alien invasion should be one of the few things which unite humanity.
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>>138891994
The BETA came to Earth in 1973. They landed in Kashgar.
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>>138892087
Stop watching shitty American movies.
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>>138892050
Thank you based Beato-san anon for laying it down on these retards!
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>>138892066
around 1976
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>>138892050
>Did you get this off MAL?

No. I'm criticizing the anime's framing of the stasi. That Axmann doesn't "feel" as evil as he should is the problem.
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>>138892050
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>>138892078
Explain.
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Did Beatrix got killed in the novels?
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>>138891994
>>138892093
How come, that this isn't universally known on all SM threads? Even anime only fags should know, it was told in the first episode.
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>>138889106
I dunno mang, they're pretty cool imo.

Plus they give off a nice hint of what lies beneath.
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>>138892146
You slipped up your act, anon. Now you admitted you're mad about the anime's portrayal.
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>>138892166
She gets the most brutal death of all the girls barring Vivi perhaps.
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>>138891635
>Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle. If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second.
>— Josip Broz Tito

Absolutely Magnificent Bastard.
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