I am genuinely curious. What is it about little sister characters that people like? Outside of stereotypes, "Little sister" literally says nothing about a character's personality, looks, or the way that they grow over the course of the series. The only thing the term "little sister" tells me is the character is probably 1. Young and 2. not the main character (since they always seem to be related to some dumbass main-character big brother rather than the main character themselves).
So why do so many people suddenly either love or hate a character just because the term "little sister" is attached to them?
The better question is why do imoutos get all the love and never Onee-chans?
it usually speaks to a very specific kind of cuteness. It's closer and more intimate and comfortable. Two characters being close without needing to navigate social norms, etc.
As a siscon I would like to relay my thoughts on the matter of why I have taken such a liking towards this fetish.
Setting is an important thing, both the brother and sister need to live in the same house, that closeness in proximity is an important part for fully realizing the joy of incest. Two fully blood-related beings, such a relationship turning sexual has been reviled and forbidden by the tacit rules of society, although throughout your life you (normally) wouldn't receive warnings against such things, it seems to be innately understood for all people that engaging in such an act is vile. This societal distaste for incest is one of the reasons why the fetish can be what it is, two people so close yet so far. Close by nature but far apart by he rules of civilization, the tender feelings that develop as both of them develop as they each effect and leave imprints on the other's life is heartwarming and almost idealistic. Sadly I do not have a sister in real life (I have a brother though) but in my eyes to have a sister is to have a girl whose as close to your heart as can be. Since you can remember she's been there and since she can remember you've been there as well, although differing in personal styles and life choices you two have always been with each other in some capacity, yet despite this there must be a divide between you due to what the zeitgeist have dictated to be moral and right. To love your imouto and in turn be loved by her takes your relationship beyond that of conventional siblings bonded by blooded, but elevates to a romantic pair inseparable because of blood. Loving your sister is the ultimate "fuck you" towards society, as you express a deep love that can never be broken.
>>138897476
Your wording is interesting to me. You literally said "towards this fetish." Does that mean, for you, it is a sexual thing predominantly?
Do you think if you did have a sister it would be different?
That's actually very insightful. thanks for the detailed answer.
The nature of familial love
Someone to protect, maybe spoil too
Someone who will look up to you, respect you
Incest
>>138897139
Different kind of moe. They're older females so the nature of the relationship may be different and have its own kinks. I seek aneki stuff because imouto is redundant to me.
>>138897877
>Do you think if you did have a sister it would be different?
Not him, but being a little sister usually includes a particular character dynamic with the main character because "they always seem to be related to some dumbass main-character big brother". They're not characters who happen to be little sisters, but little sisters of the main character. Because of this, their relationship with the main character makes up most of their identity.
>>138899354
Isn't that kind of a negative thing? To have a character that's only defined by another character in the story?
>>138897476
>Doesn't have a sister
Yeah, stopped reading there.
>>138901972
You could argue yes, especially from a Western narrative perspective, but that seems like one of those rules that's fairly easy to bend and break.
>>138902077
Isn't it kind of worse to be a siscon when you actually have a sister? If you don't, then it's all just fantasy, otherwise i'm sure that would be very emotionally hurtful.
>>138897139
this
>>138902122
I'm a siscon and I have two younger sisters, but separating fantasy from reality isn't hard. I love both of them dearly and our relationship is more intimate than most but romantic thoughts have never even crossed my mind.
I have a little sister, but my fetish for it in anime doesn't really equate in real life. The way it's portrayed in anime is so unrealistic I don't think people who actually are actually sisterless would be able to understand, but they are just two different things. In anime they just are these kawaii little sex demons to the MC most of the time and that's why it's so appealing honestly.
In real life though I feel towards my sister the same I would my brother, but with slight differences since she is a girl. I do kiss her on the lips every now and then in a friendly manner like before bed and stuff. Can't say I haven't popped a boner or two in certain situations, but all in all it's different from anime.
>>138902224
>do kiss her on the lips every now and then in a friendly manner like before bed and stuff. Can't say I haven't popped a boner or two in certain situations, but all in all it's different from anime.
I'm probably the rare case of someone who both likes real world and anime incest, so I don't think I can really help answer this question. Though, I get the impression its as simple as the character archetype being an easy one for people to, well, waifu.
>>138902224
>I do kiss her on the lips every now and then
Hmmmm
How do the rest of you get over the crippling feeling of knowing your imouto will never love you in the same way?
>>138902288
Oh? How's that going for you? Does your imouto know, or are you too afraid to say anything about it?
>>138902521
I've already posted at length about it before but it made a lot of people mad and I really don't want to get banned, so I'm not going to do it again.
I love my little sister, I would probably do anything for her if she really means it.
People call me siscon when they know I'm that way, and sometimes they (females) say that they want to be my little sister.
I also have a thing with imouto on 2D, and the feelings are pretty different from IRL. IRL, it's because I'm her brother and in 2D, well, you should know it, fellow incestfag.
I would be fucked if she knows I watch incest anime/manga/VN though.
>>138902626
seeing as it's relevant to the discussion at hand, i don't see how you'd get banned over it. fair enough, though, anon.
>>138902648
what if your sister irl was into you? would you feelings about it be different then?
>>138902706
You have a point there. This isn't a generic "talk about imouto anime" thread, so I suppose it might be more conductive to the discussion, butIf I told you I'm the anon that wants to fuck her brother, you might better understand why I'm so hesitant about it.
>>138902648
>I would be fucked if she knows I watch incest anime/manga/VN though.
I've actually watched Oreimo with my little sis and we both thought it was funny. I never told her about the 2nd season though..
Oddly enough I get these weird vibes from her sometimes when we're watching movies and stuff. We'll both get in my bed under the covers and I swear a few times she gotten extreeeemely close to me and I didn't know what to think about it. I kind of just stiffen up usually and try to keep my legs really close together, but I swear she'll almost be touching me sometimes and I don't know what to think!
fyi I'm the dude who said we'll kiss on the lips every now and then. Not really sure what to think of it all. I've gotten some weird vibes and my brother and my mom have jokingly poked fun at us before. Kind of confused honestly.
>>138901972
If the character is only that trope, then yes, but it's negative in the same way harem archetypes are. They have an appeal, even if they aren't written well.
Like >>138902090 said, you could make the character not feel stale by adding another trait such as otaku, tsundere, brocon, etc. It would be "best" for the little sister to have her own life outside of her relationship with the main character, but that would require screentime, usually without the main character. This goes against the point of most of these shows, which is the main character's interactions with girls. A good example of this is Amagami SS.
>>138896958
the only close relationship i've ever had with a girl was with my onee-chan so i find it easier to relate to a romantic relationship between siblings than normal ones.
>>138902706
I'm probably confused with that, and ask her if she really likes me. And also say that incest is immoral in our society. But If she's still stubborn with that, I probably say to her to try to be a couple and see how will it go.
>>138902775
Oreimo S1 was still normal anime. About brother who loves his little sister (not romantically).
>>138902765
>>138902775
desperately hoping these two anons are secretly each other's brother and sister.
But, no, to the anon who wants to fuck her brother, i'm not familiar. It's pretty surprising to hear there are actually sisters out there with brother complexes.
>>138903179
I only have one sibling, and my brother has a girlfriend, so no. I'm also fairly certain he doesn't post on 4chan, as, if I thought he did, I wouldn't dare have said any of the things I did.
It only works if your imouto is non-blood related and kawaii.
3D imoutos are usually hate incarnate. They're like nice to everyone else except the oniichan.
>>138902846
>has a girlfriend
ah shit, that must be hard. i feel for you, lonely imouto. good luck with all that.
>>138896958
For a lot of viewers, a sister is the closest relationship they've ever had with a female remotely their own age
>>138903761
kill yourself
>>138903329
That's when she's on Junior Highschool. It's called tsundere phase. And it will depend on you after that phase, will she become tsundere or become dere-dere or etc.
Little sisters are horrible because they essentially believe they have 3 parents and can get away with anything by turning any 2 against 1.
>>138903761
So sad.
>>138902220
>but separating fantasy from reality isn't hard.
this, i would literally never be interested in sexing my sisters.
>>138903906
It seems to be incredibly hard for many anons.
>>138903768
don't make it so obvious lad
>>138903906
I'd rail the fuck out of my sister honestly
>>138903906
You'd do it if they asked and were persistent
>>138903768
>>138903849
It's the same reason "childhood friend" characters are so common. For a good chunk of the audience the girl up the street in 4th grade was the last one they socialized with. So they spend the next decade wondering 'what if' and get it answered by an anime.
>>138904034
But /a/ usually hates childhood friends.
>>138904064
Anime isn't made for /a/
>>138904107
Anime wouldn't exist without /a/.
>>138904134
>>138904134
LOL
>>138896958
You know it's a fetish right?
Real men protect those that are small and weak. That's a man's duty.
>>138904787
a-anon kun...!
>>138897139
Because imoutos are gods and nee-sans are trash.
>>138905171
How are you doing today senpai?
>>138902224
>I do kiss her on the lips every now and then in a friendly manner like before bed and stuff. Can't say I haven't popped a boner or two in certain situations, but all in all it's different from anime.
yeah ok
>>138902775
>I've gotten some weird vibes and my brother and my mom have jokingly poked fun at us before. Kind of confused honestly.
Dude what?
>>138903329
Pretty much this. There are certainly points in my life where I wonder if things would be better off if I was an only child.
>>138905922
you would be like millhouse
>>138902775
How old are you?
>>138903329
>>138905922
Too bad. My imouto was perfect until I moved out, then we lost contact.
>you will never be able to truthfully answer her when she bashfully asks you how she looks
>you will never see the corner of a smile push onto her face when your hand brushes against hers
>you will never be able to run your fingers idly through her hair while she leans against you
>you will never hold and comfort her after she comes home crying
>you will never sit by the fire with her in your lap, your arms wrapped around her waist
>you will never feel your heart race as she excuses herself for entering your room late at night
>you will share a long and wonderful conversation with her as you lie back to back in your bed
>you will never get to tuck her in after she falls asleep
>you will never feel her grab your hand as you turn to leave
>you will never wrap your arms around her as her legs brush against yours under the covers
>you will never hear her sigh happily as she nestles her nose into the nape of your neck
>you will never experience the bliss of cuddling your imouto to sleep as her warm breath rolls over you
>>138906836
well, i guess tonight is a good night to fucking kill myself. thanks anon
>>138906887
Don't do it! You'll miss out on all the shitposting threads yet to come!
>>138906901
My chance to really love and cherish my imouto is gone, man. it hurts.
>>138906946
Drink two bottles of hard booze and cry yourself to sleep.
>>138906956
what if i end up calling her and telling her how i feel instead
>>138906970
Then maybe she will come over to your place and discuss it.
>>138907013
i wanna believe but
i just can't hope anymore you know
there are so many things that seem like obstacles... not even considering the sister thing. it's stifling
>>138906946
Same here. My sister got married but my thoughts have remained the same. One day I will learn Japanese so I can play incest eroges.
>>138906836
>Your imouto will never put her arms around you after your girlfriend leaves you without warning, telling you how she will always be on your side, gently rubbing your headThis fucking scene, holy shit. So many warm feelings
>>138907163
FUCK
I just have to invest all my hope that some girl comes along that I can invest myself in in the same sort of way, but it's just... I can't imagine it, you know. It seems so impossible.
>>138907217
With that attitude, it is.
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Fuck off blogfags.
>>138907288
It's such a god damn disappointment. IMouto threads are so full of blogshitting that barely any actual discussions get done.
>>138907363
A huge reason are those stupid blog-inviting threads recently. Mods seem to not care right now either, I don't think a single blog thread has been purged this month, at least not the imouto ones.
>>138907363
Not to excuse the blogshit, but unfortunately I'm starting to think all the discussions have already been had, multiple times over. Because imouto anime is dead.
We didn't even get to see the rise of nee-san anime. Sisters in anime just disappeared. Dark times ahead.
>>138907363
Too many self centered people nowadays, you'd think they would avoid anonymous imageboards.
>>138907542
I wish there was more sister VNs like this. All the stuff I've seen involving sisters is either stupid comedy or a fapfest.
>>138907542
Which is why people like me try to get others to vary their tastes, or try another series. THe only problem is, once you have read all the big ones, like YNS, OreImo, Koi Kaze, Kana or Akane-iro, finding a new one can be difficult
>>138907542
True but that doesn't mean people should start talking about their lives. I'm fine with discussing things over and over.
>>138907599
>Comedy
>Fapfest
Then try Kana Imouto. It's an utsuge, with a single good ending. There are only MAYBE 4 sex scenes, 2 with the sister, and 2 with the yandere, so the focus is definitely on the story
>>138907608
OniAi and Aki Sora too.
>>138907363
there was some actual discussion at the beginning of the thread.
>>138907645
He was referencing Kana in his post. I'm sure he's already had his heart shredded.
>>138907684
Didn't see the "like this"
I'm always eager to shill for Kana, I can't help it
>>138907608
Before getting into anime I had this notion that the medium was full of sister themed shows. Turns out that's a big stereotype and there's really just a small group of infamous ones. It's a shame.
>>138897139
I love onee-chan
I love everything about this scene. Kirino's tsuntsun is starting to crack, Kyousuke starting to show how much he loves his sister, and Irony starts playing.
I"m not happy with how the anime portrayed Prez. At the end of the VN, she was ok with the twins being together, but in the anime, seeing them fucking leaves her a rekt mess
>>138907879
I always resented that there wasn't a significant change in their relationship afterward. It was a huge moment for them but with such little pay off in the following episode.
That's my biggest gripe with Oreimo. Just when you think the characters are starting to develop and change it all gets reset by the time the next episode starts. Until the second season OVA where it practically feels like they're acting out of character because they're finally acting closer to their LN versions.
>>138908637
True, especially in the anime it's quite frustrating. That scene and Kyousuke flying to America to get her back should have probably had a bigger impact on their relationship.
>>138904034
Onee-chans: the only slightly older female they ever had close contact with.
MILFs: mom was the only female they ever had close contact with.
Big tits characters: photos of pin up girls were the only female thing they had close contact with.
Tsundere: the only girl they tried to get close with hated them.
Yandere: the only time they tried to get close to a girl they got the cops called on them.
Suddenly appearing girlfriend: they never got close to a female.
>>138908739
Yeah, you can do that with pretty much everything.
>>138896958
Because they always make them cute. Then the stereotype became popular.
Proof everyone who watches cartoons should be burnt at the stake. Fucking faggots.
>>138909391
You seem angry, onii-chan, is your imouto mistreating you?
For me, they're just really damn cute.
I can understand when people get pissed at the not blood related thing but it doesn't matter to me. As long as she looks up to or really enjoys her brother's company (even secretly) it makes the imouto a kind of super cute fantasy.
>>138896958
the sexualization
>>138896958
>the love relationship between her and MC is forbidden because their blood-relationship
>she is yunger than MC
That's pretty much everÃthing what they need.
>>138897139
Name me a series where onee-chans weren't used goods!
>>138908739
>MILFs: mom was the only female they ever had close contact with.
Isn't it the opposite? Mother comlex usually kicks in for those whose mother hadn1t gave a fuck about them.
>>138897937
Do they fuck?
>>138904134
>Anime wouldn't exist without /a/.
