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Are you ready for a Hideo Kojima anime?
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I never got what the hype was with this guy
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>>137635467
That's because he's genuinely a garbage writer that makes LN authors look like Dostoyevski
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>>137635522
I've read light novels, and I've read "real" Japanese literature, and I've read manga and watched anime.

I've also played his games.

He's not that bad. Some of them aren't that good.

I think his principal talent is as a screen writer, and at that, when he's engaged in affectionate parody of spy and action movies. If he'd never made it big he'd just be writing/making weird little games himself or with a small team like a lot of these guys do.

The style is not for everyone. Honestly it's kind of eccentric and an acquired taste. It does not necessarily involve "good" character writing or dialogue. (Although I think he has punchy examples of both. Just not you know, stuff for the ages. Not as high literature. But by god, fun and memorable.)
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MOE
GIRL
SUZUHA

A story about little girl spy who like donuts.
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imagine metal gear animes op https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbe_HIL46lY
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>>137635687
>He's not that bad

/tv/ here. his writing is a fuckin joke. his whole plot is a twist. and he covers his unlimited plot holes with more twists. his "movies" you cant even follow them unless you played all his previous shit. i cringed so hard in mgs2 that i fractured my skull. i think in his latest game some of his big movie friends (Toro) opened his eyes about what a complete fool he was makin of himself. having said that gameplay in mgs1/2/3 remains unbeaten
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>>137635940
>his "movies" you can't even follow unless you played all his previous shit.
Isn't that how sequels tend to work?
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>>137635522
>>137635687
>>137635940

Still better than urobuchi
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>>137635467
I can't find the whole thing, but he literally predicted the future of internet communities.
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here
Stopped reading here
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>>137635940
The gameplay in MGS is and was nothing particularly special, just action-stealth.
>his "movies" you cant even follow them unless you played all his previous shit
If you're from /tv/ you should know that's usually how sequels work, or maybe not just current television is pop fiction designed for imbeciles who can't follow a story thread for more than seven minutes, god forbid more than one plot point is happening at similar times.
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>>137636045
Deus Ex did it too.
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>>137636003
As someone who studies literature at the graduate level academically, it always surprises me when people who dislike Urobuchi start criticizing his writing. The fact of the matter is that, from a technical point of view, he is a very skilled writer. It's rare in anime that someone is so good at both writing compelling plots and making believable, interesting characters. All of Urobuchi's stories have both of these, as well as extremely well-written, interesting dialogue.

There are parts of Fate/Zero that actually remind me of Shakespeare. Of course I don't mean this in a qualitative way, but just in a structural sense of the way that he creates characters and writes them.

The only really shitty thing about Urobuchi is that he's very lazy. He needs to stop letting other people finish the stories that he starts. Aldnoah.Zero and Psycho-pass, arguably even Madoka Magica, are all incomplete and he's putting his faith in people who lack his sophistication and skill to realize the rest of his original vision.

Aside from this though, considering writing quality is typically the worst thing about anime, it's surprising that /a/ is so eager to denounce the few examples of competent writers that there are. Urobuchi, Kawahara and Okada are good examples of writers that are frequently slandered on /a/ by people who are trying to seem smart by having hard, contrary opinions, but who just end up sounding like idiots, at least to me, and I'm sure to anyone else who actually knows a thing or two about "good writing."


>A drama or literary work in which the main character is brought to ruin or suffers extreme sorrow, especially as a consequence of a tragic flaw, moral weakness, or inability to cope with unfavorable circumstances.
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>>137635940
>/tv/ trying to convince me something is bad
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>>137636138
>trying to seem smart by having hard, contrary opinions
Literally 4chan. Don't let it get to you. Though you probably typed up that wall more for your sake than the boards. And that's ok.
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>>137635940
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>>137635940
>having said that gameplay in mgs1/2/3 remains unbeaten
Stopped reading there.
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>>137636138
>There are parts of Fate/Zero that actually remind me of Shakespeare. Of course I don't mean this in a qualitative way, but just in a structural sense of the way that he creates characters and writes them.

Is this pasta supposed to be tasty?
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>>137635048
it can't work out, if it was pre-digital era of anime someone like Kojima could come in and make something great even without any background in animation, the way things are now though he'd be hard pressed to make anything that isn't just shoveled out garbage, cgi shit just like is lauded knight of sidonia anime
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here
Post disregarded.
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>>137636255
He never said he was making anime, he wants to make a series that gets its own anime.
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>>137636069
this is basically a /v/ thread fag
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here
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>>137636242
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>>137636279
But ZOE already has its own anime
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>>137636244
Did you watch Fate/Zero?
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>>137635940
As someone who has been to /tv/ a bit, I think most of /tv/ is a joke that takes themselves too seriously.
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here.
Fuck off
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here

I'm sorry, anon.
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>>137636138
Bless you, mane.This site is full of idiots.
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>>137635940
Why on Earth would you identify yourself as a crossboarder from the worst board on 4chan?
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>>137636323
>worst board on 4chan
>he has never been in /vg/
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>>137636138
>good at both writing compelling plots and making believable, interesting characters
Stopped reading right there.
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>>137636359
/vg/ is a horrible board but they don't raid people which inevitably brings newfags like /tv/
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>>137636138
Ph.D in Literature here, don't listen to this newbie, Uroshit a shit.
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>>137636353

nice stomach tough I bet the tits are pathetic
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>>137636244
That's right though. As far as anime goes, Fate/Zero is the closest to Shakespeare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrj6ht8ne2g
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>>137635048
>anime
looks like sugita brainwashed him
or vice versa if sugita's in
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>>137636113
But no one cares about Deus Ex.
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>>137636138
holy fucking shit where did this originally come from, don't tell me you wrote this yourself anon.
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>>137636397
Raid fags are mostly from /b/.
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>>137635048
I hope a snatcher anime gets made.
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>>137636476
maybe if you have shit taste you don't
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>>137636476
>
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Who is the Hideo Kojima of anime?
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>>137635048
>hideo kojima
Literally who?
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>>137636429
>female
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>>137636503
Am I talking to a poster from 2008? /b/ is traps, porn, furry and bananas
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>>137636528
Anno
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>>137636529
The man who wrote Lain But Better.
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>>137636564
What's MGS?
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>>137635048
Who?
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>>137636589
Metal Gear Solid. The Eva of video games.
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>>137636589
I think its that flavor enhancer they put in Chinese food.
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>>137636615
>video games
Back to /v/ with you.
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>>137636589
Mobile Gundam Suit
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>>137636615
>video games
>>>/v/
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reminder that metal gear fags are the most cancerous fanbase on 4chan. they're subhumans that need to be eradicated
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>>137636138
Just in case no one mentioned, this is a pasta.
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who is the /a/ equivalent of some snek under a box?
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>>137636718
>Instead of trying to prove him wrong lets say its a pasta
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H A B B E N I N G
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>>137635048

Kojima... you absolute idiot... JUST GO BACK TO DOING Z.O.E. JUST MAKE US HAPPY FOR ONCE.
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>>137636773
A faggot in a robot
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>>137637277
So Shinji then.
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Hes a complete hack fraud, so he'll be great as an anime director. But we could always use more tacticool military anime.
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>>137636045
This one?
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>>137637343
Or literally any MC of a mecha anime.
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>>137637400
Nah just Shinji.
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here
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>>137637748
/v/ are just as bad
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>>137635048
Why do people hate him so much?

MGS2 & 3 were both pure genius.
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here
pls return to your containment board
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>>137637809
underage spotted
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why are there two threads up for this
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>>137637880
>I didn't understand MGS2
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>>137637883
Because of this>>137636708
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>>137637809
The barrier for entry to understand just WHAT THE HELL is going on exceeds the requirements for most PHDs.

Now. Would you rather have a Phd, or would rather understand what's going on in a metal gear solid game?
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>>137637942
Metal Gear isn't that difficult to understand you ADD piece of shit.
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>>137637933
underage spotted
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>>137637942
You're an idiot if you really thought it was that confusing.
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MGS V was the shittiest MGS in history.
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>>137638002
The hypocrisy is staggering.
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>>137638012
>>137637998

Explain it in less than a thesis, faggot.
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>>137638032
That would be Peace Walker
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>>137638106
You think I'm going to spoonfeed you?

Fuck off.
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MGS V gets far more hate than it deserves.
The game was solid. I don't know what people expected.
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>>137635048
He already has some and both were crap
http://myanimelist.net/people/5732/Hideo_Kojima
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>>137636653
>>137636672
We used to have Metal Gear threads in /a/ before you knew this place existed.
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>>137636138
>interesting dialogue
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>>137636138
urobuchi is one of the few writers that keeps me watching animu. wish there were more like him
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>>137638213

It was disappointing and unfinished, so people shit on it more than it really deserves. It was still a great game.

The people who legitimately think MGS4 was better must be severely brain damaged.
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>>137638150
>fuck he's right I can't explain it
>better cover this up by acting like I can but just won't
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>>137638106
Explain what? The plot of the entire series?
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>>137638150
> Spoon feed
> a MGS plot
It's tough without one of these, isn't it?
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>>137638273
People irrationally dislike 4.
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>>137638106
>needing a thesis to explain garbage like MGS

Why would anyone ever do that?
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>>137636138
I appreciate Urobuchi, I just have an aversion for "dark/edgy/cynical" bullshit.
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>>137638440
MGS2 has college essays written about it.
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Did anyone actually watch ZOE anime
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>>137638468
Which pretty much proves this right >>137636708
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>>137638515
Just because you can write an essay about something doesn't mean it needs one to explain it
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>>137635048

Ocelot falls in love with John.

Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with Snake's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls him, and is overjoyed to find out that he has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to him, Snake only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the Snake he called is not the same Snake he fell in love with. In fact, he doesn't exist in this universe at all. He is Snake's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with Ocelot's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of his crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the RULES of NATURE.
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>>137638515
Or it could just mean MGS2 is amazing.
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>>137638567
Every single ducking thread
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Fuck off /v/.
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>>137638579
>People actually believe this
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>>137638635
Why not?

It has one of the deepest meta plots ever.
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>>137638683
> Bottomless depths of plot that rival mariana's trench
> amazing
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nanomachines
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STANDING HERE
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Metal Gear Solid has always being a gateway vidya of the worst kind. If you faggots take off your nostalgia googles you'd realise that the writing is basically Naruto tier levels of bad. Go play Planescape: Torment for an actual vidya with good writing.
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>>137638567
You could have made it about Venom, is
>But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to him, Snake only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the Snake he called is not the same Snake he fell in love with. In fact, he isn't Snake at all. He is Snake's clone, surgically altered to resemble him

Or
>Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with Snake's DNA. Never minding the strange ghost, he immediately hacks into GW, and is overjoyed to find out that he has access to the Patriot's network of AIs
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I love Metal Gear and all, but if MGSV was any indication of his current writing, then I really think this is a bad idea.
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THE MEMES JACK
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>>137638925
You're very in touch with your inner child.
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>>137638925
I think I'd rather take an MGR-inspired anime than anything Kojima has to offer, and this is coming from someone who ate up all the MGS games.
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>>137638958
Atleast it would be short and entertaining.
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But the anime videogame already exists.
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>>137638822
MGS2 & 3 are both legit masterpieces, sorry.
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>>137639043
This was a good game.
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>>137638779
I MEMEALIZE
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>>137636138
It's been like months since I last seen this pasta, good job anon.
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>>137639052
Turds can't be masterpieces
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>>137635048
Does that mean sjw in my anime?
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>>137639319
Good joke.
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So hojima writes shit and the kids eat it up. Does that make him the Hussie of Japan?
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>>137639555
Yes. Even Ken Levine is a better writer than Kojima
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>>137639614
Ken levine never wrote anything. Everyone else did that for him
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>>137639614
How can on man be so retarded?
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Kojima is a hack writer desu
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I think we can all agree that Todd Howard is one of the most handsome game developers, right?
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>>137639614
Bioshock is just a video game adaptation of Atlas Shrugged.
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Why is this /v/ thread still up?
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>>137639691
No.
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>>137638567
R-Ai-volver Ocelot finds a way
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>>137639681
Said no one ever. Kojima is basic as fuck and his incompetence got exposed back when MGS2 was getting localized. Tom Clancy shits all over his high school narrative.
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>>137636589
My Great Scrotum
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>>137639836
MGS2 is a masterpiece actually.

Too bad you didn't get it.
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>>137639707
Since when are Baccano and Berserk /v/?
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>>137639971
Since always /v/ermin
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>>137639964
I got it back when I was 14 years old for fucks sake. What's there to get?
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>>137639971
Berserk is pretty /v/ tier.

Not sure about Baccano though, KLK should be swapped with it.
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>>137639836

Did he write MGS2?
I thought some other guy wrote 1,2 and 3 then Koijma took over writing for PW, GZ and 5
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>>137640026
It's the most subversive sequel ever made.
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What is the MGS of anime?
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>>137640081
Boku no Pico
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>>137636138
Just because you study literature doesn't mean you're qualified, in fact, since you're dumb enough to go school for that, you definitely aren't someone to be listened to.
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>>137639707
Half the shit in there isn't eve-
>"that" OPM image
Opinion discarded. Don't you have a shitposting thread about OPM to start?
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here
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ITT crossboarding scum
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>>137635522
Fag that doesn't like Metal Gear detected.
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>>137635048
Even shounen writers like Oda is better than this hack Kojima.
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>>137636615
>The Eva of video games

That isn't dark souls.
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>>137635048
He's shit without Tomokazu Fukushima. After MGS3, gameplay and direction become his only saving graces because his writing is hack drivel and depend on plot twists.
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here
>/tv/
The thing Kojima like the most.
What's hilarious is how his ever growing love for /tv/ crap is what made his games progressively worse.
Incidentally, his best works were the most anime ones.
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>>137638260
>those threads that for some reason turned into Ace Combat and/or Metal Gear threads
you're cool sometimes, /a/
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>>137641621
You got it wrong. Liking Metal Gear makes you a fag
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>>137636440
Fucking Code Geass is closer to the bard than FZ and I actually like FZ.
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>>137638468
So does a bunch of other shit. College education isn't as big a deal anymore when just about anyone can run some rubbish course for people to get easy credits.
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>>137644119
fag
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>>137636045
>future
It's literally the past repeating itself for n'th time.
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>>137636138
What do you think about Tomino's G-reco as an exemplary form of storytelling?
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>>137636138
Time to go visit /m/
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>>137638269
are you fucking retarded?
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/a/ here. gonna be a deconstruction of the mecha genre.
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>>137640125
hey, if you're so stupid that you couldn't make it to college then fuck off, don't blame us for ur failures
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>>137636138
Madoka was cheap sensationalism built around its gimmicky plot twists.

I've not since bothered to watch anything Urobuchi, but my experience with Madoka was second-rate.
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>>137635048
It's not like it could be any worse than the LN trash that gets adapted.
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>>137635940

>/tv/

go back to >>>/tv/ then you fucking crossboarder.
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>Hideo Kojima predicted the ass backwards fuck of society of having selective hearing
>Predicted memes

What can't this man do?
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>>137636784
But it's a pasta.
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>>137636045
He's just repeating what Marshall McLuhan already said decades earlier.
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>>137646167
Underrated jab at a retard.
Both zero and reco are trash
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>>137638876
MGSV had tons of corporate meddling and cut content. we will never see the full game ever.
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>>137638567
>and question the RULES of NATURE.
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>>137636476
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>>137636138
>As someone who studies literature at the graduate level academically
>Literature
Kek
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>>137637998

excuse me, nigger, I have ADHD and I could follow the entire Metal Gear series. Some people are just retarded.
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>>137635048
Didnt he already do that with ZOE
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Reminder that Rising has the best boss fight out of all.
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>>137635048
I'm just hoping he won't be like Inafune.
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reminder kojimbles and nasu hit it off and he likes KnK
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>>137635048
Kojima's favorite movie is Star Wars The Force Awakens.

He has garbage taste.
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What are some good manga titles to be made into vidia gem /v/?
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>>137638133
Fuck no, PW is a masterpiece
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>>137657362
>came out a few months ago
>favourite
God damn normalfags are dumb.
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>>137636476
>Nobody cares about what is often cited as the greatest game of all time
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>>137635940
>/tv/ lecturing people on writing skills

what next, /fit/ gonna lecture others on self-esteem?
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>>137636353
I can't find this girl attractive since she looks exactly like my cousin.
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>>137657295
Which KnK? There are like 4.
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>>137658778
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>>137635940
/tv/'s full of fucking redditors.
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>>137658903
Every board these days is full of fucking redditors and tumblrinas.
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>>137658903
It was definitely better when it was just a bunch of pedophiles.
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>>137636138
>he is a very skilled writer.
Yes he is. Unfortunately he's also a repetitive fuck.
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>>137658903
Just like /a/
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here
Why would you open with that? It just makes it obvious I shouldn't listen to your opinion. Or do the retards on /tv/ actually think their opinion is worthy just because they browse a board dedicated to tv and film?
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>>137658835

>nasu

which one do you think
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>>137635048
No.
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>>137658835
Anon...it's time you learned the truth...
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>>137635048
I love the original Metal Gear Solid trilogy, its good shit. But Kojima has become so narcissistic I cant wait to see how he fails at movies, anime and anything else, MGSV is the start of his decline.
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>>137643497
that's probably the SEED/Destiny of vidya overrated by idiots with no taste and hard to get through
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>>137657295
Fate/EMIYA by Kojima fucking when
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>>137657295
Nasu handling the writing, Takeuchi handling the art, and Kojima handling the overall directing?

Hmm... a magecraft/thaumaturgy/mecha game with legendary references? Think Nitro+'s Demonbane, but set in the Nasuverse...

It's so crazy, it might just work.
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>>137635048
Zone of the Enders anime collaboration with sunrise when?
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>>137636138
I know this is pasta, but
>from a technical point of view, he is a very skilled writer
>plagiarizes popular shit constantly
Please.

Though I guess he at least isn't Mari Okada.
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>>137659988
lol
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Literally the ideas guy. I've seen about 30 different articles about him since he left Konami about what he wants to do now and his new great idea he wants to work on but never fucking does anything.
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>>137660592
... you do know he helmed the FOX Engine development (which sadly stayed on Konami's hands, who use it for errything, even PES), and now he has an exclusive deal with Sony for a new series, right?
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>>137635940
>/tv/ here
No anon, you are the joke
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>>137660678
That's nice. Tell me when he actually fucking starts development for something instead of talking about 30 different ideas he wants to do.
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>>137635940
Go back to your pedo hugbox.
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>>137635467
>> I never played metal gear
fixed that for ya


No one is ready for a Kojima anime beacuse we are not all on LSD all the time. Literally watch the first hour of gameplay of the phantom pain (before I bought it) and was like wtf? But it was a good wtf. Not to mention the man knows how to make crazy detailed stories.

everything from MGS3 on gets really really deep plot wise.

also have you not played revengance?
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>>137660895
Kojima seems to be more of an Ideas guy,he used to work with another writer who many think held him back a bit for the first 3 metal gears, but he "disappeared" (funny yakuza stuff is the popular explanation) apparently so it got crazy after that
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>yfw kojima and del toro make an anime together
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>>137658835
I don't even like fate shit and I know which one he's talking about.
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>>137661033
Hello
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>>137635048
I just want a version of ZoE that isn't boring and doesn't fucking suck. Even the hackjob that is Phantom Pain read like Hemmingway by comparison. Also, I need more Ken. The writing was some of the most generic mecha shit I'd ever seen, but she was an angel.
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>>137638567
Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
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this thread is so bad it makes /v/s threads look good.

disappointed.
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>>137636138
Reminder that FSN-fags are just Shounen-lovers who whoop everytime Archer charges the bone of his sword.

Fate Zero fans watch their shows with a pen to take notes.
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>>137662260
What do you expect from a bunch of Kojima fans?
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>>137662355
Yeah, they need to stay active or else they'll fall asleep watching that snorefest.
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>>137661205
i'll take a P.T. anime
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