This show was probably discused to death the past week, but for reasons i couldn't watch the first episodes of last week, so today i finished "Rakugo Shinjuu"
Its pretty fucking amazing, got me hooked up the 47 minutes all along. Really solid contender for AOTS in my opinion
What do you think /a/ ?
>>136014525
I thought it was just okay, honestly. My real issues were that I'm not a huge fan of MC and that developments felt like they were being pushed along too briskly. I did like the rakugo and all, but I didn't think the episode was incredible or anything.
>>136014525
Thought it was quite easily the best episode so far this season. A good number of others on /a/ seem to share this opinion. However seeing as it isn't CGDCT expect it to get branded hipster, pretentious and even fujoshit by people who are really shitposting.
>>136014525
I have like nothing negative to say. It was gorgeous to look at and the direction was top notch. Characters were developed nicely right out of the gate, I like them all and I'm interested in seeing the story progress. Soundtrack is magnificent. Quite a bit happens I'm the episode but it never felt rushed, I was captivated throughout. I'm running out of things to compliment.
One of those shows that I knew would be good but was unsure of its entertainment value, I think it really delivered so thank goodness for that. Great start to the year.
>>136014525
I'm already almost certain it'll be one of the best anime of the year. Top 3.
>>136015375
Are you seriously saying you're certain a show with one episode out will be top three out of a hundred-plus shows, about forty with one episode out?
>>136015467
You say that but it's rarely hard to guess what the best stuff of the year will be. Not that guy, but with TV looking as weak this year as last it'll probably be up there if it doesn't take a nosedive in quality (which I can almost guarantee won't happen).
>>136015628
> with TV looking as weak this year as last
You've got tons of shows that aren't announced yet, and several very good ones in the wings. I just think this is really premature.
>>136014525
Pleasantly surprise how much I enjoyed watching scrawny old man sit and tell me a play. If anyone told me the anime was about watching people tell and try to pjs out a story while sitting the whole time I would have considered it boring.
It's pretty damn good and I'm glad to see that the master wasn't just out to get MC-kun.
If the quality stays the same throughout the show in terms of direction and storytelling this will definitely be one of the best anime this year.
>>136014525
It's fucking fujocrap with bishi oldman x purisoner while the shoujo is getting ntr'd.
>>136015704
Well obviously, it's just that surprises like that are pretty rare. What are you hyping this year for TV? Pretty much everything I'm really looking forward to in 2016 is a movie, there are some good ones coming out.
>>136015817
They finished animating it first quarter last year, quality should be consistently good. Director seems to have a good grasp of the content as well. I'm optimistic.
>>136014525
I give it an A+ for the premier but we'll have to see episode 2 to get a good assessment of where the series is going. It could end up being more than seasonal fodder and become a standout show in general.
I take it no fansub group will be picking it up?
>>136014525
Another meme anime.
Great
>>136014525
>know next to nothing about rakugo apart from Joshiraku, which wasn't really about rakugo
>decide to watch anyway because I enjoyed Joshiraku
>mfw
>>136015733
This. It was really nice. Even though I was watching an animation of an old man telling a story, I found myself surprisingly enthralled.
I like the characters. I like the OST. (Who knew jazz went so well with rakugo?) I like the general direction it's going.
Too early to judge how good the show is, but it is easily the best first episode I've watched so far this season. It's amazing how fast those 47 minutes passed.
I agree with much of what has already been said:
-The first episode was amazing
-it will be a fantastic show IF that level of quality can be maintained
-it will not be widely appreciated on /a/ even if it turns out to be fabulous all the way through, there's a very limited audience among anime fans for series like this
>>136018018
>-it will not be widely appreciated on /a/ even if it turns out to be fabulous all the way through, there's a very limited audience among anime fans for series like this
Have you been paying attention at all? This has had the best response of any new series' first episode this season, both on /a/ and in preorders.
>>136018195
There are tons of shows that get a lot of praise but are never widely watched just because the premise isn't appealing to your average anime watcher.
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As you can see the most popular release on nyaa in terms of downloads in only around half to two thirds as popular as similar releases for the bigger shows. A lot of a thread being positive praise isn't all that surprising when a lot of people will never touch it and the majority of people who pick it up were already wanting it to be good. This has what in the past would have been called a "vocal circlejerking fanbase" by shitposters. I mean it is more popular than one of your regularly unwatched shows that receive a lot of praise but overall its number of downloaders are pretty low. Obviously I am not saying nyaa downloads make a perfect picture but it is the most popular source of anime for regular /a/ posters.
>>136018619
Widely watched isn't the same as widely appreciated, though. I'd say this and Boku Dake have gotten more praise and pop up more in discussions of the best first episode than anything else. Something like Phantom World definitely isn't the most widely appreciated show of the season, it's just the one with everyone watching it so they can shitpost about it.
>>136018760
To be widely appreciated on /a/ surely it must first be widely watched? I wouldn't deny that it has been widely appreciated by those who have watched it though. This happens to a lot of critically acclaimed shows on /a/ while they are airing, esepecially when they are in some way different from your average show, which is usually, be it different art style or interesting direction. They tend to get relatively low number of watchers compared to whatever is flavour of the month and lots of praise from those who are actually watching. Think of it this way even, if we assume those nyaa numbers represent /a/ entirely (which obviously they don't just for sake of argument though), if half of the people who watch Phantom World even thought it was a good show there would still be more people who thought that was good than could possibly know this show was good.
>>136018760
Phantom World is appreciated, though, albeit in a completely different way. People certainly appreciate dem tiddies and Kirby and well-animated fanservice once you get past the pro-KyoAni vs anti-KyoAni shitflinging.
If anything, this show is likely to have calm, positive threads with minimal disagreement, which other shows can't necessarily boast.
>>136018884
If it continues doing well in Japanese pre-sales I don't know how long that will last though. That will attract a lot of shitposters disappointed their favourite show isn't doing well while this one is with "fujoshit" type comments and also a lot of curious people who want to see what they hype is about but will find that the show isn't really to their taste and then be mad about its success.
>>136018865
>To be widely appreciated on /a/ surely it must first be widely watched?
I guess it depends on how we're using widely watched. It's not in the most popular tier, but it's nearer to that end than to dead thread territory. I think we might be going too far into semantics here, but basically I think there is actually a fair-sized audience for this kind of show and that that audience has had a very favorable response to it.
>>136014525
6/10.
If you are a girl though, it's probably 9/10, since the catering is clear.
>>136019056
I will admit it has a larger audience currently than I was expecting and I think that is largely due to the positive response from the few people that picked it up early, word of mouth so to speak. I have seen many comments along the lines of "wasn't planning on watching this but all the positive comments got me too, I wasn't disappointed" and it is certainly larger in terms of audience than shows that would usually get thrown into the "hipster" and "pretentious" bin by people looking to shit on something for no reason. I am of course being relative when I say widely watched, relative to other anime on first episodes from this season it is not comparatively widely watched if we assume those numbers as representative.
I like a good rakugo, the show delivered very nice on it, but I am more than cautious because of the fujoshi pandering author can kick in any minute.
>>136014525
It was the best directed first episode this season like nothing else came even close to it.
Which is also interesting because it was a tv cut of two OVAs and a lot of great scenes didn't even make it into it.
>>136014525
Finally a semi-significant role for Kobayashi Yuu.
I liked it and hope it does well, it probably won't though because it's a genuinely adult comedy/drama with no fanservice.
>>136019564
>with no fanservice.
Yet.
>>136017522
If I had to use one word, it'd be 'intriguing'. I certainly appreciate the talent behind the direction and voice work, but I find the actual content somewhat boring. I plan to stick with it for a bit longer before making a decision.
>>136019564
Fujoshit centric shows nowadays dominate the sales chart.
Episode 11 is a long uncut rakugo performance.
>>136019676
It probably has something else long and uncut as well, judging by the author's sexuality.
>>136019676
Art
>>136020221
Hair?
>>136020221
>>136020380
Yeah, maybe she likes to keep her hair long.
>>136014525
The execution was excellent.
I didn't even notice it was a double length episode, because it was so engrossing.
I expect to watch this and Boku Dake ga Inai Machi.
So is Rakugo just Japanese stand-up but they kneel down instead?
>>136020433
You're only watching two shows?
Any mangafags know how the love triangle plays out aside from the obvious Konatsu conception
Will he succeed in reviving rakugo?
Will he surpass his master?
Will his master live long enough to witness it?
>>136020720
Personally I'd rather fill my time with watching only good shows from a season and older shows to supplement. I don't watch anime to keep up with /a/ or the latest memes but for my own enjoyment.
>>136020720
Probably. There are a couple others I'll give second episodes, but nothing inside of me resembles optimism.
It's two more shows than I was expecting going into this season, so I'm happy.
>>136020720
It's an improvement of my usual none.
>>136021001
>>136020907
>>136020872
I don't understand how this is your hobby if you usually find you enjoy less than one show out of thirty enough to watch it.
>>136021059
It's not my hobby actually. I'm a mangafag by trade.
>>136020837
probably
probably
no
I haven't laughed this hard at an anime for a long time. Fucking Dekigokoro.
>>136021059
It's winter. It's shit almost every year.
I also have many hobbies. If a season doesn't pan out I allocate more time to something else.
I've been watching Chinese cartoons fairly regularly since around 1997 or so. I'm too old to consistently watch shit that I don't like in order to kill time.
>>136020582
>>136020582
Yes. Would appeal more if everyone in the building is drinking.
Yakumo a shit, Sukeroku best boy
>>136021152
>>136020872
No one's implying that you should watch shit you don't like to be cool, stop getting defensive. It just seems odd that you'd find so few shows to enjoy.
>>136021152
This winter season is surprisingly good though.
But I guess that if you do other things with your time too thats fine.At least your not scum like me who does nothing but watch bad anime all dayI'm already watching 20 shows this season
>>136021152
Based anon.
>>136020720
2-3 is about average for me for any season.
>>136020720
I watched 6 shows last year in total and only one of them was something I would call unironically good. But then again I'm a normie from /tv/.
>>136021453
>But then again I'm a normie from /tv/.
And no one needed to know that.
I'm watching it for the Eva seiyuu.
>>136021477
I'm just saying that I'm not really an "anime fan". If I hadn't of said that you'd have just called me a redditor or something anyway.
the show was boring, these threads and everyone in it praising it are tryhards.
>>136021558
>my opinion is fact
>>136021453
>>136021392
Please stop posting on /a/ if you're not into anime.
>>136021614
I'll read manga all day everyday and you can't stop me.
>>136014525
So boring that the MC literally fell asleep.
>>136021622
Okay, great, you can stay. /tv/ needs to go, though.
>>136014525
So I saw that there were two OVAs released earlier this year. Should I watch those first?
>>136021492
who?
>>136021672
Old man is Kaworu
MC is Touji
One of the women is Rei
>>136021747
>Forgetting Cool Dad is Kaji
Nigger
>>136021059
>>136020720
I don't even watch airing anime. I wait till it's finished and add it to my backlog.
>>136021767
What cool dad? You mean the dead guy from the next episode that Kaworu goes homo for?
>>136021794
Yes
I'm usually a massive shouenfag when it comes to anime but I gave this show a chance because it's the start of the season and why the fuck not. I must say I was pleasantly surprised by the first episode. Great art, music and direction. Hopefully it continues on its current course.
>>136021493
>I'm just saying that I'm not really an "anime fan".
Full stops go inside the quotation marks. Learn to use English correctly if you're going to post on an English-language website.
>>136021886
>Full stops go inside the quotation marks
>Full stops
Fuck off.
>>136021952
Well, "period" refers to the punctuation symbol in general and can be used in other contexts than the full stop, while the rule for the period ending a sentence going inside quotation marks refers specifically to its use as the "full stop."
>>136021886
http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/british-versus-american-style.html
>watching homo fujoshit
naw
>>136022017
Only faglords use "full stop".
>>136014525
>wow this show seems really slow, it's not over yet
>ah it must just be me because I've been watching so much anime lately
>I'm sure it'll be over in a few minutes
And then I realized it was a 45 minute show.
>>136021236
Majority of anime is shit and I'm hugely 'into' anime. Probably watched more than the vast majority of posters on this board at around 750 shows. I only find 2-3 good shows a season that I watch all the way, maybe 10 a year and out of all of those maybe a couple in the year that are actually remarkable. Everything else ranges from watchable to trash. I likely watch as much anime as any 'I watch 30+ shows a season if you don't too you're a casual' type I just don't base my choices on what is current. I don't watch anime to discuss it with /a/ I watch it for enjoyment and participate in discussions on /a/ if it seems worthwhile.
>>136014525
>homolust gay shit
The only thing about this is it contains all the faggot mentally ill cocksuckers in one thread.
>>136022142
>Majority of anime is shit and I'm hugely 'into' anime
These two things are pretty much contradictory.
>>136022244
You can still enjoy things even though you know they are shit
homo anime
Are the majority of the episodes going to be flashbacks?
![[HorribleSubs] Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_03.46_[2016.01.10_22.43.13].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2em6WEk.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_03.46_[2016.01.10_22.43.13].jpg")
Tell me about Master? What is he such a lovely man?
>>136021092
Why do you do this, death?
Reminder that the title translates to "Rakugo lover's suicide of the Shouwa genroku era"
>>136020837
>Will he succeed in reviving rakugo?
Look at the rakugo audience in Joshiraku and you know the answer.
>>136024414
Doesn't that refer to Yakumo intending to take his rakugo art to his grave or was whoever said that in an earlier thread pulling that out of their ass?
![[HorribleSubs] Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_30.20_[2016.01.09_16.57.47].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UUNJpTI.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_30.20_[2016.01.09_16.57.47].jpg")
Is Yakumo trying to vicariously defeat Sukeroku through Yotaro?
>>136021614
Why would I force myself to watch currently-airing shit I don't enjoy to justify my being on /a/, when I could drop what I don't like and read manga or watch any of the tons of better, already aired shows.
Just because I don't watch more than 2-4 shows every season doesn't mean I don't like anime.
>>136021614
This is the dumbest mentality.
>>136022653
Manga has two guys sleeping together, crossdressing, shota bath scene... Homoest anime of the season.
>>136025865
Psst, hey kid
Wanna revive Rakugo?
Is the past of the old guy the main part of the story?
>>136026122
Yes.
>>136014525
>Its pretty fucking amazing, got me hooked up the 47 minutes all along. Really solid contender for AOTS in my opinion
I agree. I like the concept and the fact that the main character is a former prisoner. I'm sure I'm not the first person to say this, but I'm curious how are they going to handle the remaining episodes.
Is Yakumo going to do a Tommy Cooper? Keel over during a performance and leave this world to rapturous applause because the audience thinks it's part of the act?
>>136025726
We still have a second cour of Osomatsu-san.
It was great but the incoming homo shit is definitely detrimental to it.
>yfw the snore scene
>>136027757
>>136027757
>>136026173
>that under thigh peek
Whoa nelly.
>>136027757
>>136026173
Do both of the homos go after that chick or is the girl on the train with Yakumo in the PV someone else? I can't tell without the gaudy makeup
>>136028317
Have more lewd.
This is a good show(7/10 first episode) and I like it but as soon as I watch the first few minutes of it I knew /a/ would overrate it and start throwing AOTS/AOTY claim.
You faggots always do this when a show is "different", no matter the actual quality.
Rakugo is stupid, they tell the same stories over and over again.
>>136014525
>Studio DEEN
I can't believe it.
>>136029310
>I knew /a/ would overrate it and start throwing AOTS/AOTY claim.
>You faggots always do this when a show is "different", no matter the actual quality.
That's why everyone's AOTS last season was Subete ga F ni naru, right?
Oh wait no, you're full of shit.
>>136014525
>This show was probably discused to death the past week
No one has even heard of it until now
>>136029499
>Subete ga F ni naru
Not really that different though.
I'm talking about shits like Uchouten Kazoku, Barakamon and Ping Pong. From those 3 only Ping Pong was near 10/10 but even that was overrated by /a/.
ITT: Pretentious fags who think they smart and try to fit in by appreciate this hipster show what they called "art".
>>136028470
I only took a quick look at the manga, I'm too lazy to read the text, but it seems there's some kind oflove triangle and NTR.
>>136029613
>Not really that different though.
Stop moving the goalposts.
Novel (not LN) adaptations are already different by nature.
Being a slow paced detective story with chara design by Asano, you're going to have a hard time making anime more "different" than that.
The fact is if your argument is easily disproven by a show that aired last season it's not a good argument even if you can think of a few good examples.
>>136029310
Glad you like it.
>>136029468
anime is stupid, they tell the same stories over and over again.
>>136014525
Boring as fuck, Chihayafuru is zilion times better than this pile of turd.
>Called it "art" because its "different".
Loving this meme.
>>136027757
>>136029881
I like both.
Only anime could make me care about obscure japanese shit like Rakugo or Karuta.
Overrated shit with vocal circlejerking fanbase.
>>136030084
Oh wow, haven't seen this reply in a while.
Can we believe DEEN has made this at the same time?
>>136031681
I can believe that Shinichi Omata who went through the Shaft school is doing a great job with this Rakugo show.
I just hope it doesn't get too gay and I like the chemistry between thief and redheaded ward too much to want to suffer through flashbacks for most of the show.
>>136031813
The quick cuts and close-ups that is commonly seen to be shaft like were used during the rakugo sequence in the middle. They were just more toned down than in something like bake.
>>136031813
Shaft influence is pretty clear. Are you saying that's no good? I'm not the biggest Shinbo fan but he's far from bad, and Oishi is great.
>>136029660
Dropped.
>>136032480
>Shaft influence is pretty clear.
Is it really? When you strip away the minimalist ugly backgrounds, flat colors and shinbo-esque nouvelle vague bullshit it doesn't look like Shaft at all.
The show reminds me way more of something like Sakamichi no Apollon.
>>136032480
>Are you saying that's no good?
How could you read that?
>the part around 23:30 when the music starts to play
so good!
>>136018619
I downloaded most of them in 1080p though.
>>136033600
>I can't believe [shaft school of direction] is doing a great job
>>136034213
Read again I guess.
Whats the show about?
Seems interesting at least from the comments so could someone give a little rundown on it?
>>136031994
>>136032480
Agree with these two to be honest I think the SHAFT is pretty obvious in the direction just toned down and without the other visual elements of SHAFT aesthetic.
>>136034295
Convict leaves prison and tries to become a rakugo performer.
>>136034257
Oh shit, my bad
>>136034598
I want to fuck Yotaro desu
>>136034598
Wow, an actual >v< Face.
![[HorribleSubs] Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_06.20_[2016.01.09_14.57.07].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DDDfqUd.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_06.20_[2016.01.09_14.57.07].jpg")
>>136034636
Who doesn't?
>>136034598
Won't most of the episodes focus on the past? That seemed like all the PVs were about
