This is the death of Gohan as a chracter. Now he is an Oolong, a relic from a forgotten past.
so....he became a bland background character. I'm pretty sure lots of people in the DBS universe lives in a house with their family. How does this make him entertaining or interesting in any way?
Should we lower our standards just to be contrarians and say "who cares if he's boring and not cool, at least he has a family"
Not all of the characters are dedicated to fighting. Some of them only fight casually or when they are forced to. It was stated many, numerous fucking times, even by Gohan himself, that he didn't like fighting. So now here we are when he's older and he has everything he always wanted, and now you faggots claim he's a "bland background character". Just fuck off back to /v/ this is a bait thread anyway.
The kid that was pathetic and worthless at young age.
Then he grew older only to murder his father after failing to stop Cell properly.
After becoming an Adult he FAILS to stop Buu and dies again making the situation far worse than before.
Great Character. Lots of potential utterly wasted since he is a complete failure as a fighter.
Its good that he now sticks to his real skill.
Yes, but this is Dragonball. If this was like a sitcom or a slice-of-life then yeah he has a family. Having a family isn't really character, it's Toriyama once again being a shitty writer. Gohan was being built up as the next Goku and Goten was shown training a lot. But Goku had to stay the MC so everyone else are just jobbers. It's not about fun adventures, it's just powerlevels and meaningless fights with no emotional impact whatsoever.
Dragonball always had the worst writing even by shonen standards. For fucks sake SSG and Golden Frieza are fanfiction levels of cringe. Toriyama even forgets his own characters sometimes and just introduces new ones that weren't foreshadowed early on. He's like an elementary school student writing a fanfic about fighting.
>"Oh wow, Frieza! One of the most powerful tyrants in the universe! Humans don't stand a chance!"
>"But wait! Someone on earth created a being more powerful than Frieza!"
>"Wait! There's this ancient creature that was more powerful all along!"
>"There was actually a god of destruction all this time! He wasn't foreshadowed or anything, but he's there!"
No one likes Dragonball for writing. But Gohan doesn't even have much character at this point. He's not interesting or entertaining in any way. "B-but he has a family!" So do a lot of background characters.
I love the time change in Xenoverse when Buu decided "you know what fuck fighting Gohan, i'm just going to blow up the Earth"
It's not even that he's a failure at fighting. He just fails to be...anything. Why should I even care about this character? What does he do that's compelling or fun? He's just there, he just exists. There's no point to this character.
>It was stated many, numerous fucking times, even by Gohan himself, that he didn't like fighting.
He didn't liked but he still did fight. He always tried hard to help his friends, he trained even when he was literally worthless next to Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and Trunks even though he didn't like it.
But now, for whatever reason (writer's convenience desu) he suddenly stops training even threats keep appearing one after the other and it's supposedely fine now.
Look, nobody is asking for him to be strongest or the protagonist again. But is it really too damn much to ask for one of the main characters to be somewhat relevant? Even Piccolo's process of fading into background was sort of gradual and he still had his moments; Gohan went literally from number one to zero.
Gohan was a major character in Dragon Ball Z which combined with he fact that he was Goku's son came off as him seeming to be the next main character. I'm sorry you're upset that didn't come true but have you ever tried really thinking about how Gohan is as a character? He's a shit fighter despite his innate power, peaceful, somewhat more bland than goku, and hates fighting. He would make a bad main character and that path wouldn't fit his stated past goals.
>"He wasn't foreshadowed or anything, but he's there!"
Heard this from a lot of people lately, bitching about new plot and why it just simply emerged. You can't foreshadow everything nor do you have to, and no that's not bad writing because not everything has to be foreshadowed anyway. Foreshadowing only serves to alert the reader/viewer of important details and future events. It also strengthens the buildup and climax of a story and in an ongoing series like this, you can't foreshadow something you haven't even created yet.
He was 5 years old then. Now that he has his own brain, personality, and goals, he chose a different life. Also he doesn't even need to train anymore considering he knows Goku and Vegeta.
>Gohan fans continue to be outraged at how he does things unrelated to fighting in a fighting anime
This is a battle shonen, not a slice of life anime. It'd be as if in K-ON one of the most beloved characters just dropped out of the light music club. It's a fucking light music anime.
>be one of a handful of of people out of countless trillions who can actually fight against world-ending terrors from deep space
>the son of one of the most powerful beings to ever exist, but who has been killed several times to illustrate the gravity of their situation
>lol nah I'll be a teacher instead
Whether he likes fighting or not, he doesn't really have a choice and he used to understand that
Vegeta rightfully mocked him before the whole Buu saga for that
>not realizing its just Gohan being Gohan this episode wanting to show off his family to his friend from the future
>Gohan didn't even ask why FTrunks came by anyway
Then you might as well drop it now
Goten and Gohan will have a super arc just you wait ;_;
It's not like getting trained by Piccolo will make much of a difference anyway. He'll be lucky if he gets to SS2 again and that just won't cut it. It's better if he just sticks to being a scholar. Better to be a successful scholar and a jobber than a full-time jobber.
His brother won't make the same mistake, For he shall rise up and become a warrior worthy of his resemblance to Bardock and Goku unlike his pathetic trash-tier "Scholar" brother.
He fought because of editors' meddling. Gohan in Super is consistent with his characterization.
Besides, Toei made Gohan a lot braver in 90's because Koyama wanted another messianic self-insert just like his incarnation of Goku.
90's DBZ anime fucked up Toriyama's characterizations a lot just to appeal to 11 years old kids.
>Muh selfless Goku who cared about the others
>Muh overexaggerated education mama
>Muh brave Gohan
those 3 things never existed in the manga.
They are pretty good man.
Legend of the Ultimate by AlphaDelta1001 reviews
There is a point in time where a hero discovers his true potential. One hero in particular, has already discovered it. Watch as Gohan grows and discovers his ture power! COMPLETE
A classic masterpiece.
Gimme one good fanfic where Goten and Trunks are both given their own identity (separate from one another) are the main characters don't rely on the other characters for everything and also fulfil their potential and i will retract my statement.
Exactly, It's either Raditz fics, Goku fics or Vegeta fics, sometimes there are quality Gohan fics but it is overall difficult to find a decent one that isn't just Ultimate Gohan throughout the whole damn fanfic.
Gohan's whole deal since the beginning is that he has a way bigger potential than anyone else in the cast. It started to die in the Buu arc but now it's definitely gone in Super.
Can't let anyone steal the spotlight from Goku and Vegeta.
Intangible by chainsmokingnun
But here is Trunks. With the sweet smell of cinnamon rum on his lips, the ever present rise and fall of his chest, the bluest eyes he’d ever seen. They’d been friends ever since they came out of the womb. But now he felt intangible. If Goten reached out to touch him, he’d become a cloud of dust.
Yet another one for the ages.
There are a few that i have personally liked although they may not be your taste.
Wish for the past
A misspoken wish lands Goten in the past, traveling alongside Bardock, the grandfather he never knew. Concerned for his friend's safety, Trunks soon joins him, and together they travel from Vegeta-sei to Earth, trying to find a way back home. -Complete-
Order and Might
AU: Goku has the same accident that erased his memories and blood-thirsty Saiyan nature...on Planet Vegeta. In a galaxy ruled by power and violence, one boy and his group of outcasts is about to change the world. Featuring humans, Saiyans, and eventually, Namekians.
Never Ever Land
Guess the inspiration! A young Bulma embarks on an unexpected adventure with Goku, Krillin and a certain orphaned Prince, but the galaxy holds different sorts of adventures than Bulma has been used to so far. Not really as kid-friendly as a Disney film, hence the M rating for language, themes and hopefully some blood, guts and sex, but just like life, it starts out innocently.
Unfortunately it has been a long time since i read a Gohan fic, been more of into Goku-related stuff recently since i tired of the Vegeta central fics.
In return have another fic that i have personally enjoyed a bit with Goku as the central character.
In Pursuit of Vengeance
Raditz takes a different approach when he meets Goku, resulting in a successful retrieval of his brother. Goku is introduced to the planetary trade, but the Planet Trade may be in for more than they bargained for with the third class Saiyan's presence stirring up trouble no one saw coming.
It may sound like a typical "Raditz is merciful fic" but the first chapter quickly throws any notion of that away and while Goku is darker then in canon he still retains the same base personality in canon, one of my favorite plot points is when
Goku is trained by Frieza
>Trunks leaves at the end of the episode
>Say Gohan, why did Trunks come back in time again?
>Oh, I forgot to ask!
For any person with a functioning brain, that would've been the first thing they'd ask. Instead, Gohan buys him ice cream. That was some fucking shitty writing.
Well, he just never liked figthing as much as his father did, and even if he liked it for a while, after surviving all the shit that happened to him since the begining of DB Z it is no surprise he came to dislike it more and more.
What did Chi-Chi mean by this?
No it isn't. He hasn't seen Trunks in god knows how many years and was a valued friend during those dark times facing cell. Catching up with an old friend gets you excited that you forget things.
Besides retard, if he asked Trunks would have said he wanted to check up on his old master.
This wouldn't be a point of such butthurt if they had just let Goku kill Cell. Having Gohan kill him implied a passing of the torch, which was immediately taken back with Buu. It felt really uncomfortable.
Gohan killing Cell is the source of all Gohanfags frustration to this day.
>Well, he just never liked figthing as much as his father did
Which is what actually makes him a likeable and relatable character. He doesn't fight because he wants to, but because he has to.
Goku is pretty much an unlikeable douchebag now that would pick a fight with the king of everything and destroy the multiverse through it if the guy looked strong, just to satisfy his fucking fightingboner. Vegeta got his entire character development murdered, apart from the occasional "Muh Bulma!" moment. Everyone else isn't even a background character anymore. The fucking Pilaf Gang probably has the most screentime of the side characters, apart from Bulma, the Cat and the blue faggot.
The only good thing to come of Super was short hair bulma and her sister. And we'll probably never see her again, so there really is no hope left here.
>Last thread was pretty good and discussing several things
>Gohanfags jump at a new thread to have the same discussion for the 10th time today
And some don't understand why everyone is full of their shit.
Trying to show her future daughter in law the correct way of pleasing her son.
How do you think she's dealt with the loneliness while Goku was dead? They live in the middle of bum fuck nowhere, it's not like anyone would find out.
So, since Future Trunks got to reunite with Gohan, when will we get Trunks and 18: the most awkward silence in history?
I was the last Gohanfag on /a/. But it's over bros. Our Gohan will never get fit again and be capable of protecting his loved ones.
Just hold out, if he doesn't enter the Multiverse tournament then he's gone forever.
Gohanfags don't know when it's time to give up.
>I was the last Gohanfag on /a/
no you aren't, I'll never abandon my boy Gohan
Well, if he were an actual human being, I'd be happy for him. But he's a character in a martial arts anime. Not only that, he's potentially one of the most powerful ones. He could be on par with Vegeta and Goku. Of course we want him to fight; in this show you're irrelevant if you don't.
Did they ever follow up on that training he said he was going to do after the RoF arc?
But I think Gohan is done, his character arc has been completed. He was never a fighting junkie like his father, and only fought when he needed to. Take all your hopes and dream from Gohan, and put them into Pan now.
>only 40 posters
>thread is a super discussion
He looked a bit buffer now than in the ROF arc, but other than that not really. He wanted to enter the Universe 6 tournament to show off his powers but had a conference.
>Of course we want him to fight; in this show you're irrelevant if you don't.
>The character that likely saved earth and the entire universe more often than anyone else with her inventions (e.g. time machines, spaceships, training chambers, dragon radar)
What's that? You want Gohan to become part of the main cast again? That's a perfect way to add more drama! Trunks just got to see him happy, too.
Time to fix that.
So, what's your greatest fear for this saga?
Mine is that Future Trunks won't be a viable candidate to take down Black and it'll be up to Goku or Vegeta. After all he's been through, Trunks deserves this victory.
Please, the only ones "crying" are the faggots who don't anything better to do than shitpost on /a/. Toriyama is just doing what he knows to do; being lost to what to do with the non Goku characters.
>She is the second artificial human, between her and her twin brother, designed by Dr. Gero to be created by fitting a human being with both bio-mechanical and cybernetic enhancements. The bio-mechanical enhancements are organic substances patterned after human cells, which makes it possible for Cell to merge with the androids at a cellular level. Gero's experiments on her do not impede her ability to reproduce, as evidenced by her giving birth to a healthy daughter, Marron. Since they are human-based, she and her brother can become stronger if they train. Though they do not need to eat, they do need to hydrate. Also, their cells deteriorate slowly, so they age slowly too.
They're already most of the way there, and there is no way in hell they're going to be stopping this show anytime soon seeing how well it is doing for them. Also
Definitely, I think it's even more important that Trunks gets this one as I don't see him coming back outside of this arc or possibly another Universal arc, which I don't see happening any time soon.
YOU WANT GOHAN TO FIGHT AGAIN DON'T YOU?
LET HIM FIGHT.
SEE HOW WELL HE HANDLES HIMSELF.
I bet he'll make a disappointing corpse, too.
He's buff under his clothing again and hiding his power level! He can take Black!
I'm willing to bet my hand virginity!
Videl's taken some pretty nasty beatings hasn't she. Maybe that's why she decided to become a moeblob.
That just means it's time for a new generation to take over.
That Mai really gets killed off before she can experience superior SAIYAN cock
you can tell he's been training since the
check these gains
Be careful of what you say, anon. You don't wanna end up like this guy, right?
TIME FOR TRUNKS TO SUFFER FURTHER.
I want my hand held too, desu.
He already went blue.
>Who is Bulma
Besides Arale could still kick Goku's ass. She got hit by a laser with her guard down and it didn't even hurt her.
Gohan is the worthless edgy faggot people wnat him to be in the Future Trunks timeline, so sadly he died like a dog in a puddle of water before he could impregnate Satan's spawn and have the child baptized in the ritual to awaken god
Bulma is easily the third most important character in Super. She has a played a central role in every arc so far whether it functioning as the point of communication between Whis/Beerus and the Earth or inventing crucial shit(dragon radar, time machine).
Blame the nips for liking Goku better than Teen Gohan.
It's really the oldfags fault that things turned out this way. They're always on about dragonball original being the best.
>died on the street like a mutt
>weak pussy who couldn't even beat a weaker version of android 18
>probably a virgin
>one of the strongest in the universe
>Loving family, drowning in pussy(Chi-chi(read kamehasutra), Videl)
Future Trunks confirmed that Future Gohan had no family last episode, nigga.
>Loving family, drowning in pussy(Chi-chi(read kamehasutra)
I'm still convinced that Goten is Gohan's son. It makes perfect sense.
>probably a virgin
nah m8 he was enjoying bulmas pussy behind trunks back
But he was born with Goku's hairstyle!
Yet somehow, the characters that don't fight anymore, like Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin and 18 continue to be way more entertaining as characters then the ones that do fight like Goku and Vegeta.
I'm happy for Gohan to only fight when he NEEDS too. He had a full character arc spanning 200+ episodes in DBZ and I'm satisfied with it's conclusion. Z was Gohan's series, Super isn't.
>from a gohanfag complaining gohan isn' t an edgy "badass" avenger like in his fanfics
go to bed, kid
>Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin and 18 continue to be way more entertaining as characters then the ones that do fight
DBS characters are very flandarized, but Piccolo and Krillin look like the butt monkeys.
Sakura, is, like, the polar opposite of Bulma in super.
If you count it out she participates in a ton of fights -- she just never actually does anything relevant to the story, ever.
He doesn't even look like Piccolo anymore, Jesus Christ.
He always goes above and beyond. It makes him look even better because nobody expects anything of him. He went up against Frieza, Imperfect/Perfect Cell and even had a little skirmish against Kid Buu( though I think this one was only anime filler). He's earned his perfect waifu and qt daughteru.
If Trunks went back in time and gave kid Bulma a pea, and kid Bulma chokes on it, it would split the timeline. Bulma would be fine in Trunks' timeline, but there wouldn't be a Trunks in that one.
That's why him pussying out against Frieza's men really pissed me off in DBS. In RoF he had no problem dealing with them -- which is how it should be. Even if for some retarded reason Krillin forgot he was stronger than these guys, Krillin doesn't turn into a massive bitch when he's way out of his league like Vegeta does.
I skipped the RoF arc in Super. I only watched near the end to see Ginyu's short comeback which wasn't in the movie. But did he really pussy out?
I watched the 2 movies. Can I jump straight into the Future Trunks arc?
Wise choice. It's fucking pathetic.
I could only find spanish sub clips, but it's apparent how out of character this moment is without being able to read a single word.
You can, your not missing anything. Unless you want to watch the U6 vs U7 arc which had it's moments and introduced Zeno who is the omnipotent god of all 12 universes. Also the Goku vs Hit fight was pretty nice. But yes, overall you can skip and jump straight into this arc.
He cries in front of Frieza's men. Krillin in Super is beyong pathetic and thanks to Toei. I don't care if it was filler, the man who faced Super Buu knowing he was going to die just to give time to his family to escape deserves some respect.
Future Trunks will always have blue hair in every upcoming game.
Gohan will be totally forgotten when Goku and vegeta goes back in time. Gohan wont even be in the univesal tournamament.
DBS will end with a new ending that will maken the orginal ending not canon. Thanks Akira... you fucking hack.
All the previous eps were just retellings of BoG and RoF with the occassional filler. The universe tourney was simply fleshing out the lore and introducing characters without any real development. This arc is where anything new actually begins.
You're already wrong on that.
>Gohan is likeable because he doesn't want to fight.
More like generic. There is bunch of characters in anime/manga that keep their "B-but I just want a normal life" whining during the whole story and just like Gohan said characters have some convenient latent potential that kicks in when he gets mad.
Goku on the other hand is neither a hero nor he wants a peaceful life. He is just a happy, retarded, barbaric martial artists that loves fighting and some times he happens to save the day in the process.
If you want more Gohan just pick up any other shonen or battle harem.
I don't know what super is doing, is it trying to fit better with the manga canon? Even future Gohan's death was a near perfect fit to the old history of Trunks manga than the short movie.
the difference between "other anime" and gohan is gohan is the progenitor
He's studying gag character powers.
>A one dimensional character is more interesting than characters with more deep to them even when there are few scenarios where Goku can punch the villain for 3 episodes before it turn too formulaic.
Gohan isn't boring because he doesn't want to the most special snowflake and his dynamics with Videl were great. He is an easy ongoing dude that likes to punch thugs with his girlfriend. Otherwise Gohan would be boring as fuck.
The difference is that the other shonen MC are faggot that have a complicated relantionship with a male rival, can't man up and tell the girl they want her and when they see boobs they faint.
Super has always been based around the Manga canon with a few exceptions like Gregory the cricket which was made by Toriyama.
Thats why the Revival of F arc ignored all the anime filler about Freiza and Cell in hell which never appeared in the manga
Trunks is going to cuck his younger self for sure.
spot on desu
these underage b& are jelly af right now
I don't think you can compare what happened to Videl to any other character, even the wife characters.
She didn't just become softer or stop fighting -- she lost every ounce of personality she had. She's pretty much an empty void now. Just try and write a description of who Videl is as she is now without mentioning her relationships to other characters.
Don't blame super for DBZ actions. Pic related is the moment she dropped her confident, action girl attitude.
>Pic related is the moment she dropped her confident, action girl attitude.
Again, if that were the only thing she lost we'd be having a different conversation.but it isn't. Videl in Super isn't just less of an action girl or whatever, she's basically a blank slate. She has no personality traits, no motivations, no opinions, no chemistry with other characters -- nothing. She's a void.
The Videl we knew died between Z and the Buu saga and Gohan just married her sister who had the same name.
What's that? Videl too? Why didn't you say so!
Let's make sure it happens to Gohan first though. She can watch.
I think she was still semi important to the whole Android deal, if only due to her future self and her building the remote to detonate the androids too. It was actually Krillin that fucked up that one because he wanted to get his dick wet.
Perfect. Trunks has been too happy lately anyway.
Let's see those dreams fade.
>she can watch
her reaction would probably be her looking for a few seconds, then smiling and/or sighing, followed by her walking away with her head angled downwards and her eyes closed.
you know, like every single other thing she's reacted too.
>Only one reaction to anything.
Oh my god.
Videl is an android!
This fucking kills me so much, I loved her in DBZ and now she's completely destroyed. Even Chichi was treated better than her, why did Toriyama ruin Videl? Just why her?
You know how to kill someone's fun.
Fine. Videl goes first, then Gohan.
Pan can watch.
>Pan can watch.
NO HURT PAPA
>killing the baby last
>the creature that has no context for anything that is happening and probably doesn't understand the full extent of what she is seeing.
You're not very good at this, are you?