![Accel_World_06[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FBo6cc7.jpg "Accel_World_06[1].jpg")
>The biggest complaint with SAO is that Kirito is a Mary Sue and Klein wasn't developed enough
>Rewrite SAO with a flawed protagonist and a male best friend that's actually important to the plot
>Far less popular than SAO
You can't explain that!
>Flawed
You mean fat and ugly?
>>144252909
Yeah, you just named two flaws (among many others).
The biggest problem with SAO was fucking all of it.
>>144252956
/thread
People with taste won't like it just because you removed one shit factor of that crap, while shiteaters can't self-insert into a fat fag so they also don't like it.
>>144252747
>Far less popular than SAO
Who gives a shit about the opinion of literally no one who matters.
Decide for yourself if accel shit is better than SAO, popularity is irrelevant.
It's not like you have anything better to do with your time you fucking faggot.
Haru doesn't happen to have looks by his side concerning attracting the female audience unlike Kirito though.
Literally the reason why Accel World isn't more acknowledged is because of Haru not looking like your typical anime boy.
No generic pretty appearance for boyes to self-insert into.
No generic pretty appearance for girls to slobber over.
>>144252747
I actually want to fuck him and I have no idea why.
>>144254659
>I actually want to fuck him and I have no idea why.
As the Uke or Seme?
>>144252747
The main problems of SAO's author aren't Gary Stu or self-inserts; his problem is that he is absolutely abysmal at depicting interpersonal relationships.
Since, for some absurd reason, SAO is somewhat less reliant on those, it ends up being a far better show.
>>144254865
If he's so bad why is he so popular?
>>144252747
>Taku
Relevant
>>144254745
As either.
>>144254910
He is pretty good at introducing virtual worlds that people feel both familiar and still slightly different from norm to get involved into. Both SAO and Accel World had a really strong introduction; SAO even introduces more as it goes on, while Accel gets boring faster down the line.
>>144252747
The only good that ever came out of it was KuroyukiHime
>>144252747
Straight up, that fat fuck is ugly and unappealing. It's not just because he's fat, he's so fucking out of place, even in his own series. It's like watching Eric Cartman: The Animation.
>Boohoo I have no friends
>Except for this top tier cute girl
This is wish fulfillment in its highest form. At least Kirito wasn't an absolute loser before he got into the game.
>>144255020
I never got this argument. A lot of anime, manga, and LNs are wish fulfillment fantasies so why it's wrong here?
![638ce9a6d1fbb8e1e424abbf547cb511[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iqFEBy0.jpg "638ce9a6d1fbb8e1e424abbf547cb511[1].jpg")
>>144255000
>The only good that ever came out of it was KuroyukiHime
Could she have been as good as she was without Haru?You also forgot about based Ash Roller, true best boy.
>>144255000
Pretty much this desu senpai
>>144252747
Anime Eric Cartman
>derp_commander is STILL taking off his trip to make stealth SAO threads
he can't keep getting away with it
>>144255151
>Make Ash RollerFemaleprotagonist.
FUND IT
I actually liked accell world while I watched it. I should have finished it. I'm going to find it and watch it again. ;_;
>>144255134
repressed memories, leave it alone.
>>144252747
Accel world was even more for self-insertion. Fatty manlet paired with top beauty makes no sense at all
>>144255379
>Their personalities are almost the direct opposite of eachother but they have the same BMI
>That's enough to make them the same character
>>144255134
As niggers would say, theirs levels to this shit. You should at least try to veil the fact that it's a nerd fantasy, one way to do that is by making the otherwise loser protag likeable.
I'm a fat, ugly, loser, with no friends, and this girl likes me because I'm good at video games is literally the highest tier of pandering.
>>144253932
>No generic pretty appearance for boyes to self-insert into.
But him being a fattie makes him more relatable to me. I can't get excited about girls being attracted to yet another pretty boy like I can that an overweight guy who's good at games can attract girls.
>>144255809
Sorry to inform you, but you suck at video games
the better series is the one with the best loli which I dont even have to tell anyone here
>>144255641
yes
>>144255796
>with no friends
But that's wrong, did you even watch this show? He has two very close friends, which is a lot more than most of the target audience has. Hell, even most normies can't say they have two very best friends in the whole world they'd fully trust with everything.
Why couldn't an ultra cute yamato nadeshiko make this show popular?
>>144252747
Pro-tip: the people who criticise SAO are a minority.
SAO is incredibly popular among teenagers because it provides a self-insert power fantasy for chuunis with a superiority complex and a romance between a 'cute' couple for teenage girls to fawn over.
Accel World is better, but it doesn't have the same mass appeal, simply because chuuni kids don't like to identify with the fat, whiny midget who probably reminds them too much of themselves, and girls don't like him because he's ugly.
>>144253107
Because often times, popularity dictates whether you'd get more of the series and gets better funding. It would definitely suck if your favorite mango and animu got abruptly cancelled and thus given a shitty rushed ending, especially for some manga, if not enough people like it right?
>>144255991
>even most normies
yes they do, normies generally have more fulfilling relationships than nerds because their relationships aren't based on dependency and desperation, they actually hang out with people they like, not just the only people who can tolerate them.
It's not MC being fat and ugly that's the problem, it's him being a crybaby faggot
It's okay to have a bit of that in a character, it's just too much
But that's not even why I dislike Accel World. Its worldbuilding is just plain bad and unappealing.
SAO had a better idea but everything else except its worldbuilding was butchered so I'd still prefer Accel World in the end.
>>144256080
no himecut
![vlcsnap-2012-07-18-14h14m50s191[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/9CJ9KWU.png "vlcsnap-2012-07-18-14h14m50s191[1].png")
>>144256080
Because there's nothing insecure fags fear more than an alpha woman.
>>144256134
http://time.com/3748090/friends-social-health/
>ccording to data from the General Social Survey (GSS), the number of Americans who say they have no close friends has roughly tripled in recent decades. “Zero” is also the most common response when people are asked how many confidants they have, the GSS data show.
>>144252909
As well as insecure, lazy, self hating, socially awkward and short.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4khcbm_accel-world-infinite-burst-first-7-min-preview_tv
>>144256260
>confidants
Female metrics of what a close friend is, I have a good friend, and we don't talk about deep shit, but he's backed me up in fights, and will loan me money when I'm broke. That's a friend, not someone I confide in.
Literally only women have good friends by that metric.
>>144256176
This
>>144256166
I think you're comparing apples and oranges. Most of Accel World did not actually take place in the accelerated world, but in the near-future real build and is mostly confined to a high school setting. It did not really need extensive world building because it's more of a vidya anime than a real isekai.
Contrasting to SAO, where the players are actually stuck in another world for long periods of time. The accelerated world doesn't have to be that extensive by the show's nature.
>>144256433
Diff anon here a best friend is someone you not only back up or loan money, its someone you'd trust with secrets and your life problems, its someone outside of family(usually) that you can be around like they were. Thats a true bestie in my opinion
>>144256402
>Sky Raker fight scene
HYPE
>>144256556
It's not the amount or detail of the worldbuilding that put me off, it was the idea itself.
I'm not against the real world high school thing, in fact I'm all for it. It's been a long time since I watched it though (didn't finish it mind you), so I might give it one more chance anon.
>>144253932
>Literally the reason why Accel World isn't more acknowledged is because of Haru not looking like your typical anime boy.
Accel World doesnt hav cute busty niece lusting for the mc either
>>144255020
>It's like watching Eric Cartman: The Animation
That makes it sound like a great fucking show.
Movie airs next week. How long does it usually take till home release come out?
>>144256582
>bestie
Are you underage by any chance?
People expect too much, friends have falling outs on occasion, hence why it's best not to spill all your secrets, me and my best friend have literally come to blows and beat the crap out of each other, and we were still cool a couple days later.
Thinking someone needs to know your secrets and keep them is an immature measurement of friendship, nobody needs to know your secrets, spilling secrets is more of a therapeutic catharsis for the individual because they do nothing for the friend except give them more things to keep secret.
As for life problems, nothing to talk about, when you're an adulst everyone hasa the same problems.
Women
Money
Health
Talking about this shit in passing is fine, I had a buddy, grown man practically blubbering about losing a woman and i thought it was weak af, not even gonna lie, seeing a grown man bawl his eyes are, was pathetic, and did nothing for our friendship.
Whatever floats your goat though.
>>144252747
SAO became so popular because it was a generic fantasy MMO with self inserting shit.
>>144256080
Because she wants to fuck a pig.
>>144256807
7 months to a year.
>>144256807
Damn, look at that loli 5head.
![Accel+World+-+20+Domination_1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/yUMOZ9v.jpg "Accel+World+-+20+Domination_1[1].png")
>>144256839
>Are you underage by any chance?
I'm the original guy who posted the Time link, so try reading it again. In 'murika (and there's no reason to suspect Western Europe is any different) the number of people who say they have no close friends has tripled. What has expected isn't expectations, but how much the average American can live up to them.
>I had a buddy, grown man practically blubbering about losing a woman and i thought it was weak af, not even gonna lie, seeing a grown man bawl his eyes are, was pathetic, and did nothing for our friendship.
Which is exactly why close friends are a neccessity for many people: to have someone to confide in without fear of being judged. This may also be why male suicides rates are so high lately: without close friends, who isn't going to judge them when they're not constantly a stoic, feelingless wall?
>>144256949
Are you saying you wouldn't a pig?
>>144252747
People don't actually want what they say they want.
>>144256994
>What has expected
*what has CHANGED
That'll teach me not to proofread.
>2016
>not just watching Overlord instead
>>144256582
>its someone you'd trust with secrets and your life problems, its someone outside of family(usually) that you can be around like they were.
Nonsense. I've got friends I've known for 20 years, with which I've been through thick and thin and I'd lose my mind if I had to live with them everyday for more than a few weeks. And forget about wasting everybody's time telling them all my problems.
Good friends are made based on either shared experiences or intellectual complicity. Forget about all the touchy-feely nonsense, it never lasts.
>>144256582
>bestie
Kill yourself.
>>144253932
>>144252747
You do realize Accel World's popularity was the only reason SAO was novelized right?
Sure it's less popular than SAO now, but acting like nobody likes it is stupid as shit
>>144256994
Well, in her defense VR corkscrew dicks are probably quite addicting.
As annoying as it was to watch Kirito be stupidly overpowered, a protagonist that's too strong is always preferable to a whiny beta MC. I'd much rather watch an MC beat up bad guys in a single sword slice than watch some beta faggot cry over some stupid shit, while also inexplicably being surrounded by cute girls who wouldn't give him the time of day in any realistic scenario.
>>144252747
It came across as really pathetic. Like the author realized that his audience too pathetic to imagine they could ever be Kirito, so had to make his protagonist fat, ugly and basically useless so the readers could self-insert.
Shit's insulting, man. It's the absolute nadir of a male fantasy, because you don't even have to be physically attractive. No man, just be yourself and girls will fawn over you for your computer-gaming skills.
![7cb84b8736923dc26ea3024e8d204314[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bCEUThz.jpg "7cb84b8736923dc26ea3024e8d204314[1].jpg")
>>144257293
>I can't watch anything without self-inserting
>>144257320
These are, in fact, self-insertion novels. Most LNs are. The male reader is - on some level - supposed to go "Man, I could be that guy."
There's no reason to be pathetic even in your most febrile fantasies.
>>144256402
Rad
Why is Ash Roller so based?
It didn't have cool metal skull guy with cool voice.
>>144256080
Frankly, you could make this show insanely dark by making Cyan Pile the protagonist. He takes out KYH when she's in a coma, beats Silver Crow.
Now both of them fucking loathe each other, and a memory-wiped KYH starts expression interest in Taku. Then the Red King dies at the hands of Yellow Radio while hunting Chrome Disaster, and shit breaks out into a new war.
Also, Dusk Taker comes to town.
>bad author writes a bad LN
>same author writes another bad LN
>both of them get bad anime adaptations
I don't know, seems quite natural.
>>144257375
Just because people can do it doesn't mean you have to do it.
I never thought "Man I could be Kirito" because it's retarded to think stuff like that
![tumblr_m7vqh63Lav1qgs0qgo1_1280[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/6A3z8Ik.png "tumblr_m7vqh63Lav1qgs0qgo1_1280[1].png")
>>144257401
>Why is Ash Roller so based?
Because he's a motherfucker. Loud, rude, overconfident but when push comes to shove he's there for you.Revealing him to be a girl was shit though. He's too much of a bro to be a girl.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/5OGCOu4.png "latest[1].png")
>>144257434
Are you some kind of giga-faggot, you?
>>144257434
SAO doesn't have the biggest asshole in Kawahara-verse.
>>144257461
>spoiler
>>144256402
Nega Nebula retaking Shibuya region. So is this movie canon instead of some spinoff?
>>144257569
Yes.
>>144257503
This faggot was goofy, not mysterious and edgy.
>s2 never
>>144257451
You don't actually think stuff like that, self insert is more about imagining yourself in the MC's position, not literally imagining you're the MC. Video game designers, at least within the sphere are RPG's actually encourage it, and call it self-authorship, rather than self insert because it sounds better. Basically imagining yourself in the scenario is good fodder for the imagination. Having the main slut like a guy for literally being a loser, kinda kills the ability to self author because then you have to imagine yourself as a loser, which isn't fun.
>>144252747
LOOK AT THAT UGLY FAT FUCK
YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS
WHO THE FUCK CAN RELATE TO A 4 FOOT TALL BALL SHAPED CUNT BESIDES AN AMERICAN
>>144252747
>The biggest complaint with SAO is that Kirito is a Mary Sue and Klein wasn't developed enough
Not even close.
Biggest problem was it did a bait-and-switch with its premise and became a generic tasteless battle-harem.
What are the odds that someone who dress like that never had VR sex?
>>144258057
She's hot, but she needs a better body. The dress is sexy, but she's really too flat to pull it off.
Fuuko is fucking perfect, though.
>>144258057
She's definitely had it countless times. Can Haru's tiny dick really compete?
>>144252956
/thread
People with taste won't like it just because you removed one shit factor of that crap, while shiteaters can't self-insert into a fat fag so they also don't like it.
![accel-1_2-12[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/BcPbxjd.png "accel-1_2-12[1].png")
>>144258148
>Can Haru's tiny dick really compete?
Kuroyuki takes "more cushion for the pushin'" very seriously.
>>144258148
It's VR. He could have a horse cock if he wants.
>>144258148
Only his speed can satisfy her.
>>144258148
>fat midget with a tiny dick
>20 girls still want to fuck
>>144252747
Your retarded points aside.
I dropped AW because they made Haru look retarded. If you are going to have a fat character to tell a story dont make him in a different style than the rest of the cast to hide it.
>>144256166
This. He has a cunty personality on top of being a fat coward but he still has a harem. Show sucks.
How many routes does the VN have?
>>144252747
>a male best friend that's actually important to the plot
All Taku does is fail and make Haru seem better.
I thought SAO was absolute garbage on the level of a shitty battle harem, but I liked the premise. Would it be worth watching this show?
>>144259621
In my opinion the first arc is actually decent. As usual it's best to watch it yourself and make your own judgement rather than going by what /a/ tells you you're allowed to like. /a/'s taste is notoriously shitty.
>>144252909
>You mean fat and ugly?
Isn't that just how the protagonist sees himself and not how he actually looks?
>>144259791
>Isn't that just how the protagonist sees himself and not how he actually looks?
I was thinking the same thing, it's an exaggerated self-image that we're seeing.
Of course, for all we know that could also be true for Kuroyukihime, and that we're seeing her through his impression of her, much the way Don Quixote visualized his beloved Dulcinea.Born on a dungheap to die on a dungheap
Wasn't Haru incredibly self-hating?
>>144259791
>>144259920
Haru sees himself as short but he is still fat.
Kuroyukihime and everyone else are normal.
>>144253107
>Who gives a shit about the opinion of literally no one who matters.
>Decide for yourself if accel shit is better than SAO, popularity is irrelevant.
Popularity determines more stuff of certain titles, fool
>>144256373
>insecure
>lazy
>socially awkward
These all apply to Volume 1 Kirito too, so by your definition he isn't a Gary Stu either
Also
>Haruyuki
>Not a Gary Stu
>Hime needs to fucking Accelerate to match his natural reflexes in that VR squash game
>Somehow manages to separate the component parts of Chrome Disaster and master it when alot more experienced and powerful linkers were just driven mad and destroyed by it
>Learns to Incarnate stupidly quick (Even Kirito took close to a full year in Alicization to do that)
>not Gary Stu
>>144262172
>insecure
>lazy
>socially awkward
>These all apply to Volume 1 Kirito too, so by your definition he isn't a Gary Stu either
Yeah, he was none of those things.
He was however, confident, making friends and motivated.
>>144262236
He flat out monologues about being those things in both the WN and the LN
>>144262415
And he never acts lazy, insecure, or socially awkward in the actual story. A classic example of the author telling rather than showing.
>>144262415
>He flat out monologues about being those things in both the WN and the LN
But never acts that way once the story starts. No matter what he says that not who he was/is. At most he liked to take it easy and have a day off now and then.
People hate SAO because it's popular.
That's all it's been about. Yeah, it's a weak show, but if it was some literally who anime that aired one season that everyone forgot soon after, a lot less people would bag on it. Simple as that
>>144262172
>He's good at one thing therefore he's a Gary Stu
>>144252747
Not enough sexy loli action.
>>144256807
>movie
What? When did this happen?
>>144252747
Silly OP, of course I won't like this shit because I can't self insert into that fugly MC.
>>144256807
They're doing volumes 6+7 as a movie when they rely on the events of volume 5 to even get started?
Didn't accel world come out first?
>>144265137
It came out as a LN before SAO did. It also had an anime airing before SAO did. However SAO WN was created years before AW did.
>>144264178
See >>144256402
From the footage, retaking Shibuya from Great Wall, Scarlet Rain and Blood Leopard is fighting for Nega Nebula so it has to be post-merge. Safe to say it takes place past Vol 19. It'd be great to see Metatron and Graphite Edge animated.
>>144265334
>years before AW did.
I thought the dude was like 16 years old when he barfed out SAO to a LN. Does that mean he started the WN when he was 12? I would believe it since it is just about as bad as some Sonic fanfic.
>biggest complaint was that
Hahahahahah
>>144262718
Subjectivity differs for all people. When any show comes out, not everyone is going to like it.
But when a show appeals to the majority, the few who don't like it start to wonder "why is it so popular?" They might even start to think "it doesn't deserve to be".
You can have your own tastes, but don't be a special snowflake autist about it.
>>144252747
>MC is a beta self-insert who has a harem
>MC is a snarky dickhead asshole who has a harem
>MC is a straight up gary stu who has a harem
ENOUGH ALREADY.
>>144252747
People hate SAO for the wasted potential, it could dive into the psychological and social issues of being trapped in another world and also show what would happen by clearing most (if not each) of the levels.
>>144265554
That's an /a/ meme
He was in his early twenties when he submitted the first draft of SAO for an LN competition. He didn't manage to get it published but spun it off as a WN.
A few years later he managed to get AW published, used clout from that and his established WN fanbase to release SAO as an LN too
>>144252747
>You can't explain that!
Blast from the past, haven't heard that one in years.vintage memes
>>144257461
He's the brother of the girl though
>>144252747
But I hated them both OP.
>>144252747
because accel world is complete shit aside from the main cast
>tfw I don't think Accel World protag is ugly
He's definitely fat but he isn't ugly imo, he's like a cute potbellied pig
Its different from your standard nip bishounen
>not ugly
Had the creator of kaiji done the face accel world would be a little more memorable
Dusk Taker was a mistake.
I can't watch accel world because the protagonist is such a blatant self-insert for the most pathetic of nerds. A fat nerd who likes video games who suddenly has all the hottest girls lusting after him for his video game skills? I couldn't handle the cringe.
SAO game is fun at least
>>144262718
Or its because the show itself is fucking retarded.
>"Good thing no one else but me leveled up their hearing skill"
>Potions work differently every time they are brought up
>Kirito not dying because he really didnt want to
>I hacked my data into this game
>The villain forgot why he did it lol, so deep
>>144252747
I hated both. The author apparently read some criticism of his work of SAO and went the complete opposite spectrum for AW. Instead of a pretty boy Mary Sue, he went with a short, fat loser, but both characters still have loyal friends and harems, despite the differences. Apparently, he can't write realistic characters, with equal strengths and weaknesses.
>>144265920
>>MC is a snarky dickhead asshole who has a harem
Which one's that again?
>>144252747
I realize this is bait, but it's pretty easy to explain. The show was designed to maximize appeal to the lowest common denominator, in this case the male preteen demographic. And it accomplished this goal very effectively. It's basically just blatant wish fulfillment pandering aimed at edgy tweens.
Actually the main thing that sets SAO apart is all the ways in which it's BETTER than all the other shows pandering to that particular demo. Most of the shows targeting dumb preteens are zero effort, zero budget. SAO was well designed, very satisfactorily animated, had a world which felt fleshed out and had some real heft to it, and the dialog, direction, and performances were all very serviceable. Even most of the individual stories of most of the episodes weren't terrible. It's just when you look at the MC and the actual plot of the show that it becomes completely retarded.
But then of course you have that absolutely heinous fairy / incest arc which had zero redeeming qualities.
>>144269411
>hearing skill
Fucking hell, that exchange in episode 5 or something was cringeworthy
>I thought you couldn't hear a conversation in an inn room unless you knocked
>But if your listen skill is high enough, you can
It uses vidya babble to explain what's COMMON FUCKING SENSE. Unless you actively spend your attention eavesdropping, you generally don't hear conversations going on behind closed doors.
Why does a supposedly immersive VR RPG even need a listen skill? Is there a spotting skill too? Do you go blind if you invest zero points in that?
>>144270457
I cant get over that somehow he grinding the ability to listen unlike other people.
Like how the fuck is he listening more than other people?
>>144256807
>premiering along with one piece then godzilla and tarzan the next week
That doesn't bode well.
>>144270573
>godzilla
>tarzan
What?
>>144256807
Movie BD in September.
>>144256093
>girls don't like him because he's ugly.
This is the truth. I can't self-insert to love someone so visually unappealing.
>self inserting
I hope you don't do this
I actually kind of like Accel World. I never thought it'd be possible for me to hate an arc villain as much as it succeeded to do. Really satisfied whenhe didn't spare him.
>>144252747
They're both brainless wish-fulfillment harems, and SAO was a more attractive fantasy for the losers to self-insert into
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ9NlThB3SY
This is actually correct.
>>144256582
>its someone outside of family(usually) that you can be around like they were
That was possible in the past. Nowadays I can't stand to be around my best friend for more than six hours in a row because he recently drank too much of the /pol/-koolaid and listening to his rambles about jews and corrupt governments drives me nuts after a while.
>>144267874
When I hug a man, I don't want to sink into a mass of fat and lard. If I wanted to touch something soft, I'd hug a girl.
![jxz2vpb4rbjyjsbq5ougfsv5vdvivozp_hq[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FHxa06R.jpg "jxz2vpb4rbjyjsbq5ougfsv5vdvivozp_hq[1].jpg")
>>144271145
>This is the truth.
Proving once again that 2D will always trump 3D
>>144271414
Yeaah, Accel World isn't bad in my opinion. In fact, I'd go as far as to call it kind of good. Nowhere near a masterpiece, but closer to the "good" end of the spectrum than the "bad" end.
>>144252747
I think the setting and premise of AW is a lot better overall, but Piggy there isn't just flawed, but outright unlikable. It's one thing to write someone who is flawed and yet relatable, and another that is either painfully relatable to a small minority and horribly unrelatable to the vast majority. He went too far in the opposite direction and ended up creating an entirely different kind of pandering bullshit, One that breaks suspension of disbelief for most everyone.
Really, Magisa Garden and that GGO spin-off by the author of Kino handled the balance of competency and likability a lot better than Reki ever did.
>>144270800
They premiere in japan in 2 weeks.
If you could sit down this man and explain to him why Accel World is grossly flawed and how he can improve it, what would you tell him?
![Accel.World.full.1104014[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yWbbLCw.jpg "Accel.World.full.1104014[1].jpg")
>>144272277
You started out by establishing two couples very early in the series. That's good. Don't fucking ruin this by trying to turn Accel World into a harem. We all know that Kuroyuki wins the Harubowl, and if she doesn't then it's because Haru suddenly becomes an OOC two-timing scumbag.
Both SAO and Accel world's MC flaws are that they are ultimately just self-insert faggots.
SAO's MC is designed to appeal to people that have an inflated opinion of themselves, and want to pretend that they're capable of the same things that Kirito is capable of.
Accel World's MC is designed to appeal to people that have an accurate opinion of themselves, but want to see unnaturally good things happen to them to give them hope.
For as much shit as people give Re:Zero, it's pretty good at shitting on both these tropes by having a character that is pretty relatable, and then subjecting them to the most difficult shit imaginable, and then instating the fact that these obstycles cannot be overcome by inherent talent and you actually have to work hard to get shit done. And even when you try you're hardest, it still doesn't guarantee success.
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To be fair Suzuki is kind of a dumbass
