Oreimo
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.
You are currently reading a thread in /a/ - Anime & Manga
You are currently reading a thread in /a/ - Anime & Manga
Sup /a/,
Just finished this and what the fuck was with the ending? Seriously, any other ending would have been better.
>>144251962
Welcome to the club. Everyone hated the ending.
The ending itself is decent. Read the LNs/After Story/pastebin etc..
>>144251991
Was this backlash appeasement?
>>144251962
I didn't like the ending either, they should have just stayed a couple and kissed more
>>144252548
That's exactly what happened though.
>>144252007
>>144252568
I watched the anime, I don't want to read shit nerds
>>144252603
Then you don't get to complain, idiot.
>>144252007
Just read the pastebin, the ending seems a bit better now. However, I still would have preferred anything else.
>>144252723
Any other ending would have made no sense. Yes it sucks it got censored but the core message is still there.
>>144251962
>>144251991
Kill yourself.
>>144252771
I don't know if it would have made no sense. Sure, Kirino would be hurt in almost all other choices. In the current ending though, everyone else is hurt and Kirino still has issues.
>>144252776
Hmm, could work.
>>144252848
That doesn't mean it should have ended differently. Are you suggestting he should have dated someone else or nobody at all? Then it would be the same, only that it would be retarded story and character wise.
>>144252955
Well he ends up not going all out with Kirino. That is an option. Or any of the other girls and Kirino working out her issues with them. I think these choices would have more of a cadence to it, and thus would serve as a better ending.
No one at all is essentially what happened. Kyou seems to have acquired some friendship along the way, however he's alienated all romantic interests he's had. His relationship with Kirino seems to be on a cycle now which is terrible for both of them in my opinion.
>>144252771
Any other ending would have made more sense. He goes full retard and turns down 4 healthy sustainable relationships so that he can fuck his sister in secret. Incest is hot doujin bait but it's not a viable life choice in the long term
I would have liked to see an ayase end, or him plowing kirino's tan american friend.
>>144253057
>Well he ends up not going all out with Kirino
Yes he does, they date for 3 months´, "break up" and get together again at the very end. We know they are still together half a year later.
How can you actually say any other pairing would have more cadence? He loves Kirino and she loves him, anything else would be plain stupid. You don't try to have as many options open as possible, that's not how love works. Not to mention it would have gone against the entire story and buildup. They both need and love each other, it's perfect that they ended up together, despite Kirino trying her best to abandon that path.
>>144253292
I'm not saying they don't love each other. I only saw Kirino upset about a kiss at the end. If they got back together, that'd be better than what I saw. There is speculation that they are still seeing each other but outwardly acting siblings, however I don't get that from the ending that I watched. The ending I saw was that they essentially have both of their love lives on indefinite hold, as if almost waiting for the brother/sister problem to resolve (something that never will).
>>144253260
That's such a warped point of view, you don't pursue the girl that makes for the easiest relationship. Yes the incest route is hard and at one point they will likely get in trouble because of it but it's not like it's impossible. One theory is that Kirino goes to Europe for modelling and Kyousuke acts as her manager, we know he can do that.
>>144251962
This is what getting popular does to authors. The author never planned for imouto end, but the fans sperged enough that he was forced to retroactively fuck everything and everyone else over to make room for the abomination we got.
>>144253538
I'm sorry but you need to have read the novels to have a say in this, the anime is a shit adaption that butchered the story and characters. At least read the other pastebin linked in the guide. At the end Kirino finally accepts her love for Kyousuke and stops trying to abandon their relationship.
>>144253594
>- The ending had been planned for a long time, and become more concrete around the time that the author was working on the bonus features (the animated commentaries) for the first season of the anime.
Shitpost elsewhere.
>>144253722
Alright, if you say that they get back together indefinitely in the LNs, I'll accept the ending as a mediocre (censored version) of an alright ending in my book.
Are they still friends with everyone? I imagine Manami and Ayase are definite no gos, and I'm surprised Kuroneko came back around as she did.
>>144251991
>Hated the ending
Nah, I see it for what it is.
True love
>>144254054
I doubt Manami would stay friends with Kyou after that, but I don't think Ayase really ever knew about the relationship, which is probably for the best.
Neko seems ok with it, as long as Kirino doesn't talk about their sex life
>>144254054
I thought you were aware of that, assuming you were >>144252723.
That's another thing that sucks a bit, Fushimi had to resolve so many things in the last 2 volumes there wasn't enough space for side characters. It was pretty obvious that Kuroneko would come to terms with the siblings dating,
they are a central part in her life and pretty much her only good friends besides Saori. Kanako had no problems with her rejection, though her romance was stupid to begin with. Manami is definitely gone,
her main goal was to prevent Kirino and Kyousuke from dating and she failed miserably. We can't be sure about Ayase but I would assume she's more or less fine with it too, she became a lot more accepting over the course of the series and she likes Kyousuke and still adores Kirino.
Also she and Kuroneko are friends with benefits so her social life also revolves around the siblings so it would be stupid of her to hate them. In the After Story it's said that a new girl joined the otaku group, that could mean Ayase.
>>144253594
>kuronekofags falseflagging
She was the one who got a forced relation with senpai because of the fans, Kirino end was set in stone from the very beginning.
>>144254384
Ayase definitely knew that Kirino and Kyousuke love each other and she isn't stupid, she definitely knew who Kyousuke meant when he said he already loved someone else during her rejection scene.
>>144254573
Knowing Ayase, she might be ignoring it on purpose to make it an easier pill to swallow.
>>144254391
I didn't see anything related to afterwards aside from a short story that told nothing of the sort. I read the pastebin specifically related to the ending which just hypothesized that their relationship was in a sort of cyclical stalemate as I said earlier.
So yea, that'd be great seeing Ayase in the group. Though I doubt she would join for its' name, rather the people.
>>144254605
Maybe but I don't really think so, she stopped lying to herself about Kyousuke and accepted Kirino being an otaku. That 2 of her best friends are in an incestuous relationship might be a bit much but I guess she'll tolerate it, just like Saori.
>>144254614
Ayase actually started collecting figures herself, it wouldn't be far-fetched if she also started watching anime.
>>144254791
I get that feeling that Saori TOLERATES it, but isn't exactly accepting of it
>>144254964
Yeah, Saori doesn't accept it but her friends are far more important to her so she tolerates their relationship. That would make sense for Ayase too. Sucks she didn't get a scene after her rejection.
Did Saori have romantic feeling for him?
>>144255152
No.
3 years after the fact and people are still mad about Kirino winning the Oreo. Unbelievable.
>>144255751
It's mostly triggered purists who support Manami, or Nekofriends who just can't get over the fact that she got shot the fuck down
>>144255972
I'm happy with Kirino, but you can't say you don't feel bad for her. (Or maybe you can in some fucked up way).
>>144256048
Well, she only has herself to blame for postponing her rejection and making it harder for herself.
>>144256048
I never said I didn't feel bad. Especially when Kana starts her trademark screaming sobs.
>>144256139
Didn't Kyou say he was going to work on Kirino and save himself for her?
>>144256139
Wasn't her main goal for the 3 of them to be happy together, and it got waylaid because she fell in love with Kyou, which made it harder for her to Break Up With Senpai?
>>144256193
He was about to reject her in volume 8 but she stopped him, fainted and then continued to pursue him for 3 more volumes, interrupting him several times when he tried to tell her off.
>>144256210
Not that theory again, go away.
Could Kirino have ever really accepted Kyou going out with someone that wasn't her?
>>144256448
Sure, people change. Kyou did.
>>144256448
Not in the short term. She was going to leave for Europe for sure. Long term? Who knows.
>>144256448
I doubt it, she did encourage Kyousuke to take Kuroneko serious but she never actually accepted them going out. Maybe if he didn't stop her from going to Europe but that's so theoretical.
>>144256048
I don't feel bad for her.
I think that what she did to the siblings was horrible and was glad to see her get wrecked.
>>144256848
>>144256848
>>144256864
Who is the best girl and why is it Sakurai?
>>144256917
It's a shame normies will never appreciate her, because she got adapted out of the fucking anime
>>144257011
>normies
Go away.
This anime has made me think of picking up some those VN's on steam. Guess I'll need to get back to working on my Japanese.
>>144257047
>People who didn't read the LN, and thought the anime was the definitive version
What would you call them, then?
>>144257068
Call them secondaries or so but fuck off to /r9k/ with your normie shit.
>>144257013
I want a picture of them both, wearing each other's clothes
Think Manami ever told anyone about them? She threatened to, and after the massive wrecking she got, I wonder if she would actually do it
>>144257306
She actually might. She said she wouldn't after Kyousuke made it clear it wouldn't stop him but she is a piece of shit.
>>144257361
The bigger question is, what would happen? Depending on who she told, the outcome would be radically different.
If we base his reaction off the theory that he knows about the siblings, then not much would change if she told Daisuke, he would probably just tell them (in some way) to be more careful
>>144257306
I think Manami still cares for Kyousuke. The last thing she wants is to hurt him and get him to go all out for his sister. So she won't tell anyone. The best she can hope for is for them to get over it.
>>144257413
I don't believe in the "Daisuke knows and approves" theory, I think at first he would be absolutely against it and probably even kick them out but after realising he can't do anything he'd come to terms with it, after all he really loves his kids. Manami could potentially fuck their lives though, if she manages to make a big deal out of it Kirino might not find a good modelling job anymore and overall they could get in trouble with most employers. However it seemed like Manami just wanted to walk away from all of it, I don't think she wants to play any role in the siblings' lives.
>>144257771
If Manami managed to ruin their lives like that, would they stay together? Or would pragmatism win over
>>144257868
They would stay together, maybe move to another country and try to start over.
>>144257949
Would they keep in touch with their parents and friends?
Friends, probably, i'm on the fence about their parents though
>>144258052
Probably just over the internet. This is getting a bit too abstract.
>>144257949
>They move to Scandanavia, where they meet their distant cousins, the Kasuganos
>>144258198
This is why we need a sequel.
If you want a Kirino thread just ask OP. You don't need to shit post.
>>144258336
Stupid Manami edit.
>>144258412
God damn, I can't find the Hail Cthulu edit of that gif.
>People are still mad over best girl winning
So did they fug?
Is it canon?
>>144260058
Maybe
Yes
>>144260058
At the hotel, on christmas? Probably not.
Afterwards? At least once, probably a fuck ton of times
>>144260199
>That first night was probably nothing but loving cuddles
>Every night afterwards was loving cuddles, mixed in with rabid, loving sex
>>144258867
Brown hair Kirino a best
If she stopped dying it it would also probably trigger some suppressed instincts in Kyousuke and the sex would be incredible for awhile
>>144261334
>Implying they didn't try this
I have no doubt
I want to fuck Kirino.
>tfw the only thing left to discuss about Oreimo is their sex life
>>144262433
>You will never be as sexually active as these two siblings are
>>144256139
>>144256310
>>144256193
From vol 10:
>"Before I properly resolve things up with Kirino, I won't go out with anyone."
>"…Um."
>Kuroneko looked down before turning her head to me.
>"Good… it's the same as my plan…"
>A gentle smile.
>"Then let's do our best to resolve things as well as we can."
>>144256210
Since apparently nobody bothered to actually read Ruri's story, I'll lay it all down for you:
It was the other way around, she fell in love with Kyou, and was about to confess to him in vol 5 since Kirino was gone for the foreseeable future, but then when Kyou received a text from Kirino, she stowed her feelings and persuaded him to go to her and bring her back. After that she felt conflicted since she loved him but didn't want to hurt Kirino. Seeing that the sibling's relationship wasn't progressing and Kirino was becoming increasingly jealous, she eventually wrote her destiny record, which would allow her to get closer to Kyou, bring Kirino's jealousy to a peak, eventually forcing her confession and ultimately backing down to push the siblings together. Upon executing the final step of this plan she had a panic attack and fainted. After coming to, she rewrote her destiny record to include the three of them living happily together.
>>144262722
>and ultimately backing down to push the siblings together
But this never happened.
>>144262861
She broke up with him and forced Kirino to confess her feelings knowing full well that he wouldn't take her back. Her original destiny record depicted only Kyousuke and Kirino sitting together in the final illustration.
>On the top, it said the illustration was named 'The ideal world'.
>It was drawn in manga style – Kuroneko's normal style. Unlike her normal
>illustration, this one didn't use purple and black, and had a warm and gentle feeling.
>Compared to the 'The scream' just now, it was completely different.
>Surrounding the dining table was me and ---
>"Kirino…?"
Oreimo: Brotherhood when?
>>144263059
You seem to be pretending that everything involving Ruri after volume 8 didn't happen. She was grinding for that dick in volume 10 harder than anyone.
>>144263118
I referenced vol 10 in my first post >>144262722
>After coming to, she rewrote her destiny record to include the three of them living happily together
So she decided to try for a harem ending, although she didn't really expect it to work. From vol 11:
>Kirino grit her teeth.
>"— Why do you say that!? You, Ayase too…! Even if you confess, it is useless! Because he is a hopeless siscon!"
>"I know that much. Both of us will confess exactly because of that —!"
>Kuroneko said and nodded.
>>144263118
That guy thinks Kuroneko planned everything but couldn't stick to that plan and suddenly decided to actually pursue Kyousuke after forcing him to choose between her and Kirino.
>>144263505
>she decided to try for a harem ending
Your quote actually proves that statement wrong.
Stealing or attempting to steal an onii-chan from his imouto is wrong.
>>144264139
She learned her lesson
>>144264320
Kuroneko needed to be punched as well.
I surprisingly see nothing wrong with Sakurai's attempts, though. I guess it's because she's upfront about itand fails spectacularly.
>>144264419
She got wrecked when Kyou told her he loves Kirino more. No need for violence.
Manami, on the other hand, struck first, and so deserved the assbeating she should have gotten for picking a fight with an athlete
>>144264419
The siblings are literally together because of Kuroneko's efforts
>>144264703
That's literally bullshit. Kuroneko was the main reason they didn't get together earlier, because she stood between them after volume 5.
>>144264703
They would have been fine without her. She honestly just got in the way.
>>144264703
The average f/a/ggot can't read into characters actions unless they're spelled out in a single scene with as little and clear sentences as possible
I will never not feel bad for ruri, she had the best intentions and paid the price for it
Does Kirino get cranky if she goes without onii-d for too long?
>>144264814
>>144264830
Kirino would still be in america if Kuroneko hadn't persuaded Kyou to bring her back, and Kuroneko was the one that got Kirino to confess her feelings. You can write as much headcanon fanfic as you want but in the story it was Kuroneko who brought them together.
>>144264957
Of course. She's so addicted to it that she's grown dependent on it
>>144264904
Yeah, you're the only one who understands everything. Everyone else is stupid and retarded.
>>144264991
Not really, first of all it's not like Kyousuke wouldn't have done something without Kuroneko, he was sad and frustrated, eventually he would have thought about the same, or maybe Daisuke would have said something to him. Second, Kirino was failing hard at that training camp, she would have been sent home at some point.
>>144264991
Kuroneko's romantic involvement and meddling was unnecessary. The siblings would have been fine without her bullshit and selfish plans.
I'm not talking about removing the whole character since that's retarded and will obviously lead to all sorts of different outcomes. It's similar to removing Manami outright from the equation.
>>144265489
If manami had been completely removed, we would never have gotten an incest ending
>>144265178
Adding to that, why couldn't Kyousuke start thinking of Kirino as a love interest after volume 5? Because there suddenly was something between him and Kuroneko that had to get "resolved" first. Why couldn't Kirino admit she loved him? Same reason, Kuroneko was awkwardly in between and as a friend she felt compelled to stay out of the way. She bottled up and endured basically getting NTR'd by her best friend, who even shit on her during that time. You call that invoking jealousy? That's being a piece of shit towards your friend. What Kuroneko did was pretty much the worst possible thing if her goal was to actually get them together.
>>144265600
Exactly. Had Manami not been involved this all wouldn't have happened. Kuroneko/Saori and possibly Ayase would have never met Kirino/Kyousuke. Sakurai may have had an actual chance at winning etc
>>144251991
lolno. Incest is gross, dude. The ending was a logical, albeit sorta of over dramatic, way to put their feelings to rest.
>>144266188
>lolno
>incest is gross
Fuck off.
>>144266186
Manami would have won, he once was in love with her.
>>144266239
It is. Why do people on /a/ like incest so much?
>M-muh purest love!!!
>>144265178
>>144265489
Yeah that's great fanfic nice work. I wrote one too:
Kyou throws out Kirino's collection, this works as closure for him, Ruri confesses, he forgets about his estranged sister just like he did years previously. Whatever happens to Kirino after that is irrelevant because Kyou has moved on emotionally
It's fun to speculate huh
>>144266028
Ruri also loved him at that time, she and Kirino were going through the exact same thing. Ruri was going to confess to him but she didn't, she tried to stay out of their way.
Also it's ridiculous to say that all of that is Ruri's fault. Kirino was always in denial of her feelings because of what Manami told her, and Kyousuke didn't see either of them as a romantic interest until after Ruri confessed.
>>144266297
That's debatable. Sakurai could have won as well, and Manami would have family-zoned herself before long
>>144266528
>headcanon fanfic
>fanfic
Yeah, just fuck off. What you wrote is just plain retarded by the way. You are not even arguing anymore, you are just bullshitting.
>she and Kirino were going through the exact same thing.
What? Being in denial about your love for your brother for half a decade? Hating yourself because of said feelings?
>Ruri was going to confess to him but she didn't, she tried to stay out of their way.
Yeah, no, she was so in the way. Denying that is just stupid and proves that you are the one who has no idea.
>Kyousuke didn't see either of them as a romantic interest until after Ruri confessed.
That's why he has been lusting over Kirino since volume 1 chapter 1 and often thought of what if scenarios with him as Kirino's boyfriend.
>>144266978
True, it's kinda useless to talk about these what-if scenarios anyway.
>>144267373
Yeah, you're the only one who understands everything. Everyone else is stupid and retarded.
>>144268336
Funny when you were the one who literally said that earlier >>144264904 >>144264991, whatever is yours. Now you ultimately resorted to name calling, thanks.
>>144266528
>Yeah that's great fanfic nice work. I wrote one too:
Except we pretty much saw it in progress before the cat got in the way.
>>144266028
>>144266028
>Adding to that, why couldn't Kyousuke start thinking of Kirino as a love interest after volume 5?
There's a big difference between other girls and Kirino in that aspect. Nothing stops him from considering other girls as love interests. Incest stops him from considering Kirino a love interest. Not to mention that he may actually consider a love interest but didn't tell the audience. Wouldn't be the first time he wasn't honest with himself or the audience.
>>144268487
That was my point, it would have made a lot of sense for him to consciously start thinking about Kirino romantically, after all he went to America and told her he can't live without her. However with Kuroneko in the mix he had another excuse to shove his incest thoughts away.
>>144267373
You're claiming that Ruri's actions weren't needed by appealing to pure speculation. That's headcanon and it's pointless to even consider. The fact is that Ruri pushed them together.
>>144267521
This
After vol 5 both Kirino and Ruri were in love with Kyousuke. Ruri was going to confess to Kyousuke in vol 5 but instead she yielded to Kirino. You're acting like Ruri and Kyou were dating the whole time or something. If Ruri was "in the way" it certainly wasn't by her own design. It was never even stated that Kirino was holding off because or Ruri until they started dating
>>144268467
That's not me
>>144268467
Not even the same anon but have fun denying common sense
Maybe you'll realize what she was thinking once you watch it again because even the anime made that clear
>>144264320
Here's a better version
>>144268617
If you call that headcanon then it's basically impossible to discuss anything. Yes Kuroneko didn't confess because of Kirino but the very fact that she fell for him and that he obviously noticed something keeps him away from Kirino. Just like Kirino noticed it, freaked out and acted a lot more reserved around him then she might have otherwise. Do we know what exactly would have happened? No, but you think about how the character feel and act and think about how they would react if something changed and that's perfectly reasonable.
>>144268743
Once again a post without any content. Fuck off if you have nothing to say.
Sakurai doesn't get in the way like the filthy cat.
>>144269123
More like the opposite, she either gives them dating ideas or makes them think about each other in a romantic/sexual way.
>>144269011
The other anon chewed all there was to say for you before I could
Ruri did hold back for kirino, but she still didn't give up on him. She wanted to give her a fair chance of either getting together with him because she knew she was suffering. Idealy she wanted them to resolve their complicated relationship into becoming normal siblings and he would date ruri. That's what her notebook was about
>>144268976
Here's the truly superior version
Gotta read the 200 day war by takotsuboya to truly appreciate the series.
>>144269011
It's possible to discuss the story instead of your biased speculation. Kirino might have noticed it considering how jealous she was acting, but I've see no evidence that Kyousuke did. And either way you're blaming Ruri for other people's actions and things that aren't her fault. You're faulting her for simply existing and being their friend.
>>144269342
Thanks, that's exactly what I think too.
What this whole mess has been about is that that anon claimed that Ruri is the main reason Kirino and Kyousuke got together, which is just wrong. Everything considered she did both, keep them from thinking about each other romantically and helping them get together, in that order.
>>144269554
If we're going to pin down a singular person responsible for their relationship, then we only have to look at Manami
>>144269342
>Ruri did hold back for kirino
Not him but the possible confession in volume 5? I don't think it was Ruri holding back there it's just common sense to not say anything.
It's like you finding a $50 bill on the ground and as you're about to meet your friend and tell him about your luck he tells you that one of his close family members just died. The moment isn't about you, it's about your friend and being there and being supportive. That action itself wasn't anything special. It's just fucking human.
>>144269553
>but I've see no evidence that Kyousuke did
Ruri kissed them, anon. He fucking noticed something was up and spends a few chapters thinking about it.
>>144269527
>takotsuboya
Wait, that guy made an Oreimo Doujin?
>>144269801
Don't. It's a hellish ride of depression and suffering. And not the fun kind.
>>144269801
A hate doujin, yeah. It's one thing shitposter sometimes like to post about in Oreimo threads. Usually together with a crop but that one was probably too lazy.
>>144269801
It's about as good as those doujins about Daisuke raping and NTRing everyone
In other words, it's utter shit
>>144266314
You could weight in a lot of different reason. Most is because normalfags like you don't like it for some reason.
>>144269864
I don't plan to, I've seen that guy's GuP Doujin series.
>>144269873
Would you mind giving me a summary of it's plot please?
>>144269644
She dumped him and vanished so that tue siblings would resolve their situation
she didn't want kirino to hurt but she didn't want to lose either
She gave her a damb good fighting chance. This is holding back
>>144270103
It's a shitty doujin, either read it or don't, nobody really cares about it.
>>144270107
You are talking about volume 8, this discussion is about the time before she and Kyousuke even started dating. Oh and she hurt Kirino a lot.
>>144270107
What bothers me about that example of "holding back" is that it also possibly benefits her tremendously. That's Manami level of manipulation. And hey, at least Manami didn't plan to hurt the siblings with her schemes.
That's pretty much why I consider Kuroneko to be worse than Manami.
>>144270455
There's no way of both not hurting and not getting hurt in that kind of situation
>>144270666
True but like your posts is suggesting she's basically the devil.
>>144270566
Of course, she didn't want to lose.
But do you know what would benefit her 10 times more?
Denying any chance for kirino by not dumping him
>>144270740
I don't see how
She tried her best to cause as little damage as she could
Whether it was stupid or not, she had the best intentions all along
>>144270939
>>144271041
First of all, please stop typing like that, it looks stupid. I was obviously talking about your satanic trips here, duh. There was no way of not hurting anybody but her decision was pretty shitty, breaking up without any explanation and leaving the town for Kyousuke to be depressed and helpless.
>>144269644
>>144270455
>>144270566
She held back confessing to him until vol 8. She could have just told him to get over Kirino instead of telling him to go to her. She could have gone through with the confession as soon as they came back instead of yielding to Kirino. She could have just kept him to herself after she did eventually confess. She would have been completely justified doing any of those things, but she cared about both of them and didn't want to win at the expense of Kirino's feelings.
>>144271154
She's far from the only one who was inconsiderate to Kyousuke. Even forgetting Kirino's general mistreatment of Kyousuke for most of the story, she also left for america without telling him
>>144271154
Yes it was stipid but the point stands, it was the best she could do. Maybe just talking it through would be much better but she's bad enough with human interaction that she couldn't think of any better way
>>144271325
Yeah but they were incredibly far away from dating at that time. Also Kirino left to get over her feelings for Kyousuke, not Like Kuroneko who left him to get picked again later. Kyousuke was basically told to go fuck himself right after a really romantic date without any reasoning. Overall you are right though, Kuroneko was considerate of Kirino. Though I will never not be mad she asked for dating advice and when it would be ok for her to have sex with Kyousuke.
>>144271418
Well, she's a chuuni, you can't really expect her to think of an actually reasonable plan.
>>144271325
You're handling way too many what if scenarios without even discussing the consequences of each. Not that it matters since they're just what ifs.
The fact of the matter is that what she did was a move reserved only for the biggest cunts out there. She hurt everyone involved to gamble on a victory she knew she wasn't going to get. She kept hurting others even when she had plainly lost and made things worse for everyone involved with her denial right up until the end.
Did it help the siblings? I guess it may have in the same way that Manami helped them. The credit for that, however, goes overwhelmingly to the siblings themselves. They were the ones that decided the outcome.
Manami a shit.
But Kuroneko is worse. I honestly see very little value in her and mostly see a talentless, delusional, somewhat retarded and selfish cunt.
>>144271647
The thing is she did it out of stupidity, not evil, and that's a major factor
>>144272037
No, I don't think so. First of all, I wouldn't call her evil. And she did know what she was doing.
You can excuse her for fucking up and hurting people once but to do it multiple times and continuously for months? Nah, she can fuck off.
>>144271647
I'm not making any speculations here, I'm simply demonstrating her motives. Both Ruri and Kirino were hurting because they both loved Kyousuke, Kyousuke was constantly being mistreated by Kirino. Ruri took drastic measures to resolve a hopeless situation at the expense of her own feelings, feelings which you refuse to even acknowledge. She didn't hurt them nearly as much as you're claiming. It seems like you would have preferred if the whole story was just the siblings fucking for 12 volumes
>>144272037
Manami isn't evil either.
>>144272271
>Kyousuke was constantly being mistreated by Kirino.
Not at the point we are discusssing. After volume 8 there is basically nothing that warrants the word mistreatment/abuse. And you completely ignored his earlier post >>144270566. She didn't sacrifice herself, she took a gamble hoping to win, or rather she had a retarded plan she thought would work out.
>>144272339
Ruri wanted kirino to come to terms with her feelings while Manami shamed her for them. I won't call that evil but I don't see any good there
You know what is fun, that you people think I'm going to read all this, post more Kirino!
>>144273214
Why is she so perfect, /a/?
>>144273214
You don't? I've read pretty much every single post in every single Oreimo thread the last 3 years.
>>144273936
The content is really poor yet there are still many discussions years later, that's quite a feat
>>144274123
>The content is really poor
>>144272421
>After volume 8
We're talking about before vol 8 here
>completely ignored his earlier post
No I replied >>144271325
>She didn't sacrifice herself, she took a gamble hoping to win
No she didn't. Read >>144263059
>>144274166
Yes that's how romcoms and harems usually are. Unless you include kirino's ass in your definition of content in which case I take back my statement
>>144274253
You are stupid.
>We're talking about before vol 8 here
No, read the 2 posts before that, this was about how Kuroneko tried to resolve the situation in volume 8 by breaking up.
>No I replied >>144271325
You didn't even address his point, you only talked about her holding back until volume 8 when >>144270566 specifically talks about Ruri breaking up with Kyousuke for her retarded plan.
>No she didn't. Read >>144263059
Once again unrelated to what I said. Fucking read what >>144271647 said again.
>>144274381
Oreimo isn't a harem, it was always about Kirino and Kyousuke. Yes in the end 4 girls confess but he immediately shoots them down and apart from volume 10 there are almost no harem elements. Why are you even in this thread when you think Oreimo is shit? Fuck off.
>>144274666
Chill down satan I didn't even bash it
>>144274943
Fuck you, I'll condemn whoever I want.
>Hoshikuzu Namida 5 never
>Absolute Kirino Territory 3 never
>Tons of doujins translated never
>Yosuga no Sora doujins translated never
FUCK
>>144275170
Not even mad about the second one, fuck that series. HN5 would be great though, non-H, full colour greatness.
>>144275266
I'm more concerned where the story is going, and Yanderino is a nice touch
>>144275294
It completely shits on her personality, might as well be a NTR doujin at that point. His art is great, I'd definitely like another Oreimo doujin from him, just not in a retarded setting.
>>144275403
It's not her default personality, it's something new. I'm open to this kind of change, and it's not too bad, it shows her with Sora level dependancy on Kyousuke
>>144274519
I was justifying her actions in vol 8 by explaining how the situation beforehand influenced her motives. I did explicitly mention her actions in vol8 in that post. And the post about the destiny record specifically refutes the claim you made. I swear most of you faggots have zero reading comprehension and can't even follow a simple logical argument
It's weird. I have an attraction to Kirino too. But at the same time I feel it's completely idiotic to be attracted to something like that. Why /a/, why? She seems so shit tier.
>>144275553
What are you talking about? Kirino is great, maybe even the greatest.
>>144275602
Probably the masochist in us all.
>>144275668
Not this shit again.
>Kyousuke.. I'm pregnant
>>144276885
>>144276885
>>144277046
2chan artist is a miracle of the universe.
>>144272271
>>144272271
>feelings which you refuse to even acknowledge
I acknowledge them just fine. I'm just not giving her a free pass just because she has feelings for the siblings.
I give Kirino and Kyousuke a lot of shit for what they did in the first few volumes of the series. They probably loved each other back then as well and had a hard time expressing it. They definitely both had decent reasons for being shit to each other. But I'm not giving them a pass on that and Kuroneko sure as hell isn't getting one either.
I actually should be tougher on the cat since at least Kyousuke/Kirino's actions were based on mutual misundestandings/ignorace. Unlike them, the cat knew well what was going on and what she was doing.
>She didn't hurt them nearly as much as you're claiming.
The fuck? We see them both frustrated and sad to the point of crying. Probably one of the very few times we see that shit going on in the series. But whatever. Arguing about the severity of it doesn't matter. At the end of the day she hurt her two most precious human beings.
>>144275403
>>144275294
I have a feeling that it was going to take a turn towards neko and for the worse. I don't like threesome ends much less the actual depiction of someone stealing an onii-chan from his imouto.
There should be a name for that.
>>144278582
It's called heresy
>>144251962
>Hey guys this is my first thread I'm here for the summer!
>>144278739
What do you call an imouto taking back an onii-chan that was stolen from her by some slut?
God, I love that doujin by the way. Part 4 fucking when?
>>144278818
A hero, a winner, the best girl
>>144277618
Then what is your point? Everyone here admits she fucked up. We also know she had good intentions and wished everyone a happy ending. She was willing to hurt and be hurt in order to put that situation to an end. Her mistake was not being selfish enough to just keep him for herself. She tried the best her socially awkward self could think of
>they finally get together, despite knowing how wrong it is
>Kirino goes around telling everybody about it
Don't get me wrong, I love seeing them together and I can understand telling close friends like Kuroneko and Saori, but when Kirino spills the beans to fucking Sakurai of all people, you know she deserves a smack on the back of the head
>>144278797
I haven't watched EVA, cowboy bebop, katanagatari or ghost in shell
Come at me faggot
>>144279153
Why would I? Those are all shit, good on you.
>>144278797
Complains about "shitposting" while shitposting.
>>144279153
Hey, half of those are good. I'll let you figure out which ones.
>>144279289
Really? I only haven't backlogged the first
>>144278993
I don't agree with her actions being labelled as self-less or painted as good for everyone. The idea that she did nothing wrong disgusts me. She took a gamble, the only way she could win, it didn't play out and she lost. She's not a hero or a devil.
And no, she didn't fuck up. You can't fuck up a situation that's already fucked for you.
>>144280836
>>144280836
>>144281842
I feel bad for Fushimi having attended it in person. He probably got boo'd at the end of it
>>144282029
There was booing when Kyousuke rejected the cat but that was mostly it.
>>144282161
Ran-chin is a good girl and deserved more screentime
I honestly don't come to /a/ a lot but this thread is almost always here whenever I do.
>>144282320
Why? She's irrelevant. All I remember her doing is talking shit about Kyousuke. She's not like Sakurai.
>hurr the LNs expand on the ending! It's much better there!
No, fuck this. This is /a/ - Anime and Manga, not Anime and Manga and Light Novels. I don't want to read a poor translation of an already poorly written text belonging to a genre of ""literature"" that is generally mediocre to begin with. The anime may be a bad adaptation but the developments toward the end did nothing to make me read any supplementary material.
>apparently second and third place girls became dykes for each other
Japan needs to fuck off with this meme. It happened in Haganai too.
>>144282620
Are you against Kuroneko and Ayase's love for each other? Against the second purest form of love?
>>144282620
>>apparently second and third place girls became dykes for each other
Well this interests me.
>>144282669
>Against the second purest form of love?
I think you meant forbidden love.
>>144279746
>>144279746
They were by no means selfless, she still did want to win, but she also didn't want kirino to suffer so she took action. It's the way she went about it that was a fuck up.
>>144282727
Let's just say that pic related is canon and leave it at that, anon.
>>144282834
EXPLAIN FURTHER
>>144282759
There needs to be a distinction between the purest form of love between an imouto and her onii-chan and all other forms. Yuri is the second most pure of those forms.
>>144282727
That's bullshit anon, all they do is having a healthy play of steping on each others uncovered stomachs, nothing gay about that
>>144282884
Is not just Kirino that finds them in such a situation. Kyousuke also finds them doing the same thing pretty much.
>>144282944
So it's one of those things where they tease it and we don't really know for sure.
>>144282908
Oneechans can still fit in between
>>144282911
>nothing gay about that
Go to the Zestiria threads. You'll fit right in with all the those that deny the love between Sorey and Meebo.
>>144282834
If you can't have the guy, you might as well try for one of his other exes.
>>144282834
It's anime, this doesn't mean anything.
>>144283046
Pretty much. I'm sure they're glad Kirino and Kyousuke brought them together.
>>144283182
Time to visit the Nanoha/Illya threads. They'll educate you well. Enjoy.
>>144283277
I still need to watch that.
Kirino and Sora are old and busted.
Pic related is the new hotness.
>>144283563
Elf best girl. For once I'm not rooting for the imouto and I'm doing it while pretending the reverse NBR reveal is real
>>144283563
>child is the illustrator for erotic manga writer
I could watch this.
Howcome the pastebin is never posted?
>>144283563
S L U T
L
U
T
>>144283850
People got tired and you can easily Google it
>>144283840
Anime was confirmed not long ago
>>144283563
Come on, Reverse NBR.
>>144283999
I know, that's why I said watch.
>>144284021
>didn't even grew together
Not even reverse NBR can save it
Years late, I still wanted Ayase to win. I still haven't watched the last 3 episodes.
>>144284236
I bet you like that slut Elf.
>>144284471
You bet I do
>>144284454
Did you even reach the cat bullying? Do it faggot
>>144284614
Kuroneko was a retard, but she didn't need to lose as hard as she did.
I cried after the Kuroneko break-up scene.
>>144284729
I still side with imouto victory. I still think cat dun goofed. I still get she's a weirdo, awkward foul mouthed and annoying at times. But I can't not feel bad for her
>>144266314
>can't talk to other girls at school
>my sister is equally pathetic
>fuck my sister and say we always loved each other
Honestly I'm not surprised /a/ likes incest
>>144253549
It's a pretty fucked-up ending, however. Incest destroys families. It's just sort of up in the air, because nothing good happens from that point onwards.
>>144283840
It's been done
>>144285120
Well I knew long before that that Kirino was the win so I have no excuse.
>>144285308
Now that I think about it, I'm willing to bet it's been done a lot.
>>144285401
Probably. But Cannon Sensei was the only one that came to mind
Why are these siblings so lewd?
>>144285629
because they incest
>>144285629
They're not though?
That's perfectly normal sibling behavior
>>144286202
I dunno, my relationship with my sister isn't anywhere near as lewd as theirs is
My sister is married. I can't related to this animel
>>144286371
NTR your brother-in-law.
>>144286323
You're just distant then. did you never bathed together when little? It's the same kind of thing, nothing lewd about that.
>>144286537
Fuck no, I was 18 when she was 5, that seems a little creepy
