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Danganronpa Zetsubou-hen Chiaki is REAL ?
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So... does she exist?

i thought she was just a AI....

can someone explain it ?
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>>144219640
Yes, she exists.

Yes, throughout DR2 she was an AI, BUT DON'T BOTHER USING SPOILERS OR ANYTHING.

No, literally no one can conclusively explain it because anime isn't finished yet. So far we can only speculate that Makoto and the gang purposefully added Chiaki because it would've been weird if they didn't have one student, they wanted to re-create the class exactly as it was and remain authentic, they needed someone on the inside to talk with them as one of their own.
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>>144219640
Ptoo
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The AI Chiaki was probably modeled after the real Chiaki.
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>>144219640
She died, and the AI Chiaki is based on the real one.
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Pandering
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>kugimiya as nigga
Aaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Of course she does, it's a simulation after all
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>>144220123
>She died
I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet. It's very likely that that she will die, but not a certainty.
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>>144220123
>She died
BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT

>>144220577
I want this meme to die
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>>144219928
>>144220123

These are the most logical conclusions to come to with what we know already, but nothing is set in stone just yet.

The AI must have been based on her, and she must have gotten away from the Despair shit somehow. Whether she died, escaped, or whatever is up to you.

>>144220661

I feel like she's supposed to make us think of wheelchair girl from the spinoff.
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>people already this hard confused
How the fuck did you faggots survive D2 with all its red herrings and Komaeda?
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even as a chiakifag i hope her being alive is meaningful and not purely for pandering to chiakifags. At least have an explanation for her AI or have her die.
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>>144222741
>she's the true mastermind
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>>144221760
More logical seems to be it being another VR sim, especially since Monokuma says in DR2 that he had to create Chiaki's profile. If she was really a student he could have just used that.
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>>144222881

You're right, but I'm willing to bet they forgot that detail.
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>>144219640
shes not real anon. shes a cartoon.
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Reasons to believe Chiaki was never real:

Monokuma had to create a school profile for her; if she really existed, he could have used her real profile

Absolutely no mention of her in reference to 77's fall to despair; if she was a part of it, like the mass suicides of the Reserve Course or the killing of the Student Council, Junko likely would have brought it up as a means of driving them to despair

Her personality remains the same between DR2 and DR3, in spite of DR2 Chiaki clearly having no memories of what life outside VR is like, and being specifically designed a tool for therapy.

This isn't a ton of evidence, but I don't think there's any good evidence that she's real, so I'm going to keep pursuing this theory until it's proven wrong by something in the show.
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>>144223445
Damn, I was one off trips. Then everyone would have to believe me.
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>>144219640
Didn't Chihiro make her? And Usami?
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>>144223619
She and Usami were both made as part of the program, I think. It was a joint effort by Chihiro, plus the Neurologist and Therapist.
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>>144219640
AI Chiaki was modeled after the real one. Izuru will kill the real one for maximum despair.
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>>144221909
I don't think they did.
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>>144223445
Nagito says he read about her online and knows she was SHSL gamer
Monokuma modified her profile to say she was another SHSL despair to trick Nagito
Junko thought letting them believe she was an AI because it was worse despair for them
Because DR2 Chiaki was that, she was a true AI modeled after a real girl
Alter Ego was weird in DR1 too
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4bAj57jj18

Danganronpa: Another Episode has the best ending credits theme out of any of the games. The brother sister duet is too cute.
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>>144224685
AE on PC WHEN
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>>144224592
Most of these are really shitty explanations. If they really decide to make her real, they are possible retcons, but they're weak. They rely, largely, on Junko/Monokuma lying for no real gain.

Nagito reading about her beforehand is the only real piece of evidence, and even that seems like something the program would have done as part of the memory scheme.

Ultimately, I still think that the theory with the highest chance of being true is VR sim, and I'll hold on to it until there is real evidence to disprove it.
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>>144224747
Soon hopefully. After all it's going to be very relevant to DR3 and anyone who claims otherwise is absolutely retarded.
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>>144224791
>Ultimately, I still think that the theory with the highest chance of being true is VR sim, and I'll hold on to it until there is real evidence to disprove it.
Kodaka already said Zetsubou-hen is a prequel
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>>144224859
It can serve as a prequel while also advancing the story by being a VR sim of that time period. One does not preclude the other.
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>>144224791
Actually the first two are literally explained in SDR2
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>>144224791
Monokuma lied to avoid spelling out who the traitor was and to avoid having them realize they were Remnants of Despair and realize literally everything else as well
Junko lies because she's just like that, remember that she said Izuru killed everyone in the first HPA killing game while DR0 that came out before said otherwise
And replacing memories was never shown to be possible, removal is one thing, implanting is another
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>>144219640
I can explain it

It's shameless and embarassing pandering for the shittiest girl

"Rin types" are the cancer of japanese fiction.
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>>144225001
Monokuma lying about creating the profile does nothing to hide the traitor's presence.

Junko lying is just pointless. You're argument is effectively that she did to be lolsorandum. I'm not saying it's impossible for them to make that retcon, just that it seems unlikely.

You're right about implanting being something as of yet unproven. How did people justify him remembering her before the anime gave them this hope?

>>144224997
I don't think I know what you mean.
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>>144225104
These girls are nothing alike. Chiaki isn't even a tsundere.
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>>144225104
I don't understand this comparison at all.
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>>144225137
If Monokuma didn't create a Despair profile for her it would have been obvious who the traitor was
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Hopefully this keeps all the Chiakifags contained here.
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>>144225230
But they were just the School profiles. They didn't have info about them becoming Ultimate Despairs. There was a page on that, but Nagito destroyed it, and that's not what Monokuma was talking about to Chiaki and Hajime when he said he created a profile.
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>>144225104
None of these girls are remotely similar. Please kill yourself.
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>>144219640
Why Nanami is so hated?
She's basically more lively Kirigiri.
Her execution was fucking great.
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>>144225300
Success breeds envy
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Despair Arc opening is so good. The song is great and the visuals are perfect.
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>>144225300
She's mostly hated by one or two samefags in these threads
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>>144225167
>>144225186
>>144225284

It's not about the personality. It's that they're girls the MC would die without existing because he himself is flawed and the girl handholds them through the simplest inworld shit which in a better world would force his development or his failure so on one hand they're like a shitty plot deviice.

Then on top of that they're girls so the MC will effortless turn from "i'm so grateful" to "I want to fuck them" no matter how awkward and bland they actually are.
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>>144225300
She invites tumblr and let's be honest here, her entire character is waifubait.
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>>144225281
And how do you know what he was talking about?
He might have just forged the Despair part
Monokuma likes to fuck around a lot
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>>144223909
So is Izuru going to be in the anime or what?
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>>144225472
How can you tell the story of despair without Izuru?
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>>144225445
DR as a whole invites tumblr and every female character in this series could be said to be waifubait
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>>144225447
Because the context of the scene is really obvious. But yeah, sure, Monokuma could have lied just to fuck around. The issue is that any theory that relies on characters lying for the sake of lying is a pretty weak theory. It's hard to prove and a rare thing for a writer to base their narrative structure on, because it feels so cheap. You might be right, but I don't think that it's strong enough to discredit the evidence yet.

Also, in regards to implanting memories, something occurred to me. I haven't actually read Danganronpa/Zero, so I'd appreciate correction if I'm wrong. Isn't the twist of DZ that Junko has had some memories removed and some implanted? Or is it just removed?
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>>144225442
So you're mad that characters exist to make sure the protagonist survives and learns from his mistakes instead of dying and ending the story early?
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>>144225532
>gamer girl
>is literally one of the only one nicest to you and helps you out

And out of all of them as of current knowledge she's the only one who wasn't seen to have an edgy side. Definitely the waifu bait of 2.
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>>144225656
>So you're mad that ONE character exists to make sure the protagonist survives and is told the answer to mistakes before they happen instead of actually doing them and suffering the consequences for them and perhaps living

Fixed that for you
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>>144225687
Have you actually browsed tumblr? Chiaki is actually one of the least popular girls over there. People are much bigger fans of Ibuki on tumblr.

Not that this matters at all in the slightest. Please stop projecting and fuck off.
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>>144225687
None of the DR2 characters have an edgy side within the game except Mikan and Nagito. Also according to your description someone like Kirigiri would be waifubait
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>>144225842
Sure, reframe it that way. I still don't see what the issue is. You have to reach your conclusion somehow, why not use a character to get your protag there?
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I hope Killer Killer doesn't fall into despair
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>>144225895
My points still stand. The game obviously makes you wanna waifu Chiaki so go fuck yourself.

And you are delusional if you think Chiaki doesn't have a big following there with her retarded Phat memes.
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>>144225985
I'm still curious who's the killer in Giboura Incident.

That has to be someone from DR3 cast. Is that Munakata?
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>>144225842
What is the point of having supporting characters if the protagonist does everyting himself?
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>>144225925
>None of the DR2 characters have an edgy side within the game except Mikan and Nagito.

>what is remanant of despairs

She is literally the only one who hasn't become one somehow.
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>>144225687
So it's bad if something succeeds at what it tries to do?
Good things obviously tried to be good and if you like something that's trying to make you like it then I guess it's shit
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>>144226090
That's because she doesn't real
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>>144226090
Their despair side isn't shown within the game
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It's not a plothole.
>nagito out right says he looked her up online with the rest.
>the vr avatars are based on them before entering the school.
Vr 2.0 threoy is fucking stupid.
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>>144226010
Chiaki's pretty much fulfilling the same role as Kyouko did in the first game. Plus the entire background of her character is that she was programmed from the ground up to help the DR2 characters and save them from despair.

You don't like Chiaki, we get it. But it's not like people don't waifuize the other girls too. Like I said, Ibuki is insanely popular and so are girls like Aoi and Kyouko. You seem to be projecting a tad on how popular Chiaki is.

>>144226090
She was programmed from the ground up to SAVE them from becoming the remnants of despair you retard. Plus she's probably going to die in DR3 before she can even become a remnant of despair.
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>>144226221
Aoi a best
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>>144226169
>Their despair side isn't shown within the game

Don't be retarded. You are shown some images and given descriptions of how each one were like without a single one referring to chiaki since she's not one and aka the waifubait AI.
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>>144226284
Yes, you're shown some images and vague descriptions. None of the characters act like their despair selves except Mikan.
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I hope Killer Killer isn't how the murders will be portrayed in Future Arc. I liked having the methods and motives being played out in the games (even if some of them were super fucking goofy).
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>>144226221
Kirigiri came off as a bitch though doing things herself until naegi hounds her down

Chiaki was ALWAYS nice to you.
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>>144226377
>Chiaki was ALWAYS nice to you.
Chiaki was programmed from the ground up to be nice to others since, you know, the entire premise of her character is based around healing the DR2 cast and undoing Junkos influence on them.
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>>144226377
Doesn't Chiaki spend most of the 2-3 mad at you?
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>>144226377
Kirigiri doesn't come off as a bitch though
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>>144226284
Just curious, are you actually fucking retarded?

You may as well say that we don't see Ibukis despair side in the game because she's no tin that CG.

It's really obvious that Chiaki never fell to despair because she fucking died before she ever had a chance to. Plus the Chiaki we see in DR2 was designed with the purpose of undoing the despair from the DR2 characters.

Plus as >>144226482 says Chiaki actually gets mad at the player, it's not like she has only shown kindness to him.

But I doubt whatever I can say, or whatever anyone else can say will convince you otherwise. You're intent on hating Chiaki just because she's usually nice and anyone who's nice MUST be waifubait and have no other merit to her character.
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I really wish I could have been pleasantly surprised by this. Just to be reading a series and then realize "Oh my god is this related to X?"

Also when would this take place? I mean the world doesn't seem like it's in total despair. So would it be after 3?
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>>144226736
I can only imagine what it must have been like for readers who weren't aware of Danganronpa to find out that the new series they picked up was actually a prequel to another.
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>>144226347
You seem to retarded to understand this.

She is the only one who's not a part of them criminals and clearly made as waifubait for players since she's the good gamer girl who supports Hajime till the end.
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>>144226779
In the Chiaki spinoff manga it implies that when she found out what the DR2 cast did she felt despair for the first time and almost didn't want to help them out.
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>I'm an AUTIST hear me SPERG
>stop liking what I don't like
Kill yourself for hope, my man.
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>>144226779
All of the girls are waifubait. That's the point of having a cast of attractive, distinct female characters, all of whom can be romanced to one level or another. Chiaki is the heroine, but that doesn't make her more of a waifubait character than any of the other girls.
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>>144226736
Ah, reading it, I think it takes place before 2? Despair Remains are still causing havoc.
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>>144226779
Yeah I know, every female character who isn't a complete sociopath is just waifubait
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>>144226779
>Character never fell to despair
>She MUST have been written with the sole purpose of being waifubait

The only one who's retarded here is you. I don't even like Chiaki but jesus christ man calm down. It's not like the other girls aren't waifubait either, and them being despair is not a case against this since people still make Junko their waifu.
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>>144226436
Yes so basically waifubait the character.
>>144226672
She isn't even mad and it's more like some cute tantrum. I honestly can't believe people
are this oblivious to see she's waifubait.

Infact fuck it what makes a character waifubait to you blind fuckers?
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>>144226979
What makes a character waifubait to you? You haven't really defined it. If the idea is that she only exists to be a waifu, that's distinctly wrong. She plays a pivotal role in multiple cases and saves the cast from falling to despair. She's a vital part of the narrative.
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>>144226941
Not him but no one actually waifu's Junko.

She's just hot and we fap to her like any other cumdumpster
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>>144226979
Waifubait is a term only used by retarded people to begin with
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>>144227061
>we
speak for yourself retard
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>>144226779
>She is the only one who's not a part of them criminals
None of them were criminals at the start of DR2 though. They're literally their past selves.
Are you actually retarded? Shove that precrime bullshit up your ass.
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Is this a continuation of the previous Danganronpa series/games or can I go into it blind and watch it? I hear good things about this show but it would be my first Danganronpa anything.
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>>144227207
It's literally made for people who've played the games.
So I'd suggest playing the games.
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>>144227207
It's a continuation. Stay far away. Go play the games.

Run before some anon tries to be edgy and spoils it for you in one post.
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>>144227207
Nice one lad, totally original.
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>>144226979
Waifubait is just another buzzword for "character I don't like."
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>>144227207
At this point, I don't believe this question is anything other than bait.
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>>144226979
You seem to fail to grasp that Chiaki being as kind as she was int he game is part of her character as an AI unit programmed to help the Remnants of despair return to normal. It's part of the narrative of the story rather than part of some shitty wish fulfilment for losers who go "SIIGH~~~ I WISH I HAD A GAMER GIIIRLLLFRIEND".

Plus she outright dies in the story. If they wanted her to be waifubait she would have lived until the end and gotten together with Hajime. She wouldn't have been the traitor either if she was as waifubaity as you imply.

When you get down to it she's no more or less waifubaity than any of the other characters. Most of the girls in DR2 are also kind to Hajime, just take Ibuki for example.

The only person who's blind here is you. It's okay to dislike Chiaki, it's understandable why her character wouldn't appeal to everyone. But this crusade you're going on is absolutely fucking retarded.
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>>144226897
Here's the official timeline
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Stop being so easily trolled, holy shit.
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>>144227273
>>144227237
I'm sorry, I guess a lot of people have been asking. My bad. I will go and check out the games until I have enough context to watch this series with you all. Have a good day.
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>>144226897
Then that means boxer has a reason other than treason to hate Naegi.

Hopefully it'll be revealed in Zetsubou-hen.
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>>144226284
So Kodaka forgot about her execution?
There's no way they could retrieve her body parts. And I doubt they'd confuse her body with her sister's.
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>>144227365
I think that all executions are shown over the top on purpose.
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>>144227345
It worked? We told someone to go play the games and they're actually going to do it? I can't believe this.
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>>144227365
I don't think that you're supposed to take the executions 100% literally. They're exagerated as fuck afterall. Do you also believe that Mondo was literally turned into butter>
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>>144227315
I'd love to find out how Naegi captured the entire class of Despair. Although it was probably something boring like throwing a knockout gas into a room like how Hope Arc started.
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Is there a talent more useless than Chiaki's?
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>>144227450
It's nothing that dramatic, they explain it in DR2. They contacted the FF and reported themselves as survivors of Hope's Peak and the FF sent people to pick them up and then entrusted them to Naegi without realizing who they were.
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>>144227479
I think being a therapist is quite useful to society.
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>>144227450
It would be really cool to see, but I doubt the anime will get into it.
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>>144227421
I bet it's some elaborate joke about giving us hope and then crushing it.
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>>144227450
Didn't the first minutes of Mirai-hen show the capture of some of them? Mikan, Kuzuruyu+Akane+Peko+Nidai squad. FF was heavily involved, not Naegi alone, he is not a field work guy obviously.
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>>144227442
>I don't think that you're supposed to take the executions 100% literally
I feel that but then we get goofy stuff like Nekomaru shitting so hard he caused a Dragonball Z level crater to pop up.

> Do you also believe that Mondo was literally turned into butter
I want to believe.
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>>144227479
Being the Ultimate Shitposter, probably.
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>>144227442
>>144227406
Yeah but her body was stomped. I don't think that's over the top. What was shown just before probably is though.
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>>144227632
But her being crushed wasn't the only part of the execution, why should we take it for granted then?
Or do you want me to believe she survived all the character's previous executions and then got brick'd?
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They even showed the end of Junko's execution at the beginning of Mirai ep 1.
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>>144226482
When was this? Can't remember
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Do you think Peko even fell into Despair or just kind of shrugged her shoulders and went with it because of Fuyuhiko?
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>>144219640
she's a robot
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>>144227760
The Ibuki Saionji case. I don't even remember why she gets mad, but I remember her being sulky for most of it, and that's why you don't have all the info she gathers when you go into the case.
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>>144227039
I've already said her entire character defines it.

>>144227156
Yeah because shit like chapters 5 don't exist huh?

>>144227287
Yeah because dying just doesn't make her waifubait huh? Out of all the deaths she pretty much had the most depressing one and even whe she was supposed to be gone and Hajime was going through a crisis in the last chapter guess who fucking helped him out in his head? She is definitely the one female you're are meant to like the most .

I honestly suprised people are this persistent to deny she's the obvious waifu bait out of 2.
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>>144227156
Kuzuryuu killed someone before DR2.
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my wife was beautiful in this weeks episode.
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>>144227793
>My master is evil now, I guess I'll go buy some red contacts.
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>>144227854
>much character is waifu bait
What are you even arguing about? Are you autistic or something? What does it matter if the character panders to certain audience? She's back and there's fuck all you can do about it.
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>>144227854
>The character is bad because she's just waifubait
Ok, what's waifubait?
>waifubait is defined as this character

lel
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>>144227912
>animated Ibuki
>animated DR2 cast
What is the sorcery. How did this massive incline with quality original material and not one but two intertwining shows even happen? Did some parallel bizarro world leak or something.

I wish they'd leak long and faithful Berserk adaptation too.
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Do you think we're gonna see the mass suicide?
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>>144227854
whole DR2 is just waifubait the game unlike DR1 who has more Male characters than females
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>>144226547
Yes she does you retard
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>>144228041
We have to. I wonder if they will do a couple of timeskips first showing the atrocities and then leading to their capture.
That will be a bit disappointing if they will spend most of the season with SoL with vague Junko antics in the end.
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>>144227935
Look buddy i answered someone's question so don't be buthurt about it.

>>144227937
I've literally given so many examples as to why she is and you are just being retarded.

I've even told you to give me what you think it is and still haven't got one so go fuck yourself.
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>>144228124
Good. She seems like a bitch to you and not like a bitch to me. That's called having an opinion. No need to be a dick about it.
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>>144228124
No she doesn't
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>>144228193
Yes she does
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>>144228193
Yes she does you literal autist

It's like you faggots don't play the games
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>>144228162
You haven't defined waifubait, though. You're just saying things you don't like about Chiaki, and then declaring her to be the epitome of this concept that you have tautologically defined as being her.
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>>144228216
>>144228225
When?
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>>144227854
Do you even know what Waifubait is?

"Waifubait" is a term for characters that serve no other purpose to the story other than to be cute and get otaku to pay for merch involving her. I don't know if you noticed but Chiaki actually has a huge purpose to serve in the story, she exists in the show for reasons other than just being cute. And honestly when you look at her character as a whole "Cute gamer girl" doesn't make up a lot of it.

The fact that she's genuinely kind or cares for Hajime doesn't make her waifubait. Do you declare romance anime as "waifubait" just because it's obvious that "Girl A" and "Boy A" care for one another and will end up together?

Chiaki isn't any more or less "waifubait" than the other female characters in the series. And if you think "Oh but she's the only one who didn't fall to despair" is an argument against that then you're fucking retarded. I don't know if you noticed, but people still have DR2 characters as their waifus despite them being psychopaths.

Plus honestly I see girls like Ibuki, Kyouko and Mahiru getting heralded as the top tier waifus in the community. Chiaki has her fair share of fans sure but not nearly as much as some of the other girls.
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>>144228293
Yes she does
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>>144228296
I wish this were the canon ending.
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>>144228293
>what is the end of chapter 3
>what is chapter 5

Typical waifufags not playing the games. Not like they care. They only like fapping off to their waifu.
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>>144228296
Not that anon but Chiaki is waifubait

This isn't even an argument. It's fact
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>>144228354
>They only like fapping off to their waifu.
Where exactly do you think you are?
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>>144228397
>Not that anon but Chiaki is waifubait
Oh I'm sure.

>This isn't even an argument. It's fact
Actually you've convinced me. Congratulations!
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>>144228354
How does she come off as a bitch in chapter 5? are you retarded?
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>>144226858
Isn't that the one where Chiaki's OOC as hell most of the time? I wouldn't take it seriously.
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>>144228428
Well that's one waifufag redeemed.
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>>144228434
Are you retarded? Play the whole fucking trial you dumb autist.
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>>144228397
Nice argument.
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>>144227934
>now
>implying the SHSL yakuza was ever good
Also she already had red eyes IIRC
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>>144228496
>not wanting to die for Naegi makes her a bitch
are you retarded?
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>>144228579
>autist confirmed

Well thanks for showing you didn't actually play through everything.
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>>144228525
I don't think he was necessarily evil. But certainly not good.

From my understanding, Yakuza/Mafia/All those types of gangs are supposed to be for going around the law. Prohibition comes to mind. It's not necessarily an occupation that's evil.
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>>144227793
I could see them pulling that actually.
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This thread is a fucking mess. Both sides of this argument are fucking retarded.

For the purposes of getting discussion back on track: When do you guys think Junko comes into the picture? The first episode of Despair only showed us the DR2 characters 3 months into their year. We'll have to wait a whole other year before Junko shows up. Will we just get a year of SoL dicking around followed by a timeskip to Junko ruining everything?
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>>144228658
>autist
do you know what this word means?
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>>144228296
>I don't know if you noticed but Chiaki actually has a huge purpose to serve in the story

Other than being cute,nice and supportive which somehow helps recover the despairs as well?

Damn bruh that's such an important role no one can possibly pull off and definitely not some obvious way of making you want to waifu her on top of her being a gamer girl.

You waifu'ing who ever is up to you but if you genuinely think the developers didn't try to get you to like Chiaki the most throughout the entire game then I'm done with you blind retards.
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>violent attacks occurring one after the other across the globe
>widespread civil unrest and riots
>military coups
>natural disasters

Is the world falling into despair? Is it time to join her?
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>>144228689
>Will we just get a year of SoL dicking around followed by a timeskip to Junko ruining everything?
We'll probably get a timeskip for Hinata to complet the Izuru Kamakura project and Junko will either show up after that or we'll small appearances from her interacting with the DR2 cast and preparing them for despair.
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>>144228743
>if you genuinely think the developers didn't try to get you to like Chiaki the most throughout the entire game

This isn't what waifubait is. Maybe learn what your buzzwords mean before dying on that hill.
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>>144228689
Probably. I guess they'll have at least 3-4 episodes about cute antics with probably just Hajime brooding around. Afterwards shit will start to get real.
>>144228743
By your logic literally every girl can be defined as waifubait. That's retarded.
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>>144228669
Normal person
>find out your sister was murdered
>call the cops and have the bitch responsible arrested
SHSL yakuza
>find out your sister was murdered
>kill the bitch responsible with a baseball bat to the head
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>>144228743
>but if you genuinely think the developers didn't try to get you to like Chiaki the most throughout the entire game
So getting the player to like a character is wrong?
>I'm done with you blind retards.
Yeah you should probably go back to /v/
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>>144228743
Main characters are meant to be likeable. And Kodaka himself admitted he wanted to make her a heroine. Stil doesn't give the word waifubait any meaning
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>>144228789
I don't remember Junko causing natural disasters
But I've already pledged my unwavering loyalty to Lady Junko
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>>144228816
Yakuza have an eye for an eye mentality. It's their way of justice. I don't think that makes him evil. It just represents the way he was raised.
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AYO HOL UP how the fuck is a mute the ultimate therapist? Does she such their dicks till the crazy goes away?
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>>144227906
See
>>144226779
>She is the only one who's not a part of them criminals
Criminal, in this case = remnants of despair
Also Kuzuryuu forgot about Girl E. His avatar is not a criminal, unless there is another victim I am unaware of.
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>>144228992
You can probably guess who she actually is.
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>>144228976
>eye for an eye
Heh.
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>>144228976
>an eye for an eye
I see what you did there.
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>>144229069
Are there any real clues to who she is within the story?

I feel that all we have going for us is meta stuff like "CV:??? SO SHE'S PROBABLY A FORMER CHARACTER"
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>>144229069
But that would be too fucking stupid. But considering that one scene, the dick-sucking theory might be close to home...
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>>144227699
Yeah I find it suspicious how they showed the end of her execution again, to show us she was crushed into a bloody mess. Which makes you wonder how SDR2 cast could even implant any of her body parts when she's mince meat.
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EVEN SO
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Komaru needs potty training!
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>>144228789
You know with so much shit happening across the globe I wonder whether there's a Junko around.
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>>144229196
Maybe she's the 16th student of 77th class?
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I'm confused. Which class was the first who did the first killing game? Who were they?
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>>144229280
Deviantart is the true despair of the internet.

>>144229260
I figure she was horribly mutilated, but maybe a few parts were salvageable. Anything more than a hand or a womb and they'd probably actually try to revive her.

As for trying to fuck her corpse... I guess they just stuck their dick in wherever they wanted.
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>>144219640
What if Zetsubo-hen is just another simulation based on those school days, so that the comatose poeple can wake up again after reliving their past. My theory is that the teacher is the main antagonist and has become an ai similar to junko in dr2. Would explain the scene in the beginning.
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>>144229456
It was the student council members and Izuru, not really any class
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>>144229456
Сlass 78. They are one year younger than class 77, cast of DR2. Junko is a beautiful kohai.
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>>144229341
She'd have it easy in our world
>she's an indipendent woman who don't need no man, you don't like her because you're a misogynistic asshole
>#notalldespairs
>check your hoprivilrge
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>>144229397
I think Monaca would've grown just enough to look like that from AE to DR3. Or am I mistaken?
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>>144229527
>hay guys what if zetsubo is another simulation??? wow mind blown
Please stop you're probably the hundredth person to post this shit
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>>144229609
It's been a year tops, so unless she had an absolutely massive growth spurt...
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>>144229527
According to the timeline, Despair arc takes place starting from 1 year before DR1 cast arrive up to the events of DR1. So unless they're outright lying to us, your theory isn't possible.
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>>144229580
>They are one year younger than class 77
Except Hagakure
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>>144229580
Class 78 didn't participate in a killing game until SDR2

>>144229574
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>>144229594
Very true Anon.
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>>144219640
>can someone explain it ?
no one fucking knows yet, there's only been two episodes and not enough to go on to make any sort of educated guess about
does everyone nowadays look at a mystery the writers are obviously setting up (in a mysteries-focused franchise of all things) and then bitch at the existence of it or is this an /a/ exclusive thing?
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Yo if Junko's finally dead and Monaka is with them, who's controlling Chromobaer?
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>>144229785
Hagakure duh
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>>144229785
Junko
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>>144229641
If she can make fucking Monokumas, she can probably do whatever she wants.
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>>144229785
>if Junko's finally dead

Anon Please..
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So where the hell is Fuyuhiko's sister.
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Danganronpa? More like Trashmanronpa amirite guys?
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>>144229825
>inb4 DR1 was merely a setback!
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>>144229867
She's not in the same class as him. Why do people here keep asking this, /a/ of all people should know what an imouto is.
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>>144229867
She's the Ultimate Little Sister

She's probably in the same class as the rest of the DR1 cast.
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>>144229883
what
i'm not saying danganronpa isn't bad but you could've put some more effort into that one
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>>144229883
>Trashmanronpa
That doesn't sound too good, come up with something better.
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>>144229883
Bitch Please. Its Dangling Grandpas. Try harder next time.
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>>144229938
>>144229940

So yakuza sister and the girl who murdered her were part of Naegi's class?

I'm finding it quite tough to find the crossover.
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>>144229731
Isn't class 78 Naegi's class?
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>>144230024
No,Same year different class.
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>>144230024
>were part of Naegi's class
That was never stated anywhere. Same year maybe but not the same class.
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>>144230136

>That was never stated anywhere.

>>144229940 said it. I didn't believe it either, I'm just trying to figure out where shit fits together.
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>>144227692
She's probably got SHSL toughness too, the crushing probably just broke her nose at most.
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>>144230089
Fuck, I messed up, yeah 78 is Naegi's class
Student Council > Class 78 > Class 77 > Future Foundation
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>>144230205
never stated anywhere in actual DR material I mean, >>144229940 is just speculating
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Hope's Peak has more then one class per year. Though they do really emphasize THE 77TH or THE 78TH when referring to Remnants/Naegi's class.
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>>144230205
They are from the same year but different class.
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>>144230249
True. Although being a little sister in the same year is kind of weird. I just assumed.
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>>144225445
>her entire character is waifubait.

THIS. She existed solely to pander to the people who want a gamer girlfriend.

In reality these 'gamer girlfriends' are 350 pounds and shower weekly.
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Time travel
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>>144227912
how does it feel to have shit taste?
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>>144230337
>>144225445
I just liked her because she was a chill assistant-type figure to detective Hajime. I dunno why people aren't allowed to like any characters period without "waifufag" being thrown around nowadays, no actual discussion or anything ever results from it either.
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>>144230441
I don't know.Tell me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckOqaWfXAWc
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>>144220652
It's probably what caused Hajime Hinata to manifest Izuru Kamakura as his avatar of ultimate despair in the first place and lead to the downfall of the rest of the class
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>>144230369
MIND HACKS
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>>144230468
Given that this is /a/, you can probably guess why.
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>>144230479
FEEL THE BERN.
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Would you a RL Junko?
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>>144227061
>no one actually waifu's Junko
Fuck off lad
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>>144220652
That seems like the most obvious route to go with it. Easy enough to tie into Izuru's hatred of Junko too.
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>>144230645
Izuru was Junko's underling though
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>>144230610
Yes in a heartbeat
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>>144230610
Fuck no.
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>>144229260
Hamburger goes down easy.
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>>144230610
I wouldn't touch a RL Junko with a 100 meter pole.
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Making Danganronpa in to a multimedia franchise was a mistake.
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FUCK YOU JUNKO
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>>144230610
Only if she was as good looking as she was in the franchise itself
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>>144230740
Was he properly? He was definitely despaired, but it was more out of a hatred for Junko I think more than a love.

Maybe those are one and the same.
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>>144222741
She and Hajime will fall in love again with it ending same way
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>>144230740
Seems to be a similar case to Nagito where he both loves and hates her. It's unclear at the moment though.
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>>144230863
It should've ended with 2 but here we are. There's no stopping now, gotta milk it fast.
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>>144230937
The reason he loves her is probably because she can create ultimate hope if she's defeated.
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>>144230468
No one cares why you like her insecure buddy.

He was just stating what it is.

You are free to like whoever you want.
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>>144230982
Eh, I disagree.
Danganronpa can last long if every new game was different, kinda like what V3 is trying to do.
The hope's academy arc is done with 1 and 2. V3 could be a semi-reboot with new ideas, new mastermind, etc.
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>>144230982
If you are gonna milk it, milk it in game format.

Fuck this anime shit, tons of untranslated LN shit, bunch of manga shit and live action shit
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>>144231059
>insecure buddy
>He was just stating what it is.
nice projection
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Who is monaca and why do people hate her so much?
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>>144227450
>H-Hey Izuru.
>D-Do you want to try something interesting?

As he pisses his pants.
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>>144231161
You are insecure if someone not liking your waifu affects you somehow and you have to justify her.
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>>144221760
CHIAKI IS LITERALLY THE GIRL WITH THE SCARF IN THE FUTURE ARC
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>>144227810
Chiaki never gets angry at Hajime in 2-3, you're probably confusing her with Kirigiri when she got mad at Naegi for not telling her of Sakura's secret.
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>>144231169
Play DRAE,she is satan.
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>>144231252
Yeah, I"m definitely mixing up two entirely separate characters from two entirely separate games.

Anon, come on.
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