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Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
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>>144136908
I spy a sneaky ぞい
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhj2SQZLu8w
>>144183253
I bet that's Imouto-san
Hola, ¿seria este la clase correcta?
>>144183454
kill yourself spic
>>144183454
no poder
>>144183542
Oh dear, I triggered /pol/.
>>144183625
oh dear, i triggered a spic
run along and go choke to death on some tacos you greasy cunt
Have you ever known a Nipponjin to ever be offended by the words Jap and Nip?
>>144183686
いじめ禁止！
>>144183711
I'd imagine Nips don't even know what racism is, unless they're filthy haafus living in America
できなかった・・でも今度できる
>>144183686
おやー乱暴な虫みたいなぁ
>>144183817
The word 人種偏見 exists.
>tfw no stamina
>tfw take a break almost every ln page
i waste so much time
>>144184077
I know this feel
Some days I can just fly through pages without even noticing, but today I just feel so restless
>>144183686
"no"
>>144183542
As a spic, I can confirm he's not one.
>>144184077
You build stamina like you build vocab. With practice. Work out, do some cardio or other high intensity exercise.
>>144184396
I am but my Spanish is really basic.
>Want to read more
>Don't want my vocab backlist to get any bigger
>>144184776
Do you want to read more?
>>144184839
読めないか
>>144184776
>want to play idolmaster all day
>have to read "hard" stuff instead because I'm out of new cards and idolmaster vocab is baby shit
複雑な気分
>>144184901
Is idolmaster really that fun? I find these idol games get boring after a while when you realise you're just doing the same thing over and over again.
>>144185256
Every game is just that, you're doing the same shit until you get tired or really good at it.
How fun a rhythm game is to you depends on how much you like the music, and I like Im@s stuff a lot.
>>144185419
>Every game is just that
no
>>144186036
Example of one that isn't?
>>144186221
every adventure game
but tons of other games too
strategy games, action games
you're not really doing the same thing over and over again, unless you boil it down to a very abstract level where "constructing buildings" or "killing enemies" is what you're doing
>>144186723
Well saying that idolmaster is the same thing over and over is pretty boiled down as it is, not that much of a leap to use that same logic for any game
>>144185419
>Every game is just that, you're doing the same shit until you get tired or really good at it.
a true shit eaters mentality, its ok anon go enjoy your terrible moeshit games
>>144186901
Alright anon. Go ahead and go back to your superior games of patrician taste.
>>144186850
I don't know idolmaster, I was just talking about games in general
In one book i see a "simplified causative form". I dont have it with me right now but one example is 食べさせる -> 食べさす
I figured its just a contraction, but i read somewhere it implies a more forceful "make ~ do ~"
For example with 食べさせる perhaps telling someone to eat and 食べさす being for something directly feeding them.
I've only seen this in one book. Anyone familiar with this? Does the info i gathered sound right?
>>144187711
This is why you shouldn't read a text books for learning language
>>144188553
Yeah youre right, reading weeb ass manga is the only way to learn japanese
Fucking idiot.
>>144188553
>text books withoout 'a'*
>>144188612
Welp here is a geinus who read text books when he born before he can understand his mother's language
>>144187711
Watch more anime and it will all become clear
このドクターペッパーはくそや塩のような味を持ってる・・返済したいよぉ
>>144188612
そのほうがいいけど
what is this?
https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&site=&source=hp&q=%48%6F%77%20%74%6F%20%6A%6F%69%6E%20%49%53%49%53%20%69%73%6C%61%6D%69%63%20%73%74%61%74%65%20%61%6E%64%20%62%6F%6D%62%20%74%68%65%20%6E%69%67%67%65%72%20%69%6E%20%74%68%65%20%57%68%69%74%65%20%48%6F%75%73%65
>>144188770
あの眼鏡が私の愛液をかけるぞい
>people who literally don't even understand grammar arguing about learning methods to cover up their incompetence on both sides
>>144189073
...
>>144189072
アイ・エイント・クリッキング・ダット・シット・ニッガ
>>144189072
Something about joining ISIS, triggering a bomb in the white house, and other shenanigans. At this point it's moot considering how the NSA is watching so many people they can't keep track.
>>144189115
なんてね～
>>144189110
「grammar」って何
>>144189072
いいウイルス・・
Guys what's this kanji
>>144189275
it's a varriant of 手
>>144189118
w
>>144189275
前にそれを見たかも・・
What kanji is this?
>>144189473
ちんちん!
>>144189275
風 obviously
>>144189307
あそうねぇありがとう
>>144189650
何言ってるよ
ぜんぜん違うだろう
>>144183711
They often use ジャップ ironically when imitating how various foreigners laugh at them, so I imagine it's at least sensitive.
>>144188553
>>144188710
Reminder why this board is shit and none of you will ever learn japanese, make friends, get a girlfriend, or get a decent job.
>>144191808
Is that supposed to concern anyone? Fucking normalfags, I swear.
Reminder to do your reps everyday even if you don't want or feel like doing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGNuJt1K45A
>>144189120
>can't keep up
Nigger Soviet Russia was doing this in the 40s. The NSA has a much easier time watching people.
>>144192341
>get good at japanese
>just means it takes 100+ hours for any noticable improvement
>still not fluent
Do we still like Namasensei? I'm watching his twitch. It feels like he drinks less these days.
Also I went to a used japanese bookstore today and bought a kid's book, it's all in hiragana and the title is しらゆきひめ。 I'm guessing it's snow white and the seven dwarves considering the seven dwarves on the cover.
>>144194227
>Do we still like Namasensei
of course, as an ausfag i was always curious to the response that the average american would have when exposed to their nuked creations
apparently its to drink themselves into oblivion like any good abusive father
遅すぎね..みんなもう諦めたかも
>>144195121
私は日本語を許さない。
私は日本語を破壊する！
>>144194227
Never liked him.
しら＝白
ゆき＝雪
ひめ＝姫
I haven't been here in a while, but are there fewer people here now than there normally used to be? Seems like it to me, which is especially surprising since it's summer.
Anything in particular you do to improve your listening abilities, DJT?
I'm running into a problem with radio shows, talk tracks, etc. where the speakers often talk so fast that it's difficult for me to actually keep up with what they're saying and I often have to rewind and replay multiple times.
>>144195294
Listen to shit. Lots of shit. The best shit.
>>144195276
>>144195294
Start with something that goes at a slower speed, like VNs or anime.
Pretty obvious.
Accidentally reuploaded my Core2k/6k deck to Anki by accident and just 200 cards worth of progress. Go through first twenty and its exactly the same as the first day's set so I think to myself "Why not set it to 200 cards and quickly mark them all at like 5 days?". Nothing else has been the same cards since I changed the daily amount to 200. Fucking kill me. blogpost.
>>144195183
日本語が僕にもう破壊された
>>144195276
みんな投稿したくないだけ
>>144195701
(︶︹︺)
Does everything boil down to just getting your hands dirty and reading as much as possible? I've gone over vocab and grammar and yet I still have trouble reading. I sort of "get" what's being said but I can't really put it into words. I don't know if it's because I'm focusing too much on translating when I should just be trying to understand what I'm reading, or if I'm just retarded.
>>144196351
Same
>>144196351
Well fuck, why on Earth would reading help you read better? Sounds like bullshit to me.
何で京都へ行きますか？
電車で行きます。
I don't get nande.
Here it's used as what did you use but sometimes it's used for "why" as well
>>144196414
Well there's a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things. You can't just throw a kid in a pool and tell him to swim if he want to swim.
>>144196351
No, you better pay money to jalup and ajatt to get their magical anki decks, buy 10 different JLPT preparation books and grind them until you're fluent.
>>144196351
It's a mix of everything really, study more grammar, grind more vocab, read more, listen more, it's a matter of time before your brain adjusts itself to the speed, the difficulty and the nuances.
>>144195276
But aren't summerfags more interested in shitposting in the other /a/ threads? Also most summerfags stop coming pretty quickly and give up.
The DJT "regulars" are probably reading, jacking off, studying, lurking >>144195428 or dead. Even imouto must get bored of coming here daily.
>>144196457
It's なに in this case. Go read Tae Kim's entry about で
Why does なまえ use hiragana instead of katakana, is it just a coincidence it's pronounced like that?
>>144197221
It's just a coincidence.
>>144197221
You're fucking retarded.
Ora manko ga daisuki nanda
オラまんこが大好きなんだ
愚かな質問けど「ペラペラ」って意味は何？？
意見をちょうだい
俺様は日本
這いつくばるがいい
wonder if an IDE for jap would be useful or just annoying
>>144187711
If the book is dobjg then sure, it's right.
２ｃｈは、なに板が一番おもしろいの？
私は読むことで日本語を勉強するつもりだけどゲームとか漫画とかはもう十分つかった、今もう疲れる。
このメッセージで間違いが有りえるなら答えて言ってください！
よろしく。
>>144196351
If you can mostly understand what is happening, I think that is enough. After reading 3 VNs and now 1/3 through my first LN there are lots of times where I don't understand what is going on at all and plenty of times where I misunderstand things. Unless is it seems really important, I just keep going and don't worry about it. If it does seem important I'll look up the translation or ask here.
I'm not saying this is the best way to do it because I would probably benefit from analyzing the sentences more or looking up grammar more often, but I think it is better than overanalyzing everything.
Just keep reading, and you will probably get better. I'm probably getting better, but I can't say for sure.
>>144198363
I just noticed that I should've used ある instead of 有りえる. Fuck me.
>>144198363
>２ｃｈ
Even thinking about walls of text and no pretty images is just exhausting.
What's the general word to say skill? As in skill in using a program or coding skills or something? 技能？
今日は日本語をほとんど使わない
>>144198555
技術もかも
>>144198363
２ｃｈに行きたいけど日本に住んでないから行けない
>>144198555
I've seen 才能 used for videogames so I guess it should be the same.
>>144198363
充分「つかった」ようには全然見えないけどな
お前がアニメやゲーム投げ出すには五年早い
>>144198555
腕
>>144199035
才能は運動神経のように生まれて持つ印象があって、勉強すれば身につくようなものではないと思うよ
日本で一体何が起こっているの？！
>韓国語使うなってつってんだろクソやろ恥ずかしい
>i said don't use korean you shitbags. embarrassing
>>144200689
ネトウヨ死ね
>>144198909
行けるよ
外人がポスト出来る掲示板がある、「Anarchy」など。
>>144199549
平成がおわるよ
皇太子殿下が即位するよ
>>144201342
イエーイ
やっと時代の何年か覚えるようになる
>>144201127
>Anarchy
つまらないみたい、ここがいい
>>144197997
An onomatopoeia for fluent in the sense of speaking. e.g. 英語ペラペラ
>>144202382
wow you can use a dictionary, reddit could use skills like yours
>>144202719
>>144183112
>>144177406
From last thread, if you find yourself in this thread and didn't notice the reference. The changed line is a reference to Final Fantasy 10.
https://youtu.be/7gLOamc8zQ8?t=114
>最後かもしれないだろ だから全部話しておきたいんだ
Altered for space restrictions:
>→最後かも だから全部話しておきたいんだ
Would be safe to say that most here played the game when they were a teenager? If you've read the first volume of 苺ましまろ, you will probably get the combination of references and how it alludes to the journey that is DJT: you can [not] learn japanese.
>>144202719
Did you want to know the etymology or meaning of ペラペラ even though as I said it's an onomatopoeia?
Ok, ぺら hints something thin and light, perhaps related to the word 薄っぺら. (add here a pejorative word to make myself clear)
後追い自殺
Why is there a term for this?
>>144203150
I want you to ignore retarded reddit tier questions instead of spoonfeeding
What's the functioning difference between 勤めてand 働いて?
>>144203186
>I want you
This isn't your hugbox. What you want is entirely fucking irrelevant.
>>144199549
あと
海の星が共学になるよ
BON BON
What does
>からからと笑う
mean? I know the literal definition, but I don't know what it means. In English a dry laugh is a sarcastic or superficial one, but からから seems like it could indicate a nervous, parched cracking laugh.
I'm also not sure how the following words fit together. I get the gist of it, but not enough to translate it.
>女は連れのショートカットと声を合わせて横顔でうなすいた
>>144185419
Is this deja vu? I swear this anon says the same thing every time about idolmaster
What's the difference between 村 and 里? In which situation would I use one or the other?
Can someone help me with this?
just finished yotsubato volume 3
how much longer until im fluent
>>144204840
オマケ？
>>144204864
Another volume or two
>>144204875
Holy shit I'm retarded. Thank you.
>>144204525
からからにはさんしゅるいくらい、はつおんがあるよ
>から↑から↑
乾いてる
>か↑ら↓か↑ら↓
木とかの音
>か↑ら↓か↓ら↓
金属とかの音
>>144204864
You need to read at least two dozen volumes.
>>144204910
三種類…
どうも…
>kinky
>禁忌
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIT
>>144205642
缶
>>144205642
>>144205685
メジャー・トムは地球に帰れたの？
>>144194227
He's fun and a good teacher, but it should go without saying that you should distrust what he teaches because his own grasp of japanese is plainly not great.
>>144205940
少佐トムじゃない、あほ
>>144203278
働いて is being a wageslave
勤めて is more like duty
>約束の時間に遅れたAが、Aを待っているBに電話をする。
What does this mean?
>>144206674
A, who was late for the promised time, calls B who is waiting for A
>>144206674
A, being late for their arranged time, called B who was waiting for him
>>144206729
>>144206739
Very good, Djt has improved since the last a, b or c question. Be proud of your self boys.
>>144206777
Right now it's the middle of the night for USA and time for work for Europe, so only dedicated NEET japanese learners are online
>>144206826
Best time
まったくおにいちゃんは
こころにもないことをいう
is there any site i can use to get accustomed to numbers read vocally? like some kind of repetition game that goes on for as long as you want it to
>>144207094
I could do with something like this too, whenever I hear anyone talk numbers in Japanese my brain just switches off
>>144206902
どうしたの
>>144192341
i can barely read yotsubato but already i cant stand seeing translated manga, why am i so arrogant
/rant
>>144208641
For every EOP tear you drink your japanese ability goes up by +1
Next time there's a live translation yotsubato thread, make sure to mock every one of those shitters by telling them how easy it is
>mfw after over 2 years of studying I finally realize that it's actually impossible to "learn" Japanese, in that there is no one point in time where you suddenly "know" Japanese, but you just slowly get better and better over time, over decades, improving every time you interact with Japanese but never truly "learning" it in a complete sense
>>144210086
Are you legitimately retarded?
>>144210086
look at it this way
once you can look up definitions in japanese, and understand them, you can confidently say you're bad at japanese
>>144210086
Did you think after reading enough VNs you get a pop up saying 日本語GET from whence on you are fluent or something?
>>144210363
What, that doesn't happen?
Dropped
>>144210363
I got a plaque signed by every member of the Diet commemorating my achievement. Try harder.
きっとできるよ
おにいちゃんをしんじてるよ
な after verbs confuses the fuck out of me
Is 謝ってきちゃいなよ go and apologise or don't go and apologise? Context says the former but I can't fucking tell, especially with the ちゃい there aswell
>>144210750
Shortened なさい?
>>144210750
go apologise
>>144210750
You can tell it's なさい because it's attached to the masu stem rather than following the full verb.
>>144210984
>>144211015
Thanks
>>144211040
Ah thank you, I was wondering if there was a difference in the verb form, I'll try and remember that
嘘のつけない質問を投げられた
What does this mean, in particular the 嘘のつけない? She threw me an undodgeable question, or a question I can't lie about?
>>144210723
いつもありがとういもうとさん
がんばり続けます
>>144211159
Yes
嘘のつけない modifies 質問
Can 延期 be used in this context?
The conference is not going to end today and there's still much to do, so we have to 延期 it.
>>144212758
I don't think you can randomly use kanji in an English sentence, no.
>>144212804
Man no wonder all those japs were laughing at me
>>144212758
Look up what it means and it should be clear.
真ん中それとも食わす
>>144210086
Just set yourself a goal or something. Pick something (manga/anime/etc) and when you can read/watch it with subs or looking shit up then you've "learned" it as far as you need.
lang8で何書いたらいいかなーーーなにも思い出せんや
>>144213643
女性に振られた経験を語ればいいのではないか
どうせたくさんあるだろう
>>144213643
Should use HelloTalk instead
>>144213778
女性と話しかけるのは怖いんだから一度もしたとこないよぉ
>>144213870
それも使うけど最近飽きちゃったからやめてラインの友達しか話さない
>>144213939
>女性と
女性に
>ラインの友達しか
ラインの友達としか
Did anyone here try the Kanji Study app on android?
It looks really well made with over 6k kanji to study with drawing, flashcard mode and other features but the creator demands 10 bucks if you want to study any non-N5 kanji.
Is it worth it?
>>144213994
恥ずかしいｗ
>>144214097
Don't do kanji study.
>>144214120
I'll show you 恥ずかしい
>>144214097
>6k kanji
stop
>>144214097
my concern is that it seems to take kanji meanings and readings verbatim from kanjidic2, a lot of which are misleading/incorrect beyond joyo
looks nice though
>>144206826
Dedicated learners don't come to DJT.
>>144214097
I've got an Anki deck with everything contained in the 漢検 and it's free. Paying for something else probably isn't worth it for me, can't say what it is worth to you.
つひにゆく
道とはかねて
聞きしかど
昨日今日とは
思はざりしを
>>144215324
Projection much
>>144215479
日本語でオッケーｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
仕事しろ役立たず（どうせ読めもしない）
>>144215570
>どうせ読めもしない
what did he mean by this
>>144215678
He misspelled 嫁 I think ,
Why doesn't Hanahira! show up in ITH process ? Triple check, and ITH is running in admin mode.
Anyone know where I can find Yotsuba raw? Link i found all dead for a million years already,
>>144216049
Happened to me when I first used ITHVNR with Flyable Heart, restart shit until it works I guess.
90% give up in a month
9% will settle for forever intermediate status
1% will keep pushing and actively studying when others around them are spamming "just read lol"
>>144215678
>読めもしない
"can't even read"
>>144216149
Surely it's in the CoR
>>144216363
>tfw you're part of the 1%
in terms of reading at least. i'll forever be speech crippled
>>144216363
0.1% actually watch enough anime to become fluent
仕事のしないメイドなど貰っても邪魔なだけ、役に立たない奴隷は犬の餌
>>144216694
"I've been watching anime for 10 years, I can more or less understand without subs, basically fluent"
>>144216776
Nice projection
>>144216808
Care to elaborate?
>>144216567
Not him, but the mega link in the reading list says that the files are encrypted.
双方のの言語不足の意味
>>144216848
You'll understand when you've watched more anime.
>>144216905
Ah, well there's a torrent of it with plenty of seeds on nyaa anyway so not sure what that guys smoking
>>144216918
I just don't understand how I could be possibly be projecting. Are you saying I watched 10 years of anime and am now fluent?
>studying for over a year and a half
>intermediate according to jcat
>still fuck up basic particles
>>144217005
It's not a race bitch
>>144202896
Didn't notice that reference. I haven't read 苺ましまろ.
So I was pretty much right.
>>144216989
Well your post has nothing to do with me since I'm not Fin, so it's just kinda process of elimination
>Are you saying I watched 10 years of anime and am now fluent?
I'm not sure you even understand the implication of your own post. You should watch some more American cartoons
>>144217005
Did you buy into the AJATT hype and expect to be fluent by now?
>>144217118
I see you just don't know what 'projection' means. You should learn English before you learn Japanese desu.
>>144217163
How would learning English help you watch anime?
>>144217132
I just expect to be able to fully understand the basic foundation of 日本語文法 by now.
>talking to Japanese people on LINE to get gud at Japanese
>Jap guy adds me and hits on me and sends me a video of him rubbing his dick through his jeans.
H-help
>>144217310
1. Send a dick pic back
2. Go out with him
3. Break up with him when he doesn't enjoy your favorite anime
>>144217350
hello～YOU～OK～yes～
友達になりたいよ(>_<)
ラインしましょう！
はじめましてです
GAIJINSANTO
TOMODACHININARIT AIDESU!
SITAIDESUNE
163㎝76㎏30saiです。
FUTOTEMASU!
BOKUWA‥CHIBAKEN
GAIJINSAN
HAKUJINSAN
MERUYOROSIKUNE! BOKUWA.
CHINCHINGA.
TUITERU.NIHANNO.
OTOKONOKODESU!
OHANASITOKA.MEIRUO.YOROSiKUNE
SIGEDESU!
よろしくたのむ!
>>144216905
It says on the reading list page that the mega links are updated in the CoR. Don't use the links from the reading list.
>>144217310
Just say 僕のチンチンの方が大きなｗｗｗｗ
I'm running a vocab deck and I most of the time know what the jukugo means but I'm having a really hard time remembering how you say it in Japanese.
I think I've pressed again <1m into 1d the same fucking cards about 7 days in a row now and my review count is increasing daily. This shit just won't sink in.
>>144217627
>>144217627
Read more VNs so you hear the words voiced
Or just add fewer cards a day until it gets easier
>>144217679
thanks but I don't think that will help me when I mostly have a hard time remembering shit like 間 when it has so many different readings like 年間、居間、この間、間に合う etc
The other day someone posted a Kanji grid sorted by Kanji Kentei levels. Does anyone know how to get that?
至人無己，神人無功，聖人無名 desu
>>144217877
Read.
>>144217907
Never mind, found it. Someone on reddit made a modified version that also had that sorting.
That's more like it
What's a ワゴーンセール?
>>144217954
駐車場 I know this means parking spot (stop at + car + spot) but how the fuck do you say it reeeeeee
>>144218158
Memorization? I'm only 3 months in and I instantly recognized that word + the reading. I didn't even do kanji study but know that the kuruma one turns to "sha" and the ba one turns to "jyou". The only one I don't know is the chuu kanji at the beginning, however I know the word as a whole I automatically know it's chuushajyou when I see it.
俺わ日本語王になる男だ
>>144218272
>jyou
reeeeeeeeeee
>>144218358
Heh. I even wrote the chuu right I don't know why I did that
Why are there so many verbs that mean "wake up" in Japanese?
起きる
起こす
覚める
覚ます
目覚める
寝覚め
>>144218513
You might want to learn the difference between transitive and intransitive verbs.
Anyone can rec a good Kanji OCR for android phones?
>>144218546
I do.
Intransitive:
起きる
覚める
目覚める
Transitive:
起こす
覚ます
Admittedly I don't even know:
寝覚める
So now that I passed your little quiz can you tell me why there's so many verbs for the same thing?
>>144218749
Nuance. There's a lot of verbs for the ""same"" thing in English too.
>>144218749
This is why you learn by reading instead of learning everything through anki
>>144218749
Why not?
>>144218749
eat
consume
devour
ingest
munch
chomp
guzzle
chow down
Only if you tell me why there are so many verbs for "eat" in the English language.
>>144218871
delete this
I almost spent two hours reading 1 page of yotsubato for completely understand it.
I'm a retarded anons?
>>144219344
I almost spent two hours reading 1 page of yotsubato and didn't understand it
so no, not more than me at least
>>144219344
>I'm a retarded anons?
no
1 month ago i could barely understand it even with the reading pack, and now i only have to look up about 1-2 words per page
just keep reading
>>144189473
Obviously the Neo Armstrong Cyclone Jet Armstrong Cannon kanji.
>tfw you were shit but now you're good and other people are shit
heh
>>144219499
>it's been so long you can't even remember when you weren't good but then you try listening to something difficult and realize you're still shit
Just finished 神様の御用人１. Fantastic light read, I definitely recommend it to anyone who has even a slight interest in Japan's gods. Or just comfy SoL stuff.
