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>People will defend this
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>>144140545
>no hellish tools

JUST
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>>144140545
>People will befriend this
fix'd
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Homura looks different.
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>>144140545
She can defend herself. Nanoha is a strong, independant woman that don't need no man
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How do we fix Force, gentlemen?

Would you forgive it if Huckebeins died and Thoma passed away, leaving Lily to Isis as a legacy? The girly Nanoha balance would be restored.
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>>144146935
>caro
>boobs
Since when
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>>144147000
>How do we fix Force, gentlemen?
They already did, cancelling it.
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>>144140545
>defend nanoha.

If anything she would be one defending me.
Also, I wish I could train under her.
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>>144147414
I wish I was Nanoha and had Fate.
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>>144147453
I wish I was Vivio and had Nanoha and Fate.
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Do they still use cartridges? I haven't been following very closely.
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>>144147033
>>144147075
Hmm, actually even their barrier jacket looks about the best of all things designed for Force (which shows how great idea those stupid gunblades were).
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>>144147560
>Rip ideas from final fantasy
>Uh oh, these were terrible ideas

I'm more interested to learn who on their team thought that would be a good idea.
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>>144143930
Homura does mean flame, though, so...
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http://may.2chan.net/b/res/420263697.htm
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>>144147000
Get rid of the new cast
Disregard the edge
Introduce a bunch of lolis
Make a lighthearted sports manga instead
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WHEN WILL THEY STOP THAT CHILD MOLESTER?
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>>144148159
Who are you going to call, the police?
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Is there any ugly woman in the Nanohaverse
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>>144148250
If you can't even bring your problem to the cops, trust the holy church!
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>>144148337
Maybe Quattro?

idk, sell me on Quattro /a/.
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Hmm, I think I'm starting to have a thing for these costume swap pictures.
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>>144148564
Quatro looks pretty good when she gets rid of her camouflage braids.
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>>144148564
She was part of one of the hottest moments in Nanoha
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>>144148477
They'll take the weight off your chest.
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>>144148337
They start showing signs of age eventually. Maybe around 75.
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>>144148924
Where is that from?
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>>144148779
Consider yourself in good hands there.
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>>144148779
>They'll take the weight off your chest.
With their hands full of support.
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>>144148993
StrikerS supplementary manga (recommended reading).
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>>144148924
That is the legendary admiral pictured for a single frame, right? Sitting alongside two bearded dudes.
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>>144149157
Not sure, I think she still headed the recruit school when Teana and Subaru enlisted. Less old also, I think.
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>>144149157
Nah, that's fern. manga-only character and instructor at the academy.

>>144149796
yeah, that one.


I don't recall ever seeing see direct interaction with the admiral, but signum mentions that the wolkies did an escort job for the admirals. Just in case anyone ever doubted hayate's political influence.
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Is Caro really considered straight?
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>>144151348
She's still young and confused, maybe her tribe had a weird heterosexual culture and she thought it was the only way to be, but when she got to Mid Childa she slowly learned about the wonders of the purest form of love.
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>>144151348
Token straight, I would say. She likes Erio, that's very apparent.
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>>144148924
I legitimately thought this was from a rape doujin until I saw the old lady face.
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>>144151348
She simply noticed something very important

The ass was fat.
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>>144151669
It's Teass, therefore it is perfect. Face it anon, your taste probably sucks!
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>>144151511
That would explain why Erio grabbing her tits meant that she was married.
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>>144148720
Aiming right at the crotch. Nanoha truly is ruthless.
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>>144151844
She targets the ultraviolence towards the only available male.
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>>144151348
She wants the best boy Erio.

That is supreme taste.
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>>144140545
>Not posting Hellish Tools
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>Nanoha will defend this
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>>144152222
only after tearing it down
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Will Tio ever transform into a loli catgirl so she can participate in the harem?
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>>144151950
Right with this.
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>>144152851
Signum is straight? News to me.
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>>144152895
It's the Harry girl from Vivid (right on the pic).
Her being straight is a bit "shocku" too, though. Her surname is "Tribeca", FFS.
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>>144140545
Defend what?
That girl is an army in a little girl body. She would befriend me and whoever she needs to be defended from in the blink of an eye.
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>>144153197
>Her being straight is a bit "shocku" too, though.
Any female being straight in Nanoha is shocking really.
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One last time:
Would anyone read a nanoha quest if I started one in /qst/?
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>>144153197
Only so many girls to go around.

she could be bi.
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>>144153243
>Army
>Not Gundam
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>>144153545
Sorry, not me. Barely enough time to mess around in here.
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>>144153545
Will we play a girl and will we have a love interest (or several)? Otherwise I'm just not interested.
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>>144153704
She can be both.
A gundam army in the body of a ninja loli sounds good.
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>>144153928
Okay, sorry to hear that. Thanks for responding.

>>144154109
Yes and maybe. My only questions would probably revolve around age range and adoptive family.
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>I will never again feel the same way about Nanoha as I did the year in high school I marathoned all of S1, A's and StrikerS within the span of a week
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>>144154308
I'm interested if we're a girl and we get at least one love interest. I'm that kind of shipperfag that participated in MGNQ just for Chiaki/Midori.

Also if it has a decent focus on the setting because the setting is one of my favorite parts about Nanoha, but I assume you'd do that already considering it's a quest.
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>>144148720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBArXz3cWos
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>>144154432
Love interests are a 'maybe' because it depends on what the players would like, but I could see it happening.
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>>144152400
/f/ pls
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>>144140545
>you will never fight one glorious final battle with the white devil herself.
Why live?
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>>144154569
I was already in love with the series, but this moment solidified Nanoha as one of my favourite franchises of all time.
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>>144140545
The Wolkies were ready to kill and Nanoha was like NINE. If it wasn't Nanoha it would have been a not as cute TSAB officer.
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>>144147000

They basically cancelled it, so it's fixed

>>144153704

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BpOpb7d-so
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>lurk youtube
>fing 9 years old AMVs
Holy shit. Time flies.
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>>144154326
Take off StrikerS and I know what you mean.
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>>144147366
She's an oppai loli at heart.
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How long until Nanoha just blows up stars to solve a problem?
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>>144140545
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>>144147366
Since StrikerS fanart of a more mature Caro, Erio, and Lulu.
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>>144156610
Those doujins really uprated the Angels -- all that planet-buster level device just for Sachiel, I ask you.
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What does it take to get your own magic device that calls you respectful names.
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>>144156790
I would have accepted this reality over FOREVER LOLI ERIO IS STEALING MY GROWTHread: VIRGINITY Caro.
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The franchise is so strange now. What the hell.
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>>144163666
It's dead, Nanoha.
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>>144159926
Well, you need magic first.
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>>144156790
Hmmm, that is pretty nice and Lulu and Erio kind of panned out like that.

Loli Caro was cute too though, her BJ/clothes design I really like. Cape & Hat always!
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>>144156790
I keep seeing F/SN Rider in here
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>>144156790
Caro's bodice resembles Nanoha here, but in reality it should be based on Fate's theme, since they are lightnings and their devices were made to have matching look with Fate.
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>>144147503
>>>/lgbt/
Haram.
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>>144147503
I wish I was Einhart, and had Vivio, and NanoFate as my mothers in law.
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>>144169956
Yeah, Einhart is Selfinsert Prime.
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>>144169956
And then you'd slowly be corrupted by the household as an outsider.
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>>144170168
I'm always surprised that more people don't seem to feel that way considering she's basically a genderbent Klaus. I assumed that she was specifically meant to be an obvious self-insert since people had already been doing the same with Nanoha and Fate for years. It even fits perfectly with how all the official art of her shows her with an expression that looks like she's so embarrassed that she's about to cry.
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>>144171116
Well, she is a bit more fancy in looks/behaviour than Vivio, so despite Vivio having an exotic and awesome background too, selfinserting as Vivio to have green sempai waifu works too.
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You know these modern smartphones with voice commands? Probably can use soundclips from series' devices to approximate the feel.
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>>144174367
Explosion!
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>>144174367
>modern smartphones with voice commands
But only if you can set them to play a soundclip on your command.

>Tell it to do something via voice command
>"Yes sir" plays, then it does the thing you tell it to do
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>>144174490
>things we will never hear again
FLIER FIN
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>>144159980
>ERIO IS STEALING MY GROWTH
It's kind of ridiculous
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>>144176379
That was quick. We don't even know what she looks like upfront.
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>>144176598
In a few years, this image will be a mystery to the newbs (after it's revealed how the character looks frontally and what eyes color she has).
Just who was that hybrid supposed to be?
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>>144176901
>In a few years
Assuming anyone still cares for this franchise after that.
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>>144176311
Especially since nobody wants to mention the blue eyes white dragon that she's soulbonded with. That nigga is probably sapping her soul and that's why she still looks like she's 9 at 14 or 15 or whatever the hell age she's supposed to be.
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>>144178097
A thousand years from now, religious scholars will research early texts on the Magical Girl movement and be confounded by that piece of fanart.
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Toma when?
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>>144174556
>immediately starts crying over Bardiche
It doesn't sound like a good idea to me
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>>144179703
I do miss bardiche
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>>144180847
His voice actor seriously must have died. He was already older. There's no other explanation.
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>>144181141
I hope it's just that he retired from voice acting.
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>>144176901
I sure hope it was Nanoha all along.
>learned de-aging from watching Vivio
>shoved RH in a cat
>couldn't resist testing new battle tech herself after her duel with Einhart
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>>144184554
>voiced by Inori
Son I have some news for you
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>>144184668
Who?

...fug
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>>144184668
Let him dream while he can anon, sometimes dreams are better than reality.
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>>144184554
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>>144184738
King Records's new girl they're pushing

However this might mean the Nanoha franchise will survive on into the future albeit with different characters so I'll wait and see how Vivid Strike is before I loop the ol' rope thirteen times and toss it over a rafter
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>>144184894
>I loop the ol' rope thirteen times and toss it over a rafter

For your sake, I hope it's good. D-Don't do it, senpai.
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>>144184894
>Nanoha franchise
>without Nanoha
Good joke, better just kill it as whole and be done with it.
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>>144184894
I know the feeling. I'm probably gonna have to watch the first episode with a gun in my mouth in case it turns out to be idolshit.
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>>144184894
>>144185353
Don't be silly anons, it's just show and you never know when it comes back even if it went under.
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>>144190804
>meg creeping on her daughter's friend
I guess she learned that from nanoha
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>>144176311
>Eventually Erio will be tall enough to pick Caro up with one hand.
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>>144190804
>>144192039
Wow that is surprising ship.
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>>144192672
He's already pretty much tall enough to to that in Force.
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I didn't read the VA credits

Are they seriously phasing out Nanoha? Is she no where in the cast?
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>>144192976
She's not listed which is pretty big, and she's not singing the ED theme

I'd be flabbergasted if she didn't at least cameo but time will tell.
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>>144193093
It really makes me worry.

If the entire series is getting rebooted, fine. But this is ViviD, so if anything that might mean a minimum 12+ year timeskip.
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>>144176311
>>144183605

you realize childbirth would probably destroy her.
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>>144192976
Her VA is Ded. Committed sudoku. Fucking attention whore.
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>>144193223
Yukarin would never do that, she has fans that love her.
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>>144193179
I guess Erio will be a widower then.
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>>144193140
Vivid Strikers to be specific

My god that name

Anyways apparently there's another cour of Nanoha Vivid getting made next year-ish. Haha and we'll get Movie 3rd before the heat death of the universe.

>>144193179
MAGIC
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>>144193280
Don't even joke about that.
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>>144193223
She's in a show airing this season.
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>>144184758
How should Nanoha interpret that in any other way than Fate being a pedophile?
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>>144193477
She doesn't want a kid's body, she wants Nanoha's kid body.

Huge difference.
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>>144185353
>in case it turns out to be idolshit
Oh my god, I was so worried about everything else I didn't even considered the worst case scenario possible
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>>144185353
Oh fuck I didn't even consider this

I DIDN'T EVEN CONSIDER IT BUT IT SEEMS SO FUCKING LIKELY NOW

"Hey guys ViviD is just idolshit with tournaments thrown in, let's just remove the tournaments
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>>144193373
>Yukarin playing moms, dead women and old hags
>she sounds exactly the same and can probably still voice a loli

Why is this industry so cruel to older women
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>>144193572
>She doesn't want a kid's body
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>>144193764
What? She's still 19.
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>>144193827
17*
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>>144193572
No it isn't a huge difference
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>>144193093
Nana and Yukarin not singing the OP and ED really worries me, what are they even thinking?
It's like they don't want money or to please the fans anymore.

Do they want to kill the franchise for good giving everyone who ever liked the franchise a big "fuck you" in a 13 episode series form?
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>>144193787
Does Einhart have parents? do they know the ammount of skinship and skimpy clothing she regularly gets from her friends mothers?
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>>144194008
You don't understand
It's like when Anon likes 2D lolis
But has no attraction to real ones
Because they're not the same.
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>>144194101
You jumped a dimension worth of difference there
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>>144194074
>Does Einhart have parents?

I was under the impression that she didn't.
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>>144194016
They probably being saved for S2 of Vivid.
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>>144194175
But that's exactly the point!
Fate is not a pedophile! She's a Nanohaphile! No body but Nanoha's child body will do it for her!
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Is Strike airing alongside S2? What's the deal with that?

Also this winter is supposed to be Dog Days S4, but that seems to be getting less likely.
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>>144194016
>It's like they don't want money
Gotta get new blood selling CDs, no-one's around forever. Yeah it's pretty jarring to have that kind of a change after all these years but it was going to happen eventually.

I wonder if Yukarin leaving King Records either caused or was caused by her not doing the ED for Vivid Strike?
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>>144194283
Strike fall 2016, Vivid 2 2017, Dog Days 4 ???, Movie 3 never

Am I forgetting anything?
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>>144194285
This is exactly why I fear the worst

What's the best way to get selling CDs? Either reboot or make everyone else irrelevant.
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>>144194261
Isn't Nanoha's child body still a child's body
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>>144194074
>Does Einhart have parents?
That's what I want to know.
I guess here suspicious living alone might be one of the few chances for actual drama in Vivid.

Maybe we learn something if that new girl turns out to be a relative.

>>144176379
>>144178541
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>>144194261
More importantly, she wanted to do it with kid Nanoha when she was a kid of the same age herself.
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>>144194356
But it's Nanoha's so it's special.
Do you not have any love in your life, man?!

>>144194427
Exactly. Not pedophilic in the very least.
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>>144194345
Nanoha wasn't terribly relevant in Vivio and Some Little Girls Run Around and Waste Time and Look Cute for Twelve Whole Episodes: The Anime

On the other hand she still got the ED theme.
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>>144194445
>Exactly. Not pedophilic in the very least.
Nanoha, on the other hand, totally is.
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>>144194341
Yes, 7arcs return to former glory: Never.
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>>144194446
Reminds me that NanoFate weren't shown in the audience in the tournament. Some episodes were adapted so lazily it hurts. Some were good, showing well made extensions (episode 2 for example).
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>>144194446
Yes, but they could make her LESS relevant. Or worse: Just remove the entire cast except the little girl characters
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>>144194491
Oh come on. Everybody would fuck child Fate.
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>>144194493
Have they ever really had glory? Nanoha and Dog Days are their two things. Other than that they barely do anything.
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>>144194445
I give up

>>144194427
No I'm preety sure she did not mean that
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>>144194543
Not me, she is for careful headpats at most.
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>>144194596
But you never see Fate attracted to any other children, do you.
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>>144194446
I don't think you really get the problem here: Vivid Strikers needs to move AWAY from the formula that made Vivid boring, not make it worse.

I honestly hope for just a straight, vanilla Magical Girl show at this point. It would be easy, and would take zero effort, but I rather have that than pretend-idolshit.
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>>144194526
>Or worse: Just remove the entire cast except the little girl characters
Actually I'd be okay with that if they actually did something with the little girl characters
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>>144194700
>I honestly hope for just a straight, vanilla Magical Girl show at this point
Why not focus on what makes Nanoha cool? Magical girl + military drama.
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>>144194779
Can't have military drama when the main threat to your cast is the tournament monster.
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>>144194840
I agree though, no more tournaments.
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Please tell me that Japan's reaction to this isn't as pessimistic as ours is.

I want to believe that someone still enjoys things.
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>>144194933
I'm vaguely optimistic because it's something other than just Vivid S2. But we just gotta wait and see what this Vivid Strike is and if it's okay or not.

And hey, the franchise isn't dead. That's something.

Now excuse me while I go listen to Innocent Starter and Little Wish again.
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>>144140545
nope
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>>144194933
>2016
>enjoying things
Even the sweet release of death would be sour at this point
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>>144195026
I am wary of anything anime original, honestly. Are my fears unfounded?

I DID like the first season of Dog Days.
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>>144194285
Yeah, but Nanoha and Fate themselves are two of the main reasons Nanoha franchise is popular.
Hell, Vivid only survives because it is about the daughter of those two, not because of Einhard great personality or anything of the like.

In this case, it seems a better move to make a whole new franchise than using the already existent one people love for different reasons.
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You know it's sad because it feels like I'm the only one that just likes Vivio and ViviD.

I don't like Einhart too much, but she's okay when she's with Vivio.
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>>144195460
Fuck Einhart
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>>144195584
Yes sir
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>>144195460
I like particularly Einhart, but the huge problem (it's a sin, actually) is that Vivid doesn't use them for anything grand due to its premise.

I hope this happens: >>144142842
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>>144195584
Gladly
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>>144195584
Wait, is that a dumbbell in the bottom left
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>>144195661
*right
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>>144195661
It's for Teo (pink color), so that it can lift with Einhart.
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>>144195738
It's bigger than Teo is
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>>144195760
Einhart's are too, if I recall clearly.
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>>144195825
Lyrical Magical-HOLY SHIT

Does she not use them? She's still got stringbean arms.
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>>144195825
I can't wait until my niece turns 9 so I can get her on those 1000lb reps
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>>144140545
>well-mannered and kind, with a dark side
Why are these always the worst girls?
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>>144195825
>punching her own reflection
That's like profound, man

Her early character summed up in one gesture
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>>144196057
>well-mannered and kind, with a dark side
That doesn't describe Nanoha at all, do you know what you are talking about?
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>>144196057
>Nanoha
>Worst girl
End yourself.
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>>144196076
I know, so deep.

Would be better if it came out as self-loathing instead of just being sad all the time.
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>>144196069
The series already benched Nanoha, I guess benching Vivio is the next step which leads to Vivid Strike
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>>144196213
I can't read the poster, is Vivio in the cast?
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>>144196230
Yes
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-07/magical-girl-lyrical-nanoha-creator-launches-vivid-strike-tv-anime-series-in-october/.104075
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>>144196230
Yeah, it listed Vivio, Ein, Rio, Corona, Nove etc

But no mention of Nanoha or Fate
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>>144195969
Noooo! You have to wait till she is 12.
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>>144196298
>Greatest battle of magical girls

Ahha ha.

hah.

Oh, that was meant to be serious
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>>144196454
You know how those tie-in blurbs in mangas are.
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>>144196201
Her angst was kinda justified since she had no idea Vivio is a clone, Claus never fikki fikki Olive and there was a lot of suspicious males around her. For 12yo this cross might be a little too heavy.
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>>144196454
Corona's battle was cool as fuck
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>>144195026
I cry out of nostalgia every time I listen to Innocent Starter.
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>>144196586
That's because Corona's battle was the only one there that had any real emotional weight. Corona was essentially in Teana's position of being the "average one" in the sea of exceptionals.
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>>144196705
But instead of being whiny about it she ravaged one of the strongest characters in her age group
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So Nanoha's dad might be retired and coaching a youth soccer team at this point.

Kyouya might be running the cafe

What about Miyuki, busy being a ninja?
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>>144196882
Miyuki is busy having sick Ninja adventures while Nanoha is cheering for her mutant clone child.
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>>144196569
Not necessarily, no real evidence that Vivio was even related to Olivie except they both had special snowflake eyes.

And how many of those would have happened within the last thousand years or so?
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>>144197075
>except they both had special snowflake eyes.
And she fought the same or something
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>>144196882
Wasn't Kyouya living in Germany?
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>>144196882
>no Vivid chapter in which Vivio goes to her grandma house with Einhard
I just noticed that this is something we should have seen long ago.
Vivio needs to meet her grandma and grandpa.
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>>144197341
"Congratulations, who's the father?"
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>>144197341
It's kind of sad that a lot of doujinshi and heaven forbid, even some fanfic have better writing and ideas than the main series.
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>>144197377
Ferret Changeling, of course!
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>>144197639
Which makes me wonder what Tsuzuki decides what to use and what not to use. Because it seems rather arbitrary what he decides what should or shouldn't be used for Nanoha.
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>>144197852
What I'd give to see the aftermath of the A's christmas explanation
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>>144184758
>Adult Fate and child Nanoha
FUck ye-
>Futa

What the fuck.
Fucking ruined.
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>>144197377
Fate-chan of course.
Or she could just say she is the abandoned kid of a military incident that she ended up adopting.

Part of the fun about the situation is Nanoha explaining Vivio to her parents and Vivio making it more complicate by saying she has two mamas.
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>>144198095
Why does Nanoha wear her pigtails to bed? This bothers me.
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>>144198121
She's a little girl
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>>144198121
She looks cute.
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>>144198121
They joke about that in the movie commentary.
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>>144198709
Oh, did somebody finally time those subs?
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>>144197377
It's likely they knew for a long time about Nanoha and Fate's relationship, I can't imagine Fate's sleepovers at the Takamachi's when they were young being too quiet. And seeing how they let their 9 year old daughter join some alien military force like it was nothing, and then let her leave to live in another planet at what, the age of 15? I would imagine their daughter adopting a child with another women at the age of 19 wouldn't be something too big for them.

Still there is a lot potential for comedy based on this scenario.
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If a magical genie appeared in front of me and gave me one wish, I'd wish I was a cute Vivid.
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>>144199127
>Strippaiah Chevelle left out
Inconceivable.
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>>144199468
what happens if you undo the belt?
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What in the fuck is Vivid Strike?
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>>144200931
>he doesn't know yet
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Why do they hate Nanoha so much? Why can't she get off the bench?
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>>144201037
Yukarin is dead
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>>144201017
Do you think they still don't realize what people want out of a Nanoha anime or are they just doing this out of spite? Why can't they just let it die?
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>>144201098

I just want that 3rd movie already. I want to see how they ended up in Midchilda
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>>144201017
I'll strike her vivid
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>>144201017
Okuda not being the character designer bothers me a lot.
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>>144201177
I still want to see a big finale action movie where Nanoha and Fate get married at the end but we're never getting what we want.
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>>144201037
but anon

lolis

magic fighting lolis

well not 'fighting' but pretend fighting

>>144201098
I'm genuinely confused what the end-game is. ViviD didn't do particularly well, so doubling down on two different versions of ViviD seems like a strange move at best.
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>>144201330
>we're never getting what we want

rip dog days s4
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>>144201382
>ViviD didn't do particularly well
I don't think it was very popular, but the strange thing is that it never had a chance to not do particularly well: they never even put it on sale.

I can't even think of another case where they just didn't put BDs on sale at all. It's bizarre as shit
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>>144201472
>rip dog days s4
Good riddance
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>>144201382
Is the manga still somehow going?
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>>144201554
>just didn't put BDs on sale at all
Yet

I assume. Because you're right, if they never do, it'd be crazy. Gotta get those otakubux

But they did sell OP/ED singles, Nana Mizuki still generates pretty crazy sales numbers for CDs so there's that. Also merchandise?
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>>144201554
It makes me wonder if Tsuzuki himself doesn't have a lot of faith in it. Which is a sad thing to think, all things considered.

>>144201603
I think so, but it's been paused and resumed so many times I've lost count.
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