Biggest time-skip troll I have ever seen.
Fuck this author, he really managed to trick me until the very last page.
And in the fucking last page, you can see the face of the damn person reflected in the damn manga at that very scene.
Must admit, this was genius.
We need more Re:Zero and Takagi-san threads on /a/.
>>144139532
Re:Zero is already 24/7 just like JoJo.
We need more Takagi-san andTerra Formarsthreads.
>>144139421
This fucking chapter.
I never felt so trolled by a twist since the Arrancar Saga finale in Bleach.
Holy shit, like, I'm kinda between choking the author to death and hugging him at the same time right now.
Also, Chapter 32 is out, and jsut went back to the past out of nowhere too.
Talk about a Troll Author (you all feel free to add him on TVTropes in this very category, this pretty much confirms it)
>>144139421
what happened now? I vaguely remember some ntr fags being butthurt a few days ago. Is this the same thing?
Mommy Takagi-san is pretty damn hot.
>see the face of the damn person reflected
What?
>>144140625
She was always hot, even before having a kid
>>144140716
Most likely, OP is referring to the troll author talked in the phrase above that one.
>>144140770
She's cute as a kid, but too loli for me. Her older self is a miracle of the universe.
His tumblr has some good stuff
http://udon0531.tumblr.com/
>>144141438
My heart boner cannot possibly handle this Miki.
This guy is both a good artist and a decent writer. This chapter made me kinda sad that I'll never start a family.
>>144141612
Now that I give it a second look, Miki's eyes are green, not blue. She has the ahoge and everything.
>>144139904
Basically the author spent the whole chapter building up that she never married Nishikata
>She looks at her school album and sees Nishikata
>"I wonder what's he's doing now"
>Daughter looking at photo album
>"Is that daddy?"
>"If only"
>Husband comes home and you don't see his face
>"Were you crying?"
>"No, just tired"
Then she give the smuggest look ever in OP's picture and you see Nishikata's name on the wall. Her kid's "Is that daddy?" when you don't have NTR on the brain is because there was a knock on the door from a delivery man
>>144141823
At some point I got the vibe she was pretending Nishikata died.
Also, this basically means the good end is all but confirmed.
>>144141823
This chapter made me feel like Nishikata himself, in a way.
If that was the plan, kudos for the author. I felt legitimately emotionally trolled.
>>144139421
>And in the fucking last page, you can see the face of the damn person reflected in the damn manga at that very scene.
Agreed, the last page feels like the author himself is giving us that ultimate masterful smug face like "hey readers, I teased you like a bitch, and now I'm licking the tears you let fall in this page. fuck you! ahaha.wav"
This guy REALLY knows what he is doing with this manga, that much I'm pretty sure of. This was one direct trolling to the fans faces.
It's a shame they didn't translate the line in the end, it made the chapter 100% more juicy trollish
>>144142218
is there a main thread for the Karakai TLs?
>>144142218
>How did it feel to be teased?
Arousing
Is there any other manga with masterful trolling like this? I really liked that shit.
Also, any manga similar to Karakai in general? (Already reading Tomo-chan, which was reccomended by my friends, but it's not really similar to it)
>>144142994
There's Henjyo (a pervy Karakai imo), but I only know that one
I'm also searching for similar manga.
>>144142994
>>144140863
Are there any more mangos about this kind of thing? Ive read everything so far from this and Tonari no seki-kun and am looking for similar stuff to scratch the itch.
>>144143325
Alright you win. Loli Takagi-san is too a miracle of the universe. Just don't stop growing.
>>144143483
>>144139421
It was, but it sure upset me before the ending.
I didn't like being teased.
>>144139421
>typesetting left out "How does it feel to be teased?" at the side of the final panel
MEH
>>144143325
>>144143550
imnotalolicon imnotalolicon imnotalolicon imnotalolicon imnotalolicon imnotalolicon imnotalolicon imnotalolicon imnotalolicon imnotalolicon imnotalolicon imnotalolicon
must stick with adult Takagi, must stick wit adult Takagi
>Takagi-san threads everyday
RIP once a month comfy threads, nice nowing you.
>>144143463
If you want girl teasing a guy, try Henjyo. If you want to scream at a computer screen for the characters to just fuck already, try Kaguya Wants to be Confessed To.
>>144142994
I don't usually see it in manga, more in video games where it's easier to betray your expectations.
>>144143641
I just want to say, Henjo kind of sucks.
But if you can enjoy it, feel free.
>>144143704
I don't like it either, just couldn't think of any other teasing manga off the top of my head.
>>144143704
I found it to be pretty good (it starts meh and forced, but it gets better and better from chapter 8 or so).
>>144143895
Funny, my opinion is in the reverse.
My main issue is I completely can't understand why the main two have such a relationship at all.
Plus the main guy isn't likable at all.
>>144143630
>>144139421
>no smug teasing wife
fuck this gay earth
>>144143932
I must admit the childhood friend introduction kinda ruined part of the experience for me, but, like, as far as we got (chapter 28), the author developed pretty nicely the relationship between the main characters imo
The age difference didn't matter too much for me, so I guess that's that too.
>>144143641
If you want a girl blueballing a guy into utter despairing betadom, try Mysterious Girlfriend X.
>>144143633
They've been NTR shitposting wars for months now. The only difference was that they weren't daily.
>>144143938
She can't keep getting away with this.
>>144144058
Or was it his cousin, I don't quite remember (reading too many manga right now).
>>144144142
>>144144142
Oh I know, I'll just miss the smaller threads with other anons wondering how long this manga has left. Now it's all grown up and has it's own daily thread ;_;
>>144144077
>try Mysterious Girlfriend X
No. Don't recommend that to anyone, not even as a joke. No one should have to suffer through that ending.
>>144144155
I want Nishikata to surprise kiss her so badly (but then, again, she will probably provoke him faking tears or something, she is kinda professional with the teasing thing),
>>144144318
Nothing Happens: The Series, eh?
>>144144344
Status Quo: The Series
with the later chapters it got really out of hands, things happening in one instantly forgotten and never mentioned again in the following.
>>144144451
I really wish I could meet somebody who liked the entirety of Mysterious Girlfriend X just so I could explain in detail why their opinion was incorrect, but I know that'll never happen because special needs children aren't allowed to talk to strangers.
>>144144451
>>144144615
So, Ranma Nibun no Ichi ending all over again?
>>144139532
>Re: Zero
fuck no
Why is this girls face 50% forehead?
>>144144886
It gives her an even bigger smug face for some reason.
How do we know this timeskip is canon?
>>144144657
Not only the ending, the story is about 100 chapters long and nothing at all happened after the 30°.
It wasn't even slow, slow implies a constant forward momentum, the story basically got resetted to starting point with the start of each chapter.
Anyone have that wall of Takagi-san smug faces? For scientific purposes.
>>144144965
We don't, the author is an absolute troll.
>>144144965
Why wouldn't it be canon?
>>144144965
Why wouldn't it be? The whole manga goes back and forth between various points before, during and after the summer vacation, so its not like timeskips are uncharacteristic of it.
>>144145056
>>144145082
>>144145148
Because that "how did it feel to be teased" line could very well be a reference to the ending, not the whole manga.
The ending was a tease, not real.
>>144145395
I think you're reading too much into it, but whatever, we just don't know.
>>144144318
>>144144344
>>144144451
>>144144615
>>144145029
So basically, it's pretty decent up to the 30th chapter but after that it goes to shit?
I take it that they don't even fuck either? (I ask because I only watched the first episode of the anime.)
>>144145395
Nah, the magazine wrote that. That's the reason the regular translator left it out.
>>144142994
That one manga with multiple plot lines and one of them is a teacher and her male student.
>>144144318
I'm guessing the manga doesn't end the same as the anime then? I watched the show and enjoyed it, ending seemed good enough to me.
>>144145678
Too bad that got licensed and they removed all /ss/ from it. That teacher was so thirsty it was great.
>>144145029
Is the anime any better?
>>144139421
I was so angry. For a moment I thought that the poor guy was finally free of that bitch. But no, apparently he's stuck with her until he finally works up the nerve to off himself.
>>144145810
>>144139421
Why is this loli so smug
>>144145678
14-sai was great. I miss it
>>144144886
>Why is this girls face 50% forehead?
Best for forehead kissu.
>>144145874
Because she's a fucking smug whore bitch cunt, fuck her smug bitch.
I just marathoned this shit after I read OP's post and didn't read further.
Mother fucker dude, my heart felt like stone until that last page, fucking hell. I knew there was going to be a twist and I STILL fell for it.
>They don't fuck as kids
dropped
>>144139421
>yfw he finally pays back 10 years worth of teasingin bed]/spoiler]
Does anyone have the updated version of
>>144142218 with the +120 replies?
>>144146249
>>144145567
I might be wrong, but I think they don't even kiss
The guy who writes it is SUPER DUPER INSANELY conservative and thinks that sex is something that happens through a bedsheet with the lights off
>>144146645
>but I think they don't even kiss.
>The guy who writes it is SUPER DUPER INSANELY conservative and thinks that sex is something that happens through a bedsheet with the lights off.
WHAT?!!
Why even make the fucking thing in the first place if you're not planning on having them kiss, let alone fuck?
Are there any Doujins at least?
>>144141823
>ntrfags got destroyed
>NTRfags BTFO
Feels good
>>144145669
A shitty reason if you ask me, that line made the delivery 200% times better.
>>144144615
If you want to, I can pretend to like it for you so you can just get it out of your system.
>>144143463
>Are there any more mangos about this kind of thing?
Sundome by Kazuto Okada.Prepare your anus
>>144146791
>>144146791
This is like galatic level cucking.
>>144146791
The only reason I can come up with is that he got replaced by a doppelganger at about episode 36.
Up until that chapter they the two were steadily growing more intimate with each other, petting, touching, staying close, having dirty dreams about one another etc. etc.
After that, the nothingness. Any sort of physical intimacy forbidden, not a single mention of anything before that (the infamous ear licking part), no progress of any sort and the guy refusing himself to kiss by the end.
Meanwhile his best friend was already tapping glasses-kun.
>>144146173
Someone has to make a doujin of that.
>>144147217
I see, and I quite enjoyed the first episode of the anime.
>>144143325
>>144143550
Oh God she's perfect. How can she be so perfect?
>>144147255>who ever cums first looses
What if Yabuki acquired this power?
Will we get quantum level teasing?
>>144147255
http://exhentai.org/s/e16dadaffb/884711-70Not really,but I imagine it'd be like this.
>>144147697
I need a name so I can search in another site that don't obligates me to make an account, please.
>>144148615
I made a fake email account.
>>144148615
Fuckbuddy Collection.
>>144148615
>>144148666
Start on page 70 for the story.
>hail satan
>>144139421
Huh. For once, Hollywood did a neat job adapting manga.
I fucking hate translator. If I see him translating again. I'll fucking find him and beat the shit out of him.
I just started reading this series and all of you faggots got me worried about some NTR stuff that didn't even happen. I feel teased.
>>144149256
I'm fucking crying. BRAH-VOE.
Chapter 31 sucked.
Go on with the story proper, I don't care about the eternal holy war between NTRfags and AntiNTRfags.
>>144146494
Great, thanks
>>144149484
Narrative-wise it was perfectly executed (the best troll chapter I found out there so far at least).
But yeah, storyline-wise, it came out of nowhere (and the chapter just after just go back into the past, so what was the point, this should have been like, the last chapter, if anything).
>>144149256
I don't get it
>>144149756
The movie is gone girl. I don't think it really fits. The wife there is just a crazy bitch.
>>144140863
you sure?
>>144149745
>came out of nowhere
Honestly I was expecting a "it was all a dream" final panel, with MC waking up.
I think I'm literally in love with this girl.
Why must all the bestest girls be taken?
>>144147217
As your filename says, Well, fuck.
>>144150325
This girl reminds me of a childhood friend of mine which I treated poorly, and then only much later started to get feelings for.
Well, nowadays she lost contact with me and married some months ago. Karakai is like my little gem that maintain me teased and a little happier inside right now.
Isn't the 2D world wonderful, to an extent?
>>144149484
>Go on with the story proper, I don't care about the eternal holy war between NTRfags and AntiNTRfags
>unironically believing this exists outside of a few selected /a/ threads
>>144150325
Let me help you with that.
>>144150672
to be fair, after Boku Dake ga Inai Machi, nobody knows anymore when shit could hit the fan like that.
>>144150744
>>144150672
Ok then please tell me what the point of showing a timeskip where they are married is when everything just goes back to business as usual.
If anything it just gets rid of some of the tension.
>>144149756
It's how she played him all the way to the end. The editing is still pretty funny though.
>>144150901
To tease the readers. It doesn't have to be any deeper than that. It was a chapter built around breaking the 4th wall.
>>144150745
Wasn't here when the anime aired, could you greentext it?
>>144150901
the whole point was to tease the readers and troll them just like they were the protagonist himself (it was literally written like that at the botton end of the page).
because the author wanna give us a heart attack, I guess, which was not really nice.
>>144151062
>It was a chapter built around breaking the 4th wall.
Sacrificing the current plot for that leaves me feeling a bit resentful. It seemed so out of place.
See? This is what happens when you omit the magazine text. Fuck the translator responsible for this shit. Fuck him. I hope he doesn't translate this manga again.
>>144151084
Do yourself a favor and read the manga. Besides having a fairly predictable mystery, the execution and great use of character development and storytelling outshines most of its issues.
You are not going to regret it.
>>144151167
There's no sacrifice, what are you talking about?
The following chapter is the same as usual, in fact things are progressing.
>>144149369
Welcome to the bullying ride, anon. It's going to be great.
I didn't feel teased at all with this chapter.
Maybe I'm dense as fuck.
Maybe I trust Takagi ending up with Nishikata 100%.
>>144139421
This chapter was 10/10
It captured the essence of the manga so hard it even subtly broke the fourth wall.
>>144151189
Oh, I mean the happening. I already picked up the manga after seeing episode 1.
>>144152398
>subtly
>>144152692
>>144151169
Do you have to start this shit again? One wasted thread yesterday wasn't enough?
>>144152383
it wasn't to tease you, it was for the ntr-fags
>>144152733
Fuck off, translator.
>>144152733
Let him at it, he's pissing into the wind.
>>144139610
Ya but jojo aint shit like re zero
>>144144615
I liked the entirety of Nazo no Kanojo X. Also, it was a non-linear, allegorical SoL which was focused on exploring relationship moments, holding true to its stated premise, and not a romance novel depicting a realistic, developing relationship, so your arguments are invalid.
>>144144318
>mfw they never kissed
goddamn i spent 8 years on this shit and nothing eve fucking happened aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>144152944
>it was a non-linear, allegorical SoL which was focused on exploring relationship moments
>>144153001
>>144153048
You two evidently were not reading the manga in the same way that I was. Which is to say you weren't reading what the mangaka was putting down on paper in black ink.
>>144152810
Is this translator talking?
>>144153111
The sweater was hyper lewd though. Fuck, my dick.
>>144153111
>Kissing is out, much less anything beyond that
DROPPED
>>144153409
True. I highly suspect a lot of anons were distracted by dem fat anime tiddies. They are fairly distracting.
>>144153578
I didn't finish the anime. I liked the first episode, but stopped watching anime for a while and never picked it again. One of these days I guess.
>>144152733
It was just one guy shitposting yesterday so unless he's here too the thread's gonna do fine this time.
>>144153794
Fuck ff with your samefagging. Translator.
>>144152944
>which was focused on exploring relationship moments
>>144153111
>You two evidently were not reading the manga in the same way that I was.
I sure did. Remember that part about Tsubaki's going to be her first sexual partner? Or that other part where Tsubaki's touch "changed her senses" and made her have wet dreams about him? Remember how they'd started getting more and more intimate with each others, physically?
Well the author doesn't, or at least completely forgot by about chapter 40 onwards.
>>144153867
Nope, I believe the TL who skipped the "how does it feel to be teased?" line to have done a massive mistake.
>>144145737
They did WHAT?! That was the best part of 14-sai!!
Fucking Americunt publishers...
>>144154104
Exactly. And that pissed me off that I'll be shitposting about this guy forever until he admits that he's wrong and adds that shit back or he stops translating for good. Fucking faggot was even being smug about not adding that shit. Fuck him for ruining that chapter with his translation.
>>144149322
Why, anon? I just wanted you to enjoy the manga...
>>144149745
They needed a grand finale for leaving the magazine they were with since the manga is moving to the main mag. This was perfect for it.
>>144150059
That would be too bullshit and the author would get reamed on twitter for it.
Daily reminder that there's no girl as clever as Takagi irl
>>144154453
There's plenty of nip speaking people reading this. That guy stop translating this does not mean the end of the world.
>>144154501
>irl
Well, there's you're problem.
>>144154501
>irl
Kill yourself.
>>144154453
>>144154519
Oh wait, you're talking about the guys who did the release that's on batoto, not me.
I did the original thread that has 200 replies on that page, and I'm pretty sure I translated that. Was really disappointed they didn't typeset that line in the finished release.
Also they took a whoooole fuckton of liberties with the translation for whatever reason, it didn't read like the same chapter at all.
>>144154471
That explains a lot, thanks for the info anon.
Is the new magazine weekly or monthly?
>>144154416
I dont really get this. Why do people get so mad about the missing magazine text in that particular TL? Are you you so blind that you don't see the "Nishitaka" nameplate on the door? The "How does it feel to be teased" line only adds a little bit of flavor to the trolling by Takagi-san. Her smile and the nameplate next to the door should be plenty for anyone not a speedreader to realize she just took the trolling to a whole new level.
>>144154602
>I did the original thread that has 200 replies on that page
Based anon.
>>144154602
>I did the original thread that has 200 replies on that page, and I'm pretty sure I translated that. Was really disappointed they didn't typeset that line in the finished release.
I know man, me too. At least thanks to your thread I could experience the chapter that way first and the diluted watered down version later.
>>144154471
>They needed a grand finale for leaving the magazine they were with since the manga is moving to the main mag
Why does everyone think this? The last three chapters before this one were all "special" chapters in the main magazine, and the timeskip was the first one as an official series in the main magazine. It was not published in the bonus thing.
>>144154602
Speaking of which, the oneshot by the author, "Matsumoto Eiko is a Normal Girl" is out in Korean now.
Will be live translating here.
>>144154645
>Why do people get so mad about the missing magazine text in that particular TL?
Because it's the punchline.
>Are you you so blind that you don't see the "Nishitaka" nameplate on the door?
Not the punchline.
>Her smile and the nameplate next to the door should be plenty for anyone not a speedreader to realize she just took the trolling to a whole new level.
No one would notice that.
Stop giving the guy exuses for being lazy, anon. He either translate everything or not translate at all.
>>144154645
The nameplate works at making you understand that's actually the Nishikata's household.
Takagi's smug could be, possibly, interpreted as simply her closing the door with her usual happy go lucky face.
But then you read the line and realize that she's actually truly smugging you, the reader, and everything clicks aparts.
It's not really the same without the line, whether it was intentional or not the end result of the chapters is 200% better with it, at least for me.
>>144154625
Monthly. It used to be published in a small extra volume that came with the magazine every two or three months, with occasional chapters in the main magazine where vampire imouto was published. Now it's just officially in the main one since vampire imouto ended.
>>144154736
>Speaking of which, the oneshot by the author, "Matsumoto Eiko is a Normal Girl"
What's it about?
>>144139421
>thinking there is only one nishikata in japan
oh you vanilla faggots are going to feel so bad when the autor ntr the shit outta of this
>>144143325
I could get behind this
>>144154825
NTR shitpost is dead, get in with times.
>>144154751
OP in here, and I didn't even knew about the first translation.
Didn't took away any of the impact, as you could see.
>>144143633
I preferred the Takagi Tuesdays
>>144154736
>>144154797
Matsumoto Eiko, who is a plain normal girl.
Actually, I've made a new thread for it so I don't hijack discussion of Takagi-san.
>>144154882
>>144154892
insta-following this thread
anything by this author was freaking good so far
>>144154982
Even shitty vampire imouto that was axed?
>>144155141
>anything that ends for any reason must have been axed
>>144155162
Then how did it end? I don't read it.
>>144155200
Summarizing the ending won't mean anything if you don't read it, but all the plotlines were tied up, characters were paired off, all that other shit. It was one of the magazine's most popular series, so most likely the author decided to end it and took advantage of that to move Takagi to the main magazine.
>>144155200
Ended with bro going out with glasses girl and Kyouko calling him a sis-con.
>>144155295
>ut all the plotlines were tied up, characters were paired off, all that other shit
That's all I need to know. Thanks, anon.
>>144155200
it seems like the translations stopped.
Could any anon that read it please translate the rest of it for the other fans?
>>144153929
Eh. The supernatural elements were a false flag. The mystery was something else entirely.
As to the rest, it was made clear from the beginning that in the relationship between the two of them Urabe held power over its pace. The reader was more than forewarned. He was hit over the head with it with a dual page layout.
>>144154010
>Remember that part about Tsubaki's going to be her first sexual partner?
We can assume that's sill the case, since Urabe at the end of the manga is resolved to become Tsubaki's wife. Which need not be depicted (or intimated), if the intent of the manga is to conscientiously avoid gratuitous physicality. Which it was.
>Or that other part where Tsubaki's touch "changed her senses" and made her have wet dreams about him? Remember how they'd started getting more and more intimate with each others, physically?
>Well the author doesn't, or at least completely forgot by about chapter 40 onwards.
Which is not to say there weren't elements of more subdued physicality, or that these ceased beyond a certain point. Putting aside the allegorical device that the couple had been swapping spit the entire time, Urabe gets naked for Tsubaki on a couple occasions, licks him, is comfortable being seen by Tsubaki in a wet dress and so on. The idea that she became a frigid bitch is ridiculous, forged by anons grown frustrated that the manga wasn't breaking from its design.
>>144155515
Establishing a firm relationship dynamic from the start is fine. Establishing that relationship dynamic, then centering all dramatic tension on a struggle to subvert that status quo that ultimately goes nowhere, is just frustrating and borderline Kafkaesque.
>>144155828
>if the intent of the manga is to conscientiously avoid gratuitous physicality. Which it was.
If you want to write a story about a romance that doesn't immediately become physical, here's an interesting idea: don't make the entire story about the impending nature of physical romance. Don't include a key plot device that involves literally exchanging saliva to establish a relationship. Don't make the main character openly desperate to win any sort of physical affection from his girlfriend. And for the love of god, don't include a scene where two attractive women strip naked in front of the MC to compete for his affection.
Fuck, I can name at least five romance manga off the top of my head that avoid gratuitous physicality. Know how they do that? They don't make their entire plots and all of their character motivations involve physicality. They probably don't even do that on purpose, they're just stories that are written competently by people who aren't masochists.
>>144155828
>We can assume that's sill the case, since Urabe at the end of the manga is resolved to become Tsubaki's wife. Which need not be depicted (or intimated), if the intent of the manga is to conscientiously avoid gratuitous physicality. Which it was.
Fuck off. You don't start a manga with that kind of incipit and then completely abandon it from the second onwards.
>>144155351
I could do it, since the entirety is out in Korean, but I don't know if I have the time to do so many chapters.
There's a bunch of manga that's out in Korean but not in English that I want to translate to english and have typeset, but I don't know any typesetters, or where to get the raws for that matter. Also, again, time.
>>144156159
There's also Tomorrow is Saturday by the same author which is really cute and fluffy, but that's like 80 chapters long, even though there's only like 3 pages per chapter.
>>144155828
>Which is not to say there weren't elements of more subdued physicality, or that these ceased beyond a certain point.
But they did. Everything that they do or happens in one chapters is never brought up again by the next ones. Nothing changes, new experiences fall flat on their own 18 page long chapter and never are seen again, there's no progression or change in their relationship AT ALL past the first 36 or so chapters and even the little things they achieved are forgotten.
Meanwhile MC's best buddy is actively going out with his girlfriend, growing intimate, openly dating, showing affection, kissing and whatnot. Tsubaki got the short end of the stick.
>>144156159
>>144156211
No worries pal, I'm a very patient anon.
Take your time with the projects you wanna make and focus on this one only when you feel like it.
thanks for the translations so far.
>>144155830
>then centering all dramatic tension on a struggle to subvert that status quo that ultimately goes nowhere
I wasn't seeing it; rather, I saw that I was looking into vignettes of a stereotypical platonic relationship at different stages. Then again, I wasn't subjected to the threads by which the readership came to your opinion. I only picked it up after the anime aired, and for the most part tried to steer clear of the threads because its hatebase had already turned them its shitflinging fests.
I can easily see how that happened, though. The sudden shift from single, stand alone chapters into lengthy back to back arcs would have been trying to get through on a monthly release pace.
>>144156286
Well, projects is overstating things. I'd need the raws first before I can do anything.
>>144156063
>>144156141
>If you want to write a story about a romance
>You don't start a manga with that kind of incipit and then completely abandon it from the second onwards.
I don't hold to your interpretation of the manga as being a romance plot.
I mean come on, man. You get all these weird ass dreamscapes, but don't take from that that there's symbology at play in this manga at its root, rather than a literal interpretation?
>>144140625
And flat.
>>144156555
most important of all, well noticed
>>144156224
>>144156224
>But they did. Everything that they do or happens in one chapters is never brought up again by the next ones. Nothing changes, new experiences fall flat on their own 18 page long chapter and never are seen again
That too was signaled to the reader rather directly by the mangaka. It's a complaint almost verbatim derived from the main character rather early on.
>>144156626
That's no excuse. Slow progression, sure. No progression? That's just lazy.
>>144156322
The Idol arc was widely referred to as "Namec" by /a/
That should tell you everything. Plust it was infuriating seeing how it didn't really accomplish anything and even invalidated all past progression.
So, anime or manga? Which is better for Mysterious Girlfriend X?
>>144156866
Read the manga up until the Idol Arc (ch37 I think)
then watch the anime, which covers about the same lenght of events.
Nothing happens after that, so you can basically say the manga ended at 36 or so chapters.
>>144156944
Got it.
>>144156732
>progression
>>144156773
>progression
This word would apply to a literal interpretation of the manga as a depiction of a true to life romance. I don't hold that's what MSX was. I mean, they start as 2nd year high-schoolers, have 8 years worth of interactions, including numerous seasonal changes to show their relationship in different settings and at different stages and conclude the manga as... 2nd year high-schoolers.
Time, integral to progress, has literally come to a stand still.
>pic related.
I don't presume to be a genius interpreter of visual media, but, man, all those broken clocks and disabled mechanisms.
>>144157064
If you followed the manga you should know that there was a steady advance in their relationship for the first 30-35 chapters who suddenly came to a halt after the Idol Arc and never resumed after that.
That's got nothing to do with the premise of the show, it's just the author hitting a dead end and not bothering to find a way out to keep going.
>>144139806
>Muh bleach
You don't know what real trolling is
Go read the original Princess Hao ending of Shaman King...now that was a fucking troll
>>144156773
>The Idol arc was widely referred to as "Namec" by /a/
>That should tell you everything.
But I do get this. In that I know /a/ is autismal much of the time. re: >>144157181
Including becoming absolutely wedded to first impressions, and not deviating from them at all, even if challenged by later reveals. The point that time has no value to this manga, which (incongruously, perhaps) might only be perceived OVER time, should leave an impression, and inspire the reader to reevaluate what he's been reading up until the point of this realization, but sometimes it just doesn't.
That chapter.
>>144142994
>Is there any other manga with masterful trolling like this?
Nisekoi
>Raku risks his life to save Chitoge
>Chitoge asks "why did you go that far for me?"
>"I thought about it and to describe our relationship as only being friends is not enough....it's because...YOU'RE MY BEST FRIEND"
>>144149256
underrated post
>>144157469
>even if challenged by later reveals.
Which MGX never did. In fact it confirmed them by ending the story with everything at the same point it started.
For fuck's sake they don't even trust one another, whenever Tsubaki is hiding something Urabe immediately steals some spit to know what he's feeling. There's that chapter where Tsubaki refuses to try tasting his ex-crush's spit because he feels their "bond" is a special thing and doesn't want risk ruining it, yet Urabe has no quailms sharing her spit with Oka and that other school boy just for testing.
Their "romance" is laughable and the idea of keeping it utterly platonic eventually fell flat on its face. I only wish the author ended it sooner instead of stringing us readers along for 8 years without delivering anything.
>>144144615
Do you know how slow a glacier goes? It doesn't die by something spectacular, oh now, it chips away bit by bit until it becomes one with the ocean. In the same way the glacial pacing combined with literally no exploration of sex between two weirdos makes the entire things worthless.
Oh and the psychedelic splash page, never comes up again in any form. This manga helped me realize, hey if I don't like a manga no more, I shouldn't waste time on it.
What if
>>144154602
>Also they took a whoooole fuckton of liberties with the translation for whatever reason
Pretty sure that's the Korean translation which did that
>>144157747
Anon, you can let go now. I forgive you. You can stop it, no one is going to hurt you anymore.
I've seen this on /a/ but I don't know anything about.
So I guess there's this cute girl that teases the main character and it looks like they'll get together and then there's a timeskip where they somehow drifted apart and when MC goes to her house to see her again after a long time she's with another guy?
Is it something like this?
>>144157696
>For fuck's sake they don't even trust one another
On the whole, only trivialized, fake relationships as found in fairy tales (or shounen manga) tries to leave the impression that couples should have an unquestionable faith in each other. But as I contend, that's not what we have here.
>whenever Tsubaki is hiding something Urabe immediately steals some spit to know what he's feeling
Urabe steeling Tsubaki's saliva in this case (besides its allegory throughout to kissing) is a plot device to get the pair, representative of a generic couple, to uncover what male and female viewpoints are on whatever issue is at hand.
>There's that chapter where Tsubaki refuses to try tasting his ex-crush's spit because he feels their "bond" is a special thing and doesn't want risk ruining it
trust issues, a recurring theme. Not that I remember the specifics.
>yet Urabe has no quailms sharing her spit with Oka
female only relationships being quite different that the interplay between the coupled pairing of male and female
>and that other school boy just for testing.
As I recall, she only had him taste the saliva, not the other way around. Which you can say is her way of shooting the guy down, or confirming in her own mind how much more valuable is her relationship to her boyfriend. It's been awhile since I read this.
>Their "romance" is laughable
Because it's not a romance. Not in the literal sense.
>and the idea of keeping it utterly platonic eventually fell flat on its face
Probably because the mangaka's aim of approaching matters of a relationship as philosophical discussion points went over your head. But then that's not the only level at which the work can be appreciated. At the very least, you can enjoy the independent chapters or arcs for the flavor of their setting, like looking for beauty in a woman rather than sexiness. Or at an even baser level than that, there's dem fine ass tiddies.
>>144152944
love roma did this but better
they even fucked
>>144152933
>jojo aint shit
>>144159189
Never read it. But I have an assortment of hentai manga if I need to wank one out, so if that's its only sell point, I'll pass.
>>144159140
>On the whole, only trivialized, fake relationships as found in fairy tales (or shounen manga) tries to leave the impression that couples should have an unquestionable faith in each other.
Did I speak about unquestionable faith? No. Fuck off and don't put words into my mouth if you don't want to address my points fairly.
>Urabe steeling Tsubaki's saliva in this case (besides its allegory throughout to kissing) is a plot device to get the pair, representative of a generic couple, to uncover what male and female viewpoints are on whatever issue is at hand.
Or she could respect his desire to keep that moment's thoughts private. Yeah naw, fuck that right? What a disfunctional couple.
>female only relationships being quite different that the interplay between the coupled pairing of male and female
She still didn't have any qualms at using her bond on others, unlike that poor fuck Tsubaki.
>Because it's not a romance. Not in the literal sense.
At least this is true. It's the story about a frigid girls who uses her special power to avoid building intimacy and a beta who's too desperate to do anything against it.
>>144157696
>>144159140
If you insist on reading MSX only for the developing relationship between some random nip named Tsubaki Akira and a girl called Urabe Mikoto who has quite the unusual glandular problem (which I suppose you can), there's that too, given in stages of a relationship. But I think you'd be missing out.
>>144158478
Not at all, just go read it.
>>144159252
it's not an h manga tho
>>144158014
Can't say for sure unless I see the raws. In general though, it's much easier to translate Japanese to Korean than it is English.
>>144159338
The fact is that I don't think there's anything I'm missing out. Up until about chapter 36 there was a steady development along the lines you described, then it got stumped by the Idol Arc and changed to a SoL status quo format that never changed. The manga ended like that, with the original premise abandoned.
>>144159279
>Did I speak about unquestionable faith? No. Fuck off and don't put words into my mouth if you don't want to address my points fairly.
They have trust issues, then, as do most couples (which is a good thing if the purpose is to investigate what lies behind trust issues in general). Yet that's more a thing of the beginning, not towards the end. Their routine becomes more an act of volunteerism, used as a device to share what they're feeling, rather than a cheat of one steeling the mental images from the other.
>She still didn't have any qualms at using her bond on others, unlike that poor fuck Tsubaki.
As I recall, there did come a point that Tsubaki swapped spit with another. But as to the other random chad guy you mentioned, there was no bond. Just spit.
>Or she could respect his desire to keep that moment's thoughts private
What a novel way to avoid all the deeper aspects to this manga to which I've been referring all along. Might as well do away with the magical spit then, and tell a completely different story. One about a boy and a girl and how they'll pass from one stage of a relationship to another until they're doing the horizontal mambo.
Which leads me to wonder why you'd invest time in a manga that has "Mystery" in the title without questioning what that mystery was. Or pick up one that tells you right up front that there will be no kissing or sex, only to grow increasingly frustrated that there was no kissing or sex.
>>144159279
>>144159736
>The fact is that I don't think there's anything I'm missing out
I think you're grossly underestimating it, for cause. Here I am pointing out symbology to certain pages, talking about allegory, and you don't touch these points with a ten foot pole, but do everything you can to ignore them to just go on restating that the only thing that's there is what you saw. Which only elicited more illustrations of my point, so there's a certain value to that.
>Up until about chapter 36 there was a steady development along the lines you described
Or you mistook the need to establish character dynamics and setting as standard introduction, and interpreted all the early interactions in a linear manner, ignoring all the signposts (and discounting them in retrospect) that sequential storytelling was not an important element of the manga. Whenever did calendar dates have a function at all to tie one chapter to another, as you'd typically have in such a story as you describe, even if you were to say the story early on was linear? Nowhere, that's where.
>then it got stumped by the Idol Arc and changed to a SoL status quo format that never changed
Or this is the point at which you lost patience, because Ueshiba, enjoying a steady paycheck, was stretching things out just a bit too much, ignoring that there already had been an earlier break from the stand-alone chapter format with the Cultural Festival arc.
>At least this is true. It's the story about a frigid girls who uses her special power to avoid building intimacy and a beta who's too desperate to do anything against it.
Missing out. In inimitable /a/utistic otaku manchild style, which is a thing this board also likes to do. It keeps the riff raff out. But that also shits on good manga when there's no call for it.
>>144160710
>>144160739
Wow, there's people who unironically liked MGX dead in its tracks pace and nothing ever happening style?
Hell even 4komas and real SoL seres showcase greater development than this turd did.
>>144160710
>What a novel way to avoid all the deeper aspects to this manga to which I've been referring all along.
You're contradicting yourself. First you say that the spit bond is meant to share each other's feelings and now you imply that forcefully mindreading the other's mind and private thoughts is fine too.
Pick one.
>Or pick up one that tells you right up front that there will be no kissing or sex
Except first chapter is literally Urabe stating that Tsubaki will take her virginity. If the author didn't want to bring sexuality into this he shouldn't have started like that and then continued with lots of other moments (breast groping, ear licking, wet dreams) but just kept it strictly platonically.
He didn't, and when readers got angry that the premise got denied and the advances resetted he's the one to be faulted, not the people who were tricked into reading a story he/she didn't have the guts to finish.
>>144160739
>Or this is the point at which you lost patience
Dude you can say anything about MGX readers but not that we lost patience. We followed this thing for years despite its events having the speed of a glacier and yet always hoping, waiting, until the manga ended and nothing happened.
>>144160739
>Missing out. In inimitable /a/utistic otaku manchild style, which is a thing this board also likes to do.
The only thing we're missing out is probably your headcanon. The story's here for everyone to read and it's undeniable that it stopped in its tracks after the Idol Arc.
It's not rocket science: we had a steady albeit slow development of a relationship which at some point stopped until the manga ended with nothing. It deserves all the shit it gets and if the author tried to do something "philosophical" and platonic... well he fucked it up. >>144153929
>>144139806
How was the HM arc ending a troll?
So that guy is just going to snap right? With a powerful back hand he slaps the scissors from her fragile grasp. Shoulders hunched up with aeons of masculine rage, he reaches out and takes Urabe by the throat. Pressing her body against the bridge's railing, he forces her into a long and angry kiss. "That's the ritual for today" he snarls.
Throwing the cold bitch to the ground, he leaps on top of her prone figure. He doesnt need scissors. With teeth and nails he rips Urabe's clothing from her body. "Still fresh," he remarks. "Must be because you've never been touched by a man before. Let's change that". Furiously undoing his jeans with one hand, he holds her down with the other. Then comes the rape. Vicious, hateful, he takes what Urabe owes him after years of dating. With interest.
When he's finished, Urabe is too weak to stand. Arms full of manly testosterone, he lifts her above his head and toss her body into the river below. "Now that this business has been taken care of, time to get a girlfriend who actually likes the touch of a man." He proceeds to fuck thirty highschool girls that year, and later wins the Olympic medal in whore beating.
>>144160888
>Wow, there's people who unironically liked MGX
Wow, yeah, if I were to resort to a logical fallacy here, that's most everybody. Or at least no one disliked it such that they wanted to go back and register a few '1's.
>>144161183
Headcanon is more a thing of those anons which says the story was going to be that Urabe was actually an alien, but that the story was changed after the editor influenced the mangaka without citing a single damn thing to back it up other than their distaste with the way the manga did go down. What I have is an interpretation that others won't want to entertain, because that implies they weren't being particularly perceptive on their first read through. Pride is a common human failing. Not solely my own interpretation, mind you, for I did hit up some of the threads where more in depth discussions were had as undercurrent opinion to the larger hate base, consistent of those anons still reading a thing they no longer liked because why ever drop shit once you start.
>>144139421
I don't get why people are impressed/surprised by this chapter. EVERY CHAPTER IS LIKE THIS.
>>144139421
Saw the ending coming 4 pages in, but seriously how can you not see this coming, at least I've confirmed a part of my soul still isn't in the gutter.
You need a bit of faith in your manga choices to be rewarded.NTR BTFO
>You're contradicting yourself.
No, that's you, to say the idol arc was some break in the pattern, when the cultural festival arc happened in the volume previous. the mindreading aspect is a device to move the individual stories along. I don't imply that its right or wrong.
>Except first chapter is literally Urabe stating that Tsubaki will take her virginity
Followed immediately with the establishment that it's not ever going to happen within the scope of the manga.
>If the author didn't want to bring sexuality into this
Whoever said there wasn't sexuality in this? The work largely revolves around it. This is a young couple in love, after all. Which is not the same thing as having sex. As before, there's a difference in looking upon a woman for her beauty, and looking upon her for her sexiness.
I;m out, though. Well past time I should hit the hay.
