![[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 16 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[0FB4B26F].mkv_snapshot_07.33_[2016.07.03_13.16.06]2.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Yv8AM6f.jpg "[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 16 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[0FB4B26F].mkv_snapshot_07.33_[2016.07.03_13.16.06]2.jpg")
>There are people who honestly don't realize that Mirai Nikki is a blatant and self-aware parody of every bad anime trope in existence.
No wonder this show has such a shit fanbase. On one side, edgy teenagers who love the show but have no comprehension that it's a parody; and on the other, people who HATE it because they mistakenly believe that it is actually meant to be taken seriously.
Mirai Nikki is the Fargo of Anime. And in that sense, it is truly a work of genius.
>it's shit on purpose
Yuno is literally the only reason anyone gives a shit about this show. And the only reason people give a shit about Yuno is because there is an extreme lack of main characters who are hardcore yandere, much less shows that basically revolve around it.
I still don't understand why there aren't more full-on yandere characters.
Need more yandere characters in anime.
>>143998887
Sure buddy.
>>143998708
>Mirai Nikki is the Fargo of Anime.
This makes no sense on multiple levels.
Why is that one person's head so fucking big and why does nobody else acknowledge it??
>>143999089
They have nothing at all in common, except in the sense that: Fargo is a movie clearly meant to be a blatant parody, which retarded people may not recognize as a parody; Mirai Nikki is the same.
>>143999100
Because it's a parody, apparently. A parody of...big heads?
>>143998708
Fuck off. I just want a 2D girl that's crazy for my dick. Is that too much to ask for?
>>143998901
I like Yuno because she reminded me so much of myself.
>>143999165
>Fargo is a movie clearly meant to be a blatant parody
It's a black comedy, not a parody.
>>143998708
Mirai Nikki is unironically a good anime.
>>143999237
I think he thinks that "parody" just means "comedy".
>>143999252
t. 16 year olds
>>143999237
Ok, technically you are correct, I'm using the word 'parody' a bit loosely. Regardless, quibbling details. And Mirai Nikki is ultimately a more subtle than Fargo, although still obviously self-aware.
>>143998887
First, that's wrong
Second, if a show is supposed to be a parody of bad tropes ends up being bad anyways, that would mean it's worse, so your damage control isn't helping
>>143999228
Edgy Yuno-fangirl detected.
You are part of the reason that this show gets a bad rap from some people.
>>143999220
>you will never see this face before you die
Why live?
>>143999329
>ends up being bad anyways
nope
It knows what it is, and pulls it off masterfully. It is unironically a good anime. It honestly boggles my mind that it could be interpreted by anyone as anything other than a subtle parody (edgy teenagers notwithstanding.)
>>143999466
Explain how it is really a parody.
Try to remember what parody actually means this time.
>>143998708
This is like believing Tommy Wiseau when he says The Room was intended to be a comedy from the start.
>>143999525
There is no "explaining". How is one meant to "explain" that Fargo is a dark-comedy? It never comes out and admits it. Yet, it is still patently obvious to anyone with a higher than room-temperature IQ.
Either you see it as it is, or the point just goes flying over your head. There's really nothing else to it.
>>143998708
Elfen Lied did it better.
>>143999692
>How is one meant to "explain" that Fargo is a dark-comedy?
By giving the definition of black comedy and relating it to different aspects of the movie?
>>143998708
>It's not bad, it's just a parody!
I hate millennials.
>>143998708
even if this is a troll there are people out there that actually believe this and it makes me cringe pretty hard tbqh
What was the giant hammer a parody of?
>>143999692
>There is no "explaining".
Of course there is. If you're aren't full of shit, and aren't a dumbass, you should be able to justify the opinions you hold.
It's now perfectly clear who the retard is here, retard.
>>143999747
>born in 1987
>a 'Millennial'
>>143999754
Just think, OP is going to go through his life believing that it's everyone else who is stupid for not agreeing with his stupid opinions, because he's too stupid to understand that his opinions are stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok
>>143999766
The MuruMuru omake at the end of every episode make it pretty obvious. They practically break the 4th wall.
>>143999800
Yes, that would be within the usual definition of "Millennial".
>>143999800
Correct.
>>143999877
That's usually how omakes are, whether for a serious series or a comedy series. That proves nothing.
Is this the first series you've watched?
You're all retarded for arguing for or against intellectual value in anime in the first place.
>>143999887
>>143999890
But I was born 13/14 years before the new millennium, anon.
>it's a parody
Anime tends to be sincere.
>>143998708
Luluco is better
>>143999945
Mirai Nikki is about as far away from 'intellectual' as one can get.
It's just stupid fun. But self-aware stupid fun.
>>143999759
That Japanese tourist who froze to death looking for the money Steve Buscemi hid.
When the homo is the only likable character in a show, you know there's something wrong.
>>143999997
That's not what a millennial is
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials
>>143998887
>...
Why does no one call this out anymore?
Did self-moderation finally die?
>>144000174
Ellipses are a perfectly acceptable form of punctuation. I don't think most who complain about them even know why they're doing so.
![[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 23 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[BD023E9A].mkv_snapshot_04.03_[2016.07.05_21.01.48]2.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZIERGKc.jpg "[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 23 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[BD023E9A].mkv_snapshot_04.03_[2016.07.05_21.01.48]2.jpg")
>>143999439
>Yuno will never murder you on your honeymoon, chop you up into little pieces, put them in a suitcase, and carry them around with her forever because she loves you so much
Life is suffering.
>>144000242
>Ellipses are a perfectly acceptable form of punctuation.
Fuck off, seriously
>>144000174
Seeing as people defend it when it's a clear sign of underage, yes.
>>144000242
No one on this board uses it for any other reason than as a grammatical smiley.
It serves absolutely no purpose in this case.
>>144000174
>>144000420
>>144000442
>>144000443
Jesus, this board is usually pretty chill, but please remove the sand from your vagina because this is some weapons-grade autism right here
>>144000154
>millennial
>lasts from the early 1980s to the mid 1990s even though the former is comfortably within the 20th century and the former is still several years away from the turnover
What the fuck...
>>144000603
>I don't come to /a/ but I like to pretend I do
>>144000603
>Jesus, this board is usually pretty chill
This is how we know you're baiting or from another board.
>>144000603
If you had been here for more than a week, you'd have seen and/or experienced this before.
Back in the day it would have completely derailed your thread.
>>144000622
It's a term for people reaching young adulthood around the turn of the millennium.
>>144000716
Compared to what? /pol/? /v/?
/a/ is without question one of the more tolerable 'fast' boards.
I don't know why I bother to post this since it's essentially the equivalent of posting your IQ or penis-size on the internet, but I've literally been on /a/ since summer of 2004. First summer after graduating highschool. You could say I'm the original summer-fag.
>>144000391
That's not how it works. If you enjoy fantasizing about getting murdered, you should've latched onto a yangire character.
>>144000894
>you could say I'm the original summer-fag
>>144000894
>You could say I'm the original summer-fag.
Emphasis on the fag.
>>144000894
Well, we can all agree that you're a summerfag, so let's leave it at that.
>>144000894
>tfw I can never talk about oldschool shows like Rozen Maiden, Nanoha, and Elfen Lied as they first aired
It hurts...
>>144000894
/pol/ and /v/ are cross-site shitfests with underages running rampant since there is absolutely zero self-moderation.
Stop pretending.
>>143998708
I haven't been a teenager for a very long time.
I have almost certainly watched far more anime than you, probably by a long shot.
And?
I liked it.
But I understand that you just want to talk about it because you're lonely and you made your op intentionally inflammatory so you can have a reason to talk about it.
I know that you really like it too.Yuno a best.
>>144000603
>get ready to jump in b/c I'm a Yunofag
>Turns out he's defending elipses
See! We aren't the worst people around here!
>>143999355
Please don't just brush off my opinion like that, anon. There's nothing edgy about what I said.
>>144001226
Brother! I like you.
>>144001284
Not him, but /a/ has an immune response to blogging.
>>144001392
>...
>>143998708
That would be Big Order, Onii-chan.
>>143998807
This.
Same thing with shit punch man.
>b..but muh satire
>>144001392
>>144001514
>using ellipse and exclamation points
>using any punctuation or grammatical inflection at all
this triggers /a/
>>144001567
>this triggers
>this
>t
>>144001543
But anon, satire is the highest form of comedy. And the more subtle and "poe"-like, the better.
>>144001226
>I haven't been a teenager for a very long time.
This sounds like an underage confession.
>>144001189
I feel your pain, but all of those shows are terrible.
>>144001226
>you just want to talk about it because you're lonely and you made your op intentionally inflammatory
>I know that you really like it too.
I just finished watching the show, and I posted this because I was honestly curious how people would respond. The show clearly has a horrific fanbase of edgy teenagers, but I was wondering how many people here would actually recognize its blatant self-awareness and parody. Judging by this thread, not many.
And if it's not obvious(?) from my OP, I really, thoroughly enjoyed the show for what it is: stupid, retarded, but patently self-aware FUN.
>The shittiest thread on the board right now is a mirai nikki thread
It's like pottery
![[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 26 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[72A1E1E8].mkv_snapshot_23.44_[2016.07.07_14.03.03].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pBdfy6q.jpg "[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 26 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[72A1E1E8].mkv_snapshot_23.44_[2016.07.07_14.03.03].jpg")
>>144002434
it's some sort of dank meme apparently
>>143998708
I know you think you're being funny and edgy by flaming a popular show but the reason why Mirai Nikki was so bad in the first place is because of the exact opposite of your stated reason
>>144002529
>people read the OP
>think I'm flaming the show rather than praising it for what it is
how
>>144002081
Such a chip you have on your shoulder! Try not to demean or belittle your future girlfriend too much.
![[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 01 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[CF8BF3BF].mkv_snapshot_22.27_[2016.06.29_21.46.57]2.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yzV9Dsn.jpg "[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 01 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[CF8BF3BF].mkv_snapshot_22.27_[2016.06.29_21.46.57]2.jpg")
Look out! It's Yuno!
>>144003193
Noo...!
![[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 05 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[468A6063].mkv_snapshot_10.41_[2016.06.29_07.33.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1DoiqEH.jpg "[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 05 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[468A6063].mkv_snapshot_10.41_[2016.06.29_07.33.14].jpg")
>>144003251
~
>>143999945
I bet you think western shit is intellectual don't you?
>>144002629
Presenting a point poorly as if to ridicule it. Like some kind of parody or something.
>>144003596
I'm living at least 4 levels of irony above you, kid. Step it up.
>>143998708
Don't be stupid It's a a silly edgy yandere show with shounen elements. That being said Yuno is great.
>>143998708
>Work of genius
Now come on anon. It's fun, has it's moments and Yuno is cute. But in reality, the story becomes a clusterfuck when it starts jumping all over the place.
It's a perfect example of an interesting concept (time god wants to pick an heir) executed poorly and the very same problem Big Order has.
MC has access to cool power/concept, but shit execution through random location changes, minor time skips and random dues ex machina fucks over the plot.
>>143998901
Because obsessive hyper violent girls don't work in large numbers and they end up devolving into boring crazy people; like some kind of dumbing down of Higurashi girls.
![[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 18 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[B3D2DFE7].mkv_snapshot_00.08_[2016.07.04_17.56.14]2.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rZPTzji.jpg "[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 18 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[B3D2DFE7].mkv_snapshot_00.08_[2016.07.04_17.56.14]2.jpg")
>>144005105
>Yuno is cute
and terrifying.
>>143998708
I love mirai nikki, but don't be a retard, op
mirai nikki is deadly serious
Should I rewatch this show again?
Watching it with /a/ was pretty fun
>>144006986
Cute! I fell that all she needs is a good hug.
>>144007610
feel, not fell
![[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 08 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[9754FFD9].mkv_snapshot_13.24_[2016.07.11_00.25.36].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xUqgdRO.jpg "[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 08 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[9754FFD9].mkv_snapshot_13.24_[2016.07.11_00.25.36].jpg")
>>144007099
Sure.
![[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 14 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[7184337C].mkv_snapshot_18.28_[2016.07.11_00.32.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/d42HcA8.jpg "[Final8]Mirai Nikki - 14 (BD 10-bit 1280x720 x264 AAC)[7184337C].mkv_snapshot_18.28_[2016.07.11_00.32.14].jpg")
What the fuck is this thing supposed to be, anyway? Is it even human? I mean, really?
>>144007940
It's just a parody of shitty character designs, Mirai Nikki is flawless.
>>143998708
it was honestly entertaining, fun things are fun and all that, not everything has to be smart, or even well-written
If I liked Blood-C, Another and School Days, will I like Mirai Nikki?
>>144008949
yes
>>144008949
no one likes mirai nikki
which means you'll love it
>>143998708
this reminds me of the Kill La Kill damage control threads
>>144009058
There's something in this thread to offend just about everyone, really
>it was only pretending to be trash guys!
I'd fuck Yuno harder than anyone else ITT but OP you're retarded and so is Mirai Nikki
>>144008004
this guy gets it
>>144009101
It's already a meme, so you don't need to post it anymore.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/keit-ai-finds-a-way/
>>143998708
>I-I was only pretending to be shit author, baka!
>>143998708
Irredeemable shit show in which Yuki should of paid for his crimes.
I just pain don't like this show.
>>144009101Stop posting that because it's already a thing.https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
>>144009101
Come to think of it, didn't Keit-ai essentially rip off Mirai Nikki?
Its plot is literally just one of many Mirai Nikki plot points.
Even if it's a "parody" the whole thing is a mess. I could believe your claim if Yukiteru didn't exist, but sadly, he exists.
>>144009400
Yukki is basically a "Shinji" archetype, taken to extremes of insufferableness.
>>144000780
Not necessarily. It says that the mid 90's and early 2000's are the cut-off point for births.
>>144009472
The difference is that Shinji being a pussy was the core of NGE thematically and the series would be completely different if he wasn't like that, same can't be said for Mirai Nikki.
>>143998708
> tfw Mirai Nikki was my first real animu
It's great for entry-level viewers. Couldn't stomach rewatching it later though.
>>144001209
It's fucking baffling to see people post memes on /pol/. Literal fucking "TOP TEXT" "BOTTOM TEXT" memes.
>>144009544
Same here. I remember thinking the twist at the end was so great and trying to get people I knew to watch.
>>144009101
>Keit愛 OST
OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycfdfinG_P8
ED1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDNGS9V4Us
ED2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4DyTjrruVo
OP Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NShEKYoPXw
ED 1 Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIX9aoN7g4o
ED 2 Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woiMYzVTl9c
>Keit愛 TVアニメ
PV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
EP 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rz1bluG_k
EP 13: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLUjMWRCzic
>>144009472
But I actually like Shinji but I dislike Yuuki. Yuuki being a little bitch contributed abso-fucking-lutely nothing to the story, he literally had to wait until Yuno fixed everything at the end after becoming god. But that's not even the biggest reason I dislike him anyway.
His whole character just may as well have not existed is why I don't like him. It's clear from the beginning with the first fight and his dart shit that the author wanted to do something? with him, and then that whole thing was just dropped and Yuno basically may as well have been the main character at that point because anything significant in the plot was mostly driven by her. He literally existed as just an object for Yuno to lust over so she could be a yandere.
>>144009544
I see it as the complete opposite, to be honest.
If you haven't seen at least a couple dozen anime and seen the myriad of AWFUL anime tropes that exist in the medium, I don't think you can appreciate how Mirai Nikki is essentially making fun of them.
If you take it too seriously, then it's just an edgy, ridiculous show. If you appreciate it for being a blatantly stupid fun - but patently self-aware - then it's an entirely different show.
(Of course, if you happen to be an edgy teenager, you'll probably enjoy it anyway.)
>>144009636
>He literally existed as just an object for Yuno to lust over so she could be a yandere.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>144009707
Of course I was an edgy teenager. I remember thinking "woah lol anime is SO fucked up!! need moar!". Went on to watch Death Note.
You're still wrong tho.
But
>>144009738
Not him, but a good main character isn't written so shallow. He should have been able to do more than just that.
>>143998708
I unironically enjoyed it. I don't see why /a/ hates edgy stuff so much. It can be fun.
>>143998708
So what you're telling me is that Mirai nikki is ironic shitposting in anime form?
Stil shit
>>144009738
He could have been written to actually do literally anything significant on top of being Yuno's lust object.
It'd make her love for him more convincing too.
Being a "parody" doesn't excuse this because it was obvious he was supposed to do something in the beginning, the author just stopped caring or something.
>>144009999
Don't know about the manga, but in the anime this is essentially addressed when Yuno says something to the effect of: "as long as it was someone I could obsess over, it could have been anyone".
Besides, any other excuse they could have given her would have just been typical contrived anime bullshit. So just shut up and enjoy the Yandere.
>>144006986
That's what's cute about her. It's a fear boner. It's being scaroused. Same reason we keep getting threads about the Moth Pussy.
>>144010085
Yes, that's absolutely true in the beginning - except for the part where she really does fall in genuine love with him by the end.
>>144010185
I get what you mean, but it ain't a romance story. It's about thrilling, terrifying yandere-ness. No need to force some contrived, awful anime-romance trope into something that doesn't need it.
>decent start
>boring middle
>clusterfuck ending
it's shit but i still like it, it could have been great if it was executed better and had a good MC.
>>144010258
I'm not asking to force a romance trope, I'm asking Yuno to actually do literally anything in the series, and as a bonus it'd also seem Yuno's development from seeing him as an object to a lover not feel contrived itself.
But the main point here, is that Yuuki is an unfinished idea that may as well just not exist.
>>144009707
This is the most edgy teenagery thing I've ever heard. Stop trying to put artsy meaning where it doesn't exist.
Yukiteri is Shinji to the extreme?? Are you even aware of who Shinji is?
>>144010389
Yes. They are both insufferable do-nothing retarded faggots. If you've seen one Shinji archetype, you've seen them all. And EVA was a shitty show - if there was ever an anime that tried to inject nonsense artsy bullshit into a meaningless show, that was one for the ages.
>>144010320
>I'm asking Yuno to actually do literally anything in the series
You must mean Yukki here. Yuno essentially single-handedly propels the entire plot.
Basically what you are saying, is:
>Yukki is a shitty character.
I can fully get behind that. Still love the show, though.
>>144010389
>Are you even aware of who Shinji is?
He's that kid that doesn't get in the robot and jerks off, right?
>>144010473
Yeah, I meant Yuuki. Yuno is fine.
He's not even really a shitty character because I hesitate to call him a character, you could replace him with a stuffed animal that a delusional Yuno is obsessed with and the overall plot probably wouldn't change.
Fastfood is objectively shit but yet it tastes good.
>>144010929
Mirai Nikki is more like just skipping dinner altogether, and instead drinking Vodka
>>144010850
And that's a really shitty main character to have.
>>144010850
This is actually probably true.
>>144010448
Shinji is a full character who does nothing because his life is very difficult and he's alone and confused. Yuuki is a shell of a character that follows his girlfriend around for the plot and his only motivation is to maybe not die, which he barely manages to accomplish with a shitton of help thrown at him from every direction.
You're a retard if you think Mirai Nikki is good. It's possible that the writers of the show could have been self aware of how shitty their edgy anime would turn out to be, but keep the plot the way it is for the sales, but it's definitely not a parody, although it could be watched as one. However, most shitty shounen with a fuckton of cliches can.
Yuno a cutie patootie
>>144011134
>Shinji is a full character
I'm sorry, I couldn't read your comment past that, but I have a feeling that it was nothing more than frothing incoherent rage anyway.
Please remove the sand from your vagina, and have a nice day.
>>144011254
>Implying he isn't
You're a special kind of retard anon.
>>144011254
>mecha pilots have to act like kamina or they're not real characters!
Please.
>>144011146
Why oh why aren't there more translated Yuno sadpandas
Truly, life is suffering
>read this entire thread
>not one person has offered a single piece of evidence to suggest Mirai Nikki contains parodical elements
I hate you, /a/
>>144011289
>>144011381
I see the Shinji defense force is in full outfit tonight.
Look, I get it. You saw EVA when you were 14 years old, self-inserted yourself into his shitty nonexistent character (because the entire and only purpose of the Shinji-architype is to do exactly that), and have felt a strong affection for the show ever since. That's fine - nothing wrong with that. But please accept it for what is: a gross self-insertion fantasy, nothing more.
I liked the manga because it has the yandere MAIN character which is actually rare. I don't know why people think its a common thing. I dropped the anime ep 1
>>144011421
then read the thread again, dummy
>>144011462
You're projecting so hard you could show powerpoint projections.
>>144011494
But I don't like EVA because I think it's a shitty show??? And I fully admit that Yukki is a shitty character with no redeeming qualities whatsoever?
Please try again.
>>144011550
Just because Yuuki is a shitty character with no thematic meaning doesn't mean Shinji is like that. The entire point of eva is embracing life and other people, despite how terrible we can be to the ones we love and how bad it hurts, Shinji is central to that point. Contrast Mirai Nikki which has absolutely no thematic depth or deeper meaning where the shitty main character is just the author picking random archetypes to rip off.
>>144011673
Don't forget Shinji's spinelessness actually has some sort of consequence, while Yuuki's doesn't because Yuno does everything anyway even after the universe fucking ends and he becomes god.
>>144011421
>literally every diary owner, besides yukki and yuno, are over-the-top ridiculous stereotypes
>pretty much half of them even serve no purpose at all beyond blatant comic relief
>most of the story revolves around the interaction of these ridiculous characters, making the plot essentially nonsensical
>the MuruMuru omakes are a nice contrast between the thrilling edginess of the show, and veritably break down the 4th wall
>Yuno herself is so over-the-top insane ridiculous, it's impossible not to laugh as she consistently tops her previous insanity with even greater insanity, as the show slides deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole of stupid, absurd psychosis
there.
>>144010320
didnt he make that plan to deal with the foster kids?
>>144011902
None of that makes a parody
>>144011976
Would you consider FLCL a parody?
>>144012070
not him, but FLCL is definitely not a parody. It's over the top yes, but at its core its about a kid trying to grow up, surrounded by a bunch of adults who never really grew up themselves.
>>144011976
its a parody of a parody
>>144012070
No, flcl is a light hearted coming of age story. There are specific scenes that are referential/parodies but not the series as a whole. Funny you picked flcl because again the main character being weak is the thematic core of it.
If you want a proper parody series: Puni PuniPoemii
>>144012148
>>144012191
Interesting.
FYI, FLCL is a blatant parody of not only EVA, but also pretty much everything that Gainax had done up until that point. The creators even said so in the (japanese) directors commentary. Although I think it's also pretty obvious when you watch it.
>>144012291
Are you one of those people confusing poking fun at and being self referential with parodying?
Japs are incapable of producing satire. Real parodies don't exist in their culture.
>>144011902
You appear to have a fundemental misunderstanding of how a parody/comedy is supposed to work, you don't parody clichés just by overusing them.
>>144012402
>>144012466
Are you one of those people who have never heard of the term "self-parody"? (Feel free to google it and learn something new)
>>143998901
This. Like Elsa or Raven she carries the entire show but gets so little screen time.
Man this show sucks, but It's a good entry in anime.
>>144012291
>, but also pretty much everything that Gainax had done up until that point. The creators even said so in the (japanese) directors commentary. Although I think it's also pretty obvious when you watch it.
Post time of that comment.
Taking this seriously, the show is not necessarily a parody, and it's definitely not satire since it doesn't criticize its cliches. But it is DEFINITELY self aware.
It's a shonen. Very bloody, action horror shonen. The premise is interesting but then the situations are ridiculously absurd because, in the words of Bakuman characters, manga has to be interesting.
Mirai Nikki was perfectly interesting. It was as funny as it was thrilling. You don't need to turn your brain off to enjoy it, because by having a brain it's what makes the absurdity work.
>>144012487
Yes an example of that is the father being obsessed with eva or the Daicon reference, not the entire series.
>>144012454
Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei is nothing but parody AND satire of japanese culture.
>>144000075
>le smug white haired know it all
>>144012191
Shinji and Naota being very similar in character is not a coincidence.
FLCL in 6 episodes pretty much does what EVA was going for thematically, but MUCH better, and does so stylishly and with humor.
EVA's problem is that it just takes itself way too seriously to be enjoyable. FLCL fixes that - there's a reason it's made by the same people.
>>144012622
I can agree with this. Restatement of the OP, but less "inflammatory".
>>143998708
>Have tsun fetish
>Watch mirai nikki
>Suddenly have a yandere fetish too
I am the hybrid, The One
>>144012773
>FLCL in 6 episodes pretty much does what EVA was going for thematically, but MUCH better
I disagree.
Eva was an exploration of depression, abandonment and accepting oneself. FLCL was a story about maturing.
Shinji is someone with mental issues. Naota is a normal kid that feels very awkward.
>>143998708
ITT:
Baiting and Bull Shit!
>>144012845
Once you go full yandere, you can't go back to tsundere.
>>144012884
>liking tsunderes in the first place
Maybe classic Tsunderes, but modern tsunderes are shit. SHIT.
>>144012291
A parody is the exaggerated imitation of a material done for comedic effect. This is literally the definition of it.
FLCL in no way exaggerates anything about Eva. It paid homage to it occasionally, along with many other gainax things yes, but that's not the same thing as parodying.
>>144012773
FLCL and Eva aren't the same thematically though, FLCL has barely anything to do with coming of age as it does with human relationships and individuality. That's why the entire series builds up to Shinji choosing to accept or reject instrumentality, he can wash away all of the pain he's felt from his abandonment or loneliness and he rejects it. The only similarity here is that they both grow as characters, but that isn't saying very much.
>>144012773
It's pretty obvious you're just reading off of tv tropes and not actually looking at the series. They're similar but far from the same, Eva is perhaps perfectly summed with the admittedly overused hedgehog's dilemma and explores that while flcl is much more about growing up.
It's about shedding childish ideas of being an adult, such as preferring bitter food, and instead learning what being an adult actual is.
>>144012938
I meant Evangelion has barely anything to do with coming of age*
FLCL has everything to do with a coming of age story.
>>144012923
>modern tsunderes
What does that even mean
>>144012946
To add/reiterate, yeah they're similar but that's not what a parody is, it's called exploring similar themes because what the studio apparantly likes. Like Shinkai his work isn't a self parody, there's just a collection of ideas/themes he likes to explore from different angles.
>>144012857
>>144012938
>>144012946
Ok, these are fair enough assessments of the two series (EVA and FLCL)
Still, they are fairly close in theme, regardless. And I maintain that EVA is complete garbage, and FLCL is awesome.
>tv tropes
lol no.
>>144012998
Classic tsundere are girls who start rude and then develop into loving through multiple phases of denial. Modern tsundere are girls who pretend they don't love the boy they obviously like and act all bitchy even when they are into the relationship.
Explained by that one episode of Lucky Channel.
>>144013083
You're acting like tsunderes in older series weren't violent and unreasonable for "comedy."
They were even worse, honestly.
>>144013083
A little tsun bitchyness in a relationship is good though, keeps it alive! And you want to live with your waifu forever, don't you?
>>144013083
>i-it's not as if I like you or anything, baka!
I like the modern version better. Anyway, they usually warm up fully to the MC, in the end.
>>144013066
>And I maintain that EVA is complete garbage,
Eva is great, but I'd honestly say its best version is the manga. It cuts down the filler, and it's Sadamoto's own interpretation of the tale. You can see the ways he contrasts with Anno as an author, most notably in his Shinji. While still shy and depressed, he has some deserved sass when it comes to Asuka, alongside small differences in every character that make, again IMO, the best versions.
>>143998708
In response to those who say that Yuki is just a little bitch.
from the wiki:
When Muru Muru showed Yuki the flashbacks from the First World where Yuno came from, Yuki seemed braver and less cowardly. The reason why Yuki was weak in the Second World was because he was pampered and fiercely protected by First World's Yuno all the time.
>>144013066
That's very common for someone to have a similar pallet/style, gainax has done a ton of similar coming of age stories and they do skirt the line between parodies, spiritual succesors and just being similar.
For references in artists with a certain style there's the aforementioned Shinkai, Sakae Esuno of Mirai Nikki also has a style with the similar Big Order or indeed Lynn Okamoto of Elfen Lied fame with the similar Brynhildr.
>>144012466
>how a parody/comedy is supposed to work, you don't parody clichés just by overusing them
Of course it is. The entire purpose of a good self-satire/parody is that it doesn't just come out and ADMIT that it's parody. You're just supposed to figure it out from the context.
For example, the best Onion articles are the ones where you read half-way through them, before you realize that it's a joke and you were just linked to the Onion.
The best satire is generally that which rides as close as possible to fulfilling "poe's law", which is why the best satire pieces are generally not recognized as such by large swaths of the public.
>>144013156
>>144013160
most of the tsunderes I see nowadays are more loving than anything anyway. Even their tsun is just embarassed affection.
>>144013279
I know that, but unfortunately, the manga isn't about 1st world Yuki, maybe it would have been good then.
>>144012938
Naota finally swinging the bat is a pretty obvious parody/homage of "SHINJI, GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT!!"
>>143998708
It parodies and yet also revolutionizes Yandere and takes it to a pure(r) form; defines it.
I'll give you that.
>>144015584
Yandere is just otaku jargon
Yuno isn't there to parody it but rather the situations and themes in the show with her character.
This fucking bitch ruined it for me. Like they constantly tried to autosmart each other with their garbage abilities and then when the MC was about to lose she just went berserk and killed everything for him. What was the purpose of even trying to do it the smart, sneaky way then? Fuck this piece of shit.
>>144011392
>tfw there's an NTR Doujin of all things.
>>144016296
>you will never be a hot 2D girl, restrain Yuno and force her to watch while you rape her precious Yuki
Life is suffering.
>be highschoolfag
>find out the library's manga collection is actually pretty sweet
>stumble upon future diary but they only have the first 1 or 2 volumes
>go home and read it online
>think it was just OK
>ends up getting an anime a few years later
>watch it because fuck it why not
>have all thesefriendsthat watch it and talk it up like it's high art or something
I don't get it. Its almost under and overrated at the same time. A lot of people seem to hold it in high regard for some reason while others hate it and the people that like it
IMO its not even a series worth arguing over as much as people do.
>>144016250
You just don't get it, it's supposed to be bad!
>>144016413
I haven't met anyone who can explain why they like it with anything more than "it's fun"
>>144016335
Nope, there are at least 2 (Maybe 3 I think?) where Yuno is NTR'd.
>>144016413
>I saw it first!!!!!!!!!!!
kill yourself
>>143998708
Its objectively great.
>MC turns from default unrealistic beta pussy mc to super hardcore
>>144009396
>Miray niki
Was Big Order made to make Mirai Nikki look good?
>>144017639
Hell if I know
I watched this a month ago and liked it. Why don't you people like it?
>>143999999
>>144000000Oh snap
The show is popular because Yuno is in it . You could replace every single character with a empty milk bottle and it would still be popular, just cause of Yuno. She's the best/most appealing example of a Yandere. Also she's cute
Big Order is over, I want a Mirai Nikki prequel next.
>>144021050
Or hell even a spin-off where there is no survival game, because I'm curious as to how Yuno and Yuki would have gotten together were it not for the survival game.
>Wake up
>See this
What do?
>>144022018
Reality check. If she's still there, get ready to walk her home gently,take responsibility.
>>144022018
Is it in the morning or the middle of the Night ?
>>144023057
Middle of the night
Yukiteru isn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be. He's a spineless, antisocial coward, and he just wants to try to piece his family life together. He doesn't want to be a hero or a god, he just wants to have a decent normal life. But he's denied that because he doesn't know that his father is a piece of shit.
When you have this character confronted with the end of the world and life-and-death scenarios, it's not going to end well. He wants no part of this or the survival game, and for good reason-- he doesn't want to get involved with all these murderous schemes.
Complicating this is Yuno, an obviously insane girl claiming to be his lover and who keeps corpses in her house, saying that she will be his ally in said survival game. Admittedly, Yuno is right 90% of the time, but she is not the kind of person a normal individual would want to be around at all. Combined with the violence and betrayal Yukiteru is experiencing, the whole circumstance is not good for his mental health.
Over the course of the series, it becomes clear that Yuno is the only one he can really trust. Except then even so she drugs him and ties him to a chair, and he feels the sting of betrayal from even her. All of this serves to push him even further into his shell.
However, he then gains a sense of resolve through hope-- if he becomes a god, he can save all the people who died-- so he casts off his restraints and begins to embrace the murderous, backstabbing nature of the survival game. He realizes his selfishness, but now he's going to fight for what he wants, no longer having qualms about dirtying his hands.
And by the end, the Stockholm syndrome has set in so thoroughly that he actually does love Yuno, to the point that he accepts that if he can't bring back anyone, he'd rather die alongside her than become a god without her.
Of course Yuno would have none of that but it all worked out in the end.
>>144024222
subscribed
Take this shit to MAL or Reddit or whatever cesspool you crawled out of
>>144022018
Search for higher resolution image.
>>143999877
>the omake shows that it's a parody
How fucking new?
>>144024368
So I'm supposed go along with the majority opinion based on a blatant overgeneralization of a character that tunnel-visions on his initial traits and ignores the development he undergoes and without examining any context?
>>144024649
lurk moar faggot
>>144024368
Mal or Reddit wouldn't have that sort of thing, it would probably come out like "Omg. This show. Yuno was so cool, and Yuki was kind of a coward but he got better, and it had all these tragic characters and dramatic scenes. It was pretty sad too but then the ending was happy so I'm happy too. I recommend this show to everyone 10/10 wow speechless..."
With more spelling errors.
>>144025189
Just so we are clear i fucking hate you. But i basically felt that way about the show.
Fuck me
>>144023505
Tell her to come back to bed since its cold at night
>>143999317
No, you have no idea what "parody" means. Fargo is a classic black comedy, Mirai Nikki is just shit.
>>144009584
you can thank reddit (ex-redditors are probably a majority of /pol/ these days) for that
>>144025517
Love you anon, now go back.
I have a yandere girlfriend obsessed with Mirai Nikki and Yuno specifically. It is not fun.
>>144031089
>not letting her blindfold, gag and tie you up on a chair and dominate you
For shame.
>>144031970
As long as we agree on a safe-word before hand, then I'm ok with it.
Is this thread a parody?
>>144033638
Too bad she suddenly turns deaf once it starts.
>>144031089
Post pic
>>144026719
They can both be accurately described as having strong elements of "self-parody". If you disagree, you are wrong, and obviously don't know what "self-parody" means.
>>144016422
These types of comments are tiring.
>>144016463
>I haven't met anyone who can explain why they like it with anything more than "it's fun"
Jesus, it's almost like I'm back on /v/
>>144012622
>You don't need to turn your brain off to enjoy it, because by having a brain it's what makes the absurdity work.
Exactly this. It's dumb, stupid fun presented through a thrilling roller-coaster experience, but if you just turn off your brain and ignore the absurdities, you're missing half the appeal.
>>143999608
Ha ha. What a story Mark.
>>144035765
>tfw no yandere gf to hobble you
>>144035901
>Wanting a 3DPD Yandere...
>>144024222
Nigga all you did was describe the plot. Weak ass commentary. At least you attempted concrete detail-commentary format, so you get a 5/10.
>>144037725
> Not liking Yandere
But Yandere is wonderful! When you see them your entire world lights up with overwhelming beauty and joy. Your instinctual feelings say that they're the one, that you were MEANT to be with them and all messages to the contrary become void. Every time they leave it tears that joy away like a hairy bandaid, leaving nothing but horrible void. You want them back. You NEED them back. Your body tears itself apart wanting to run towards that burning desire.
Yandere is love. Yandere is happiness. Join us, anon.
>>144038618
That's just the adrenaline, anon.
You're mistaking your fear-induced adrenaline rush for actual feelings of love. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
>>144038175
I explained how the plot drives Yukiteru's character development. It's particularly "deep", so there isn't much to say. And yet most people I see just generalize him as "shitty coward who does fuck all" when that's blatantly false. Not saying he's a great character, but he's at least decent.
>>144038618
No, I don'y have a problem with Yandere's, hell I agree that Yandere's are love and happiness, but to think of 3DPD as anything good, Yandere or not, is fucking retarded.
>>144038727
That's ordinary tsundere, anon. The sudden shock of emotion causes fear, which gets expressed in anger. It subsides when the stimulus isn't around.
Yandere is a whole new tier of obsession, because without the "fix" it overwhelms the user like a designer drug chemical withdrawl. The user is compelled to do anything to make the withdrawl go away. Anything.Don't ever leave me. You don't know how much that hurts. I'll hurt you too.
>>144039356
Oh, I get it. I thought you were speaking from the perspective of the object-of-affection, not the yandere themselves.
Think about it: If you've got a crazy yandere stalker after you, you're probably constantly living in fear of your life, and at a certain point it may be difficult to differentiate the adrenaline pump you get from seeing them vs legitimate feelings of affection.
