Who is the bigger asshole between Dio and Griffith?
>>143892228
You
>>143892228
I'm going to have to go with DIO.
>>143892228
Imagine if they had a baby together.
the /v/ crossposter
Griffith probably. DIO would at least openly admit to being a cunt
Dio at least had the decency to not fuck the dog.
Nah Dio.
He came in to his house and layed down the laws and burned his dog annd then stole his gf's first kiss.
Not to mention how he fucked up the people Jonathan cared about and the tried fucking over his descendents
>>143892437
He would be fabulous.
>>143892228
Dio never actually cared for the people he "wronged". He was just playing with trash.
Griffith actually had to care for his turning point to happen.
So Griffith is the bigger asshole.
Dio was evil or more like fucked up all along, but the Joestars were too retarded to realize.
Griffith betrayed hundreds of his man for power, he's worse.
>>143892228
Dio. Griffith did literally nothing wrong.
What's Griffith's backstory for being evil?
>>143894396
He isn't evil. He is like Alexander the Great or Napoleon. Were they evil?
>>143894450
Alright, let me rephrase that, what's his backstory for being a jerk?
>>143892228
Griffith.
Dio is a corrupted human who battled a single family. Griffith fucked over his entire company in the worst way possible. Betrayers are the worst.
>>143894490
He isn't a jerk.
>>143894563
Just tell me his backstory, I haven't read Berserk.
>>143894563
Griffith fuck off.
>>143894589
It's long and complicated. People don't like him because he sacrificed his people and raped MC's girlfriend.
>>143892228
Griffith because he was an actual character who had a fall to evil. Dio was a villain from the beginning so the asshole things he did had less impact.
>>143894450
there's a difference between forcing people to fight for a cause, and straight cold-blooded murder.
>>143894589
Griffith the commander of a company of great mercenaries who all respected him a lot. Some time later Griffith gets captured and tortured for screwing a princess without permission. His body is basically a husk and he cant even move without assistance. Faced with the possibility of living the rest of his life like this, he offers his entire company up as a sacrifice to a bunch of evil deities in order to join them. Most of the company gets eaten by monsters and whatnot. The protags waifu gets raped and mindbroken by God Griffith while the protag is forced to watch.
>>143892228
Dio, griffith was backed into a corner, it was the only way for him to regain a functional body and seek his dream. Also his last words to his friends before turning was "go back" (he realized they were in peril)
Knowing someone is a Griffith apologist makes me instantly reevaluate my friendship with them
>>143894719
How many people we talking? Dio's killed Enya, but as far as followers go, he tends to keep to himself and only talk to one at a time.
>>143894813
Griffith isn't a cold-blooded murderer.
>>143892228
>>143892228
Biggest asshole is DIO, since as of part 3, he prefers fucking with people to crazy-ass sadistic shit, bar the senator.
Griffith is more evil, though.
>>143894927
murdering a couple hundred of your own friends and followers for personal gain seems pretty cold-blooded to me
>>143894886
A small group of mercenaries. Maybe 100 people?
>>143893111
Jonathan still lived a happy life. Griffith murdered the only people Guts cared about and then fucked the woman he loved and forced him to watch. Also Dio and Jojo were never friends, Griffith was like a brother to Guts.
>>143894886
About 70 one night, all while he raped Guts' girlfriend in front of him, forcing the swordsman to sever his arm from the maw of a monster. His eye was then goughed out. Also, Griffith associates with being of pure evil.
Griffith is evil. Deal with it. He's smart, he's a sociopath, and he has legitimate intentions, but he's still fucking evil.
>>143894927
But he literally is.
L I T E R A L L Y.
>>143892228
I've honestly kind of softened on Griffith a bit. He betrayed the Hawks, of course, but it was an act of desperation. He was broken, mind and body, and he realized that if he gave up then, everything he worked for would have been for nothing, and everyone who died along the way would have been in vain. Even if he had told the Godhand to fuck off, he most likely would have died, and the Apostles probably would have killed everyone anyway.
Raping Casca and making Guts watch, though, that was just being an asshole.
>>143894815
so guts is a cuck?
>>143894994
It's not. Have you read the manga?
>>143895068
Guys he's kidding you know.
It's because this argument gets everyone riled up.
He'll reply to this post saying "But I'm not kidding."
Toeyou.
>>143895067
Kind of. He didn't take it willingly. His GF is a rape victim, and Guts is an everything victim.
Is there any reason which is not the current season for which this board has been completely infested with cancer so far this month?
>>143895067
More or less.
>>143895126
I'm not kidding. Berserk is simply a more complex work than that. If you think that Griffith is just some evil asshole then you clearly don't really understand it.
>>143895161
Of course.It's summer.
>>143895239
>not the current season
Cool illiteracy breh.
>>143895161
all me
>>143895270
I took it as the current anime season.
>>143895206
>willing to step over people to achieve his goals
>even friends
>didn't care for random people dying for him even before the eclipse
I don't care whatever shit he want through, I don't care whatever shit he went through, I doubt he went through as much shit as Guts.
>>143892228
Dio had no reason to fuck with the joestars. Griffith did what he did because he was butthurt that his comrade wasn't gay too
>>143895402
What the fuck, why did I write that twice?
Apparently I really care about not caring about Griffith.
>>143895402
>didn't care for random people dying for him even before the eclipse
That's simply not true.
>>143895311
I guess that's understandable. Maybe it's just my imagination, but it seems so much worse than I remember each summer before it being. The worst part is that I'm getting my ass kicked by Poe's Law. There is so much shitposting going on, it's actually difficult to tell who is serious and who isn't.
>>143892228
Dio obviously. His only reason after being taken in by the Joestars is his desire to.
DIO is definatly hotter
>>143895725
Do you think he touched himself immediately after body jacking Jojo?
>>143895161
It is quite literally all me
Whenever you see a series spammed with threads out of nowhere over the course of a week with progressively little attempts at good discussion or not shitposting it has been me. Why? Because the mods are way more lenient during the summer and I love to watch /a/ crumble as a result.
>>143895725
>Griffith
>had every single one of his hopes and dreams crushed
>sacrifices people he blamed for his year long torture session
>goes off to build a utopia
>Dio
>had a kid's dog burned alive just to make him angry
>goes off to have sleepovers with a gay priest
>>143896675
>>goes off to build a utopia
After flooding the entire world with monsters.
>>143896675
No, you got the order wrong. He kissed Erina, beat Jonathan up, and showed off to make him angry, then burned his dog when Jonathan wrecked him and retaliated instead of cowering like a spoiled rich kid.
>>143896872
>humanity's desire
It's not like he did it because he is an asshole. It's all part of some grand plan.
>>143896675
>>sacrifices people he blamed for his year long torture session
They were fucking faultless, it was his homolust for Guts
>goes off to build a utopia
that you're forced to live in if you don't like troll rape
Fuck Griffith and fuck Griffith supporters.
>>143897018
>It's all part of some grand plan.
Sounds like the grand gape in your asshole after all of that Griffith dick you've been taking anon.
>>143897044Griffith did nothing wrong
grifift is awesome
>>143896675
>sacrifices people he blamed for his year long torture session
No one told him to rape the king's loli princess, right?
his name should be grigift bc he's a gift to us
Griffith was elected for his position by the common consciousness of humankind. Everything he does is for the benefit of his species.
You can't judge him with your slave morality. He is above that.
>>143896961
>He kissed Erina
I totally forgot about him stealing her kissu virginity.
>>143896675
did he actually blame them?
>>143896675
>he forgot the point-blank bullying
Dio took every respect Jonathan ever had from his dad and friends. Except for Erina's, then he stole her first kiss.
>>143897226
right, people just misjudge him badly
>>143897226
>this was retconned
>Guts won't get to rip and tear that
pretty gay desu
>>143897408
The Egg Apostle basically said the same thing.
>>143897226
>Griffith was elected for his position by the common consciousness of humankind.
"Election" implies a conscious act, but him being in his position is a mere result of a lot of unconscious processes; a mere accident.
>Everything he does is for the benefit of his species.
Every mad, genocidal dictator has claimed to do the cruel things he did for some greater good.
>You can't judge him with your slave morality. He is above that.
Then he clearly isn't good either, and even if I couldn't judge him by standards of human morality, we still could decide whether we should get rid of him.
At least Dio admits he's evil
>>143897502
>a mere accident
What do you mean? The entire history was shaped so he could appear. Idea of Evil literally called itself the ego of this world.
And like I said, Griffith isn't a mad dictator. He appeared because humanity deeply desired someone like him. Someone that will destroy the corrupted old world and create a new better one.
>>143897702
>idea of evil
Not canon anymore.
>>143892228
Dio. Dio was actually just an asshole while Griffith did it for the greater good.
>>143897757
At the end of Conviction Arc the narrator calls Griffith the Desired One.
>>143897841
The narrator is just a lusty, old, homosexual man.
>>143897765
DIO's plan for heaven would have made humanity happy.
