Will we ever get another dramatic love triangle or do nips only adapt harems with beta male lead?
>>143828503
Best girl won
>>143828503
>love triangles
into the trash it goes
why dont you grow up and read josei already you pathetic mess
>>143828503
>love triangles
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>if it's a harem the mc has to be a beta, just as the memes foretold
>>143828654
reading shoujo rape
It will mostly stay the same because the MC acts how a boy should, you fuckers call him a realfag
and if they design a MC that mirrors your own broken psyche you call him an edgy bastard.
>>143828503
I hope we do. And I hope we get something as good as WA2, as it was the best romance animu out there.
>>143828939
It was more like an anti-romance anime about the dangers of being a normalfag.
>>143829006
We're not talking about School Days here though.
>>143829047
Nobody said anything about School Days.
>>143829110
>anti-romance anime about the dangers of being a normalfag.
Pretty sure you meant School Days with this. WA2 is a tragic yet beautiful story.
>>143828503
TOUMA BEST GIRL
>>143829194
Settling for someone you're not really into and then cheating on her is not romantic, it's anti-romantic normieshit.
>>143829435
You are probably who finds kiddy toradora the best love story ever told. Fuck off
>>143829435
If you want your stories about princes on white horses, read fairy tales or shoujoshit. It's a story about imperfect people, and this is why it is so beautiful.
Are there any good harems where the MC isn't a ginormous beta, or is that only a myth?
>>143829653
>being interested in imperfect people
heres an idea; how about you just get into dating real people, they're all the same uninteresting scumbag shits you like so much
oh wait thats right, you've always been alone so your only interaction with realistic emotion comes from really bad middle school tier drama
oops
>>143829855
Grisaia, but I can't say it is a good harem.
>>143829855
Hi newfag.
>>143829890
Nice projections here, mate.
>>143829890
Why are you so mad? Did you got cucked before?
>>143828503
Love triangles are no better.
>>143829855
>Are there any good harems where the MC isn't a ginormous beta
It shows how much /a/ average power level has fallen.
>>143829628
I just like real romance, not anti-romance.
>>143829653
If you want "realism" then why not watch American shows?
>>143829943
He said "good"
>>143831040
They don't exist.
And even when they don't fear pussy they are either blank "chill" self-inserts or edgelords like HotD's MC (yeah Rei a shit but MC-kun is pretty edgy).
Setsuna stole the show. Damn, admit I liked her a lot.
>>143831317
Self-inserts are a meme.
>>143831723
Oh yeah, that is Oregairu for those who don't know.a
>>143830410
Tfw when no s2
>>143830858
>If you want "realism" then why not watch American shows?
Because they obviously lack romance.
>>143829653
>It's a story about imperfect people, and this is why it is so beautiful
This anon gets it right.
They feel and act like real people, that's why it's great.
They're not walking stereotypes.
>>143832347
So does WA2.
>>143832487
False dichotomy. A character isn't a "walking stereotype" just because they aren't "real." And if you're so insistent on "realism" then maybe anime isn't for you.
>>143832505
Well, it's up to you. You may watch your shows about flawless people, 600 year old perfect vampires and Mary Sues. No one makes you watch WA2. It just shows you don't know shit about romance at all.
>>143828503
You do realize that WA2 is a harem right? There's three more girls.
>>143832596
>You may watch your shows about flawless people, 600 year old perfect vampires and Mary Sues.
Nice strawman. Or maybe it's a serious representation of what you think you know about anime.
>No one makes you watch WA2.
I already watched it.
>It just shows you don't know shit about romance at all.
I do, and that's why I don't like WA2.
>>143832810
Tell us then, romance expert, which romance shows you liked.
>>143832864
No, because that's a trap and a red herring.
Mad Saekano fan up in here.
>>143832885
>>143829855
>good harems
To create a good harem, one would have to:
- write an MC with character strong and interesting enough to justify him being a pussy magnet,
- maintain multiple proper romances at the same time; the "I want to suck his dick because he was nice/he saved me" is a no-no,
- come up with a GOOD reason why a bunch of girls would share a dick (or give MC some godlike cheating skills) to avoid a NICE BOAT,
- not resort to cockblocking or MC running away and let characters get lewd when the time comes,
- have some actual plot,
- sell all above to publisher and shitty audience,
- chain editor in the basement.
That would require writing skills way above an average manga/LN author, audience autism way below an average otaku and ability to fuck off and let writer do his job way beyond an average eleven shekelstein.
>>143832964
Great counter-argument, you sure showed me.
Now fuck off back to Facebook.
>>143833021
The harem genre isn't bad just because you don't like it.
>>143833080
>The harem genre isn't bad just because you don't like it.
Of course, it's bad because the execution of the idea is laughingly awful.
>>143833425
What you just described is not the idea of the genre, it's your personal idea.
>>143833080
Well, what is there to argue with? You only told THATS ANTIROMANCE BECAUSE I SAID THAT ITS FOR NORMALFAGS.
>>143833877
You have to be a normalfag to think WA2 is romantic and what romance anime should aspire to be.
>>143828503
Do we really need one? After Kazusa's glorious victory I think I'm satisfied with the genre and have moved on.
Harems however are not watched because they are good. They are watched because each girl is a hook that appeals to different tastes.
They throw out 3 or more hooks to catch as many people as possible and then they're all stuck watching the series for a single girl who will likely never win, and even if she does win it won't be satisfying. It's a shit genre but it's an effective one.
>>143833021
That MC would be generally considered to be a bad person. Most people would not root for a bad person unless they're the antagonist or it's a redemption story.
>>143834093
>anime is about the "best girl" "winning"
>I'm cynical and 16 years old so that means manga artists are conmen only trying to trick people into reading things
Maybe you should just stop watching anime altogether.
>>143834093
>glorious victory
It was a glorious victory if you ignore everything is in ruins.
>>143833527
Last time I checked, there was no scientific method for measuring quality of writing, so of course any attempt to classify a written work as good or bad is merely an opinion. Including yours.
>>143834163
If the girls were fine with sharing, he wouldn't really hurt anyone. Also MC doesn't have to be a good guy, he has to be interesting to watch.
>>143834369
>Last time I checked, there was no scientific method for measuring quality of writing, so of course any attempt to classify a written work as good or bad is merely an opinion. Including yours.
This has nothing to do with what I said.
>>143833975
>source: me
Well, we heard you already. Any arguments?
>>143834609
>source: me
Source: common sense.
>Any arguments?
Oh you mean like posting reaction images? I guess I haven't reached that level of argumentation ability yet.
I really hope they adapt Closing Chapter and especially Coda, because, oh boy, Introductory Chapter is just the beginning.
I admire the depth and realism of the characters, they're really human: they waver, they hesitate, hurt each other - a fucking lot. It's in no way idealistic, but that's also why it shines in comparison to other romances, I guess. Or at least, I think.
>>143829855
Grisaia no Kajitsu and Trinity seven.
There are only two in existence, so enjoy them.
>>143834656
No, I mean something more that I SAID THAT, THATS WHY
>>143834577
Of course it does. I listed what I believe are requirements for a good harem. And you keep talking about it being my personal idea, as if it could be anything else.
Honestly, I'm not even sure what you are trying to prove.
>>143834717
I want to believe.
>>143835008
There's nothing more that needs to be said.
>>143835025
> I listed what I believe are requirements for a good harem.
You described something that isn't the harem genre and complained that the harem genre is bad because it's not like that.
>>143828503
>White Album 2
There is always the second season of Oregairu for you.
>>143835121
In that case enlighten me, what the "harem genre" is.
>>143835302
If you don't know even what it is then maybe you shouldn't be trying to argue about it. Jesus christ.
>>143835363
It's just that you have you own little world, where words 'harem' and 'romance' mean something else than IRL. So please deifne what it means in your world.
>>143835363
Oh, but I do. I don't think there is anything wrong with my understanding what harem is, so unless you drop that holier-than-thou attitude and provide any argument proving otherwise, I believe you have nothing interesting to say.
>>143835467
Anime isn't IRL, least of all your normalfag IRL.
>>143835507
>Oh, but I do.
Oh, but you just said you don't.
>>143832579
Well I'm sorry if I want characters to act in a believable way.
Now go back to your shitty harem #30215.
>>143835302
>newfag
hes already did
>>143835602
If you want "realism" then anime is not for you. Go watch American shows.
>Now go back to your shitty harem #30215.
What the fuck are you babbling about?
>>143835601
>Oh, but you just said you don't.
If you really though so, it means irony is not something you are accustomed to.
To clarify your confusion - I was asking for definition of harem that YOU keep using but refuse to share, since it seems to be quite different form mine.
>>143835601
Thanks anon i like you, show them.
>>143836016
If you've actually watched harem anime then you know exactly what it's like. Don't try to pretend like >>143833021 is what harem anime is supposed to be like.
>>143836120
I watched quite a lot of harems, so I know what they are like.
Also, you keep telling me that I'm wrong, but still don't provide any arguments to back it up. I can't wait to see your definition of harem.
>>143836417
>I watched quite a lot of harems, so I know what they are like.
Then I don't need to tell you anything. You know what they're like. Case closed.
>Also, you keep telling me that I'm wrong, but still don't provide any arguments to back it up.
Oh, so you HAVEN'T watched harem anime?
Best romance ever made.
Also Touma is god tier wife material.
>>143836843
>participates in cheating
>wife material
Pick one.
>>143836892
Pure love trascends cheating
>>143837017
As if normalfags would know what pure love is.
>>143837017
Jesus, /a/.
>>143837089
W-Well I don't know what love is I can only guessTouma's my best guess
>>143828503
>love triangles
"tfw no gf" tier genre.
>>143836767
So, you have no arguments. Case closed.
The only requirement for story to be considered a harem is to have multiple girls romantically and/or sexually interested in one guy as one of the major focus points. That's all.
>>143836843
Setsuna is too. Though I like Kazusa better.
>>143837457
>So, you have no arguments.
So you're trying to argue about harem anime without having watched it.
>>143837516
Yeah, actually Setsuna would be best girl in 97% of every anime series.
The problem is that she ended being against Kazusa who is pretty much perfect.
>>143837712
Yeah pretty much perfect except for having no morals.
>>143837618
Nice strawman you have found.
How about you say what is wrong with
>The only requirement for story to be considered a harem is to have multiple girls romantically and/or sexually interested in one guy as one of the major focus points.
Because none of the series labeled as harem that I have watched/read contradicts it.
Right now your argumentation is
>anon's definition of harem is not the same as mine
>thus he haven't watched harem anime
which is a major fallacy. Nothing about what harem is or isn't. So if you are going to repeat it once more, just stay silent.
>>143837925
Something something love overcomes everything
>>143838300
It's not a strawman when you keep clearly indicating you haven't watched harem anime.
>How about you say what is wrong with
I never said there's anything wrong with it.
>anon's definition of harem is not the same as mine
Your definition is simply wrong.
>>143837925
>/a/ talking bout morals
>>143838510
I'm not a spokesperson for /a/.
>>143838373
>I never said there's anything wrong with it.
Maybe, but a moment later:
>Your definition is simply wrong.
So, what is wrong with it?
>>143838671
I didn't say there's anything wrong with it.
If you think there's some kind of discrepancy here, it might be because you've forgotten a post you made earlier. What do you think it could be?
This is the dumbest argument I've seen in a long time.
>>143838771
You are not the most communicative person I have ever met. Maybe you should try making your own point more often and focus less on repeating "you are wrong".
>>143833021
Here's the original post. You claim it doesn't fit "harem genre". I claim that yes, it does, because
>The only requirement for story to be considered a harem is to have multiple girls romantically and/or sexually interested in one guy as one of the major focus points.
which condition my original post meets.
Now, you keep saying that I'm wrong, without pointing out where exactly I'm wrong or providing any counterarguments. And "you haven't watched harem anime, because I say so" is not even an argument to begin with.
I was hoping you were trolling, but then this discussion would be amusing and it is not.
>>143828503
The day they release CC and Coda adaptation would be the happiest day of my life.
>>143839417
>You claim it doesn't fit "harem genre".
I claim it's not a definition of the genre or what the genre is supposed to be like, and it isn't. If you think otherwise it just means you've never watched harem anime.
>>143839506
>what the genre is supposed to be like
And who's the one to decide that?
Also keep in mind that I didn't say that my idea is something that would sell or please the audience watching current harems.
Amusingly, you keep telling me that I've never seen a harem, but there are harem series that take completely different approaches. Maybe you're the one who hasn't seen anything other than "oblivious beta MC surrounded by girls".
>>143839859
>And who's the one to decide that?
The Japanese.
>there are harem series that take completely different approaches
Nobody said there aren't.
>Maybe you're the one who hasn't seen anything other than "oblivious beta MC surrounded by girls".
Maybe you're projecting.
>>143839970
Well then, it doesn't change the fact that what I wrote is a harem story, since it has a harem in it and whether it fits the spirit of true Japanese harem cartoon doesn't bother me even a bit.
Also preferences of nips have nothing to do with series being considered good here on /a/.
>>143840515
It's your idea of what harem anime is supposed to be like, not what harem anime is actually like.
>Also preferences of nips have nothing to do with series being considered good here on /a/.
This has nothing to do with anything.
>>143840651
>It's your idea of what harem anime is supposed to be like, not what harem anime is actually like.
What else would it be, if I said that - in my opinion - harem series are generally bad, and to be good - in my opinion - they would have to meet certain conditions.
>>143841088
I.e. "Harem anime should not be harem anime, but something else. Because I don't like it." Here's an idea: go fucking watch something else.
>>143841157
And yet, I still have a right to have an opinion and say that harem anime are in general shit and my idea is better.
Goodnight.
>>143841277
>I still have a right to have an opinion
Nobody cares.
wa2 fans claiming once again, despite their small numbers, are just as cancerous as any big fanbase.
Any chance to ask Sekai Project for a steam localization?
>>143842206
The autists bickering in here aren't WA2 fans.
>>143844321
Yeah, just tell them on twitter
>>143837925
I don't blame her as much as Haruki for that. He didn't even have the courtesy of confronting his girlfriend before running off to another girl.
