Berserk fags need to read a real Seinen
At least Berserk is updating.
>>143721504
It should stop updating, it's obvious he doesn't give a shit about it anymore after he allowed this garbage to happen. Hope to god Vagabond never gets an anime.
>>143721608
>Hope to god Vagabond never gets an anime.
You and I both.
>>143721395
It's funny.
Inoue is so good at so many things.
Then he tries to draw a fight scene and you realize that Samura makes him look like a child.
If Samura bothered to put half as much work into his manga as he did into his torture porn, there wouldn't even be an argument.
Vagabond is overrated. Read the better best art samurai manga.
I like Vagabond but I think the actual book Musashi is the better read so far as that story goes.
>>143723426
My nigga
>>143721395
That's not Blade of The Immortal
>>143723760
>I think the actual book Musashi is the better read so far as that story goes.
Wow, someone else has this same view as me.
Musashi in Vagabond, although very humane, is nothing like the real Musashi either. If you read the book of seven rings, you can tell that Musashi was a very pragmatic man, who won because he only trained endlessly and use every possible way to win. His famous double sword is a literal representation of his philosophy.
>why have one small sword that you don't use hidden the entire fight? Use everything at your disposal
Like, he went to fight some legendary fighter called the Monster of the East, or something, (it's the deaf guy in Vagabond) who had a long sword and waited an hour for Musashi to come. Musashi came late with nothing but a wooden stick and beat his to death.
Musashi, in his book, talks about not making fancy dances or other shit, just focus on being the best and quickest while sharpening your skills.
In the manga, you get nothing of that feeling. He's just humane and that's all there is to him.
Boring.
>>143721608
whats the girl staring at?
>>143721395
But does Vagabond have a wise magical negro like Berserk?
>>143724116
Donovan did nothing wrong.
Not objective the best but I like it. However I really fear the day this gets an anime adaptation and the fanbase on /a/ goes from around 15 people to /jojo/ general tier.
>>143724164
Is it finished yet? Thinking about re-reading. I really enjoy the cast for this one.
I also like how the artist was an assistant to Nihei too, it really shows.
>>143724196
Should finish this year, En's alive and fighting Kaiman/Ai/Kai/Whateveritactuallyfuckingis
for real this time it's gonna finish this volume
>>143721504
>No Real
>No Vagabond even though it's on the last arc
What the fuck happened?
>>143721395
Both are really good, don't be a faggot
>>143724331
Vagabond isn't epic.
God tier manga art thread?
>>143721395
Real is better than Vagabond anyway.
>>143724548
>God Tier
>Links one of the latest chapters
The art was much better before Thorfin went full faggot
>>143721395
>>143724331
>>143724548
>Vagabond
>Berserk
>Vinland Saga
All top-notch art style mangas. Impossible to say one better than other among those... If you try to say so, either you are baiting, or retarded...
>>143724921
Blade of The Immortal >>>All three Samura=GOD
>>143724548
RIP Yami no Matsuei
why even ask
art isn't objective and what people find the best isn't either.
and to provoke people who like Kentaro Miuras' art also?
man this thread started out pretty darn shitty 2/10 only for the chance of someone recommending something new to read.
>>143723787
I wish Samura actually cared about his manga, and not about murdering prostitutes and sketching the bodies in his basement.
>>143725033
Samura = lazy.
He'd be the greatest of all time if he wasn't so fucking inconsistent.
>>143721395
I like both, which is the need to face everything with everything?, you can't be happy without conflict for ONE JUST ONE FUCKING TIME IN THIS FUCKING LIFE ?
Even Japan knows that Inoue is better.
>tfw Berserk second place
>tfw Inoue is a 10/10 and Miura is an ugly nerd
All you need is kill has some high tier art style as well.
>>143724019
It's Kojiro, Musashi carves the oar of the boat he's riding into a long wooden sword to match the length of Kojiro's sword, washing pole.
>>143725414
>>143721395
get the fuck out scrub. you don't know anime
>>143724921
>mangas
>...
Kill yourself.
>>143721395
>Objectively the best art in Manga
That's debateable
>>143721608
>that webm
Mah boi
>>143721395
>samurai manga
>good
kek, watch Seven Samurai, nerd.
>tfw want to buy all of Berserk, Vinland Saga, Akira, Vagabond and Jojoniums but english subbed manga is expensive as fuck.
Guess i'll stick to buying 3-4 volumes a month
>Moeserk
>Farmland Saga
>Hiatusbond
>Edge of the Edgemortal
>good
>>143721608
GUTS MA MOI
>>143726650
You forgot Hisnorie.
>>143721395
sorry i dont like anime shit
>>143726412
>male nipples
>in japanese drawn entertainment
What is this witchcraft?
>>143726891
An absurdly detailed and hyper-realistic style of manga
>>143725423
That's hilarious
>my sword isn't as long as yours
>oh I know, I'll just cut a long branch
>alright, now we're even
>>143721395
True.
>>143725220
10 STAR POST, M8 B8 MASTUR8 FAMPAI LMAO TO KUCK
>>143726925
This is not looking particularly "hyper-realistic" to me.
Personally, I think it's all about the composition, rather than the actual quality of the art.
>>143721395
sorry but you need this
>>143721395
Pretty sure pic related blows everything else in this thread out of the water, art and storywise.
>>143726925
>>143728166
It's very detailed, but don't call it realistic. That just makes you look like a 'tard, since it's quite obviously still rather stylized. Realism doesn't look like that at all.
>this fucking chink only went from weekly to bi-weekly because he had kids and wants time to raise them right
I don't know if this guy would even qualify considering it's not manga, but I believe having a steady release rate ought to count for something.
>>143728439
it's hyper realistic in terms of a manga/comic.
You're being a tard for not realizing that.
"HUURR DURRR DOESN'T LOOK VERY REALISTIC TO ME"
The reason it doesn't reach hyper-realistic levels you'd see in drawings or paintings is because it's not one image, the mangaka has to draw pages upon pages of this stuff.
You've got to view it in a manga setting.
Innocent is by far the most realistic it has ever gotten in a manga.
>>143728166
......context?
>>143728639
sex scene between 2 affluent members of society in their own house.
>>143721395
Boring story, though. Artwise they're equal. Vagabond fans really have a stick up their ass.
>>143728621
Doesn't he use photos to make his backgrounds, textures etc rather than just drawing them? In which case it's about as realistic as black and white art can get. And if not, he's just crazy skilled.
But what I love most about Innocent is how he mixes in unrealistic/fantasy elements too for the sake of symbolism, it looks great. I like it a lot more than KnH, which was so dark it was sometimes difficult to see the details clearly.
Manga with my favorite art.
>>143728891
>Doesn't he use photos to make his backgrounds, textures etc rather than just drawing them?
He must because the buildings he draws look identical to historical buildings in France
>>143728933
Blame is so fucking good.
Too bad the volumes are really rare now.
>>143728621
Then you should have qualified it in the first place by saying "[...] for a comic". I'm more than aware of the limitations of having a deadline for art, my man. Anyway, the image you posted (and the manga in general) exagerates lighting very heavily to make use of the natural qualities of black & white contrast. This by itself is enough to differentiate it from art attempting to be realistic by instead trying to be larger-than-life, more dramatized. The proportions and stylization of anatomical details and such IS relatively realistic (excluding the lips) relative to most other comics, I'll give you that.
You should probably not go mouthing off at me for making a mistake that you yourself made. Also stop strawmanning people's arguments by typing it in caps with a bunch of HURRRs as if they're a loud autist, since again, it makes you look like a 'tard.
>>143728891
There's videos on youtube (I can't find them now) that show either him or an assistant of his drawing a background. They just used 3d assets and drew over them. They might use photos as well, I don't know, but I'd assume it's a similar case as with Asano where he's using them to reach higher levels of detail rather than as a lazy shortcut.
>>143729134
>Also stop strawmanning people's arguments by typing it in caps with a bunch of HURRRs as if they're a loud autist, since again, it makes you look like a 'tard.
Your argument
>"This is not looking particularly "hyper-realistic" to me."
My "strawman"
>"HUURR DURRR DOESN'T LOOK VERY REALISTIC TO ME"
I'm not too far off now am I?
Kiyoushirou Inoue and Daisuke Igarashi are both unquestionably better than Inoue or Miura.
>>143721395
Let me gues. You saw people shit on the new movie, so you throught everyone hates Berserk? That7s the contrary. Everyone is angry because this manga deserved the best Japan can do. But Vagabond? That's a dead manga people sometimes speak about because it was good very....VERY long ago.
Berserk has done as good, and even better, largely better. Its world scale only is so huge Vagabond looks like a 50 pages light novel.
The art style is excellent, and the atmosphere was immersive, but what about originality? Innovation? Research? Development of every single detail or character?
Don't make me laugh.
>>143728887
i was waiting for this
>>143729227
it's the tone that makes the difference
I'm just trying to have a civil discussion and you're makin' me look like a screaming ape. I just don't want it to turn into shitflinging is all.
>>143729123
It is going to get a hardover release in english soon
>>143728887
I don't see what there is to admire. Sincerely. This looks like shit and I'm certainly not the only one to think that.
>>143729302
>civil discussion
>implying im a tard
you can only do one.
>>143729416
There's this thing called an "art style," and since OP didn't limit the genre of art style, then anything goes. It looks good for what it is
>>143729462
Why's that?
>>143729495
your calling me a tard and not expecting me to call you one back.
>not expecting this to spiral into a flamewar/shitpost marathon.
Wow you're dumb
>>143728571
Hỏa Phụng Liêu Nguyên
Whats the alternative title to english?
>>143729416
Why do anime/mangafags struggle to understand the concept of art being good outside of detail, polish and realism? Go to a fucking art gallery once in a while, jesus christ.
Legit question:
How long would it take me to reach this kind of artistic level without falling into the infamous deviantart quality?
>>143729520
The Ravages of Time, though I believe it's a word play on the literal translation of Fire Phoenix Scorches the Plains, which is also somewhat like a symbol of the two main protagonists.
>>143729571
Varies person to person, but mostly dedication. Most of the examples in this thread have been drawing for decades to get to the point where they're putting out what's being posted, but you'll be able to draw stuff of comparable quality within 5 years with dedication.
What makes their art good isn't so much what you're seeing, it's that they're able to draw them in a few hours in order to meet deadlines, and they're able to do that consistently for years on end.
>>143724020
Guts' punished boipussy.
>>143721395
That's just a poor mans Shigarui
>>143729571
It'll take years and years of dedicated study.
>>143724315
Inoue got bored of Vagabond, its not his story.
anyways these threads also end up realistic vs stylistic. I like realistic stuff as much as I like Takemitsu Zamurai
>>143729816
Could self study suffice? Or would i need a professional eventually?
>>143728571
Ravages has awesome art. Not just the actual drawing style (which is god tier already) but he has a way of creating really impactful, powerful pages. Admittedly half the time I don't know what's going on, but it always feels like something amazing is happening.
>>143729336
Sweet, sauce?
>>143725414
br please leave
>>143728166
>why is he pressing his knuckle into a pillow?
>wait, where did his finger go
>>143730060
thats not a pillow
>>143728621
>realism is a term used to describe something that's very detailed
please don't talk about thinks you so obviously don't know the first thing about
>>143730096
I think he realizes this, he's just letting us know what his initial thought process was.
Learn 2 greentext pls
>>143730127
I know he realizes this.
I said it anyway so I could reply.
>>143730125
Fuck off and kill yourself, you probably aren't even a fucking artist like me.
>>143730192
>you probably aren't even a fucking artist
I've always considered myself more of a businessman of fucking. Paunchy, pragmatic, and not the person you bring your money to if you're looking to have fun.
>>143730192
>>143730096
>>143728621
kill you are self
>>143730192
Ik that feel senpai
>>143730247
>I've always considered myself more of a businessman of fucking. Paunchy, pragmatic, and not the person you bring your money to if you're looking to have fun.
>>143729855
You can get good with self-study, you just have to be good at looking at your work with a critical eye and have the discipline to practice properly and as often as possible.
>>143729855
You can self stufy. School is basically just for connections in the arts. Snag yourself some online reading material to get set you in the right direction and just grind away.
Ishida is pretty good when it comes to designs and illustrations.
secondaries may leave
Make way for some real art.
>>143726412
that looks like shit
>>143730566
Ok. here's your (you)
>>143729935
It's even crazier the more you know Chinese. I say this as someone who is not even half baked as Chinese, but more like quick minute dinged in a microwave baked at Chinese. Just that little knowledge alone from like two months of chink class years ago for language studies made me appreciate those pages so much more and I'm sure I missed 90% of it.
The guy may not be able to claim he created something original, but when it comes to adaptations this guy is off the charts. And to top it off unlike most mangaka in this thread, he didn't start out as one or thought about being one. The guy was a graphics designer working in marketing and just got bored one day watching wuxia and xianxia films and said to himself "I can do better than that" and the rest is history. The guy did it literally because he was fed up with mediocrity.
>>143728891
This bloodeborne manga looks pretty good. I'll check it out.
>>143730619
I bet, and the whole time I read it I was just wishing I was Chinese so I could catch all the ways he was messing with the usual RoTK storyline. I only have basic knowledge of it from Sangokushi, so I'm sure I missed a lot.
I wish there were decent fucking scanlations too.
>>143730614
It does. Looks like everything is traced from a photo so everything looks boring
>>143730811
>It does. Looks like everything is traced from a photo so everything looks boring
Sorry lad, your opinions are literally retarded.
I can't take you seriously.
Here's another (you).
>>143730435
Ishida used to be a tattoo artist, right?
His art is real nice, shame you couldn't discuss about Tokyo Ghoul without it going the usual "utter shit/supreme masterpiece" route.
>>143730843
Innocent whatever you think of the art, the truth is the story is just boring melodrama
>>143721395
Always thought Nausicaa had sublime art.
>>143730726
I don't know I thought the scans were mostly decent at the start, it was a 2010 series in China after all I don't even think they had giant scans back then for the early volumes.
Early groups like Fiftay do a good job if you are like me and know enough that you can fill in, but I imagine that the lack of Chinese would make those early volumes grueling. Hell for me it was practically a revision course where I go "Hey, I know that word, ohhh I get it."
The golden age is definitely when HMK picked it up, they were basically Turnip Farmers on Kingdom. Merc still translates to this day, but the hole left by Ki Shodar who did proof reading, redrawing, editing, typesetting, etc etc was pretty big and also that Merc stopped buying the volumes making redrawing for Yudy a lot harder.
Then when you think about how Hox scanlated Sangokushi by himself, you gotta wonder if there's something in common with people who translate chink shit and being hyper competent on the clock.
I do wish it was more like Sangokushi, Kingdom, etc where they actually had pages where they showed the maps though, since navigating Baidu for threads connecting the various maps and events is harder than my day job.
>>143731019
For a while the scans were great, but they were pretty LQ and hard to understand at the start. Now they're terrible, there is no fucking excuse for the comic sans. Shit is fucking cancer to the eyes.
>>143731093
Yeah cause Merc stopped buying volumes, and therefore the scans are at the mercy of chinks at baidu themselves. And the guy replacing Ki Shodar only took it up cause no one else would.
The comic sans is mostly Yudy being hyper clueless and new at everything. That he a 3rd world nammer who barely knows English and only took up photoshop for Ravages is the only person willing to help Merc says a lot about the situation.
But then again I guess I'm more grateful since I'm even more clueless than he is at scanlations. I don't even know all the functions of MSPaint.
>>143730435
That's shit
Ikegami, the guy who illustrated crying freeman and sanctuary also has great art.
>Berserk is easy to animate they said
>>143731561
>Berserk won't kill the animators they said who are already underpayed
>>143731561
Probably the most impressive page in the manga, that episode's art was fantastic.
>>143731586
>Berserk doesn't need budget they said
>>143728235
Yeah, that's really important too. Some manga run on composition entirely.
I think Zetman has some really nice art. Too bad about everything else though.
>>143731670
Damn this looks really good. Is the story that bad? This was on my backlog.
>>143729123
I just couldn't read Blame. Things were happening and they looked cool, but I didn't know what the things were or what order they happened in.
>>143721395
vagabond anime when?
>>143731716
Hopefully never, unless you want something similar to the berserk anime.
>>143731742
it's easier to animate than berserk, they just need to replicate the ink brush art style
>>143730459
>mangafox
>>143731670
What are you talking about? The story is fine.
>>143731758
>they just need to replicate the ink brush art style
that's very hard to achieve
>>143730435
He's fucking terrible, fuck off back to your containment thread with your retarded opinions, Tokyoshit.
>>143731866
Not him. I don't read TG and I'm not particularly fond of the covers but I've gotta say the pages that get posted have a lot of personality and impact to them. The art seems pretty damn good, if a bit technically lacking and kind of edgy.
>>143731782
I don't know, the MC basically gets toyed with through the whole story so far. There's a reason it isn't as popular as other stuff even with the good art.
>>143732019
Popular =/= good
>>143728933
Ran is so good
>>143721608
Come on, don't you have that too sometimes? Zoning out and just staring somewhere?
The best manga art I've ever seen. It's simply perfect in every way and has a dynamism that some of the other manga in this thread lack and I say that as a huge fan of Berserk and Vagabond. I haven't even read it but the artwork is off the charts.
>>143735119
And I wasn't referring to that one image, just to clarify. I'm referring to the art from this manga in general.
>>143731742
The Shigerui anime was decent, though sparsely animated. I don't see why the same can't be done for Vagabond.
Honestly vagabond is perfectly fine without updating.
>>143721395
But you can't badmouth Berserk
>>143723426
Art is nothing special, and the story is some edgy bullshit about people competing who'd come with the most retarded way to grip a sword. You'd be better off reading Bleach.
>>143724019
>tfw the Japanese have turned Musashi into another meme
>>143735119
I don't know why you'd call it the best art, but I also think that Sei Itoh is pretty good.
Love this pervert's art
>>143735960
It has beautiful anatomy, line quality, use of contrast/values, dynamism, and form. It's just gorgeous artwork from a figure drawing standpoint. The human characters from most other great manga are so stiff looking by comparison.
>>143728571
Horse looks fat and has retarded legs
>>143729246
no. and i say this as a fan of kiyoshiro. it's not really the same. kiyoshiros strength is very different, i'd put him alongside the others, but not unquestionably better.
miura is somewhat overrated
but igarashi is for sure worse than the others art wise. he has a very loose and interesting style, but that doesn't automatically elevate him as an artist.
>>143736584
What makes you say Igarashi is worse?
>>143729828
manga ?
>>143725339
Miura is less ugly then i remember.
>>143726474
>>143726680
Hahahah
>>143721395
I thought Vagabound was a shounen.
>>143736075
You're not the only one.
>>143733114
Too bad Mc chose the annoying little sister instead of this caring, loving, busty onee-san
>>143728571
That horse is swole
>>143730563
This will forever remain an enigma for me.
>>143737271
Innocent. It is/was a weekly manga, just switched to a new magazine and went monthly.
>>143737237
his art is loose and doesn't have the same kind of finish as the others.
not that he's bad, inoue is just better.
>>143736348
You talking shit about Red Hare?
That horse did more in it's lifetime than you ever will
>>143737717
I don't agree that looseness is an inherently inferior trait.
>>143738231
I really should start reading post chains from the top and not the bottom.
>>143738231
that's not really the way to put it, but igarashi's "looseness" is just a little too loose imo. drawing like inoue is a bit harder than drawing like igarashi, as igarashi's style is simpler and easier to maintain.
for example, kiyoshirou style is "loose" as well, but his is also incredibly dynamic and hard to draw. (not to say that igarashi's is easy)
igarashi is more like tsuruta kenji in terms of technical level i guess.
they are still better than a lot of other mangaka (art wise), but not inoue.
it's probably a bit subjective, but eh.
update when ?
>>143723426
Shigurui's the overrated one, Sidooh's better than it
Alternatively just read Blade of the Immortal
>>143721395
It's all a matter of taste but one thing that stands out above any other manga out there is the level of detail of Gon, nothing comes close, every single panel has the level of work and detail of a double spread.
>>143739197
ded comic.
>>143739197
it's finished m8
>>143721395
as much as i like vagabond
inoue needs to finish it
>>143729571
At least 10 years of dedication, self loathing, suffering and a lot of hard work.
>>143739197
It's an adaptation/advertisement of some novels
so basically, you have to read the novels for the rest of it
>>143739427
>Gon is getting a CG anime
>>143726310
Mangos
imma old fag nao xd
>>143740292
The plural of manga is manga you baiting bitch
>>143738742
>drawing like inoue is a bit harder than drawing like igarashi, as igarashi's style is simpler and easier to maintain.
That's not really a line of thinking I think is conducive to art criticism. Thinking on how much effort the artist put in or how difficult the drawing was pushes you into dangerous territory of speculation and assumption.
>>143725414
Done by the guy who did deathnote.
Surprisingly good mechanical consistency.
>>143740134
Didn't Bastard get fully re-drawn by the artist because his style changed so much? I've never seen uploaded versions of the redone versions
>>143735271
The Shigurui anime was perfect.
The sparsity made it even better by showing how quick the fights would be in reality. In the manga, the fights took awhile, because of all the keikaku. In the anime, you see the whole thing with any narrations and it's amazing.
>>143740700
well in art it's really hard to tell "who is better?" when both artists are competent and professional. that's why i only judge based on who is more technically skilled.
but yeah you're right. this can be dangerous. when i try to define it my logic becomes kind of wonky.
but then again i don't see any other way around it. every other way is even more subjective.
that being said, comparing great artists to each other is retarded anyway.
>>143564712
Linking here so I can open it in clover
>>143735960
What's the manga in pic related called? Search didn't give me anything but a Chinese mangafox.
>>143740917
I haven't found anything either. It also doesn't seem to likely.
>>143741989
Monster Collection
>>143741989
I'm a fucking idiot for putting a Berserk image there, I meant your pic. >>143735960
>>143742121
Thanks.
>>143730989
fucking claustrophobic. Garbage paneling
breadin in a toast shed
>>143742327
Sorry you have trouble reading a comic bro, but not all of us are comic illiterate.
>>143743947
That shits just uncanny valley tier
>>143729828
But Vagabond is his story, it has plenty of changes from the source material. He could come with a completely different ending if he wanted too.
Posting good art in a good art thread.
>>143725220
Why do you keep posting this shit? Most of Samura's stuff isn't torture shit, I honestly think it's the same anon posting the same shit over and over.
>>143721608
Even fucking RWBY has better animation than this
Morita is God. Makes sense since he was assistant to the GOAT manga artist Tetsuo Hara.
>>143723426
>>143723787
>Best samurai manga with best art
>Not Lone Wolf & Cub
Being really detailed is not theonly thing which makes art good.
>>143721608
REAL is a better manga than both berserk and vagabond, drop the fantasy/combat bullshit slice of life a superior genre.
>>143745330
I'm not reading a manga about cucks and cripples lmaooo
>>143745330
>Slice of lice
Yeah, I also love when nothing is happening.
>>143735189
series?
>>143733114
That isn't anywhere near the best art, it has a nice color palette but the dress is drawn on way too tight, in a way that makes it look like it is fusing to her skin. Her waist is too small in proportion to the thickness of the rest of her body.
>>143731711
Try to read it till the end or start with the more or less offical prequel that happens before Blame. It really worth it.
>>143746691
>Slice of lice
>lice
>>143740268
It already had one, or a movie I think.
>>143740917
Yeah it did, he might still be doing it, going back and taking out every 80's hair style and smoothing everything down to shit, it's really sad.
>>143750977
>not wanting to read a manga about a chef who prepares slices of lice for a living
>>143721395
how about you just read the Yoshikawa novel, pleb?
>>143740926
Wait you're saying they don't slash once and then explain what they did for 5 minutes?
BOTH ARE ON FUCKING HIATUS GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
>>143728621
You realize hyper-realism is an actual style, right? It's not just some random qualifier you apply to anything that looks more realistic than some other thing. There has never been a hyperrealistic manga.
Someone explain to me why /a/ has such a boner for gritty, realistic artstyles?
As far as art goes I find it much more impressive when artists manage to find an iconic style that's instantly recognizable, even if it's a simple minimalist one.
>>143753236
Because it takes more work/time, and /a/ is obsessed with the idea that effort is quality.
>>143753236
It's more about fitting the tone. I can pick details out of a single panel of berserk for example for a minute or more at a time. I can scroll past what you posted and get pretty much everything I need out of it, but that's fine if the dialogue is the focus or whatever.
>>143721608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTv1COUPhDo
>>143739197
>mangafox shitters are waiting for updates of a manga that ended eight years ago and was fully scanlated over a year ago
>mangafox shitters aren't reading the artists' current manga instead
Sasuga
>>143721395
Bitch please
>>143728933
Is is actually some pretty solid taste in art, not the whole "muh details, muh realism" shit /a/ worships.
>>143753001
The manga is basically
>both fighter look at the other
>think
>reposition themselves
>calculate best move
>slow move
>narration of the move
>slash
>slow pan of the cut
Anime
>same shit
>but without narration
>all within the span of a second real time
There's no discussion, no monologue, just BAM, and death. The anime feels brutal and realistic as though you were there yourself while the manga is told more as a historical feat where the reader can see what happened.
It's perfect.
>>143753329
Of course it's about fitting the tone. I'm not arguing that Berserk isn't well-drawn.
My question is why every time there's a thread like this it's always shit like Berserk and Vagabond that gets posted immediately, instead of manga with more stylized art.
>>143753278 was an fine answer.
>>143753807
What I was trying to convey is that you're more likely to spend time looking at the detail pieces so you're more likely to remember them. I really enjoy YKK for example, but I spent less time looking at the panels so I would probably think of something like Berserk or Vinland Saga first.
I'm amazed that Raiku kept his old style from Gash for the art in Vector Ball after the stuff he pulled in Doubutsu.
>>143753935
On the other hand, I would argue that it's easier to remember something iconic and unique, but to each their own I guess.
>>143753236
/a/ has no fucking clue about art. As in, the actual concept of art itself, they know less than most high school students learn in their first art lesson (because I distinctly remember learning straight off the bat that it's hard to even define art). As a result, they have an insanely limited idea of what makes it good or bad. It has to be detailed, clean and realistic or apparently it's no good, regardless of how effectively it conveys the story.
>>143735119
What's manga is that from? Googles giving me nothing
>>143753278
>/a/ is obsessed with the idea that effort is quality.
I've noticed this, too, and not just for art but also for stories/content. Anons really do tend to fixate on the process behind a thing (how hard it is, how much talent it would require, whether the creators got lucky or "earned" it, etc.) rather than just judging on the effect/end product.
>>143754065
That's definitely true as well. Yoji Shinkawa is fantastic. I like Akihiki Yoshida as well.
>>143724164
>Dorohedoro's fanbase
>around 15 people
What? I think most of /a/ has read it. Certainly the majority of people who actually read any real amount of manga have read it.
>>143754361
People who just discovered Dorohedoro recently likes to think that they've found some rare niched series that only they know.
The next question will be "Why's there never any threads about it?" and the answer will be the usual "There are, they just die out like every other manga thread".
>>143754485
God, I love Tsuruta's art.
>>143729267
>>143721395
>MAKE WAY FOR THE KING
>>143754485
also because we get a new chapter every 2 months
since this is the single manga thread up, been thinking ordering a volume or two of Gantz, anyone know if i should bother?
heard the ending sucked or something...
Kanna endo or Anna liebert
>>143724921
Early 'weekly' VS was shit.
>>143735189
What is this? I cannot find it.
>>143755134
Read it online and decide for yourself, dumbass
>>143755290
i have a job and can afford and prefer physical, so...
>>143753716
It WOULD be perfect if it didnt end right before the best fight in the series
