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Will Yuuya be able to open Isao's dark heart?
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When will she allow the 4 yuyas to meet each other?
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>>143660369
When bracelet tells her its Nasch time
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>>143660264
Isao is Yuya's failure that Mieru predicted, calling it right the fuck now.
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What went wrong?
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>>143660696
The kid that promised to make him EGAO decided instead to fill him with fear and make him look like a complete novice at the same time.
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Reminder that Xyz arc was shit from the beginning and leaving Xyz as quickly as possible was the correct move.

Reminder that we now have ~30 episodes for Fusion and can hopefully get a conclusion that's not rushed as fuck
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>>143660813
Amen to that
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>>143660696
syncro arc
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>>143660813
35 eps left including 113
That's a solid chunk of time for a climax + ending
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>>143660264
I want Yuya to teach me the ways of egao by filling me with his egao juice while we duel, and I happen to be not a very forgiving piece of fusion scum.
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>>143660519
Can you imagine Mieru's flashback?
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All of the Yuus are in Fusion.

It's time.

time for more delicious ono screaming
WARERA GA HITOTSU NI
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>>143660813
Leaving Xyz was smart but it was handled terribly and rushed. The show has no bite, the villains have no bite. The villains have no damn credibility.
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>Dennis uses 5 cards to push for a OTK
>Yusho uses 2 cards to completely stop the OTK,bail and make Dennis look like a greenhorn all the same time

Ha, go back to boardway loser. This is Entame country.
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Reminder that separating Yuya and Yuzu again ended up being completely pointless.
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>>143661073
Doesn't the bracelet send them back to their dimension of origin, which is how she got to Synchro in the first place?
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>>143661289
Do we finally know what kind of monster his weird Ringholder Magician-thing is? At least its ATK or level?
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>>143661500
It's always been inconsistent.

It sent Yuto all over Maiami. It sent both Yugo and Yuri to Fusion.
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>>143661822
nope. he used a shittier magical hats, revealed a weird spell from hand, then bailed.
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Yuya: I agree with what Yuto said as well.

Edo: There’s a way to return those who have been turned into cards back to normal.

Kaito: Eh?

Yuya: Is that true?

Edo: Carding is a means to gather the life energy of the people.
>I heard that when the new utopia is created, everyone will be reborn there.

>mfw Leo was planning on turning everyone into cards, fusing the dimensions and letting Hitotsu-Ni loose, defeating the Genesis Omega Dragon by using the four Ruris to seal it away, and then bring everyone back to a stabilized harmonious world where there would be no destruction
>mfw Yusho and Reiji are the bad guys
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>>143661904
>Manga plotlines
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>>143661904
OH SHIT
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>>143661904
>Yusho and Reiji are the bad guys
>stopping the loop of the universe resetting is bad
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>>143662235
Expect Leo might be the one who is stopping everything from repeating itself while Yusho and Reiji are unintentionally wanting to let the hypothetical cycle continue.
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>>143662271
But in letting the dimensions fuse and universe reset what really is there to stop Hitotsu-ni and GOD from being reborn in the next universe, as they appear to have been in the manga. If anything keeping Hitotsu-ni and the Yu's separate is better than unleashing the complete being, as what appears to have happened in the manga.
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>>143660696
Parents throwing their kids into a hole.

But not all holes are filled with EGAOs
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I'm so fucking hype.
Fuck the haters, best YGO series.
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>>143660754
>> make him look like a complete novice at the same time

He did that to himself by being one, level 0 come on.
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>>143661904
Come on, let Yuto go already you stupid tomato!
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Ruri
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>>143662366
Nigga I'm gonna blow your goddamn mind here okay.
Solid Vision with Mass was created by both Leo and Yusho. Solid Vision with Mass means that everything suddenly exists when the machine is used in the form of hard light -- magma will burn your flesh, cold mountains are chilly, jungles are humid, and monsters are real.

In the manga, Ren, EVE's disciple, states that Leo and Yusho both caused the World Illusion event. What that literally implies is that it was something that caused the whole world to be fooled by something that isn't even real.

What follows next is only speculation, but it's the only determining factor I have about how the anime will have a BAD END and the manga is new game plus. Why is it that Reiji, in the manga, "appears out of nowhere"? Why does Ren look so similar to Reiji? Where are Yusho and Leo? Why are Yuto, Yugo and Yuri destroying Yuya's memories? How does Reiji know Yuya would use G.O.D. to destroy the world?

Because in the anime, Yuya WILL use Genesis Omega Dragon to destroy the world. EGAO is being so forced on us right now to make us hate EGAO itself, but when Yuya will finally drop it, when he finally loses his shit, Yuya is going to destroy everything. Yuto, Yugo, and Yuri are going to wipe his memories so he can't remember what he did. They're going to wipe his memories so he can't find that card again and do what he's meant to do. And to keep the illusion up, Leo and Yusho are going to make Solid Vision counterparts of everyone to make the world seem alive, that nothing has changed, that everything is where it should be for Yuya, all while trying to find a way to bring the world back. And the whole Solid Vision system, the entire World Illusion, is being monitored by EVE and her disciples that look just like Reiji, while Reiji himself tries to capture Yuya himself, and lock him away so he can't cause any more harm.
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>>143662708
Reminder that it's only natural to love your sister.
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>>143662827
of course
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>>143662779
The writers don't have balls to make a BAD END. If they do, I will print my post and eat it.
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>>143663030
Prove it. Photo with timestamp of someplace in your home where you'll eat the post if there's a BAD END.
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>>143663030
Aaaaand screenshotted
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Does anybody here have any fan art of Isao? I just found out I only have 2 images. He's surprisingly hard to find.
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>>143663666
>>satanic trips

This is not gonna end well.
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>>143663115
It's a tomato and my handwriting, bring it, Satan!
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>>143663947
LEWD
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>>143663947
That's a cute tomato you drew there anon.
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>>143663947
>>143664078
>eating it for anon
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>>143664078
With level 0 returning, maybe they can sneak Mieru in there for at least a short cameo...r-right?
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>yfw the true ending of the anime story is going to be at the end of the manga
>yfw the anime is only a setup for the manga
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>>143662779
>Yfw Yuzu is Solid Vision
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>>143664721
Smells like bullshit
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>>143664633
No, it will be possible to take the manga as a continuation of the anime in some cosmic sense, but they are standalone stories.


The anime will just have a BAD END
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and finally live up to its destiny.
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>>143664437
Aoo Yuki is too expensive, it is unlikely.
I wish level 0 join in the party, we need someone replace Shun in the factor of beating with some punchs.
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>>143664721
>Yugo: "Wait... That girl, is she...!"
>Yuto: "It seems Yuya hasn't noticed."
Manga confirms Yuya kills Yuzu and in the manga she's just a Solid Vision projection.
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>>143660264
Wowe wow wow wow. What the fuck is this shit. Now Isao has powers?
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>>143664804
This is some Uncanny Valley bullshit. Please delete.
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Damn next week is so hype. This show keeps getting better and better. Hope Yuya shows Isao the power of EGAO.
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>>143664844
Probably just a card effect.
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>>143664804
remember when being yuya was suffering?
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>>143664844
Isao please continue your strategy of physically beating the verloving shit out of your opponent.
Please revert Yuya to Berserk mode and have Bracelet shenanigans and advance the plot.
I have too many expectations for the next episode thanks to the title.
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>>143664844
Card effect, probably something about trading LP for ATK.
It would be nice if we get some explanation about hitotsu-ni.
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>>143664804
Now if only we could go back to this level of suffering instead of EGAO SOLVES EVERYTHING
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>>143665128
Synchro had tons of Hitoshi Ni and people bitched baout it, now Yuya's back to being Mr. Egao and people still bitch, what does /a/rc-v want?

Anyway i believe it's the calm before the storm. Either Isao, Bennis or Yuri will awakens Yuya's dark side with a vengeance soon enough. It wouldn't be as fun if it happened every episode.
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>>143664844
Chronomoly Atlandis
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>>143665261
The only reason I don't want Yuya to regress to edge is because it'll give a reason for people to call him a hypocrite despite wanting him to go full edge, so I don't mind the entame to be honest.
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>>143665261
>tons of Hitoshi Ni
You're kidding, right? Yuya "synchronizing" with Yugo during the latter's duels were extremely tame, Yuya vs. Crow was a boring duel and Hitotsu Ni didn't even really have much consequence outside of the duel itself, and finally when shit actually starts with all 4 Yus gathered together, it ends up as a cocktease thanks to bracelet-kun; again, nothing happens. It's gotten to the point where Hitotsu Ni doesn't even seem like a major plot point anymore, it's just kind of there.
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>>143664437
Now that Isao is coming back literally anything is possible. I wouldn't be even surprised if Eita appears. But personally would like the black girl and that bayblade looking dude to appear again.
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>>143665512
>black girl
She's middle eastern, retard.
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>>143665375
Why couldn't best girl be a returning character.
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>>143665497
Hitoshi Ni doesn't have a real personality other than mad, murderous rage, though, not much can be done with it before shit hits the fan other than teasing. Yuya's connection to his other selves in general has been a major part of the plot, Hitoshi Ni is just the darkest Yuya personality which doesn't have a corresponding dimension that we know of, they can't revel too much about him without revealing more about the nature of the dimensions and Leo's plan, which is the endgame.
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Mai waifu is a LVL8 Vanilla Dragon Tuner now!
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>>143662779
Seems more like an alt bad end.

Anime will be EGAO CONQUERS ALL but the manga just chose edge is best
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>>143665726
Imagine Berserk.
Imaging Guts as a woman and instead of demons it's dragons.
That's your waifu.
Good job, loser.
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>>143665261
How can his dark side awaken when Yuzu is standing right there? People bitched that Hitotsu Ni didn't do shit in Synchro and got cucked by Yuzu. People bitch about Egao because it ruins potential characters and story arcs. This whole trip to Synchro was shit. Academia has been reduced to shitty villains who can't keep any of their named characters. Everything is resolved too neatly due to rushing the arc. Nobody from Academia is threatening at all.
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>>143665787
Yuri still is, the only reason he hasn't fucked everyone's shit yet is bracelet-kun and bracelet-kun only.

Dennis might well end up fucking up the You-show crew a lot too.

The academia forces in the XYZ dimension have been kind of a letdown, though, but that should have been expected the second we found out Edo was their commander. But I really think that once the Lancers get to academia proper and the truth about arc area and Hitoshi Ni starts to be revealed and people get carded by Leo and Academia's strongest soldiers it will get real interesting.
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>>143664986
>I have too many expectations for the next episode thanks to the title

Probably best not to. Look what happened to "Memories of the Beast"
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>>143665787
Yuri is.
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>>143665546
Do you really want to see ARC-V run perfectly good characters into the ground?
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>>143665787
Edgelord Yuya would make Academia even less of threats.

Kaito and Shun in full REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE mode are pretty much sues
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>>143666046
What's the worst they can do to III? Xyz Shinji is pretty hard to top
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So do we all still agree even with some of the slight hiccups, Arc-V is still the best overall series with best story and characters. Like who expected Isao to show up but he has that small connection to Yuya to make him relevant enough to come back. It's so subtle and genius.
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>>143665726
So is that card just meant to give Blue-Eyes access to Bishbaalkin/Tzolkin? Can't imagine anything else it could be used for.
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>>143666046
True, without all the family stuff, it wouldn't really be III. But I do want more OOPArts.
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>>143666171
Pretty much

>Chaos MAX piercing through Bishbalkin token

Skill on a bun
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>>143666146
I agree, well, I think it's about as good as 5ds. great series marred by a portion which dragged on for too long and didn't advance the plot much. Though I think as far as lows in YGO series go, Synchro wasn't that bad and if arc-v had a longer run time and space for filler arcs, Synchro would have been a fun one.

It's definitely better than DM, GX and Zexal IMO.
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>>143666017
Yuri has only beaten fodder. He's not threatening. Especially since he gets teleported whenever he tries to do anything. His deck is shit too. His boss is great but the rest of his monsters are garbage.

How is Edo being the commander an indication of them being disappointing? Edo was awesome in GX. Arc-V Edo is a joke but we didn't know that until after he dueled. You guys make ridiculous excuses for this show.
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>>143666146
I never agreed with that and it's my least favorite series. The Xyz arc just cemented that.
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>>143665546
Then they'd have to include IV and V and Tron, and they couldn't have their normal decks due to a lack of numbers monsters. That's 4 new decks, or at least 4 remade decks.
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>>143666171
Level Eater shenanigans.
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>>143666380
>Arc-V
>Better than DM

DM only has 1.5 good arcs and its more stable than Arc-V
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>>143666383
I don't make "excuses", I enjoy it and that's my prerogative, and I'm just explaining my view of it. If you hate it and think it sucks you're free to do so. In the end we're just discussing different kinds of children's card game commercials, not exactly high art with strict quality standards, I imagine different people find enjoyment in very different aspects of the series.
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>>143666146
I'm not completely sure. The DM Anime bored me to death after the Kaiba Tourtnament. GX low point was the second season but everything else was pretty much ok. Never saw 5DS or Zexal. Arc-V is still very enjoyable for me. I like the plot, characters and i think Yuya is one if not the most realistic character in the Franchise. Each Series has its own flaws so i can't say which one was better honeslty.
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>>143666533
Saying that we should have been prepared for disappointment for the Academia soldiers because Edo was the commander is making excuses. Why would we be prepared to be disappointed because of that? He was a cameo character with an incredibly popular archetype that beat the main character of his show while being chuuni as fuck.
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>>143666517
>1.5 good arcs
The three main Arcs of DM were Duelist Kingdom, Battle City and Millennium World and all of them were well written.
The rest like Virtual World, KC grand Prix, DOMA and especially Capsule Monsters all belong in the trash
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>>143666665
>>one if not the most realistic character in the Franchise.

I don't know about realistic, but there's one thing I love about Yuya that many anons seem to hate, which is that he loses duels. The fact that he has been BTFO by Reiji, Jack and Barrett/Sergey makes his duels seem more dangerous, combined with the fact that Hitoshi Ni is a dick that gives Yuya no additional dueling proficiency, it makes for more exciting duels. Compare it with Atem's heart of the cards game breaking bollocks, Judai's monster spirit cheating/Yubel, Yusei's crimson dragon and Yuma's dueling robot naked ghost buddy.

>>143666710
I thought it pretty obvious the nostalgia characters weren't going to be villains. And Edo did duel Yuya to a draw, if Yuya had lost he would have gotten carded and the series would be over. He's still chuuni as fuck with smile world reeee and ultimately he had to get redeemed just like his original version.
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>>143666944
I don't think Millenium World is well written, it was kind of a letdown considering how much setup it had, it ultimately didn't explain the flashbacks or deliver all the answers it should have, and it messily rushed pretty important stuff like Priest Seto and Kisara's relationship and the duel between Seto and the Pharaoh, and it did a crap job at explaining Zorc, Bakura and their motivations.

The ceremonial duel afterwards was pretty niche tho.
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>>143667090
Nice* not, niche
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>>143666976
Heart of the cards is a dub line. and Judai never used his spirits to cheat. Yuya had Yuto top deck him a brand new card against Edo and Yuya busts out Action Cards all the time. Yuya isn't the first protagonist to lose either.
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>>143667144
>>Heart of the cards is a dub line

I know, but the same bullshit is present is the nip version, it's just not named.
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>>143667144
Action cards aren't unrealistic though. Their existence are justified before the duel. Still an asspull? Yes.
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>>143667144
Yugi only lost in filler, Judai lost one duel in filler and one plot-relevant one, Yusei never lost except in a flashback, Yuma lost one plot-important duel, Yuya has lost one filler duel and three plot relevant ones. He definitely feels more vulnerable than previous MCs.
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>>143666976
>I thought it pretty obvious the nostalgia characters weren't going to be villains.

That doesn't mean he has to be a bitch and that doesn't mean every other Academia character in Xyz should switch sides on a whim. We didn't even get a single Academia soldier questioning it. They just did it and not a single Xyz Dimension character was against it. N

>And Edo did duel Yuya to a draw, if Yuya had lost he would have gotten carded and the series would be over.

Or Yuya could still get smashed into debris and Edo couldn't find him. Or someone could have come by and saved Yuya. or any number of things could have happened instead of Edo being a scrub.


>He's still chuuni as fuck with smile world reeee and ultimately he had to get redeemed just like his original version.

He didn't get redeemed. He didn't even do anything on screen that was redeem worthy. We don't know if he's carded anybody or not. He just kicked and screamed like a child until the main character beat him up. It's hilarious how people thought Academia soldiers were brainwashed and yet not a single one has shown signs of that. They have no loyalty to Leo or Academia. They just do what they want. They're shit villains. Edo is a shit character and both he and the twins are disappointing as was this whole arc.
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>>143666146
>Like who expected Isao to show up but he has that small connection to Yuya to make him relevant enough to come back. It's so subtle and genius.
Is this what they call false flagging?
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>>143667276
>filler

GX was all canon. Judai lost multiple times. Kaiser, Kaibaman, Edo and tied with O'Brien. Kaiser, and Yubel twice.

>>143667226
Always getting an Action Card that will help you out of the exact situation you're in is bullshit. Especially when opponents don't know about them. You're playing by a different set of rules from them.
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>>143667478
Hence why I said it's still an asspull. The concept itself is more realistic than creating cards.
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>>143667550
All main characters create cards. What do you think happens when they asspull new extra deck monsters?
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>>143667648
>All main characters create new cards

This is true. I wasn't denying that.
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>>143667648
To be fair, the original manga didn't have Atem or Yugi creating any cards.
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I think you should be fixated on the people chasing after you Yuzu
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>>143667818
>Right eye is smaller than the left eye
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>>143667818
This animation makes its look like she is retarded.
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>>143667818
Now post Yuya's reaction.
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>>143667783
Isn't Black Skull Dragon in the manga and first summoned by Atem? He summoned a card that uses a material that he doesn't even have.
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>>143667949
>material he doesn't have

He used Jounouchi's Red-Eyes and his Summoned Skull in the tag duel.
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>>143667988
You're missing the point. He didn't own both materials for Black Skull. Why would he randomly have that monster in his deck when Jounochi just got Red-Eyes earlier in the arc and they're on an island that doesn't sell cards?
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>>143668068
In the manga, fusion monsters aren't real cards, they're just representations of what the fusion monster would look like.
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>>143667945
Yuya?! Reee
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>>143668177
Yeah I know that fusions aren't physical cards in the manga but how does summoning them work then? Is there some way that the characters know that you can fuse two monsters together?
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>>143667090
>it ultimately didn't explain the flashbacks or deliver all the answers it should have
Yes it did.
Bakura's hatred for Atem stemmed from the fact that his village was murdered to make the Millennium Items and he rounded them all back up to make a contract with Zorc which resulted into Atem sealing his name to seal himself with Zorc away.
It also gave the origins of Duel Monsters as ka battles and showed the origins of Dark Magician and Blue-eyes White Dragon as Mahad killing himself to merge his ba and ka in order to serve Atem eternally and Blue-eyes is the soul of an outcasted girl who loved Priest Seto, the past incarnation of Kaiba. This relationship never went further since Kaz was sick but then again, this franchise never had developed relationships anyways.
Finally, the rivalry between Atem and Kaiba comes from the brainwashed Priest Seto fighting Atem and then receiving the crown but being dissatisfied with not properly winning it from Atem.
It did explain everything.
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>>143668177
This, just like Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon was nothing more then a visualization for the effect of Metalmorph's effect. The card itself is garbage and didn't need to exist just like Gate Guardian and Metalzoa.
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>>143668365
>how does summoning them work then? Is there some way that the characters know that you can fuse two monsters together?
Kaz never explained that but there is some sort of math involved in calculating stats.
It was more or less like ritual summoning, a dues ex machina he made up at the last minute
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>The card itself is garbage and didn't need to exist just like Gate Guardian and Metalzoa.
To be fair, Red-eyes Darkness Metal Dragon translated well from the GX anime but otherwise, some cards should have just been left unreleased.
This is just plain unplayable for example
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>>143668529
I still wanna know what was so special about Magician of Black Chaos. It was a vanilla ritual, it had no effect, when Atem went to his memories there was nobody their resembling that monster nor was it ever used as his Ki even in spin offs Atem used Black Luster Solider as his ki. I don't even think it appeared again after the Pegasus duel but Black Luster Solider appeared multiple times. Even GX and Yusei and Jaden even have monsters based off it's looks such as Yusei's only fusion and Jaden's Neos Knight. Both suck,tho.
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>>143668466
Same with Toons. The monsters are toonified to show they've been affected by Toon World but on the field it just has the Toon World card and the card in its regular form.
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>Kaito now has Little Fairy
>yfw Kaito's hand is at zero and he draws a card
>yfw it's Little Fairy and he gets carded because Sayaka a shit
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>>143668703
>I still wanna know what was so special about Magician of Black Chaos. It was a vanilla ritual, it had no effect, when Atem went to his memories there was nobody their resembling that monster nor was it ever used as his Ki
It's just a ritual upgrade to Dark Magician.
Chaos MAX is the Blue-eyes ritual upgrade
>even in spin offs Atem used Black Luster Solider as his ki.
That's pretty much anime only, manga has it be a ritual upgrade to Gaia the Fierce Knight
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>>143668950
She's doing Kotori proud. Now just how useful will those skates be to Yuya in Fusion?
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>>143665692
But it's had no major consequences on the plot at all despite being established as a major point back in Standard. It's just there. That's poor writing. Imagine if it had really, truly fucked things up in Synchro, wreaking disaster on Shiti. And you know what, we should have been getting at least a few more details about Leo's grand keikaku by now. Assuming Hitotsu Ni and the Arc Area Project are connected, having it blow up in Sychro and invite some exposition from Leo would have been absolutely welcome. Egao in and of itself isn't problematic, it's the fact that it's being used to fix everything unproblematically makes for a boring storyline.
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FUCKING HELL WHY DID YUGO HAD TO MISTERIOUSLY DISSAPEAR LIKE THAT

HOLY FUCK THAT BRACELET IS THE WORST THING ABOUT THIS SERIES, LET THE YUYAS INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER GOD DAMNIT
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>>143669861
Look on the bright side, atleast Yugo vs Yuri won't have any interruptions.
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>>143666024
...It was a fun episode that showed Roger having fun with electricity while the crows danced with the hippos?
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>>143669905
hehehe
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>>143670180
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>>143664986
Yuya can't go into berserk next epsiode because:

1) His tolerance for it is extremely high
2) Yuzu is there.

Unless Yusho or Yuzu gets carded/kidnapped we won't see it.
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>tfw the guy you just accepted as leader starts talking about his multiple personalities.
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>>143670576
It was hilarious how they made Edo just: "Eh? You are the MC, I guess it's fine lol."
It must be a normal thing go bananas after EGAO.
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>Isao begins chasing after Yuya to beat the shit out of him
>Yuya ROCKET SKATES away to dodge the ass-whooping
Your reaction?
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>>143671412
I'm expecting some acrobatic manoeuvres that's for sure.
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>>143662708
WAIT FOR ME RURI
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>>143667945
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>>143671972
What will make Yuya finally blush to Yuzu? Why is always the fucking same with Shounen MC's.
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>>143667818
>>143671972
Do they not realize that they are surrounded by angry academia grunts and Dennis?
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>>143671781
Amazing.
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I want Yuya to canonically kill Yuzu.
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>>143671781
Will the Tyler Sisters become relevant again at some point? I can only think of them appearing along all of Synchro to attack Academia. And maybe later joining to the Yusho Duel School in Fusion or standard
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>>143672249
Sorry but no. Yuya will fill Yuzu's belly with his white stuff by the end of Arc-V....
.and have 7 children with multicolor hair. IN ONO WE TRUST
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>>143672307
>The guy who broke up all of 5Ds couples
>Making something canon in Arc-V
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>>143667344
This is literally a children's card game commercial. It's not meant to be Evangelion or Studio Ghibli-level anime. Look at it from a money-making point of view:
1) It just needs to be interesting in the beginning to get the attention of nip children and manchildren. (Aka hook the audience)
2) Make patterned collectable cards like the 4 dragons, the Signer Dragons, or Numbers (or ace upgrades) to appeal to the autists and to the lowered but still natural pattern appeal of non-autists
3) Shill these cards and other cards in duels
4) Provide bait every few weeks by building hype and making us believe shit like Yuya vs. Yugo or Dennis vs. Yusho (the latter pretty much didn't happen at all).
?) ????
5) Profit!

It's a simple way profit model, really. That is literally the point of YGO anime.
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>>143672249
No bad ending, only EGAO and ENTEMATE duel all night for them.
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>>143672340
Jack "Women are a distraction" Atlas, Yusei "Get on out of here" Fudo and Crow "BUY BLACKWINGS" Hogan all prove this anon right.
The closest we got to a canon couple Yuma/Kotori but the manga confirmed the gay end with Astral
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>>143672361
>It's not meant to be Evangelion
Good, I don't want it to be Eva.
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>>143672361
Just because you're right doesn't mean I have to agree with you.
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>>143672424
>>143672340
So you are telling me a Yuya/Yuzu end is impossible to happen? Then why the fuck i'm still watching this
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>>143672361
From a money making point of view, wouldn't Konami want as many kids watching as they can draw in? But the little we now of Arc-V's ratings imply viewers are cut down by about half from what Zexal managed.

Arc-V's janky animation keeping it from achieving a sense of spectacle a lot of the time, and the lackluster payoffs it manages for its set ups probably bores a lot of kids away from the show.

Maybe next time they'll be a lot less ambitious about the scope of the cast and story.
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>>143672361
>This is literally a children's card game commercial. It's not meant to be Evangelion or Studio Ghibli-level anime.

Why do people think it being a children's anime means it can have shit writing? That is a terrible defense. Why is Eva always brought up by people defending Arc-V? Nobody is asking for Evangelion. People want consistent writing which this past arc lacked.
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YUZU CARNIVAL
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>>143672445
It's ok anon, I know Komoney's and Ono's dark intentions, but I'm still addicted to it..

>>143672555
Konami could have done it better but the animation budget was tight. You have to remember that Konami has an established loyal base and that YGO has name recognition, so they probably felt they could get away with doing some shady and cheap shit.
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>>143672613
Why haven't we seen a naked Yuzu silhouette yet?
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>>143672658
We actually have. Not sure if you are saying this so we can post an image.
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>>143672658
Why haven't we seen Yuya shirtless in canon? Judai, Yusei, and Yuma did.
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I just found out this game its coming this wenesday to the 3ds for free. Anyone will download it?
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>>143672555
Animation isn't the problem. All long runners have quality issues. The other thing you mentioned probably has a lot to do with it.

I do think the show was too ambitious and didn't have someone on board who could handle everything the staff set out to do
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>>143672715
haha why would I try to get people to post naked Yuzu pics haha I'm not a heterosexual not at all hahaha
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>>143672758
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>>143672788
Yuri with the wine will never make me not stop smiling.
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>>143672657
>Konami could have done it better but the animation budget was tight.

Can someone please post a source to this?
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>>143672596
Read the post anon. Konami just needs to cash in, the writing can be shit as long as the profit comes in. That's the cold hard truth of any business. Other animes can't get away with it like YGO can simply because their sole motive and method of getting credibility is by being good animes. Kill la Kill didn't have a card game to support it. Code Geass didn't have large-scale physical merchandise to prop it up. And almost all lesser animes than those 2 didn't have any name recognition or established fan base nor profitable merch to prop it up. Thus YGO doesn't need good writing.

The proof is that, despite all your complaints, you'll almost certainly be watching their next episode, and maybe even buying merch like cards. But just watching them is enough. And the fact that you're a regular poster in a YGO ARC-V thread means you are a loyal viewer. And that's all Komoney needs.
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>>143672657
Then why didn't the writers and director opt for a story more suited to their smaller budget? They and the producers must have known the potential obstacles. Even (the newer) Vanguard seems to manage that much from what I've seen.

>>143672738
It is a problem in a visual medium. Yugioh has always had egregious QUALITY and ups and downs, but Arc-V's problem is the frequency of it. Even a lot of the stills look bad. That's awful.

Ignoring the often stilted animation, the overall art direction doesn't stand out either. It's not like Yugioh is known for cutting edge stylization, but past series (except for GX I guess) had a certain aesthetic and common visual themes (like the urban grit of early 5D's and DM's Egyptian thing) that made them stand out a little bit more from the rest of the children's anime crowd. Even if you hated it, Zexal's saccharine far future metropolis made the show more distinguishable.
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>>143672950
Look. All I know is that YGO can get away with shit like this because it has name recognition, an established base, and a hugely profitable card game. The scale of Arc-V's problems might be due to mismanagement, or whatever the hell I don't know. But I do know that Arc-V served its purpose. It got cards sold. I can hypothesize that DSoD played a role in Arc-V's problems (and I believe it did) but that I cannot back up.
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>>143672918
This post is full of so much wrong. Kill la Kill sold tons of disc. Geass sold tons of disc and had a million Robot Damashii figures and statues. It even had Figma at one point.

You're excusing bad writing by saying Konami doesn't need it. The writers do though. Their resumes need successful shows on them in order to get more work. They need to be seen as good at their jobs. It's why Fukuda barely got work after Seed Destiny. Seed Destiny was laughed at and hated by even animators causing his reputation to sour amongst a shitload of other problems that show had. Arc-V products aren't even high sellers on Amazon. The DSOD products are.

How does me watching make Konami money? You do realize that they don't profit from streams or downloaded episodes, right? I haven't bought a single card since early 5Ds. Haven't even owned a single Xyz monster. Arc-V doesn't have loyal viewers. The ratings are really low and dropped a ton from where the show started at. You don't know what you're talking about so stop.
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>>143672731
I wish I had a nip 3DS.
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>>143672176
Of course not, nothing else matters to them.
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>>143673334
>inb4 their love-making is what makes all of Academia convert to egao
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>>143660264
Holy Shit Shinji is such a faggot
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>>143673153
I think what that anon was talking about was that Kill la Kill and Code Geass didn't have established merchandise going in. They weren't made with the intention of shilling a product
You are correct though
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>>143673153
Oh god, where do I even begin with this post?
>Kill la Kill sold tons of disc
>Geass sold tons of disc
How do you think they were able to sell that merch in the first place, Einstein? They had to be good animes with good writing, otherwise nobody would buy their merch.
>You're excusing bad writing by saying Konami doesn't need it. The writers do though.
I'm not excusing anything. I'm saying they CAN get away with it. I don't agree with it, I think it's bullshit that they do this, but it is what it is. Money trumps everything in the corporate world. Ono got contracted again by Konami despite what happened with 5Ds. You can EXCUSE that with the sex cult scandal, but then that COULD mean that Ono thought he could get away with circlejerking 5Ds for 1/3rd of this show since Konami hired him AGAIN. But that's pure speculation.
>Arc-V products aren't even high sellers on Amazon. The DSOD products are.
Arc-V products were good high sellers in the beginning, and now DSoD are good sellers. I'll let you in on a little secret, DSoD is also part of YGO and Konami. You figure out the rest.
>How does me watching make Konami money?
It doesn't, but nip equivalents of you (aka nip whiners) as well as other nippos do make Komoney profitable.
> Arc-V doesn't have loyal viewers
Mark my words, you'll watch their next episode and so will the nip equivalent of you. If not, then you wouldn't waste your time here. You obviously care about this show, that's why you are investing your (precious?) time here to voice your concerns. If the likes of you were to leave this show, then I would not even have seen the need to make these posts.

What do you want to hear from Konami? That their shit writing is because of shilling or rushing? Part of this show's problems are certainly due to the nature of YGO anime in general. But again, the SCALE of the problem is speculative. My personal opinion is that it's a combo of typical shilling+rushing due to Synchro+budget, but that's my OPINION.
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>>143660264
>>143673664
Holy shit Kachidoki is such a faggot
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>>143673153
What if the writers are just frantically trying to clean up ono's mess? The terrible writing might be a sign of nervousness from the writers. Remember that Arc v ends in a little over half a year so whats the point in making quality writing? Maybe Konami just made a mistake in hiring these people?
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>>143673807
>How do you think they were able to sell that merch in the first place, Einstein? They had to be good animes with good writing, otherwise nobody would buy their merch.

Nope. Having good writing has nothing to do with selling. Idol anime sell a ton and most of them don't have good writing. Gundam IBO sold 10k volume 1 and it had shit writing. Cross Ange had shit writing and sold over 10k volume 1.

>Arc-V products were good high sellers in the beginning,

Then they dropped like rocks just like the ratings. That's my point. The show lost its audience. DSOD aren't Arc-V products and them being YGO related has nothing to do with Arc-V. In fact, them selling so well is just brand power that Arc-V doesn't carry. That reflects badly on it.

>It doesn't, but nip equivalents of you (aka nip whiners) as well as other nippos do make Komoney profitable.

How so? Do you know that they watch on TV or buy cards? With the ratings as poor as they are I'd doubt it.

>Mark my words, you'll watch their next episode and so will the nip equivalent of you. If not, then you wouldn't waste your time here. You obviously care about this show, that's why you are investing your (precious?) time here to voice your concerns. If the likes of you were to leave this show, then I would not even have seen the need to make these posts.

I actually skipped a few episodes in this arc. Caught the last two. Again, me watching has nothing on the overall viewers. I don't even count. The Japanese audience shrinks all the time. Those aren't loyal viewers.

>What do you want to hear from Konami?

The name of the next series and pictures of the cast. I'd love to see blog posts from the writers and director after the series is over to see what production problems it had.
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>>143674018
I can see the writers wanting to clean it up. People take pride in their work and have to put it on their resume for future projects.

This past episode made 2ch go through 3 1000 post anti Arc-V threads. That's hilarious.
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>>143674229
Do you have screenshots? Certainly sounds hilarious
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>>143674018
Conflict between the creatives on the team might explain some things. But it's hard to tell unless someone from the staff actually talks about what's up behind the scenes, which is unlikely.
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>>143673807
>How do you think they were able to sell that merch in the first place, Einstein? They had to be good animes with good writing, otherwise nobody would buy their merch.

Yeah no, because Geass is not what a call show with "good writing" at least not R2. And then there are trash shows like SAO that sell shit tons. Writing≠Sales. A show just has to have something that hooks people doesn't have to be good writing for sure.
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>>143674307
Well it's in Japanese so it wouldn't really make sense to post shots but here's something funny

Synchro dimension Hen
Shit → ............... → shit → ............... → ............... → feces
Xyz dimension ed.
Feces → feces → feces

They have a way with words.
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>>143674027
>Nope. Having good writing has nothing to do with selling
Geass and KLK were good shows, that's why their merch sold. Gundam has name recognition like YGO (and way more so). Idol anime is, as the title suggests, IDOLIZED anime. You said it yourself, Idol anime tends to not have good writing. They have literal loli bait merch to prop them up like YGO. I've never heard of Cross Ange, but I just looked up reviews of it from anime viewers and apparently most reviewers like it, so maybe shit writing is your opinion.
>That reflects badly on it.
Again, Komoney still profits regardless. The onus falls then on the writers, not on Konami. They've already cashed in.
>With the ratings as poor as they are I'd doubt it... Those aren't loyal viewers.
Look at the OP's picture, it was art made just a few hours after the episode aired. Tell me if that's not loyal viewership right there. Sure the numbers have dwindled but the base is still there. Again, my point is that Arc-V has served its purpose already, more profit would be appreciated and Konami should LEARN from its mistakes in hiring bad writers, but at least they did their job correctly with regards to shilling.
> I'd love to see blog posts from the writers and director after the series is over to see what production problems it had.
I'd love to see that too. Fucking Ono, if he knew that Arc-V would last 3 years, why would he waste 1/3rd of it in Synchro? That, and (in my opinion) the animation budget restrictions made Arc-V turn bad. Look at it like this, Zexal didn't have as bad animation, and it didn't have a movie. Arc-V usually has bad animation, and a god-tier quality animation for a YGO movie was made during Arc-V's production life. In my view, the evidence suggests that the movie affected Arc-V's budget. Otherwise, why would Konami give bad animation to a series as ambitious and (initially) interesting as Arc-V? Why else would Konami give Arc-V horrid animation? You tell me
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>>143674791
Even the nips know what's up.
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>>143674791
What did 2ch think of DSOD in general?
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>>143670180
>>143670336
Dericious cabbage
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>>143673904
Holy shit, Kaito is such a faggot.
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>>143674589
Geass was good anon. R2 was lesser quality but still pretty good. As you said, the audience was hooked. I want to say that SAO appeals emotionally and that's why it did as good as it did despite its garbage writing. Arc-V had a good hook, if that counts for anything
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>>143675002
If you're going to post lewd Kaito, you might as well at least post something GOOD
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>>143675002
Holy shit Edo is such a faggot
>tfw no lewd Edo pic for my post ;-;
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>>143675071
>lewd Kaito
>GOOD
I'm afraid that's impossible. Don't let this picture lie to you.
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>>143673664
>>143673904
>>143675002
>>143675085
Holy shit Hitotsu REE is such a faggot
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what kind of rushed piece of shit ep was this
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>>143674858
>Geass and KLK were good shows

Geass was decent. R2 was garbage and is the anime the made calling other anime trainwrecks famous. It's the original trainwreck.

> I've never heard of Cross Ange, but I just looked up reviews of it from anime viewers and apparently most reviewers like it, so maybe shit writing is your opinion.

The average anime viewer thinks Seed Destiny was good but even the staff hated it. Despite being one of the best selling anime of all time Sunrise moved away from it because it didn't sell what they wanted it to sell, model kits. It sold CDs and DVDs at a high rate but the model kits shelf warmed so badly that the show was rewritten to make the old cast the stars again.

>Look at the OP's picture, it was art made just a few hours after the episode aired. Tell me if that's not loyal viewership right there. Sure the numbers have dwindled but the base is still there. Again, my point is that Arc-V has served its purpose already, more profit would be appreciated and Konami should LEARN from its mistakes in hiring bad writers, but at least they did their job correctly with regards to shilling.

That fanart doesn't make them money. We don't know who is buying what. I draw for a ton of stuff. I just drew Aki today but I haven't bought cards in years.
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>>143675156
Had to get Xyz quickly out of the way for much more pressing issues like k a c h i d o k i
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>>143675085
>barely any Edo lewds period
>0 explicit Edo material
>Not even ARC-V and Yuya's sexy egao worked
Seriously disappointing. A doujin where Yuya works his "charm" on Edo would be nice to see.

>>143675156
The one where why did you give ARC-V three years when its plot and pacing requires at least 3 1/2.
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>>143675233
if someone were to tell me a while ago that in one ep we would get resolution in xyz, dennis vs Yusho duel start to finish and setting up Yuya for a fodder duel all in one ep, i'd think they'd be bs'ing me
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>>143675201
>That fanart doesn't make them money.
Strawman. Of course the fanart doesn't make them money, what a dumb or malicious interpretation of my statement. But the fact that there are people who obsess this much over YGO means there is still very loyal viewership.
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>>143675326
Zexal/II all over again, viewer has to put up with shit to get to one final godlike arc
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>>143675323
There was an Edo lewd that someone posted like 1 or 2 months ago, one where he looked feminine as fuck
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>>143675397
This one? All the replies I saw to this one were about confused dicks.
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>>143675344
How much of that viewer ship is left over from the beginning? This whole conversation was about loyal viewers and in your words "Komoney". You said that me watching is all they need as if I made them money or something. You can't even remember the original points. This was about the show being successful and money.
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>>143675394
>godlike arc
That's honestly assuming a lot. Leo almost looks like he'll be Faker tier.
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>>143675475
YES, that one!

>>143675525
The original point was an analogy about you and a nip equivalent of you (a nip who complains about the show but still watches it). That gives them ratings. Don't try to flip the tables on me with that non-sequitur regarding the fanart. My point about the art is that it means that there are still very loyal viewers, like for example 99% of this thread. While the viewers here don't make Konami money, they are still viewers, Our nip brothers in 2ch complain but still watch it and they DO make Konami money. Going to back to your point, you can say you don't watch parts of it but you still watch it, and if you claimed that you didn't watch it, your behavior (you being here for hours on end) demonstrates otherwise. Actions speak louder than words, and while I can't literally see you, I can see your agency via your continued responses.
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>>143675700
>The original point was an analogy about you and a nip equivalent of you
>>143672918
Not according to this post.

>That gives them ratings.

You don't know how people are watching the show. You don't know if they are streaming, if their house is counted in ratings if they are watching on TV or if they are downloading it. You can't just make assumptions like that.

> Our nip brothers in 2ch complain but still watch it and they DO make Konami money.

You keep saying this but have no proof that they make Konami money.
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>>143675323
>eDo has a tantrum/egao ptsd in the middle of fucking
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>>143675820
>What is clarifying
>>143673807
Of course Western viewers don't make Konami money by livestreaming. Should have clarified that before your strawmans came in.
Even then: I have no proof that they livestream, you have no proof that you don't buy YGO merch. It's TV Tokyo in Japan, my assumption is a tad bit founded if I may say so myself? Anyways, ENJOY next week's episode, see you (unfortunately complaining) then!
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>>143675820
The whole point is that YGO will never be good because it doesn't need to be good. It just needs to shill product, and it does with particular effectiveness. Is that "good"? For the consumer, no. For Konami, yes, because it works.
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>>143676149
The lower ratings and lower sells of merchandise show that people aren't watching on TV or buying the products to make Konami money. Continue to shill anon, it's a good look.
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Yo fuck this anime.
I can't believe it even got shittier AFTER the Synchro arc. Fusion dimension is not having any consequence for what they do and are actually retarded enough to succumb to Yuya's baby ideaologies. I can't believe people are actually eating this shit up. Its been over 110 episodes with no explanation on what is inside Yuya. Only Shun getting carded could have saved the series and remind the audience how bad Academia is. But apparently Yuya gives zero shit about who gets carded. God awful series very mishandled. The only thing saving it is the soindtrack. 30 episodes isn't enough to save it. Looks like we have another Zexal.
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>>143676387
I was hoping Jack would fuck up Yuya badly during the Synchro arc so he'd finally give in and realize Berserk Yuya is the way to go. I have no idea how they'll resolve this in a way anywhere near the setup ZeXal and 5D's had in just 30 eps.
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>>143676387
please don't compare Zexal II to this trash
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>>143676387
But I actually liked a good number of Zexal's main villains.

Also, even if anyone was carded, all they have to do is uncard them after zerg rushing Academia's HQ after what Edo confirmed.
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>>143676387
>fuck this anime
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>>143675475
10/10 would pet
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>>143676387

is it time to use our trips on /a/?
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>>143676632
Now I see why yuzu likes him.
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>>143676632
Id tenderly love that tomato in the butthole yes

>>143676662
>now
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Daily remainder that shun is more irrelevant then sawatari and gon
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>>143676686
Don't look at him in that way too much, I'm in it for Yuri.
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>>143676630
thought it was implied heavily since the start that this was the solution.

Only thing keeping them from doing that was that they wasnted to recruit a squad to fight academia, but now Yuya went there with roughly half the manpower he had pre-synchro....
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>>143676736
The viewer could figure out as much, but even the characters in-show know that carding is reversible, so it's not really a big deal anymore.
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>>143676736
*wanted
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>>143676725
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>>143676387
>Shun getting carded could have saved the series
You're retarded if you legitimately think killing off the best character would have done anything but pushed the series even further down the shitter.
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>>143676789
Shun is old and busted. Kaito is the new hotness
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>>143676783
Best Yu.
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>>143676789
>Shun
>Best Character

That's not how you spell Reiji. Shun is an irrelevant albeit entertaining character.
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>>143676887
Reiji is more irrelevant than most characters in this show.
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>>143676926
Sad but true. Although he's still relevant to the story progression. You can take Shun out of Arc-V and it won't change the story at all but if you take Reiji out it fucks up a lot of plot points.
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>>143677022
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>>143676832
More like worst.
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>>143677144
fucking trigger dicipline
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>>143677022
But without Shun beating Sora the long chain of events that lead to Serena coming to Standard and the Jobelisk invasion wouldn't have happened, along with Dennis' reveal.
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>>143676820
Don't get me wrong, Kaito is my favorite character in the entire franchise, but he's not been doing much this time around.
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>>143677022
>You can take Shun out of Arc-V and it won't change the story at all

That's just wrong. He's the reason for a great deal of shit that happened so far.

Yuto chased after him and went to Standard, which started the whole clone business there. Without that Yuya would never have been accused and they would never have to fight the LDS members. He destroyed Sora and forced him to reveal himself, making everyone more aware to the dimensional war. Sora was forcefully recalled and returned to take revenge for his loss which lead to the mini invasion. Also Yugo was lead to Standard since Yuto was now there, which kickstarted a whole other chain of events. I won't even touch on the things that happened in Synchro.
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>>143675142
I don't get this meme.
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This is a semen demon
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>>143677283
>Yuto chased after him and went to Standard,

Was it ever explained how they got to Standard?
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>>143677435
It's some anon trying to force something shitty into becoming a meme
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>>143677511
I guess they just reverse engineered Academia disks. Same reason Shun was able to card people before Reiji took it out.
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>>143677467
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>>143677283
>Without that Yuya would never have been accused and they would never have to fight the LDS members.

Ok, but I'm sure Reiji would have eventually gotten him involved in something seeing as he knew Yuya had pioneered Pendulum and he knew Yusho so Yuya was naturally a person of interest and he was trying to recruit Lancers.

As far as Sora revealing himself it was inevitable as his intentions from day 1 were to spy on Standard and prepare for an invasion. It probably would have happened after the end of the tournament. He had always planned to beat Shun but unexpectedly lost so it messed up the timing of his plan. Everyone would've been aware of the dimensional war anyways as soon as the MC ended as Reiji and Himika announced the Lancer project.

I guess I can't really say anything about Yugo and Yuto considering we still don't know how they just appear and disappear out of nowhere. But seeing as how Yuya is connected to all of them, he would've eventually come into contact with Yuto with or without Shun.
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who the fuck writes these eps
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>>143677165
Liar.
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>>143677739
Men who have stopped caring
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>YUYA TAKE MY FEELINGS
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>>143678252
GAYYYYYYY!
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>>143678252
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>BAD END
>Arc-VI is the manga.

That's all i wish
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>>143678554
Is Yuzu kill in the manga or what?
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>>143678371
>me behind him
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>>143678609
Yuzu is the peanut gallery who likes money and is a fujo
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>>143668950
>Kaito just puts the fucking card in his deck
>doesn't take a card out
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>>143678993
>peanut gallery
What?
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