ITT: Fluid animation, god tier edition
>kyoani meme circlejerk thread
>>143654864
>animation thread
>tumblr gif
Kill yourself retard.
>fluid animation
>posts a gif
wow that's like 5 keyframes of animation
>>143654864
>>143654864
Fuck your shitty cute crap.
We posting real Sakuga
>>143654864
Is this a yuri thread?
>>143655307
The actual animation in this is really good, but the fucking background CGI when the camera moves is so awful it completely kills the scene.
>>143655355
No, it's the heterosexual adolescence thread.
>>143655120
Now compare the quality of the scripts.
>>143655688
>the exact moment a best girl is created
>>143654864
>Tumblr gif
Why? It's incredibly obvious how shitty it is. How do people put up with their terrible gifs?
>>143655688
>fluid animation thread
>>143655307
Whatever happened with the movie? I saw it released in May but there is no translated version up on nyaa. I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to movies so do we have to wait until the BD releases?
>>143655792
Phantom World still has a better script funnily enough.
>>143655688
None is significantly better than the others.
>>143655688
None were that great, specially Dimension W that shit the bed after the 5th episode when it became some kind of hunger games.
>>143655688
PW's is still better
>>143655120
I miss notAccel.
Why doesn't Sunrise outsources LL's dances to KyoAni instead of making 3D garbage?
https://u.pomf.is/sxmajy.webm
fresh content
https://my.mixtape.moe/jgwgoa.webm
>>143656389
KyoAni just needs to man up and make their own idoru anime.
>>143656428
Is this Ufotable? It looks much better than their usual garbage fights in Fate.
>>143656489
If Hanada taints KyoAni with his idolshit one more time
>>143656553
Yes
>>143656428
Don't you just hate it when you and your broskies are hiking through the woods, minding your own business, when suddenly you're attacked by ninjas wielding sharpened glowsticks?
>>143655307
>real Sakuga
>there's CGI in the background
>>143657107
>Shitting on CGI.
>>143655120
>Nitpicking
>>143657107
What does background got to have to do with sakuga?
>>143657003
Does anyone have the Reco's Water ball webm?
>>143657222
That's not nitpicking, all of those examples are from their actual climax fights. This is nitpicking though.
>>143657283
Remove the fucking background then, it makes the whole scene looks shitty.
>>143657473
>still better
>>143657473
KyoAnus after spending one quarter of the budget.
Other studios after spending three quarters.
>>143657826
Love that shoulder movement.
I want my sidemouths back to be honest. I liked that shit
I'd give all of the hibikes some fluid, if you know what I mean.
>>143656389
>>143658058
Mitsuki was too good for that shitty show
>>143657199
It's a different form of animation, comparing the two is apples to grapefruits.
>>143658125
I need to watch these.
>>143658125
If you ask me I'd say that looks like 'forced animation,' even though I hate that fucking meme
>>143658149
The show was fine, also Mirai was a best.
Forced animated forced eating.
>>143655120
>musaigen no phantom sales
for the love of god why can't kyoani just adapt at least decent source material? why the fuck does shit like this even get the budget to be animated by them or are they just hiring chinese/korean workslaves?
>>143658125
I've always felt like Ufotable's strengths are their direction and digital effects, the animation itself is definitely good but not outstanding.
>>143656428
I came
Based ufotable
>nobody posted anything from steamboy yet
>>143658262
There were far worse shows than Phantom World during that season.
>>143658262
Name one KyoAni-owned IP that allows as much animation freedom as PW does.
>>143658334
>There were far worse shows than Phantom World during that season.
BONES pls
>>143657199
that is good but not video game CGI tier
>>143658320
Gotcha covered bub
>>143658334
This.
https://youtu.be/7sDjyw9-RXs
https://youtu.be/ACCvfcfdoNU
>>143658406
Got three more; not exactly sakuga material eh
>>143658359
Phantom World had really impressive animation, which was weird because it was rushed for a KyoAni anime
>>143658214
>>143658491
>>143658401
why do you want modern video game tier cgi?
Do people not realize if you were to put 2d characters/objects in something like KingsGlaive, it'd look like something out of a middle school student's photoshop project?
>>143658406
I'm planning on watching this
Is the dub for this any good? Since the setting for this is in post Victorian era Europe and all
Or should I stick to the original japanese dub?
When was the last time we had an actual big budgeted quality anime movie? Paprika was 10 years ago, Sword of Stranger 9, Redline was fucking 7 years ago. It's about time we get a new movie.
Ghibli or Studio Chizu shit don't count.
>>143658542
And done.
>>143658586
Disappearance
>>143658545
>why do you want modern video game tier cgi?
Because it looks fucking good you retard
>Do people not realize if you were to put 2d characters/objects in something like KingsGlaive, it'd look like something out of a middle school student's photoshop project?
It has been done perfectly before
Why is it a problem now?
>>143658586
K-on movie had a big budget and it looked beautiful.
>INB4 moeshit
>>143658607
Disappearance budget doesn't come close to any of Satoshi Kon movies, neither does the animation quality.
>>143658589
Whats the point of an armored vehicle if the crew is exposed?
>>143658586
K-On movie was incredible.
>>143658581
The movie's definitely worth a rewatch, so why not both?
I watched sub and dub, for me though the japanese VAs definitely had more spirit in their acting, as in scenes above normal speaking had more feel to it, whereas in the eng dub it sounds like the actors just raised their voice. Both are good though, can't complain much.
>>143658626
It looked great as a late night anime movie, but it's not on par with shit like GitS, Akira, Paprika, Redline, Steamboy, etc.
>>143658261
Is he(?) having some sort of seizure?
>>143658586
Garden of words
>>143658545
It doesn't necessarily have to be realistic. Catherine and the upcoming Persona 5 look better in-game than most CGI anime while still maintaining the aesthetic, for example.
>>143658621
>It has been done perfectly before
Really? Give us an example.
>>143658497
It had more good sakuga moments than Hibike
Though Hibike had instrument animation.
>>143658666
More armor = more weight
Since they're running on steam power they definitely need less armor to move faster, and besides unlike today's tanks their armor in that era was enough to protect from most projectiles.
>>143658621
It would have the same problem as shitty looking cgi in that it sticks out like a fucking sore thumb in a stylized medium.
>>143658742
Bautiful backgrounds, lackluster sakuga and recycled plot, like any Shitkai movie.
>>143658497
>rushed
Why'd you think it was rushed though? Based on what's in the LN everything in the anime looks like everything's been planned ahead since all the stuff in the show fits what's in the source.
>>143658718
It's a mystery.
>>143658497
>rushed for a KyoAni anime
Nigga please they only have to make 2 to 3 shows a year of course it had got great animation. Don't compare them with other studios who have more difficult circumstances.
>>143658840
>they only have to make 2 to 3 shows a year
This is agonizing.
>>143657826
Renge is in Limbo the Animation?
>>143658840
Other studios outsource to hell and back and/or are much bigger than KyoAni, that's why they can afford to shit out 2 or more shows every season.
>>143658750
GITS Innocence, Appleseed, Planzet, Final Fantasy Advent Children and Tekken Blood Vengeance
>>143655044
>fluid
>noticeably skips directly to key frames
>>143659006
That's not the point of what i'm saying. That guy worship phantom world's "rushed" animation as if it's a big deal when Kyoani didn't even have to handle other shows for 2 seasons.
>>143658962
Yes
She's Renchon before she was drafted to 'Nam
>>143659176
Phantom world was like a little passion project.
>>143659175
Studios that do 2 or 3 shows a season have enough staff and korean slaves to pull it off, it isn't really a handicap.
>>143659311
Keep telling yourself that.
>>143659262
Hopefully they at least got their money's worth back. Poor Leina though.
>>143659372
You're impressively retarded.
>>143659372
Lurk for two years before posting.
>>143659406
Those covers are fucking hideous.
>>143659406
If I knew how I'd buy the artbook. I wonder if it has Enigma in it.
>>143658291
they also excel at giving the action impact, probably much due to excellent sound direction and ost.
>>143658339
>S3 never
Fucking elevens
>>143659353
I will because it's true, doesn't take much time to compare staff from say Phantom World and Grimgar
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=17731
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=17732
Grimgar team had more staff and outsourcing than PW, yet it ended up looking worse.
>>143659461
I like this one.
>>143659529
Grimgar is by A-1 which is barely a studio. Most of their shows are a disaster.
>>143658262
>why can't kyoani just adapt at least decent source material?
I'm admittedly a newfag, and I've only been watching seasonal anime since 2012, but Euphonium was the best anime I have ever watched as it aired. They get good source material sometimes, and when they do they manage to do wonders with it.
>>143659434
>>143659459
Don't know it. more lurk time won't help either.neither will samefagging
>>143659262
It feels dispassionate to me. Like they had no interest whatsoever in the characters or story, and just focused on animation, visual effects, random trippiness, etc. out of boredom
>>143659529
Grimgar didn't "pull off" anything though.
>>143659635
kill yourself my man
>>143659624
Then you should try watching their adaptions like K-On or Haruhi, which everyone and their dog says is better than Euphonium.
>>143659635
>30 seconds between the posts
>samefagging
I'm at a loss for words.
>>143656958
>forced animation
>>143656428
DOMO. NINJA SLAYER DESU.
>>143658586
Kaguya is one of the
>Ghibli or Studio Chizu shit don't count.
Well fuck you, then.
For whatever it's worth, Miss Hokusai was the best animated feature film to come out of Japan in 2015.
>>143659529
Why are you trying to emphasize the size of the staff here? My point here is the time. Time.
Kyoani take it easy, while studios like A-1 go all out with 3 shows per season. So stop try comparing works by making webms showing other studio's anime walking like stilts.
>>143658149
this desu
>>143659624
Soon
>>143659755
clearly you're new then.
It's not uncommon to have plus.
>>143659624
>They get good source material sometimes
>sometimes
Ha.
They bought Euphonium. 'Cause they know their source materials are terrible.
>>143654864
>tumblr gif
>>143658548
Why do I like this?
>>143654864
Reminders kyoanus will never have a fight scene as good.
>>143659880
Why does the girl on the right have a nose?
>>143654864
Did someone say "Fluid" animation?
>>143659790
Everything in that webm makes sense to me. If it wants to show cuteness.
>>143659844
What makes you believe that KyoAni takes more time on production than other studios? Companies like JC, Bones, Sunrise or A1 have more than one team, each of them working on a different show, that's why they have higher output, which is my whole point. More employees = more shows.
>>143659880
>Euphonium was the best anime I have ever watched
You really need to watch more anime senpai.
>>143659372
Gabenlad
>>143659880
>hibek
Good.
>knk
Confirmed rushed garbage in movie format
>Violet ever garden
Episodic trash
>>143660146
Read his full post famalam, the previous post
>>143659028
I was really hoping that the new berserk anime would have animation quality that is comparable to Appleseed
Oh, how fucking stupid I was
>>143658497
Nothing in Phantom World was rushed. Now if you want to talk about rushed, let's wait until Koe no Katachi comes out.
>>143654864
Oh god I wish they would do just one Haruhi episode with this quality of animation. Season 3 please
>>143660252
What makes you think KnK will be rushed?
>>143660357
Don't play dumb. 7 volumes.
>>143659955
Good thing I watch anime for the girls.
>>143655120
Kyoani loves their forced animation don't they?
>>143660412
Oh, the pacing. I thought you meant rushed production
>>143660412
They can rush shit all they want, I don't give a fuck
Just change the god awful manga ending and it'll be a 10/10 in my book
>>143660412
They aren't going to adapt everything you dumbass.
>>143660055
checked
not that kind of animation anon...
>>143660531
It wasn't awful. There was no kiss because romance wasn't the focus and they most likely stopped having romantic feelings for each other, they're just friends who give each other support.
>>143660642
That's the problem. No one cares about any of that shit. Romance should have been the focus, not the extremely contrived/forced drama.
>>143660811
I thought forgiveness and self-acceptance was the focus of the manga.
>>143656389
why is mirai so lewd
>>143660022
Because she's a robot and robots has nose while humans doesn't
>>143660157
retard
>>143658125
Evil Dead: Japan Edition
>>143661101
Hey man, don't be harsh on him just because he likes hibike euphonium (despite misspelling it).
>>143659649
That's what I meant, the animators had free reign to be creative and have fun.
Though I disagree about the characters and story, it had low-key stuff like Reina being rewritten by phantoms plus development for Haru and Mai becoming more competent and Koito becoming more friendly.
It's really too bad that KyoAni is exclusively dedicated to produce moe shit without any substance besides pandering to waifu fags.
It's like they just gave up after the Disappearance movie.
>>143661443
Are you sure you're not the one who just gave up? At least try.
>>143661421
Motherly Mai saved the show for me, I just simply fell in love with her from there on. Truly a miracle of the universe.
>FMP anime
>still no information about studio
I WANT TO BELIEVE
>>143661443
Well, if their source material to adapt are just light novels that not even Kadokawa is willing to touch with a 10 foot pole, then there's not really much that can be done.
>>143661530satelight
>>143661443
Disappearance didn't exactly have much substance either
>>143657199
Macross Frontier had some great CG, especially in the movies
>>143661599
Haruhifags are deluded nostalgiafags.
>>143659262
What I've heard is that it was a test for their newbie animators.
>>143654864
The animation isn't all that fluid if you can still see every key frame.
This is an animation with a lot of frames, but it's not fluid.
>>143661530
I hope it's MAPPA
>>143661705
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
>>143661599
At least it tried to have a story.
>>143661746
Dunning-Kruger effect only applies when you're analyzing your own skill, not a finished product, autismo.
I can still tell that a Rolls Royce is a better car than a Pontiac without knowing shit about how to make a car.
>>143660479
If by forced animation you mean doing in 15 frames what you could do in 5, yes.
>>143661722
Or perhaps it's gonna be Actas. They're doing this season's 2D mecha anime Regalia, and Full Metal Panic season 3 is apparently going to be a handdrawn mecha anime by an anime studio in Tokyo.
Since Bones and Sunshine were said to not be doing it, they're now a possible candidate.
>>143661819
So did Kyoukai no Kanata, Hibikeks, Tamako Love Story and Amagi.
>>143661878
>frames bullshit
>>143661942
Who are you quoting?
>>143661878
Saying you can tell by the pixels is mis-analyzing your own ability to assess quality.
>>143662002
Being able to see which frames the animation stops at isn't about pixels.
>>143661937
not sure because I dropped it, but the charas look like Garo
Where the hell is Joshiraku.webm?
>>143659176
>That soft landing
Adorable
Is this the Kyoani thread?
>>143655044
holy shit this is amazing
based godani
>>143658291
hey look a sensible person on 4chan
>>143663516
Lewd.
>>143663516
Technically, it's another sakuga webm repost thread where everything old is being reposted again, and there's the one or two occasional new thing thing.
>>143663627
It's not sakuga but do you have the webm of Enigma telling Haru she enjoyed the time she spent with him?
>all those small webms
Get good for Christ sake.
Unfortunately no
>>143663749
Meant to quote >>143663692
>>143663516
Why are KyoAni lolis so soft and cute in a non sexual way?
>>143658371
Christ I wish episode 1 wasn't the only episode to have good animation.
>>143663692
There you go lad
>>143663789
Thanks anyway.
>>143663955
Thanks
https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/cf5951745bc4fabd1091b6971baf3301.webm
>>143658058
No way dude! I want to kiss those lips!
The entire opening sequence for 3.33 is beautiful and some of the best CGI i've seen from Nippon
>>143658406
When did we get mecha phantom of the opera
>>143663881
I wish they didn't blow half their budget in the first episode of every single fucking show they put out.
>>143661937
>not using metadata
>not using WAIT
lurk moar newfag
>>143664619
I can't stop watching
>>143664847
http://b.1339.cf/jpoquii.webm
>>143663541
Nice filtered photo background there.
>>143666543
Nice meme there.
>>143664545
the metadata gives you a year
Anybody have webms of Watanabe scenes? I only have shitty gifs.
>>143666848
>>143663833
Because Kyoani doesn't know how to make the good ones.
>>143666899
>bebop
>tumblr gif
Kill yourself
>>143666848
>shitty gifs
then don't download from tumblr
>>143666954
does know*
>>143667017
Is that Thunderbolt?
>>143667059
>>143656958
This stupid, overly bouncy forced animation never looks good.
>>143657340
Here you go familia.
>>143660099
>When you're stuck between a wall & an NPC just standing there.
>>143663881
Good thing it wasn't.
>>143659434
>>143659459
In his defense I have no idea what that is either.
>>143667909
you also need to lurk more if you don't know how to find out
>>143668284
it has been explained at least twice in this thread. and many times more in the past. which means, yes, lurking does work.
>>143658589
Might want to lower the resolution of those Steamboy webms, the bitrate is awful.
>>143668508
nobody asked for a tripfag's opinion
>>143669192
LURK MOAR FAGGET
j/k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myriad_Colors_Phantom_World
>>143658502
I don't remember this scene. Then again, I blocked out most of GGO. Worst arc I've ever seen.
>>143659736
I've seen both. K-ON is very good for what it is, but as an artistic piece Euphonium is far better in terms of its characters and drama. Yes I know K-ON wasn't aiming for drama, but when you make something with the goal of being comfy and endearing you remove any possibility of being as impressive as Euphonium. That may just be my own taste showing, and I did really love K-ON.
Haruhi was a nice watch but sits rather firmly in "anime" territory. It relies fairly heavily on standard anime tropes and doesn't have nearly as much weight in its own right as Euphonium.
>>143669762
Depends on your definition on "artistic piece"
Euphonium does have more focus on character drama and personal motivations, but K-On is way more focused on characterization, the settings, and how the characters change through interactions.
As you pointed out as well, being impressive is just up to taste. Seeing the girls think about and working on and eventually performing Tenshi ni Fureta yo was the most moving thing I've ever seen in anime, period.
Haruhi is all about Haruhi's development. Its also filled with tons of little details like Haruhi putting her hair up in a ponytail when she wants to make up with Kyon, or avoiding giving Mikuru a ponytail because Kyon says he loves ponytails in the last episode of the first season. The beauty of Haruhi is that its just a standard romcom, but completely disguised as a supernatural mystery show.
>>143660461
>forced
>>143658291
I didn't know an animation studio could direct.
>>143654864
Saying an anime is good because it has fluid animation is like saying a movie is good because it was filmed at a higher framerate than normal.
>>143672723
There are actually situations in which a higher (or lower) framerate can be used to create a certain impression. Knowing when to do this requires good artistic judgement, not just a higher budget or more time.
>>143659037
Ok lets see
>>143655044
Oho......
>>143654864
Holy crap you are right, the gift looks BETTERER, fucking Kyoani/Trigger Choppy shit
>>143666661
It's my favorite meme after SUN RISES IN THE EAST TOP KEK.
>>143672385
>Let me take care of the business side for you.
>>143672385
I'm still fucking mad.
>>143672723
I think I know an animation studio you'd like.
>>143672915
It's still far less influential on the quality of a show than script writing, the framing of shots, characterization, visual storytelling in general, etc.
I can't think of many anime that have used "sakuga" animation as anything other than a special effect.Disappearance is one of them, though.
>>143656958
Please don't be pic related
>>143673121
>Best guess for this image: clothing