What's the verdict on the first episode?
>>143642944
I have no idea what's going on. Where's my adventuresexual bro and his gay spirit? Where are the ruins? Where's the adventure?
>First episode
It's called episode 00 though. Alisha isn't even part of the show.
>>143642944
Alisha a shit.
>>143643118
Next week.
Not enough ruins nerds.
About as good as the game.
>it's another thinly veiled 'this game is shit/overdone waifufag showdown' thread
So should we keep discussing how Baba wrecked everything?
>>143643155
>In the back with Rose's VA.
>>143642944
Man, the overhead shot of the city made we want to play sexy fire emblem again.
>>143643164
Best boys will save us from the waifufagging.
>>143643155
Baba pls go
>>143643204
Alishia a shit. Don't care enough about Kayanon.
>>143643201
Yes
>Being hyped as anniversary tales
>only sold less than 350k in it's first week, xillia sold 550k, even xillia 2 sold more than 450k in it's first week
>second week sales drop, the biggest sales drop ever in tales franchise, 94% more drop
>the most return game to the store ratio ever for tales franchise, it's also the most returned game for all games in japan for 2015 (you can buy it for 100 yen, roughly 1$ on amazon japan store)
>The most hated tales of ever, japan really rage, angry, disappointed, and disgusted about this game, outburst at 2ch, yaraon, 2chan, NND and other outlets, spamming countless insult, harrasment, and hatred. Namco had to release the DLC of alisha for free because of that (and scrap other scenario DLC, because the rage is only getting bigger)
>The lowest rating tales of ever in amazon jp (probably the lowest rating game in japan of 2015)
>Have a whole wikipedia dedicated for it's shortcomings
>Death threat and harrasment to fujishima (rose and sorey character designer) so much that he had to delete his twitter
>Death threat to hideo baba and his family, harrasment and an attempt of murder? (it's reported that he got a packet containing some sulfur/acid adressed to him), so much that he become afraid and paranoid, he never appear on public again since his last interview for zestiria in april, which he got heavy backlash regarding alishia situation
>At his last interview baba is quoted saying "The Zestiria team that worked days and months throughout the past three years were truly heartbroken by all of this.・
>Terrorism threat at tales festival, the tales fes is guarded by a batallion of army and police, with baba nowhere on sight, he's not even there to announce new tales of berseria (baba usually the one who announce the new tales)
>Voice actress of rose doing dogeza and apologized for the fans and quoted saying "please let me join the tales family too", which only further enrages the fans
Threadly reminder fuck Baba
>>143643300
Zestiria was the sacrifice. We now have a better producer for Tales games. >>143643156
>>143643284
>>143643300
>Good part of the threads are likely going to be about why Baba is trash
I'm okay with this because he is trash.
>>143643161
you called?
Crunchyroll rips when?
>>143643284
Berseria will be his redemption. How can you not love a main character who is voiced Rina Sato?
Do you think baba will show up at this year tales festival?
i've read it on/v/that the tales fes this year will also be heavy guarded, just like last year, because it appears there's another threat this year too
>>143643414
Baba has fuck all to do with berseria
>>143643367
The more people that know the better. Tales was always had a couple unlikable characters but Rose is just fucking awful. Knowing it's due to him forcing her just grates me the wrong way.
>>143643414
Baba isn't involved with Berseria and they have been very clear about that.
>>143643439
He probably won't appear anymore. It's too risky.
>>143643464
Good then
>>143643402
It's on Funimation
Heroine waifu next week.
Alisha is still boring.
Soon.
>>143643284
Holy shit, I only knew about Baba causing the Alisha rage, but this? This is borderline war.
Are Japanese Otaku really like this? I never knew they could actually get shit done,it's like a paramilitary or terrorist hivemind.
I hope berseria can save them though, it would suck if the Tales franchise died because of one man's dick
>>143643580
I can't get enough of that waist. The character design had a stroke of genius.
>>143643612
>Are Japanese Otaku really like this? I never knew they could actually get shit done,it's like a paramilitary or terrorist hivemind.
Yes, it's not the first time angry fan send sulfur/acid to people they hate. They can go very far with death threats as well.
Did they show the first two episodes at AX or how come people have been leaking the ED already?
Great visual, lame story.
Can't Ufotable hire someone with actual writing skill?
>>143643637
>Character design
I meant character designer.
>>143643612
Well they didn't even polish the the game and then they put out an illegal update that made the final boss unplayable.
>>143643674
Honestly I'm not to familiar with Otaku outrage aside from this and what happened to Gainax back during Evangelion's production
>>143643693
I want to go drinking with Dezel and Zaveid.
>>143643637
He was placed with the girls in the gacha too. Bamco knows what they're doing.
>>143643414
He has no opportunity for redemption, the company probably hates him as much or even more than the fans.
http://tokrin.com/archives/50878033.html
Best boy won, as expected, but why people like Sorey so much?
>>143643475
>Zestiria was supposed to be the most harem oriented tales game, with Zorey being the good guy mc, Mikleo is the trap/friend that many harems have, Alisha was supposed to be the pink/red haired main heroine, Lailah is the guiding spirit of zorey which pull the harem together, Edna is the token loli who teases the MC and the group, Rose was supposed to be the airhead adventurer who always want to slash and dice enemies (aka your regular tomboy), then you have other guys who are the usual enemy/friends of the MC helping in the party.
And it ended as a BL game.
>>143643776
He's cute and voiced by a popular VA.
>>143643730
I'm aware of the Kakyuusei 2 incident which took years, but did eventually lead to the company shutting down.
>>143643414
Baba's not working on Berseria.
>>143643693
yes
>>143643637
How many more lewds will he generate?
>>143643738
want to go drinking with Edna
>>143643874
A countless amount.
>>143643782
It'd be funny and sad if people actually believe this.
>>143643918
Now that's uncanny.
>>143643904
I have this burning feeling in my chest.
Can Seraphs get pregnant? This is important.
>>143643637
>>143643284
That wasn't the question the OP asked and aren't people tired of this fucking topic already?
>>143643693
>>143643859
are there more of these
>>143644028
At this rate might as well avoid more /v/ tier threads for this show cause that's what people are going to be talking about more than anything
>>143643776
Because he's loved by best boy. Also he's the only other good character, albeit an extremely simple one.
>>143644065
Thank you, ufotable.
The opening had lot of Sorey/Mikleo scenes.
>>143643991
Yes. See >>143644005
>>143644083
Who's this mob character? She's cute.
>>143644034
>>143643782
Thank baba and rose for that, the game would had minor complains about the gameplay and story if they actually went with their original idea and didn't shit all over alisha, zorey and the rest of the cast to circlejerk rose.
>>143644135
That's not their child, it's Mikleo when he was a kid.
>>143643284
So why would they make an anime of this?
Haven't paid attention since the game came out, are the waifufags still butthurt?
>>143644028
The controversy is more known than the game itself, you're always going to have people come in with what they heard about the controversy, and people responding to that.
>>143643580
Not soon enough.
>>143644142Rose
>>143644083
Alisa's body have nothing on velvet
>>143644142
Someone who got cucked very hard.
>>143644191
Probably planned before the game's release.
>>143644156
>Thank baba and rose for that
Really? And you people say Baba and Rose were cancer
>>143644199
>Defending Baba
If you honestly think that the problem with Zestiria was about waifus then you probably didn't play much Tales games yet.
>>143644155
>>143644241
Rose isn't even the heroine.
I'm midway the game and I am enjoying it, even if I didn't get to see alysha anymore, is it that bad? Sure the battle system isn't the best, I am really liking the characters.
>Bunch of new anime original content
>all of it is Alisha suffering
For what reason?
>>143644227
Oh ho.
>>143643859
Cute!
Are there any leaks of the tip-toe or soemthing like that of Edna a nip mentioned?
>>143644191
Of course to promote the new game, and it's why they put velvet in the anime, even though berseria supposed to be 1000 years before zestiria
>>143644191
They had very big plans for Zestiria before it was released since it was the 30th anniversary.
How many episodes are planned for this?
>>143644275
They understand the fans very well.
>>143644004
>Rose first
>>143644229
Why are you posting a pig? Here's a body worth looking at.
>>143644191
To fix the story in some way probably while at the same time promote the new game.
>>143644199
It's not just the waifufags. Most tales series fans are still mad. The game itself is awful. The battle system is bad, the camera angles gives you a headache, and many more faults
>>143644319
>Vagina bones
Why is this allowed?
>Velvet is in the OP
Fuck now I need to watch this
>>143644229
Isn't that just brunette Milla
>>143644368I want to lick his body.
>>143644325
25 episodes.
>>143643204
They're friends in real life.
>>143644274
Tales was never a good game so yeah, the problems are the waifus.
>>143644407
A slutty and sexy milla
>>143644407
Jude and Milla's child.
>>143642944
FLOW does it again.
Are they completely changing the story or something? Because Alisha definitely didn't meet Lunarre, Rose, and Symonne before Sorey did in the game.
>>143644368
2sexy4me
Judging from the 1st episode, do you need to play the vidya to watch this series and not be completely confused as to what the hell is going on?
>>143644455
>Tales was never a good gameFor you.
>>143644199
Extremely.
>>143644283
>>143644241
>>143643782
Mikleo is the heroine; I thought that was pretty obvious
>>143644264
The Nips found leftover assets of Sorey being more proactive in the game data, so Nips believe that Sorey's story was also altered to make Rose necessary.
>>143643523
Fuck off with that shit. Give me Daisuki.
>>143644470
They can't fix the gameplay and other issues, but they can try to fix the story.
>890mb
That's a big anime.
>>143642944
It's shit. Like Alisha.
>>143642944
>Alisha best girl
Mikleo > loli > The rest
>>143644470
Yes, so expect the pointy nipple witch from berseria to appear in anime
>HS is ripping Funi instead of Daisuki
I wish I know how to rip it myself.
>>143644617
>>143644407
Velvet is actually based on Milla due to her popularity.
>>143644617
>>143644661
Her design is just a rip off Teepo.
>>143644642
Fucking hell.
>>143644528
Believe what you want but can't change the fact Rose is the heroine and Sorey love interest.
>all these comments about Velvet in the OP
>everyone forgot Eizen's in it too
>>143642944
Rose > Lailah > Edna > Zaveid > Alisha > Sorey > Meebo > Dezel
>>143644887
fuggg
gud catch anon :^))))
>>143644882
Rose stayed pure for Baba. She died a virgin and without children.
I like how still nobody is actually discussing the episode like it never happened and it's just another typical Tales thread rehash
>>143644882
>>143644912
Now this is delusion. Truly, waifufags should be burned alive at the stake.
I seriously hope they change up some of the dialogue in episode 3 (episode 2 was basically a redux of the tutorial dungeon and how Alisha ended up in it) because the game dialogue is WAY too happy go lucky for someone who just watched her friends all die in front of her a few hours earlier.
Anime Alisha might end up becoming a hellion if the suffering train doesn't stop.
>>143644617
>pointy nipple witch
>>143644887
Is he?
>>143643284
Was it really that bad? Why did the fan rage that much?
![Tales of Zestria The X - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_06.17_[2016.07.03_13.56.34].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TgzCA9L.jpg "Tales of Zestria The X - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_06.17_[2016.07.03_13.56.34].jpg")
>assassin can't hit a stationary target
WOW
>>143644959
Nothing happened, just Alisha suffering.
>>143644959
It may as well have not happened. It was primarly about a dud character that nobody cares about. Wait until there's an episode with good characters in it.
>>143644882
Rose's love interest is Alisha.
>>143644998
Read the last thread.
>hint it's not waifufagging.
>>143643284
>>only sold less than 350k in it's first week, xillia sold 550k, even xillia 2 sold more than 450k in it's first week
That tells more about Xillia than Zesty, though.
>>143644998
I should create a pastebin.
Check the previous thread. >>143624274
>>143644882
>Sorey love interest
Nah, that bromance scene confirmed Mikleo X Sorey is the OTP
So they are going to connect Zestaria to Berseria? The opening made it look like Sorey is Arturius and Velvet is that generations calamity. But I don't think that's right.
>>143644981
>Alisha ends up hellionizing in the anime
>Rose saves and purifies her
>Sayaka x Kyoko 2.0 happens
>>143645039
>wait until there's an episode with good characters in it
Should I just drop this show then?
Hype for this scene.
>>143644985
>>143644229
>>143644319
>vagina bones
I think we have a new trend
>>143645090
Yeah they'll be connected but we don't how yet.
https://youtu.be/kMZD46WGPN0
why are they silent at 0:21, what did that girl do to them?
>>143645052
The other way around.
Alisha lust over Rose
>>143645110
If you're not in it for the homo OTP then I don't see what reason you'd have to watch it.
>>143645107
Do you want ufotable to burn too?
>>143644821
I wonder if someone can ask them to rip it from Daisuki.
I remember HS ripped Luck & Logic from Funi at first then they did v2 from Daisuki.
>>143645117
>One pure waifu between two guys
Why is this allowed?
>>143645144
Cause she's just a mob.
>>143645173
Then go ahead, my friend.
>>143643284
But he's sorry! Please forgive him, enraged fans!
>>143645125
>new
So Mikleo wins? I thought that Alisha would win.
>>143645117
>Sorey's penisbones
>Zaveid feet hiding his boner
>MIkleo perfect skin
Those fucker knew what they were doing.
>>143645013
Everyone has bad days.
>>143645168
Why not just watch reruns of Legend of the Blue Wolves?
It'd be a better use of your time.
>>143645206
Don't worry, Zaveid doesn't have the brainpower to recognize a babe when he sees one.
>>143645171
They're already pushing the pairing so fucking hard with all the changes they're making, fuck them.
It's obvious that it's just a ploy to pair the two girls so they can pander to the Sorey and Mikleo fan girls since they ALSO added a ton of bait material for them.
>>143645251
>I thought that Alisha would win.
Anyone did a version of this featuring Rose?
I feel like we'll need one for this ride.
>>143645251
Of course he wins. The game ends with them holding hands together in some ruins.
>>143645208
Just noticed BudLightSubs is out so I guess I will get that instead.
>>143645218
No. Fuck you Baba.
>>143645366
so did this come from MAL or Reddit
>>143645068
There is footage of Berseria gameplay and it will have the same shitty combat/item system of zestiria but you don't see everybody bitching about it right? because the problem it is waifufags.
>>143642944
FUCKING HARDSUBS
>>143645366
>This is what passes for a heroine? Ugh, kill me now.
She is not the heroine. The heroine is actually a boy
>>143645366
You got this from Redzit? Okay, now take it back to Redzit and never post it here again.
>Our system thinks your post is spam
>>143645279
Because vanilla childhood friendship is my favorite kind of love.
>>143645435
Except it's not the same. If you've been following the updates they made a lot of changes.
>>143645435
But they will use the same engine as Xillia. So the movement wont be sluggish as fuck
>>143645366
Play the game
>>143645435
Except the combat of Zestiria was shit and if Berseria is exactly the same with no refinement then people will complain.
>>143642944
NIPS HATE IT
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25456770
Hideo BABA dead or alive [MAD] video on niconico douga apparently have been deleted, anyone still have it?
![[DLSuki] Tales of Zestria the X - 01 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_02.23_[2016.07.04_03.44.07].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WAOY51P.jpg "[DLSuki] Tales of Zestria the X - 01 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_02.23_[2016.07.04_03.44.07].jpg")
I just loaded this up with no prior knowledge of anything at all.
Loving the top notch animation already.
>>143645588
Aren't lots of the ratings recently around 60-70?
>>143645562
They hyped up Zestaria by saying that it would have he CC system, then proceeded to give us stiffness with shitty camera.
>>143645366
Nice pasta faggot, now fuck off with your pathetic shitposting.
>>143645641
>Aren't lots of the ratings recently around 60-70?
no, anything in the 1000 sales tier or lower will nab a 60, generally nips are pretty liberal with their opinion, 80% positive is pretty common for a first episode even of a shit series. Anything that breaks the 5000 unit sold line typically will rate in the mid to high 90s for pretty much it's whole run.
>>143645641
Not really, it's usually always high around 80% and up since nicofags have low standards.
For the most recent one here's HXH preairing nico rating
Can I watch it if I haven't played the game ? Are 13 episodes enough to adapt the full game ?
>>143644959
>I like how still nobody is actually discussing the episode like it never happened
Nobody cares about Alisha, that's why.
>>143645618
Looks incredibly bad in that shot.
>>143645712
>>143645499
>>143645406
not a pasta, but nice samefag. you that assblasted about me correctly ripping that moronic first episode appart?
>>143645758
I careabout her failures and suffering.
>>143643341
Yeah, everything I've heard and seen about Beseria has been purely positive. Looks pretty amazing for a prequel to one of the most disappointing Tales ever.
Love how the new producer wasn't afraid to take a risk, isn't this the first Tales with a FeMC? Heck, if there's a romance (and there looks like there will be a /ss/ relationship between Laphicet and Velvet if what they say and do in the trailers mean anything), it's a very uncommon dynamic.
Protagonist isn't a moralfag either, but, at the same time, I don't think she's an edgemaster. Think the same level of complexity as Yuri. Far better than the flattest character in the franchise yet, Sorey.
Looking forward to it, I'll probably even buy it.
>>143645790
>he thinks we samefagged!
>>143645717
What did Berserk have?
>>143645285
Wow they're not even subtle with how fucking gay the MC is, that's amazing
>>143645595
What is it about?
>>143645790
Fuck off already newfag, nobody cares about your shitty opinions anyway.
>>143645371
>male love interest grows a ponytail
Tell me this is canon
>>143645999
It is, in the post credits scene of the game Mikleo has a pony tail
>>143645915
>MY HATE
>MY REVENGE
>ARTORIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS
>complex character
>>143645999It is. At the end of the game, after centuries have passed, Mikleo is the only one to wait for Sorey. In the video he appears with the ponytail and wearing more white clothes. Of course he wins the Soreybowl.
>>143645999
Yup. There's a timeskip at the very end and Mikleo grows glorious long hair.
>>143645915
>isn't this the first Tales with a FeMC?
It's the second one. Though Milla had to share her spot with Jude.
>>143645999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBp5qKuV2hI
>>143645978
Baba went missing after the zestiria fiasco, so they made a dead or alive warrant for him, and it went viral in nips land
i honestly think baba should just kill himself, faggot enabler like him are honestly creepy and disgusting
>>143645999
>>143645999
Yep he grows out his hair while waiting 700 years for the MC to wake up.
>>143646138
purest waifu
>>143646138
what happened to the other bitches?
>>143645915
>Tales of makes an otome shit game
>Wow such risk and transgression
Pic related, what Berseria is going for and the female otaku demographic they want to catch on, it is so fucking obvious.
>>143645588
The episode it's completely about Alisha, of course it's going to have low ratings.
Anyway, as you can see here: https://youtu.be/kMZD46WGPN0
The fujos will buy the shit out of this. I expected this to sell around 15-20K.
Why can't Mikleo be girl instead?
She'd be the most perfect tales waifu
Jesus christ, Funimation.
How stupid are you?
>>143646228
Mikleo is the only one to show up in the epilogue.
>>143646271
He's more pure because he's a boy.
>>143646228
Dead due to old age
>>143645562
the combat wasn't really the problem,
it was the super shitty AI on the NPC characters.
Especially on some of the tougher fights, they have two options, run away and stand still until the boss comes up and 1-shots them with a super long animation charge attack, or they suicide-dash in and get eaten alive.
Not to say that the combat wasn't shit, because it clearly was, but it wasn't THAT bad all things considered.
>>143646119
Fag enabling is Baba's greatest achievement, and the best thing in any of the tales games. The only things he did wrong relate to Rose and gameplay.
>>143646228
Humans are long ded.
Edna couldn't give enough fucks.
Zaveid was imprisoned for indecent exposure after humanity regained its ability to see spirits.
Lailah died from acute pneumonia.
>>143646281
Which one is the HS rip?
>>143646281
they're both wrong. it's Ancient Angelic Records, not celestial records or Seraphic Records, and who the fuck cares about placenames?
>>143646281
>same sentences can be translated in different ways
is English the only language you know you cuck?
>>143646271
Because girls are trash. Only boys are capable of being pure and worth loving.
>>143646338
Funi
>>143646326
>Lailah died from acute pneumonia.
Fuck you
>>143646293
How about this Rose slut?
Is she implied to die pure waiting for Sorey too?
>>143646271
Because hetshit is completely disgusting and absolutely not pure.
>>143646326
Low blow.
>>143646359
Celestial Record is the localized game term. Daisuki subs is keeping with that, unlike Funimation.
>>143646410
>Is she implied to die pure waiting for Sorey too?
She atleast fucked Alisha
>>143645366
>muh lgbtqxrz otp wasn't in episode 1 so it's shit
kill yourself familia
>>143646326
>Lailah died from acute pneumonia.
I bet you thought that was funny don't you?
>>143646047
>>143646070
>>143646077
>>143646090
>>143646136
>>143646138
yesssssssssssssss
Fuck it, I'm playing this game
>>143646326
>Lailah died from acute pneumonia
every fucking thread
>>143646234
>Otome
>What Berseria is going for and the female otaku demographic they want to catch on, it is so fucking obvious.
hahahaha your denial is really funny
>>143646580
>implying Bamco gives a fuck about overseas landwhale prudes
>>143646580
>thinks japan has SJW's
they're not fucking retards
http://nichegamer.com/2016/03/01/japanese-representative-refutes-un-suggestion-to-ban-media-depicting-sexual-violence/
Now fuck off back to /v/
>>143646637
>>143646659
>http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/04/22/tales-of-berseria-velvets-outfit-wont-be-censored-producer-thinks-fans-want-the-original-experience/
>“I promise. Velvet’s costume will surely be the same in the western version. The design of that costume is created by Mutsumi Inomata, and she created that costume based on the character’s concept and setting, and on the storyline.
>I believe that those who support the Tales Of series like to have exactly the same content as the Japanese version. We believe it’s ideal and the best option to bring exactly the same game experience and design to the western countries. I promise that Velvet is still Velvet in the western version.”
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>143646580
To be honest I feel velvet outfit is just to bait male audience to buy the game for her. Otherwise, It seems more like a shojo setting.
>>143646553
>>143645588
Completely understandable once you read >>143643284
Not even if it was a masterpice would it get good reviews.
>>143646734
Yeah except for the fact that slut witch exists too.
I liked the game's OP better
>>143646234
That's not bad at all though, that's the manliest anime you will ever see.
I hope Zesteria fucking made it clear to the Tales teams that the fucking CC system does not work well with that fucking shitty 3rd person view they had in Graces.
It's just remarkable that they fuck up so bad. Tales characters are supposed to be fun, and the combat is what makes fans stay since every Tales story is essentially the same recycled shit since they have yet to top Phantasia's story. I hope this anime sucks, and that everyone watching gets cancer. An utter insult to the fanbase.
>>143646119
Zestiria romance was just the culmination of everything Tales is
>>143646734
>Shojo setting
>muh Revenge
>muh family murder
>skimpily dressed protagonist
yes they went for shojo settings, it just happen the mc is a slutty one, not to mention we will get her outfit where we can see her sideboobs and underboobs at the same time, genius!!
>>143646844
GOTTA BE WHITE
I"M GOING TO SHIT THE BED
>>143646832
It's common to see the femc with their female friend or yuri bait character, just like sorey have mikleo.
>>143646659
>>143646580
I don't hate Velvet costume because it shows skin, I hate it because it looks fucking retarded.
>>143646250
Isnt this suppose to sell like 30k though?
>>143646939
It's a good thing baba has been getting rid of, happy times ahead
the new producer sounds like a cool bro
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t3xnJTJmkE
>Velvet is similar to Milla, is it just a coincidence? Fukaya: Milla was very important in the process of Velvet's creation, because Milla is one of most beloved characer of the series, not only in Japan, but even in Europe and North America. So no, it was not a coincidence, and it was very difficult to create a character like Milla.
>The anime will change the ending, making it an alisha ending
How mad will you be?
>>143646986
Except the yuri bait character is not-Rose.
![[Underwater] Atelier Escha & Logy - Alchemists of the Dusk Sky - 05 (720p) [0C746906].mkv_snapshot_03.05_[2014.05.24_09.53.37].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dAsnLZS.jpg "[Underwater] Atelier Escha & Logy - Alchemists of the Dusk Sky - 05 (720p) [0C746906].mkv_snapshot_03.05_[2014.05.24_09.53.37].jpg")
>>143647054
it would be an improvement.
I really disliked how hamfisted rose was into the latter parts of the game.
