ITT: Animes that make you go "That was it?" at the end.
I rate this show a 6/10 at best.
>Baby's first taste of Okada writing
Feels good doesn't it?
>>143454902
Nori-chan deserves to become the next Redditgahara.
More like this. ITAI was the climax and everything after was a rush toward ending it.
At least it delivered all the expected ships.
>>143454902
>animes
>>143454902
>not liking a comfy ending
only if you're a fucking pleb
>>143454902
>watched it until the end
Your fault.
>>143454902
Same. I gave it 7/10 though because it was pretty and I let myself be sucked in by the feels accidentally.
>>143454902
The end was the only good part.
>animes
>>143455403
>>143455184
samefag.
are you trying to tell me that they aren't "animes?"
would you prefer the more proper term: "anime television series?"
>animes
>>143455571
It's anime not animes, don't mind /a/utistics they get triggered easily
>>143455571
You can add "television series" if you want to, it's not mandatory though.
![[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 12 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_18.49_[2016.06.26_02.33.56].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zxxEcJq.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kiznaiver - 12 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_18.49_[2016.06.26_02.33.56].jpg")
It looked pretty nice.
>>143455663
>It's anime not animes
No it's not. "Anime" is a descriptor. It's like saying you can't call RPGs "RPGs" and should instead say "RPG."
>>143455692
There is normally no plural in Japan. so would you say ninjas or ninja and samurais or samurai
>>143455692
'Anime' is a word similar to 'sheep', or 'bread'. The plural is the same as the singular form.
>>143455785
*?
forgot question mark
>>143454902
>Animes
>~/10
>mpv-shot0002.jpg
>1920x1080
You should get a good sleep,anon. Breathe some air too
>>143455785
But I'm not speaking Japanese; I'm speaking English, and in English that's not the way it works.
>>143455793
>'Anime' is a word similar to 'sheep', or 'bread'. The plural is the same as the singular form.
Source for the English usage?
>>143455818
You have an issue with mpv and 1080 or something?
>>143455571
It's OK, OP. No need to hide your new anymore.
>>143454902
I find it kind of sad how this anime was so good at everything else except the narrative, and everyone is hugely devaluing it solely because of that. Cinematographic direction, art direction, sound direction, character design, scoring, voice acting were all top notch stuff here, but all anyone seems to care about on /a/ is the narrative- completely ignoring the value of every other technical or artistic aspect. The flowers in the ED? The rooftop scene in episode 12? The entirety of the Honoka episodes? Splendid stuff.
The story was utter schlock, but Kiznaiver is at least a 7/10 and probably an 8 because everything else was so damn good. What a great anime.
Hiroshi Kobayashi did an outstanding job here for a first timer- on everything aside from working with the writer, that is- and I hope he gets a lot more work (hopefully not saddled with shitty writers like Okada next time). He was the assistant director for Rage of Bahamut too, which was surprisingly great for the first half; he shows a lot of promise.
>>143455843
New people are not allowed. That's the rule.
>>143454902
>ITT: Animes that make you go "That was it?" at the end.
Pretty much everything that aired this season and had an ending to be quite honest.
It was a pretty underwhelming season.
>>143455869
Thanks for the bump.
Calling people "new" is something only new people do so they can try to fit in.
>>143455571
Go to school and learn about nouns, kid. This place is 18+.
>>143455881
whatever makes you feel better m8
>>143455843
Go to bed Micheal
>>143454902
>Animes
YOU FUCKING IDIOT
THE SINGULAR IS ANIMU AND THE PLURAL IS ANIME
>>143455885
?
Still waiting on that source for "anime" having the same plural and singular form in English.
Sage and report garbage threads.
>>143455689
>HorribleSubs
>>143455915
It's in the same category as rice, water, dust, wind, etc., retard. Now kindly fuck off.
>>143455860
The story is the crux of most anime. This wasn't slice of life shit, it was a serious anime meant to try and convey an important message.
It failed spectacularly.
The rest of it was quite good but that doesn't excuse the fact that the story went full retard. To the point where you're left bewildered by the stupidity of the characters and the plot. The lack of consequences also diminishes the character growth and cheapens the already shaky writing.
It's not like the writing was a smudge on an otherwise beautiful picture. Kiznaiver is the proverbial polished turd.
>>143455860
>I find it kind of sad how this anime was so good at everything else except the narrative, and everyone is hugely devaluing it solely because of that.
The narrative is one of the most important factors for any medium trying to tell a story. If the narrative is shit the rest of the work doesn't matter.
>>143455915
Go on any self-respecting anime news site and tell me if they use "animes".
Go on, look it up.
>>143455950
Where is your source?
I already posted mine in >>143455843
"Japanese-style animated film or television entertainment" is similar to "soap opera" or "drama." Would you call soap operas "soap opera" or dramas "drama?"
Again, I'm not using the Japanese term. I'm using the English term. So please, provide me a source that clearly states that the plural form of "anime" in English is "anime" and not "animes."
>inb4 was just an advertisement for source material
>>143456003
Anime is a name of the industry, not a name for particular series.
>>143456003
Neither of these guys, but how would you refer to multiple kanji?
"kanji" or "kanjis"?
>>143456003
>"Japanese-style animated film or television entertainment" is similar to "soap opera" or "drama." Would you call soap operas "soap opera" or dramas "drama?"
This is bait right?Just in case you are quite literally this retarded, it's describing it as similar entertainment, not similar in terms of english word usage. I can't believe I have to explain this.
>>143456027
>Anime is a name of the industry, not a name for particular series.
Wrong again. See image.
>>143456003
Ever used a dictionary? Notice the letter (u)? It means uncountable.
To quantify it, use 'anime series', 'a bag of rice', 'a piece of advice', etc.
Free lesson.
>>143455843
>>143456003
>But I'm not speaking Japanese; I'm speaking English
>insisting on butchering foreign words
>>143456003
There is no source because japan don't plural their shit i like said before, how about you stop getting triggered by meme arrows you piece shit.
>>143456075
>Arguing the specifics of the english language on an African Tree Copal forum
>>143456104
>>143456104
>but I speak english hurr durr why should I care
I already know what his response is gonna be.
>>143455843
>>143456003
t. Popcorns
>>143455956
>>143455961
Yeah, this is where I disagree. I feel that valuing the narrative as absolute over every single other facet of a work is unfair and possibly a childish way of looking at things- no offense intended.
Calling it a polished turd especially disgusts me, as it relegates all these other elements to being mere frills with little to no artistic value. To me, it's as if saying that a painting has intrinsically less work than a novel. Just because a work tells a story, doesn't mean that that's the only thing it does, or even what should be focused on.
>>143456046
Kanji is a form of writing similar to Chinese Hanzi.
The word Hanzi can be translated as "Chinese Characters" and so can Kanji. It is already pluralized.
"A Japanese animated film or television program" is not the same.
>>143456088
>Notice the letter (u)? It means uncountable.
I don't notice the letter (u) anywhere in this definition.
>>143456152
>an-uh-mey
what the fuck
>>143456113
>>143456075
We wuz anime and shit
>>143456075
>A-nime 2 syllables
Into the trash it goes
>>143456152
That's a shitty fucking website, the word is pronounced [an-eem-ay]
>>143456175
>>143456170
>>143456166
I don't see a (u) here either. I see a noun that should be pluralized just like any other regular noun.
Post your source for anime being singular and plural outside of the Japanese language.
>>143456152
You don't even speak English.
http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/anime
>>143456152
>an-uh-may
Filthy gaijin, it's アニメ
>>143456193
>Post your source for anime being singular and plural outside of the Japanese language.
It's a Japanese fucking word.
>>143456193
Lurk 2 years before posting.
Nice thread faggot.
>>143456193
If you insist on how the naming works, Oxford name it 'mass noun', aka uncountable noun.
>>143456202
>This obscure dictionary is more credible than fucking Merriam-Webster
Are you sure you want to do this?
>>143456212
No, the Japanese word is アニメ. The English word is "anime."
Reminder that I wanted to discuss a completely different topic in this thread, and that you are all derailing it horribly.
>>143456193
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anime
anime ‎(countable and uncountable, plural anime)
(uncountable) An artistic style originating in, and associated with, Japanese animation, and that has also been adopted by a comparatively low number of animated works from other countries.  [quotations ▼]
(countable) An animated work originated in Japan, regardless of the artistic style.  [quotations ▼]
(rare, countable, chiefly proscribed) An animated work, regardless of the country of origin.
>>143456249
If you'd posted here before you'd know that >animes would be your only response. Please >>143456225
>>143456246
>Oxford name it 'mass noun', aka uncountable noun.
Where?
>>143456267
>wikitionary
Lol.
>>143454902
A boy falls in love with a girl.
Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycfdfinG_P8
ED1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDNGS9V4Us
ED2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4DyTjrruVo
PV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
EP 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rz1bluG_k
EP 13: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLUjMWRCzic
>>143456249
Hey retard rhis is the last post. Go to Oxford online. It has 'mass noun'. Also go google what the fuck Pearson Longman dictionary is before you talk stupid underage.
>Mods still didn't delete this guy's 4chan account
>>143456313
wikitionary has a plural for the work, fuck off faggot
>>143456193
>>143456324
>>143456313
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/anime
>>143456334
Wikitionary is not more credible than Oxford, WolframAlpha, or Dictionary.com.
It's like citing Urbandictionary.
It's "anime".
In context, it's clear if you mean it in plural or not.
It's like the word "corn", honestly.
>>143456324
>>143456346
nice keitais
>>143456350
You see, the difference between your link and mine is that oxford is using the American English definition of "anime," while yours is using some other form of English.
I am American, so I speak American English.
>>143456324
And here we go.
>>143456324Stop posting that because it's already a thing.https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
>American education
>>143455128
tengaXchidori is a fucking crime
>>143456324
Thanks phone doctor!
>>143456382
Stop fucking butchering the japanese language, asshole.
>>143456324
Anime endings that made you go "That'll do pig...that'll do"
>>143456442
>Stop fucking butchering the japanese language, asshole.
I'm not butchering anything. I'm using the proper pluralization for an American English word, and you are shitposting about how it's wrong and I should be using the British English definition.
Do you not realize that there are different forms of English or something?
Why hasn't this bait thread been deleted yet?
>>143456477
>anime
>english word
>>143456324
While we're at it, Keit-ai doesn't make any sense.
It's pronounced Kei-tai. You can't write Keit-ai in Japanese. It's retarded.
>>143456492
See >>143456313
https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/anime
>american_english/anime
>>143456455
none of them
at least not recently
there's no room for dramatic and fulfilling conclusions when anime has to be milked for potential subsequent seasons
>>143456481
Mods can't do their meme jobs right
>>143456477
"animes" is used by disgusting "lol i'm aan O-TACK-OO xDDD" types, so /a/ rightfully attacks anyone using it to make people like that feel unwelcome. You would know this if you'd >>143456225
>>143456382
Mamoru Oshii is probably the only director in the world who makes art films under the guise of traditional anime.
That's an example taken from the Oxford. They don't use plural retard. And you don't see 'an anime' anywhere
>>143456511
From your very own link.
Can you explain why it doesn't say "animes" here?
Good job shooting yourself in the foot.
![(B-A)Great_Teacher_Onizuka_-_Lesson_02_(2FCA1857).mkv_snapshot_07.14_[2016.05.15_18.29.53].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UCjcFJV.jpg "(B-A)Great_Teacher_Onizuka_-_Lesson_02_(2FCA1857).mkv_snapshot_07.14_[2016.05.15_18.29.53].jpg")
How can there be such a stupid person?
>>143456561
The second one seems better, IMO.
>art films under the guise of traditional anime
>>143456552
>>143456561
>A style of Japanese film and television animation
So again, I will refer to other "styles" of film and television. Do you refer to "Thrillers" as "Thriller?" "Dramas" as "Drama?"
>>143456606
>moving the goalpost
Answer that anon's question.
What's happened? I didn't aCT like this when I was new. I learned, and moved on.
>>143456647
It's how people are today. Always assuming they're right - they can't be wrong, can they?
>>143456647
It's summer and the gradual loss of humility among the youth of globalised society.
>>143456647
Something in the summer air i guess?
>>143456643
Not really moving the goalposts, but okay.
>Can you explain why it doesn't say "animes" here?
Probably because there is another definition on Oxford that lists "anime" as an uncountable. Inconsistency, basically. Oxford isn't a solely American English dictionary.
>>143456663
I'm perfectly willing to admit that the proper term is "anime" should someone provide me with a dictionary definition specifically regarding the American English usage of anime and its classification as a mass noun. So far no one has done that. They have claimed:
>But in Japanese there are no plurals
>But in this different subset of English it is described as a mass noun
etc.
Provide me with a proper source for your claims and I will agree with you.
>>143456606
Don't question how the language works. Hamburgers are food. Bread is also food. Nice logic.
>>143456700
>Provide me with a proper source for your claims and I will agree with you.
see >>143456511 >>143456561
Now you'll respond with "b-but it's inconsistent!", "b-but oxford isn't a solely American English dictionary!".
>>143456700
No such thing as an "american english" dictionary. The only one that counts is the oxford dictionary because america didn't invent english.
>>143456700
Wait a minute.
Could you provide me with a word that has a plural in American English and doesn't in British English?
I don't see how the grammar can be so different between both subsets of the same language.
>>143456455
Cowboy Bebop's ending was just incredible.
>>143456779
that is pluralized in AmE and not in BrE?*
I dropped this three episodes in, exactly how much worse did it get?
>>143456770
>The third disc of this set contains a mediocre anime film with great animation and music
Referring to the style of the film.
>Mamoru Oshii is probably the only director in the world who makes art films under the guise of traditional anime
Mamoru Oshii is probably the only director in the world who makes art films under the guise of traditional drama,
See how that works?
>I admit I am a purist when it comes to my anime and I like it in its original Japanese with subs
Referring to the style of film and television.
"I admit I am a purist when it comes to my drama and I like it in its original English subs."
Nowhere in that definition does it imply or state that anime is a mass noun in American English.
>>143456779
Anime, apparently.
https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/anime
https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/anime
>>143456834
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/drama
Drama can be used as mass noun and that's what it is in this sentence. Also if you bring up thrillers, see >>143456750
>>143456834
>I admit I am a purist when it comes to my anime and I like it in its original English subs.
>Nowhere in that definition does it imply or state that anime is a mass noun in American English.
Does it make fucking sense to be a purist for only a single fucking anime? Learn to read between the lines.
>>143456898
*a mass noun
>>143456898
>not American English version of Oxford
Again, provide me with an AMERICAN ENGLISH source that states that anime is a mass noun and I will concede.
>>143456833
A lot
>>143455893
He's right, you know.
>>143456944
American english is for faggots.
>>>/r/animes
>>143456944
How about you provide us with an AMERICAN ENGLISH source that states that the plural of anime is animes.
>>143454902
95% of all anime make me think that although I stopped expecting anything else. If it happens once a year or so I get more impressed if I didn't expect anything anyway.
>>143456997
Burden of proof is on you, though. You (and others) ruined the thread with you >animes shitposting.
None of the dictionary definitions for American English I have posted have stated that "anime" is an irregular noun or mass noun. The only definitions that have supported that claim are from other subsets of English.
Thus you can logically conclude that it is pluralized just like any other regular noun.
>>143457045
>shitposting
It's the fucking truth.
>>143457055
>It's the fucking truth.
If I was speaking World English or British English, then yes, you're right.
I'm not speaking either of those languages though.
Reminder that it's not sheep, it's sheeps.
It's not deer, it's deers.
It's not fish, it's fishes.
It's not anime, it's animes
>animes
>>>/out/
>>143456944
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anime
>Noun
>anime ‎(countable and uncountable, plural anime)
>plural anime
Now feel free to provide counter-proof that the plural is animes and not anime.
![[AnimeNOW] K-Project - 10 [BD 720p AAC] [1773859].mkv_snapshot_12.19_[2016.05.28_08.30.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/v2Nep6h.jpg "[AnimeNOW] K-Project - 10 [BD 720p AAC] [1773859].mkv_snapshot_12.19_[2016.05.28_08.30.39].jpg")
>>143456901
Well?
>>143456944
Mamoru Oshii is probably the only director in the world who makes art films under the guise of traditional drama.
Hey retard, a word's grammatical function is based on how it's used, not because people naming it. Mass noun can be used like a plural, that's why it is not 'drama'.
It was fun. I haven't this for quite a while. I bid you adieu.
>>143457097
see
>>143456356
that guy doesn't take wiktionary for a credible source, find something else
>>143457118
What he takes for credible is irrelevant, when he's been unable to provide even 1 (one) source to back up his claim.
>hurr I dont find this credible
Then there's no point in replying to him because he'll say that towards every single source provided to him. See >>143456561
>trying to make sense of retarded word the Japanese loaned from English who loaned it from French and reincorporated into English
As far as I'm concerned, "animé" is a frog adjective from "dessin animé" and should not be used as a noun to indicate a series nor should it be pluralised by itself. If you want to pluralise, simply use shows, series, "dessins animés" and movies. I even cringe a little when the style is described as anime but the nips have cuter accents than the anglos so I can forgive them a little.
>>143457082
Pic related.
>>143457097
Wikitionary is not a credible source.
>>143457172
>What he takes for credible is irrelevant, when he's been unable to provide even 1 (one) source to back up his claim.
Pic related.
>>143457204
>again, doesn't show that the plural of anime is animes
fun fact even firefox thinks you're retarded and doesnt accept animes as a word.
>>143457243
>caring about the spelling of useless shit
Autism, everyone.
>>143456944
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/anime
Linked by merriam webster in the anime definition page, ALSO created by them.
It said NONCOUNT. The end.
>>143457287
Okay. That's all I wanted to see.
>>143457281
Season ended, nothing else to discuss.
>>143454902
Had very good potential but...
>>143457334
I hate how dead in-between season is.
>>143457318
whew, fucking finally
I'm saving both the american english and the english english dictionaries so I can prevent things like this from happening in the future.
>>143457411
There's always the eternal stalker shitposting.
>Valvrave
>>143457411
i'm here for you anon
>>143454902
>6/10
You need standards.
>>143457642
>t. Flying Shit watcher
Not even good bait.
>>143455881
That's only true if it's a simple mistake. When you fuck up something, like anime(s) and then try to defend the usage of it, or something really retarded like asking for source on a Yotsuba image, it's not new people calling others new to fit in.
>>143456003
>Again, I'm not using the Japanese term. I'm using the English term.
No, you retard - you're using a Japanese word. If you were using the English term it's based off of, you would say "animation." And it's "anime" for both singular and plural for the same reason "millenium" becomes "millenia" when pluralized - it follows the grammar rules of the language it came from, which in the case of "millenium/millenia" is Latin.
Now less posting, more lurking.
Animi and mangaes
>>143455860
Nothing about any of those atributes was done better than literally anything else airing.
The show is a fuck up, glad it flopped hard.
This show was good, but the ending was just utterly awful.
Even the movies couldn't do a good job of ending it
>animes
Nice bait. Just say it properly next time if you actually want people to take you seriously
>>143455880
this honestly a lot of shows started strong and flopped along the way the only one that stayed consistent was flying witch
4/10
Bad even by Okada shit standards
>>143455956
>The story is the crux of most anime.
Ha ha, sure. Most anime can't keep up a coherent narrative without going full retard or MINDFUCK at the end. Anime watchers are so used to this course of action that whenever a show does stick to its premise and delivers a coherent ending it's being dissed as bland and predictable.
>>143454902
The first thing that comes to mind is the post credits scene from Panty and Stocking and Highschool of The Dead. Also,
>animes
I could imagine a second season since there's still more in the story like what will happen with the experiement? Who lead the experiment/project? Or maybe an Ova about them being highschooler or just triple date
>>143457390
Everything was a 10/10 except the ending. If only it wasn't rush as fuck.
