>限定 58,779 65,080 69,771 08.05.21
Wait, so Kara no Kyoukai "movies" were selling almost 70k?
That's almost two times better than UBW. Much more than even F/Z.
Why are they milking Fate so hard when other T-M stories sold so good?
Because Fate sells well and has much more possibilities.
>>143389156
>sold so good?
Sold so well.
They adapted pretty much all of KnK already.
>>143389156
Because they already milked it with the cash grab that was Mirai Fukuin.
>>143389156
Hope they won't bring back a series that's already had a good conclusion.
>>143389156
You can't compare movie sales to series sales.
Eva 2.22 sold almost 500K in BDs alone, which is more than double of the highest selling series ever (which is NGE coincidentally).
Go look at Disappearance, Madoka Rebellion or K-On movie, and you'll see they sold double what the TV series sold.
Movies sell way more than TV stuff, that's the reality of things.
>>143390255
Most KnK movies are 45 minutes long. They are not real movies.
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>>143389860
Even if it was a cash grab it gave us a 10/10 loli.
>>143390472
You are right, but they are still released as single movies, with the occasional BD box.
I like KnK more than Fate, but I think a Fate Zero Movie series (hypothetical, the format does not suit it) would have sold more than KnK by a decent margin.
Sales don't mean quality, but Fate is certainly more popular than KnK.
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>>143389156
A movie is different from a tv series.
>Why are they milking Fate so hard when other T-M stories sold so good?
F/Z
F/UBW
F/HF
How is that milking? Also the thing with Fate is that it sells much more merch because of rabid waifufags
Even then how is this a surprise? The Tsukihime anime back in 2003 had no animation and it averaged like 15k or more.
Do you know how high that is when production values are 0(since it's a fucking indie game) and the damn thing comes from an unknown company?
TM things always sell fine.
Fate/Grand Order is making far, far, far more money.
You cannot even grasp the profits of this new world.
>>143389156
They even invited Shiki in
>>143389156
There's nothing more to tell about TM's other works. Fate is easy, just make a new war and you have a new series. It's extremely easy to make money out of it, anyone can write a new war and Nasu doesn't even care about it. You don't need to write good characters or stuff like in F/SN since the readers this is aimed for don't care about that.
KnK/Tsukihime are the only other stories TM has, but those only work because of the characters.
You can't make Tsukihime spin off without connecting it to the original, you can't make a Kara no Kyoukai spin off without connecting it to the original. People will tell you to fuck off if you don't put the same characters, because those works are based around a group of people.
Fate is like a shonen manga that can be rehashed eternally because all you have to do is tell a story about people fighting with different servants, just check F/Apocrypha, it's basically F/SN with wacky shit going on. The main couple is LITERALLY a rehash of Shirou and Saber and the end is literally the same at that, which at the same time is a rehash from Arc's route.
Go to /fgog/ and you'll see what the Fate fanbase is like, go there and check what they think about the series... Nothing, the people there don't even care about the lore or the verse. They only care about new waifus and ridiculous powerlevels.
That is the fanbase Fate aims for, and that's why it can so easily be milked.
>>143391111
F/GO highest point was the Kara no Kyoukai event. The famous 1million a day lie you faggots spread comes from there, because in the KnK event it managed to reach that.
>>143390724
UBW and F/Z were sold as single boxes only.
>>143391111
It's making far, far, far less money that FGO fags claim.
>>143391427
>F/GO highest point was the Kara no Kyoukai event
F/GO is constantly high. Obviously it spikes during the starting day of event servants, but nevertheless, its day to day profits are large enough that the parent company of their parent company has taken notice of the income source.
>>143391427
You also have series like Mahoyo or El-Melloi Case Files.
>>143391427
To prove a point, name a character like Shirou or Kirei in a spin-off. Name a character like Archer(that's not Archer).
You can't, all you can name is how Gilgamesh now throws genki damas with EA and how Karna has a spear that's supposedly the shit and kills gods and whatnot(even if it never actually DOES anything since it's all hyperbole), oh hey maybe you can talk about how the MC of Apocrypha thansformed into a badass dragon or how Solomon can kill humanity.
>>143391550
https://thinkgaming.com/app-sales-data/62911/fategrand-order/
It fell pretty damn hard.
>>143391625
>70k USD a day
That is hardly low income for how little overhead and maintenance a mobage requires.
Beyond that this is only an estimate.
>>143391567
Mahoyo is not finished and will never be, if Nasu cared he would write it. Well maybe it'll be finished in 20 years when people forget about the original, just like the Tsukihime remake.
El-Melloi case files is a Fate spin-off with Saberfaces.
The other one is DDD that while not really canon to the verse is a good story and could make a good anime or stuff, but same with Mahoyo Nasu doesn't care about it.
>>143391483
Yeah, 1 box for each season at 41K, which is roughly the equivalent of 7K for volume, the standard for Blu ray releases (2 ep for vol). That doesn't change things much.
>>143391866
>That is hardly low income
No, that's a low income.
>>143390724
A movie covering each volume is excellent for F/Z though, in fact movie format is better than for something like F/SN.
>>143391891
>Nasu doesn't care about it.
Nasu work at Tsukihime remake. Stop bitching. He didn't forget about DDD.
>>143392044
We are at an impasse.
>>143392128
> Nasu work at Tsukihime remake.
It's about as relevant as Mahoyo sequels. TM will keep milking out Fate until the universe explodes.
>>143389156
Even Nanoha Movies sold better over 100k mark...
>>143392128
See what I first wrote in the Mahoyo line.
>Well maybe it'll be finished in 20 years when people forget about the original, just like the Tsukihime remake.
It's been 16 years since Tsukihime as of now, the Remake was announced like 8 years ago. How the fuck can Nasu be working on a remake for 8 years? stop being retarded.
He's worse than the fat fuck from Game of Thrones.
>>143392266
They were real movies. And actually did very good for anime movies.
KnK was more like OVA series.
>>143392289
>How the fuck can Nasu be working on a remake for 8 years?
People keep giving him money to work on Fate.
It's not that he doesn't care, it's that he loves money.
>>143389156
Dont underestimate Shiki
>>143390472
m8, 5 and 7 were 116 mins and 121 mins respectively
>>143392368
It's also been 8 years since DDD by the way, and 4 or so since Mahoyo was released.
Also Mahoyo was delayed for years too, It was supposed to be released in 2008, then it got delayed to 2009, 10 and finally released in 12.
>>143389156
Because KnK was a self contained story and theTsukihime animewas shit
hey, at least we're getting Tsukihime remake at some point
>>143390472
40 minutes or longer is feature length
>>143389156
>there is almost no knk porn
>no porn of yougi raping azaka either
>>143390472
5 was 116 min and 7 was 121 mins
>>143392289
>Mahoyo
>F/E
>F/CCC
And right now you have Tsuki remake trailer, new character designs and envelopment designs in every Type Moon ace. And more important why are you hyped for Tsuki remake. NO ONE will translate it for you. Do you read CCC, DDD? There is 3.5 anons in /a/ including me who can read this shit. Stop bitching.
>>143392485
Do you think authors care if their anime is shit or not? They are happy about getting an anime at all. And even if it's shitty it was still extremely popular and profitable.
Do you think the people at T-M care about beast lair/reddit memes? Hell back then everyone on /b/ loved the Tsukihime anime.
>>143392875
I can read japanese and I don't give a fuck about CCC.
The trailer was like 3 years ago and everything they've shown so far in magazines is the same as the trailer.
And stop posting shit characters
>>143392970
> Hell back then everyone on /b/ loved the Tsukihime anime.
Must be a bunch of filthy secondaries, I presume.
>>143393107
>everything they've shown so far in magazines is the same as the trailer.
What? That's not true at all. Try harder
>I can read japanese
>don't give a fuck about CCC.
Sure
>>143392875
L-let's talk about DDD, anon.
>>143393211
>What? That's not true at all. Try harder
Except it is.
The only new things we've seen are:
-Sky view of the mansion, concept art of sorts.
-Shiki/Nanatsu Yoru
-Arihiko
-Noel
That's it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4ff-PtT6Y
>Sure
I don't care about F/E the game is awful and the gameplay is literal garbage, the story won't get me through it since I don't like gilgameme or the sluts either.
Asides from that, I simply don't care about anything Fate related that's not F/SN and to a REALLY lesser extent F/Z. Well I've been reading Strange Fake I guess, Narita always manages to hook me up.
>>143393134
You're just new.
>>143393441
>I don't care about F/E the game is awful and the gameplay is literal garbage,
Try saying that to Moogy and Co where it's literally nothing but praise on the sequel. I'm sure anyone here can pretend to know moon when they can't even summarize even the basic outline of the story.
Why do I like Shiki's design so much?
>>143393865
It's the jacket.
Also, is the anon who posted/scanned >>142060578 here by any chance?
>>143393865
Same face as Saber, same hair as Ayako.
Well to be fair Takeuchi can only draw 2 faces nowadays.
>>143393861
>Try saying that to Moogy and Co where it's literally nothing but praise on the sequel.
And it's certainly not because of the gameplay.
You don't seem to understand but games are supposed to have good gameplay, the story is secondary if the game is unplayable shit.
And why are you so upset over the fact that I don't care about Extra? Jesus christ fuck off retard, I simply do not care about Fate spin-offs, fuck off.
>>143391111
>can't even pass PAD
Step it up senpai
>>143393865
Because it's perfect, it's relatively simple, insttantly recognisable and fits with the character thematically.
>>143393367
I don't even know what we can to discuss here about DDD. Who was burning ghost in first volume? Makina's hallucination? Fomalhaut's abilities? Dream in last chapter?
>>143394209
Doesn't DDD have a delicious trap? We need porn of that. And more translations. In fact, when the fuck was the last translation done?
>>143391625
It was top 3 during the beginning of the event, it is always like this, KnK was no different.
>>143394209
>Who was burning ghost in first volume? Makina's hallucination?
Who knows. Remember that man who calls himself the Devil? It was mentioned that he seemed to disappear after ruining baseball for everyone. It could be him shapeshifting.
Fomalhaut's abilities?
I'm really curious about this. It's probably got something to do with the scar in his chest. I hope Nasu covers it. We know his background but not how he became an Agonist.
Dream in last chapter?
I don't even know to what extent one should call it a dream. IIRC The last lines of vt. are Arika receiving a call from Tomato telling him that Origa is in chaos. I wouldn't be surprised if that was real. It doesn't contradict any events of the DDD timeline.
What I really want to know are the details of the Kairyou Mansion that caused its demolition in 1986.
>>143393865
fuck off
>>143391569
If we talk about Extra, what about Hakuno?
He/she has a pretty decent character arc.
>>143394122
>can't even pass Candy Crush
Step it up senpai
>>143394081
>Backpedals the argument to saying the gameplay is shit and doesn't save the game
>CCC improves the gameplay to the point of being playable
>Literally admitted to not have played CCC after quitting on Extra
LOL, stay classy EOPs
>>143394797
Isn't Tomato used Arika as shield in the last moment?
>>143394596
it was some novel that nasu started writing at some point i think.
>>143391427
>Nothing, the people there don't even care about the lore or the verse. They only care about new waifus and ridiculous powerlevels.
It's okay, you don't want to play the games/read the novels, we understand.
>>143395138
Yeah, that's the last thing to happen in the dream.
After Arika wakes up, Tomato calls him to inform him that Kanata is running wild.
Maybe it's wrapping things up this way that gave Nasu an excuse to not continue writting this series until Sora no Soto.
>>143394596
decoration disorder disconnection
current translation is shit so don't bother.
>>143395636
why are the translations shit
I wouldn't mind a KnK continuation/spin off if it was about either Mana or Azaka.
>>143395809
fan translations of any Japanese medium with text tend to be 99% shit, just look at a well done official one and none of them can even compare.
>>143395985
I want an adventures of Touko series.
>PSSHHSHSHHH kid the character
Why do people like her?
>>143396029
but why? i mean manga translations tend to be pretty good, and that requires text as well.
>>143395985
Yeah. We don't need something new. Who cares about new things in Nasuverse world? Werewolves, demons, fairies, mages, ghosts? Nah, let me eat some shit about Mana and Azaka.
>>143395809
It's the translation of a translation.
>>143396188
Not like anything gets translated anyway.
>>143396188
Glad we're in the same channel, senpai.
>>143396188
>being this mad
>>143396068
>tfw KnK is literally just "edgy can kill anything gary stu meets perfect everyone loves them mary sue" with genders reverse
>but still love it anyway
>>143395559
It's worst chapter tho. Suddenly x-men bullshit. I need more meta things like more information about closed district where everyone looks like you.
>>143396206
what for? are they translating it from chinese or something
>>143396268
Shiki is not a Mary Sue, Mikiya is. Even more considering the whole Jesus thing he has going on.
>>143389156
Weren't the discs super expensive too? And yet they sold out incredibly fast. I think Shiki and Kokuto's VAs getting married added to the fan wank.
>>143396380
They're translating from russian. The original russian translation was already questionable. He even changed a couple of character names at some moment.
>>143396471
i wonder if they dress up like their characters to have sex
>>143396538
why not just translate from the original japanese
>>143396393
You missed the "with genders reverse" part
>>143396593
But you said that Shiki is a Mary sue.
Gary Stu and Mary Sue are the same thing.
>>143396343
It was just filler, but I still liked it.
Vol.2 was entertaining. FOMALHAUT and S.vs.S were great. Manga adaptation when.
>>143396105
There's less text and art helps in understanding how to translate.
>tfw KnK manga does things a bit differently
>Shiki fights the dolls and Araya wearing tight pants
Unf
>>143396674
okay, fine, Shiki is a female version of the edgy deviantart OC that we're all familiar with but apparently aren't calling the thing we normally call it because that offends you. Whatever. The substance of the point is completely unchanged by the semantics.
>>143396700
What's this, homicidal killers the crossover?
>>143396813
>no kimono
literally why
>>143396813
GGNNHHH
>MuhDick!
>>143396878
Because the artist figured it just isn't possible to maneuver so well in a kimono no matter how high quality it is.
>>143396813
>no kimono
delete this
>>143396805
NANAYA IS NOT A HOMICIDAL KILLER, HE ONLY KILLS ABOMINATIONS THAT SHOULDN'T EXIST.
Stop with the false accusations about my husbando, he does it for (You) and the rest of humanity.
>>143389860
>cash grab that was Mirai Fukuin.
It was a 10/10 cash grab.
>>143396813
Source
Now
>>143397286
The official manga apparantly
>>143392412
>>143392685
>the two best movies were also the only ones to be actual movie length
Who could have guessed?
>>143397868
>no kimono
FUCKING DISGUSTING
>>143392643
Have you read this?
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/934039/4f00d2b966/
>>143395985
They were really perfect together.
I hope they are going to appear in Mahoyo since last chapter takes place in 2010.
>>143395985
>Mana solving a mystery with her guardian
>aunt Azaka dotes on her
>Touko gives Mana a fancy gadget that gives limited protection
>a few scenes of Shiki and Kokuto sitting on the porch talking DEEP shit while holding hands
>Mana gets into trouble but outwits the villain a few times
>Mama Shiki arrives and chops the villain
>>143398717
Why would they? Why would Aoko hang around Touko's friends?
>>143398817
Touko leaves after KnK 7.
>>143398817
That's fucking awful please never write anything.
>>143398831
Touko is gone from there for 10 years. While Aoko still appears in town.
>>143398817
It's far more likely that she somehow gets involved with Aoko or Alice.
>>143398928
All right Nasu come up with something better
A reminder that the KnK soundtrack was one of the best things about those movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6giSDP-PQtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k06slNKs6A4
>>143399578
>that track from Movie 7 where she weeps remembering the fun times she had with Kokuto
;_;
>>143389515
Go easy on him, he might not even be an ESL but merely have watched the TDKR plane scene so many times that HE DIDN'T FLY SO GOOD is permanently ingrained in his mind.
>>143398717
Does Mahoyo take place in KnK continuity instead of Tsukihime's?
KnK is the only type moon I've seen
>>143400120
>implying even Nasu knows
>>143389156
only correct answer
>>143400160
Prisma is the only other one worth watching. Fate is horrible.
>>143389156
How fucking new are you? Movies always sell a lot more than tv series.There are tv anime with less than 10k sales whose movies sold +20k.
>>143400274
You mean Carnival Phantasm is the only other one.
>>143400274
Prisma is pretty boring without reading Fate, the four loli kisses with some masturbation aside.
>>143389156
> movies sell the same as tv series
How fucking retarded are you m8
>>143400332
>>143401222
In case you don't know most anime movies sell in 20-30k range.
And KnK is more like an OVA series.
