Remind me why this jabroni doesn't drop himself onto the pointy end of a stick after he makes colossal fuck ups like in last ep?
Also I swear if we are rewinding into that courtroom with the Britain's Got Talent selection procedure it will be the straw that breaks the droppers back.
>>143373104
He doesn't know where the checkpoint is retard. He could be sent back to the mansion and would have to go through everything again.
>falseflagging
>>143373163
Which is why I said colossal fuck ups, as in fuck ups great enough to go through shit again. It isn't like he can't "game the system" again, he knows how to play. Tedious maybe, but worth it to erase a fuck up.
>b-but that isn't fun to watch
then the writer shouldn't give him such a shitty power to start with. If using the power "properly" leads to a boring show, then the power is shit.
>>143373163
Great, he'd have a chance to stop the dog before anyone gets cursed and avoid the whole broken mana gate thing.
>>143373467
>Get bitten by stray dog
>Die in sleep
>Wew I wonder if it was the dog
>Get bitten by dog again
How do people enjoy this show, it's a typical "cool premise ruined by dumb MC/writing".
>>143373104
It hurts?
>>143374095
Because getting beat up until you are unconscious and then some instead is painless amirite
>>143373104
Why didn't he just stay in the timeloop where he dies painlessly in his sleep long enough to learn how to do anything useful. Seriously isn't this dude a shut in? Surely he's seen this gimmick before
>>143373104
>implying MC can think straight
Remember this dipshit is the same one that keeps calling Emilia "Emilia-tan"
>>143373307
>then the writer shouldn't give him such a shitty power to start with. If using the power "properly" leads to a boring show, then the power is shit.
The power is shit and the writer is bad.
What a fucking retard.
This just made me realize it's been forever since he looped. I'd almost forgotten what the show was about.
>>143373104
>jabroni
>jabron
Ha! Cool word.
>>143376011
>tan
Will never understand why they chose to make him do this.
It's like having an anglo call Emillia, "Emiwia", or Sarah, "Sewah".
This show is probably the worst of the season, quite simply because it wastes the most potential. There are maybe shows that are "worse", but they were expected to be bad. This actually had a somewhat decent premise.
>>143376859
Yeah can't believe how badly this author shit the bed with his protagonist.
>>143376711
>>143376728
This is now a leatherman thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPJvGMYxDPs
>>143376907
It's intentional mate. He's essentially an anti-self insert character. He's not supposed to be charismatic, likeable, smart or anything positive, really.
Mandatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX8ZeZJqOE0
>>143376964
What makes you think I care? He is complete shit and ruining the show. I don't give a fuck if it's intentional, that doesn't make it good if that is what you are implying.
>>143377057
And I don't give a fuck about what you think about him and your inability to self-insert as him.
>>143376964
Nobody really self inserted with lelouch, to just name a random example, either, but at least he wasn't quite this annoying.
>>143377088
Then don't fucking reply you dumbfuck.
>>143377088
>I-It's intentionally supposed to be retarded you pleb, you cant criticize it because of that
>>143377088
Stop having shit taste.
>>143377008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyW-_aBDUTY
>>143377136
You can criticize it all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the author loathes self-insert characters and has intentionally made Subaru an unlikeable, autistic shit, eventually getting better as he suffers and loses that spark in him.
>>143373307
starting back from the last checkpoint doesn't help you as much if you can still figure more of the plot before hitting reset.
>>143373691
why would he think a normal looking dog is what killed him later in his sleep? especially when next he was killed by someone else in a suit of armor?
>>143377132
But how would I get all these (You)s then?
>>143377165
Shut up leatherman and get in the damn ass
>>143376859
>This actually had a somewhat decent premise.
>time travel
"no"
>>143377168
Making him obnoxious doesnt make him a good character, neither does the suffering.
"Being able to self insert" means fucking nothing in the context of being a good character.
>>143377168
WOW the author hates self inserts so he makes a character that is complete shit for his own story effectively decreasing the quality!
He is as retarded as you! Hahaha
>>143377168
>the writer is making intentionally retarded unlikable characters
That is the writers equivalent of "I was just pretending to be retarded".
I'm personally looking forward to seeing how the anime handles hissuffering and torture.EspeciallyRems soul.I can only imagine that will be the finale. What a place to end it.
>>143377253
Do tell me, what makes someone a good character?
>>143377258
How is he complete shit for his own story. Explain.
>>143377265
I fail to see the logic in that.
>>143377240
The premise was the battle royale'ish thing going on for the throne, time travel was the gimmick. But then the writer got scared and flipped things right upside down.
>>143377303
>Do tell me, what makes someone a good character?
Good writing. Something this show has not.
>>143377174
nigga how the fuck did that dog look normal to you with that huge ass bald spot on his head
he was the george costanza of evil dogs
>>143377324
You're watching an anime based on a light and web novel. If these people could write, they would be creating actual novels.
>>143377339
And?
>>143377303
>I fail to see the logic in that.
Why would you make a character intentionally shit? Not just unlikeable, but objectively bad, inconsistent. There is no reason. So going around and saying "I did it on purpose so people wouldn't be able to self insert because it is such a badly written character" is the same as a person who makes a retarded post but only realizes this later turning around and saying "I was only pretending to be retarded".
>>143377417
How is he bad or inconsistent? Tell me. Back up your arguments you faggot.
>>143377265
Haven't even seen this show, but don't be such an autist. Writing characters who are unlikable is a literary technique employed in stories almost certainly much better than this one, by writers like Raynd, Camus, and Dostoyevsky. I hope you're not just using "unlikable" as a substitute for "I didn't care about the character," the latter being actually endemic to a work.
>Subaru
Damn right, he's a cluster-fuck.
>>143377303
I am saying that he made a unlikable character because of the dumbest reason possible, specially because this is how this author gets his paycheck. Are you getting paid to keep this threads alive? I see so much low quality bait in this threads.
>>143377509
That's still not an explanation of why or how he is a bad character. Back up your arguments. Come the fuck on.
>>143377524
Read the thread you fucking retard.
>>143377493
>autist
>follows it up by casually comparing seasonal anime to the likes of Dostoyevsky
Never change /a/, never change.
>>143377524
What the fuck are you on about? HIS CHARACTER IS OBNOXIOUS AND MAKING HIM THAT WAY BECAUSE THE AUTHOR HATES SELF INSERTS IS NOT JUSTIFIABLE HOLY FUCK.
>>143377548
Nobody has explained what I'm asking, dingaling. You clearly have no real argument and are just shitposting for the sake of it.
>muh bad character can't self insert
>>143377581
Fuck off with your low quality bait at least read you piece of shit. Ah fuck you, I'll just sage from now on.
>>143377580
There is nothing wrong with having an obnoxious character. Obnoxious people exist in real life as well. I have met and had to deal with people whom I sometimes wanted to strangle the life out of. That is not an argument as to why he is a bad character. There is no necessity for your protagonist to be a likeable person, especially in a web novel. I seriously think you're this angry just because you can't symphatize with him or self insert as him.
>>143377524
>"I'll do anything for you Emillia-tan"
>makes him make an obvious "if you break this shit's gonna not be pretty for you" promise
>he agrees
>she makes sure he agrees
>he agrees
>she leaves the room
>"yo blue doll, I need you to help me break this promise"
I mean, is he loyal to her or not? It wasn't like she was in any danger, or that she needed protecting from something only he knew of and needed to break the promise for. No he causally broke for no other reason than FORCED DRAMA. Inconsistent as fuck character.
>>143377621
Oh well. You should've just admitted you can't even write a short bit to back up your argument instead of going on and working up such a fuzz.
>>143377565
>> attacks approach but not my point
This does not refute my argument in any way. I'm not saying anime should be held to literary standards, you absolute almond. I'm saying a technique common in good literature is being used here, and neither the story nor the character must necessarily be worse off because of it. In fact, it usually makes the character more interesting to watch. You were the one who made blanket generalizations here: >>143377265
I haven't.
>>143377622
>I want my anime, that has no significant deeper meaning and is supposed to be casual fun, to have an MC that is so annoying that it reminds me of people I want to strangle in real life.
I see we have some well adjusted healthy people in this thread.
>>143377622
Hey retard just read for fucking once. My complain is that he is a obnoxious character. Do you even know what that means? I know you want to change the discussion to one you can semi justify his shit so go fuck yourself.
>>143377643
>inconsistent
Except that no. He's a complete moron and it's completely with his character to act as such.
Emilia knew that Subaru would come with her and fuck things up, which is why she made him promise, but since Emilia is too kind for her own good, she would not and could not tell Subaru that she's afraid he'll fuck everything up for her. Which is the exact reason Subaru went there in the first place. Because Emilia did not explain to him properly what's going on.
Have you not been following the series? Subaru has pretty much no understanding of proper social behaviour, can't notice social ques and in general acts like a massive autist. In addition, at this point he lives solely to protect those close to him, so denying him that purpose without anything resembling a proper explanation will naturally cause him to sperg out.
>>143377670
I'm all in for casual fun, but I welcome attempts at something better, or different as well. In fact, I've grown somewhat bored of the casual fun as a lot of different media and actions offer better enjoyment for me than seasonal cashcows.
>>143377709
And being an obnoxious character is not being a bad character, dingus. That is what I've been arguing for.
>>143377622
>Dude, you're eating shit
>Yes and?
>You're eating shit!
>I know. It tastess and smells terrible, but hey it doesnt mean its bad.
>>143377645
>Argument
That he is obnoxious? Okay, half the time the character is spouting cringe shit like -Tan and other Otaku crap, the other half he is screaming and getting himself into shit because he has a big mouth, he acts without shame and can't read situations almost always so he has to die to notice his mistakes.
>>143377769
>That is what I've been arguing for.
I don't care what you are arguing for? I came here arguing that he is an obnoxious character.
When did I wander into /lit/?
>>143377790
Where in the flying fuck did you people get the idea that I'm talking about him being obnoxious. I'm talking about Subaru being a bad character. Being obnoxious does not make him into one.
>>143377827
So why the fuck would you reply to my different argument with your own posts then?
>>143377769
I knew this guy wanted to shift the discussion to his character because that's the only discussion he knows he can win in. Pathetic.
>>143377888
BECAUSE YOU KEEP REPLYING TO ME WANTING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION I DID NOT INITIATE. HURRRRRRRRRRR
>>143377783
>observing something that's not immediately pleasurable to you personally is the same as eating shit
How does it feel to be a little fucking baby?
>>143377920
You replied to me first, you know. I've simply been answering to all the (You)s.
>>143377906
The fact that there's people defending this character so hard makes it obvious that this author failed at making the character not self-insertable.
>>143378006
I doubt anyone was able self insert though. That doesnt mean that he'll be hated by everyone.
>>143378006
It may come as a shock, but there are people out there who don't actually try to insert themselves in a story, and so aren't personally insulted when a fictional character doesn't behave the way they want it to.
>>143378045
According to the author, self inserts are likable characters. People here defend him and like him so they must obviously self insert as him.
>>143378085
Okay and? There's also people that self insert into annoying characters like him.
>>143378090
I hate to tell you this anon, but some people don't watch anime to shove themselves inside it. Self inserts aren't done by everyone, and a shitty protagonist is a nice change. The argument that he is obnoxious and clueless don't mean the anime is bad, it means the protagonist isn't some perfect or remotely likeable person. And for those who aren't faggots who want to insert themselves into the story it is an interesting thing.
>>143377988
his intentions are good, but he's using it as an excuse to do whatever without considering the consequences. everything he does is righteous and good because he's the one doing it.
>>143378183
Wow, your argument is shit. The character is directly being obnoxious to the viewer because no one that matters in-story has called him out on his obnoxious behavior. There's nothing fresh when the character flaws can only be seen by the viewer, and it's plain fucking stupid when you degrade your own character because you hate self inserts which I think is a complete lie by the way. I mean come on this guy gave this kid all those cringe as shit words because he wants this character to a have connection to Otakus so that they can self insert. The funny thing is that the reason I dislike this character is because of the shitty self insert pandering this author is doing.
>>143378314
He was called out multiple times in the past episode? And in episode 8?
>>143378085
People actually self-insert as the MC? I don't think over my 9 years of anime I have ever tried to portray the MC as myself. How much autism does one have to see themselves in a character?
>>143377303
Consistency.
Being a retard who takes several deaths to save himself is not good writing. Yeah figuring shit out in 2-3 episodes probably would make him a Kirito but save scumming is sadly a hard to balance ability; you either have to make MC a retard or he becomes the same sinner has other critically panned MCs.
Depressingly I'd rather have Kirito; at least the pacing would go somewhere even if its cancerous masturbatory wank.
>>143377622
Mirai Nikki and Shimoneta have obnoxious MCs and people rightfully shit on them. Subaru is the same brand of annoying but with death looping rather than crazy bitches.
>>143378006
Obnoxious characters can be self-inserts
>>143377088
>Princess Felt will never swallow you
Why live
![[HorribleSubs] Flying Witch - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.13_[2016.06.26_17.00.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eU8Xhts.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Flying Witch - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.13_[2016.06.26_17.00.18].jpg")
>that ending
Jesus.
I'm an aspie and even I have more articulate communication skills than Subaru.
>>143379090
Subaru is pretty much the Sonichu kind of autist.
>>143378363
>How much autism does one have to see themselves in a character?
/a/ loves to mock blatant self-insert characters, but when anything different comes up, they lose their shit, so, yeah...
>>143373307
Limit the power, not the MC's intelligence and personality.
>>143373104
Keeeeeeek, this thread reminds me of the first SnK threads after it got popular, when /a/ was too autistic to actually address the new fanbase in the generals so there were obvious bait threads every couple of days as a way to vent the frustration where they circlejerked each other about how bad it was now, despite how they had never heard about the show before it got popular, when the threads were dead. Glad to see that the herd mentality of the sheeps never changes
>>143373163
I thought he knew the checkpoint would send him back every 4 days?
>>143373104
He has no idea why he keeps rewinding and has no way to be sure it will happen again the next time he dies. At least that was his reasoning at some point during the mansion arc, and it does make sense.
>>143377331
He hasn't been accustomed to see monsters yet. And he only sees that one puppy while staying here.
And he's clearly not in Dumbledore level to scan for magic remains either.
>>143373104
Fuck you!
