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Cont: >>143326587

Why'd they fuck up Goku's SSJ2 hair in this episode but clearly get it right in the preview for the next one?
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>SS2
You mean yellower hair?
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SHIGGYDIGGYDOO
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>>143338384

There are clear differences.
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Future Trunks sees Mai in sexy vision
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why is everyone so fucking SHINY
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>>143338607
pedo Tranks? but it's a normal reaction since recently he saw er dead.
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>>143338628
because they're fucking retarded and make areas unnecessarily "brighter"
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>>143338829
Much better.
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>>143338328
Use the catalog retard >>143336178
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The philippines are at it again?
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When will best girl return?
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>>143338812
She's older than him
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>>I know, she said she was forty
>>143339333
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Kinda mad how they're not mentioning that Future trunks isn't actually from the future, but from an alternate timeline, which is also the future.
They should really call him Alt-F4 trunks, with Alternate referring to a different timeline, F referring to future, and 4 referring to how many different time lines there are now mentioned, God dammit trunks.
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>>143338328
Because Toei is fucking incompetent.
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>>143338955
>look mom I posted it again!
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goku no piccolo
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>>143340590
He was always from an alt future. If he was from The future, he would have gotten everything back to "normal" back to The future style. With his father alive and goku still around.
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>trunks didn't even let boo wake up
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OK

SOMEBODY IN FRIEZA ARMY WISHED FOR GOKU TO BE ALIVE AGAIN AND TO BE BAD

BAD TO THE BONE DEHDEHDEH DEH DEH REH
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>>143340877
Kill yourself, newfag.
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>>143341194
smart guy, because he didn't stand a chance against buu
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>>143341275
no you
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>>143339210
we'll need to rely on monaka once again, it seems
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>>143341194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGp9P6QvMjY
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>>143341275
die /v/ faggot
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>>143341616
no u
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Vegeta is always second best
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>God form actually returns in the manga
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>30 posts in
>no radditz fags yet
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>>143338328
because he didn't go ssj2
he just raised his powerlevel to trunks while being in ssj1
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>>143338328
Because who gives a fuck
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>>143342469
he did nothing wrong
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>>143342439
What the fuck? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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>>143342795
yes it does. He wants Hit to improve his skills and get too strong to be defeated, just like he did for every villain after freeza
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>>143339333
>She's older than him
By two or three years top. Seeing her as a child along with kid Trunks isn't that surprising. He looked like that because his own Mai just died.
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>>143343005
no she's 7 years older or something because she's around 40 and he's around 33
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>>143343207
>she's around 40 and he's around 33
Bullshit. They never said F.Mai's biological age (or F.Trunks, for that matter).

>no she's 7 years older
I don't think so. Two or Three years top.
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>>143343207
>>143343407
Wait, forget all that. You're not talking about her biological age, right? That's why you said she's 40. I should have known you're one of those retards making a big deal out of Mai's original age. Get over it already.
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>>143338812
but she is older than future trunks
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>>143342795
both the manga and the anime are inconsistent as fuck so yes like the old times
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>>143343503
>>143343407
she's as old as goku or maybe even older and goku is an old grandpa
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>>143343629
Get over it.
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>>143342742

honestly, how can you be so pathetic and talk about a character that lasted for 5 episodes 20 years ago?
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>>143343005
>only by two or three
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>>143343629
>goku is an old grandpa
Goku is in his early 40's tops.
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>>143343963
He is a grandpa though. explain that

checkmate
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>>143344014
He's a young grandpa then.
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>>143345594
Fuck off, retard.
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>>143343963
ages in dragonball are fucked up anyway.

Bulma - 46
Chi-Chi - 43
Future Bulma - 63
Future Trunks - 31
Gohan - 22
Goku - 43
Goten - 13
Krillin - 43
Piccolo - 26
Tien Shinhan - 47
Trunks - 14
Vegeta - 48
Yamcha - 47

and none of them look their age.
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>>143342795
Base > SS1 > SS2 > SS3 > Saiyan Beyond God > SBG+SS1 > SBG+SS2 >SBG+SS3 > SSG > SSB
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>>143345794
I don't think you know the proper usage of < and >
turn all you > into < and you're right
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>>143345855
I know, I just think this way looks more aesthetically pleasing.
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>>143345794
What the fuck is Saiyan Beyond God?
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>>143345766
Saiyans age really slowly.
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>>143345984
beyond king kai
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>>143346093
So Saiyan Saga?
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>>143342439
This basically confirms that SSG < SSB
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>>143342795
>>143343576
>>143345984
So many idiots
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>>143346089
yeah, I know that but does krillin look like 43 or tien and yamcha close to 50?
I know that bulma looks young, just like her mother and the combination of her genes and saiyan genes make trunks look so young. but that doesn't explain the other humans
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>>143346271
I blame the lack of detail.
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>>143346243
Wow...so this is the power....of retardation....woah....
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kuro goku will go ssj next episode
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Goku no piccolo
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this episode was QUALITY as fuck especially trunks, are there any screenshots?
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>>143343963
Goku, while nearing 40 years' old, is barely 30 because you need to subtract about 8 years between his 2 deaths.

Vegeta was already a teenager when Planet Vegeta was destroyed, Vegeta must've been at least 20 years older than Goku
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>>143347022
I think this one had potential
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>>143347058
Yeah I think Future Trunks is about as old (or slightly younger) as Goku in Super
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>>143347264
>mom is making me eat phallic pink things in front of dad
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I've been ignoring super
Is the anime a straight adaptation of the manga?
Who is subbing the anime?
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>>143342439
But isn't Base Goku basically SSJGod ?
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>>143341194
Saved him a lot of trouble
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>>143347478

No the anime and manga are pretty different. Goku didn't use Super Saiyan God in the anime. He went straight SSB, etc.
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>>143342439
He actually didn't do the Kaioken-blue thin, and Hit didn't have his dumb constant power-up where he could stop time for a full sec
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>>143345766
That's nothing, Bulma's parents are like, in their 70s by Z.
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>>143347478
The manga is an adaptation of the anime.
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>>143341194
>literally how it would have ended in the regular timeline if Vegeta didn't fuck shit up
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>>143347714
>>143347808
I'm surprised, I'll watch the anime then
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>>143341194
At least Goku stated that Trunks went SSJ2, so it makes sense that he could beat Dabura. At first I was kind of confused about how he could've beaten him.
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>>143347808
No it's not. Both anime and manga are adaptations of Toriyama"s script.
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>>143347803
Truly made for grade schoolers
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I just realized a really dumb, cliche as fuck potential reason for Black Goku.

He's only wearing one earring, what if there are like 'Opposite Portaro' earrings that instead of combining two people, it splits one person into good and evil.

Even Goku has SOME evil within him, and it being twisted into some nigga that goes around destroying evil races like the Saiyans and claiming it's Justice is literally what an evil side of Goku would be.
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>>143347495
No, he absorbed the God Ki but that doesn't mean his base form uses it all. It was basically he absorbed 6 months of Wis training for his base form, and can use the actual SSG form when he needs too while Veg can't.
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>>143338328
You guys, have you noticed the symbol in Goku Black's ring? It's the Time Breaker's Insignia!
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I unironically liked Toyotarou's artstyle. Looks pretty mediocre, but it's light, neat and really refreshing

>>143348112
Most probably that this "black goku" is doing the universe a greater good, since Trunks have been jumping through time and shit and the nigger only wanted to restore the balance of his timeline

Screencap this shit
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>>143346216
Namek Saga.
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>>143348416
>pretty mediocre
No it's doesn't dumbass
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>>143343869
This Mai is actually the same one from the future, but she is from the future after being revived, memory wiped and sent back in time to when Goku was a kid.
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>>143348590
Toyotarou plz
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>>143348397
...SON OF A BITCH, IT IS.
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>>143338328

There are shots in the episode where Goku doesn't have a mouth and you complain about hairy details?
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>>143338607
That ass is phat
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>>143348685
GOD DAMN IT ALL

THIS IS ALL THE WORK OF DEMON PRINCESS DEVIANTART FANGIRL!
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Are these two the most comfy characters in shonen history?
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>>143348721
I'd say, in her case, plump.
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>>143342535
>lightning all around him
>B-BUH HE DIDN'T GO SSJ2 GUIES RELY!
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>Future trunks just murdered Dabura and Babidi without dealing with their buu shit
Sasuga.
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>>143348780

YES
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>>143348783
I want Beerus to babysit the kids.
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>>143348833
It's Vegeta's fault, as always
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>>143348602
THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>143348833
That arc should've ended like that. Vegeta was a mistake after all, smhfam.
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>>143348780
>>143348883
I didnt play Xenoverse. Is this bitch the first girl since 18 (Vados isn't technically a villain) that isn't shit?

Also how strong is Demigra?
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Pixiv Mai tag? I want to see if there are any loli porn of her yet.
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>>143348810

All SSJ summon lightning.
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>>143348602
>>143349005
Sure, but why have Pilaf and Shu with her?
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>>143349038

Towa is the best girl desu famalam.
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>>143347478
just read manga
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>>143349079
Why not?
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>>143349052
All of this shots except the SSj3 one is non-canon garbage.

Still no footage of SSj with lightning
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>Kaio-Shin Sama explains time and time again that using the Dragon Balls should be prohibited because it disrupts the balance of time and space.
>Jaco explains that manipulating time is a crime, so does Whis.
>Whis once again explains that time manipulation is a crime and why.
>Bumla dosent fucking care.
>Goku Black is Goku, Goku was supposed to die, be reincarnated, and become a agent of justice.
>He isnt doing anything evil, he is just acting similar to how Beerus does.
>His job is to destroy anything that has been corrupted time wise.
>The green one is the one who appointed him because Bulma threw the whole fucking universe into chaos.

Goku Black is also a god, if you need proof, look how skinny he is, it is Goku but younger, reincarnated as a god.
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>>143349038
Towa is literally a deviantart fangirl. She makes a demon cell husbando that can go Demon Super Saiyan, is Dabura's sister and therefore a demon princess, kidnaps Bardock and makes him her personal attack dog, combines Cell and Lavos, and dresses like a slut, and somehow gets a "darkness" form that is even MORE revealing. >>143348883

Demigra is God tier, but much weaker than Beerus and terrified of Whis.
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>>143349129
Why Pilaf and not Raditz? Both have the same voice actor, so... He should've joined the trio in the kid stage.Little Big Bro moments with Kakarot.
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>>143349038
>built up his powerlevel for millions of years.
>Beaten by a Create your own character Mary Sue .
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>>143349294
>Demigra is God tier, but much weaker than Beerus and terrified of Whis.

Dropped

Shit arc
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>>143349378
Demigra was a shit addition, anyways. Didn't had any place to exist before and after Xenoverse 1.
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>>143349378
Beerus actually DID want to kill him, because Demigra tried to mind control him. It doesn't work because Beerus is a God, but such a thing, in his own worlds, is "blasphemy."

Trunks pleads with Beerus to let them handle it so the fight doesn't end up destroying all of time.

Beerus then beats the everloving shit out of Trunks and YOUR ORIGINAL CHARACTER to make sure you're up to the task.
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>>143349613
own words
jesus how long have i been awake
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>Future Trunks brutally murders Babidi and Dabura without ever letting Buu out of his prison

Is Trunks like the only non-retarded Saiyan with the strength to protect his planet? Because I'm pretty sure there were 10+ Saiyans on Earth when the present timeline Buu blew up the entire planet. Yet Future Trunk's planet was never blown up.
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>trunks actually got shit done in his time
alright, which episode does the current arc start at? I'm finally watching this
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>>143349613
>because Demigra tried to mind control him. It doesn't work because Beerus is a God
>Demigra
>mind control him

Oh no its him ,please fucking no
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>>143349733
47
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>>143349754
Nigga BLACK HAS THE SAME EARRING AS DEMIGRA.

It's even the same fucking color.

There's never been doubt.
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>>143349671
>Yet Future Trunk's planet was never blown up.

Whats there to blow up anymore :^)
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>>143348381
Then how is vegeta going SSB all the damn time?
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>>143349671
Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan, Goten.

That's 5 saiyans.

Trunks and Goten were two young too really do anything til they learned fusion, and even then, fusion made them cocky so they fucked it up.

Gohan got rekt buy Buu because of Vegeta being a prick.

Goku didn't want to fight Vegeta because that helped wake Buu up, but Vegeta was being a prick.

In short, Vegeta fucked everything up.

Goku and Gohan would have dealt with it like F.Trunks did probably, except maybe Goku needing to fight Dabura.
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>>143349912
>BLACK HAS THE SAME EARRING AS DEMIGRA.
>he actually does

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
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>>143349851
thank you
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>>143338328
Again Trunksfags, kind of stupid.

>Is Trunks like the only non-retarded Saiyan with the strength to protect his planet?
Well judging by the current state of it and I would say no.

>FSN
Shit taste too
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>>143348112
>Even Goku has SOME evil within him
You what mate?
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>People crying about Demigra potentially being in Super and being canon

But then that means the Supreme Loli of Time could be in too.
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>>143349877
>>143349912
>>143350079
What about the faggot kaio with the white hair?
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I haven't followed the story since dbgt, is there a quick summary/tldr to the story so far?
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>>143350108
Who do you think he BLACKED first?
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>>143350072
>>143348912
Yamcha is that you?
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I know they're skirting around the inevitable SSB Vegito fusion by revealing shit like Beerus+Whis and Arale+Towa, but dammit I'm ready.
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>>143350191
Everyone that was supposed to be killed by the androids
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>>143350084
Meant to reply to >>143349671
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>>143347420
Legendary SS Broly is probably stronger than Whis and Beerus.

I mean, think about it. Broly destroyed not only numerous planets and stars, but an entire galaxy, and they never went to say shit to him about it.
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>>143349982
"God Ki" is basically powering up but keeping your Ki inside rather than letting it spill out.

Vegeta trained to do that. Goku pretty much took a shortcut since Beerus said that Goku's body somehow remembers how to tap into the god ki after going SSG

So basically SSG is the power you get from 5 other saiyans pouring their power into you, which possibly means that SSG is just the power of 6 saiyans in one.

SSB is something you can obtain through training, and is possibly weaker than SSG but still stronger than the other SSJ stages, and since it can be tapped into on your own, is more convenient than needing a ritual.

Goku being able to go SSG in the manga just seems strange, but maybe they're explain how later.
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>>143350276
How is future trunks older then now trunks? Aren't they born around roughly the same time?
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this entire episode was great

i wondered for so many years if the buu saga also happened in trunks's timeline and now i finally got the answer i wanted

also it looks like everything is going according to my headcanon and it looks like future trunks will be the new member of team beerus for the next multiverse tournament maybe he could even reach SSJB

>>143350186
the summary is

GT is not canon , go watch the movies first and then pick up the super during the champa tournament
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>>143341194
>Buu is still lying dormant in his timeline

It will be cool if Black or someone wakes Buu up, and we get to see another battle. Especially if he can absorb one of the SSJGods, or Beerus.
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>>143350276
Well no dur,
A. Broly doesn't exist in canon
B. Beerus and Whis weren't made yet
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>>143350276
If Goku can beat Broly, if Goku, Gohan, and Goten can beat Broly, then he's no match for Whis and Beerus.
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>no SSJ3 Trunks
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The shit about Buu didn't make any sense.

Trunks is like 5 years old when Babadi and Dabura come to earth. It would have been under android control at that time, and Dabura could have easily defeated the Androids with his hands tied behind his back.
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>>143350276
broly is weak as fuck and he is also non canon shit
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>>143350406
>literally still no SSJ3 vegeta

I mean, what the fuck.
He skips straight from 2 to 4 in GT, and skips from 2 to God in Super. Someone really doesn't want him SSJ3 for some reason.
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>>143350414
Earth was a fuckin wasteland nigga, there weren't any people to fuel the resurrection.
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>>143338504
Well played!
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>>143350108
>loli of time has your heart and dick all to her
>then onee-san of time design shows up

My head canon is that she can change her form at will, so that way I don't have the dilemma of having to choose!
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>>143350414
It's dimensional punching, we don't have to explain it
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>>143350332
...because he's from THE FUCKING FUTURE
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>>143345766
Gohan is married with a kid before 22.

Welp.
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>>143349912
Yeah. Black could have destroyed the planet but choose to just take a year and hunt down both humans and that one saiyan.
Guess he enjoyed his task
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>>143350414
babidi only appeared because trunks became stronger

before that there wasn't enough energy to revive buu
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>>143349671
>Is Trunks like the only non-retarded Saiyan with the strength to protect his planet?
>Literally comes from a future (twice) where everyone is dead because he couldn't save his planet (twice)
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>>143350414
Everybody's dead, Dave. Who the fuck would they have gotten the energy from to revive Buu?
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>>143350517
>Japan chose a loli over big sister

go fucking figure
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Idiot he's from an alternate time link not the future future. A timeline that coincides with the original timeline.
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So now that Demigra is going to be in the show, is Toryiama could add our Donut Steele's as well?

Ghost Nappa, Degeta, and Taino better damn well make appearances in the Demigra arc.
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>>143345794
I've seen nothing of Super and I am so incredibly lost on what the fucking shit you just said.
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>>143347264
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>>143350694
>is Toryiama could add our Donut Steele's as well?

No, this arc is going to lead into showing how Trunks joined the time patrol. OC Donut Steel comes later.
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>>143350332
why is it so hard for anons to understand timelines

i'll explain it in the most simple way

trunks's time machine is actually a timeline machine

he doesn't go to the past, he creates a timeline that is around the time he wants to be
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>>143345794
You forgot one
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>>143350738
M-moar.
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>>143350652
It's a million times better
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Is SSJ2 Future Trunks really that powerful? I mean he did well against SSJ2 Goku during their sparring session while SSJ3 Gotenks lost to Base Copy Vegeta.
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>>143348810
Lightening just comes when they aren't keeping their ki in check. All forms do it.
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Didn't watch. Can somebody quickly tell me how Goku turned black? Let me guess: mind control?
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>>143350594
Because he wasn't strong enough not because he was dumb like vegeta
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>>143350870
>I mean he did well against SSJ2 Goku during their sparring session

Huh? Goku took a few steps backward while blocking everything just to size him up. Then he finished him off in two hits.
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>>143350870
you know goku is a good guy


he was probably using 1% of his power basically he just wanted to show trunks how cool ssj3 looks
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>>143350716
Only things that have happened in Super are Goku became a god while fighting Beerus, and then later realized how to combine god form with SSJ power, so it becomes stronger. So his current strongest form is Super Saiyan Blue.

However he still cannot beat Beerus, but Beerus is just another member of the cast at this point. Beerus and Whis are on record the strongest people in the universe. They come over for dinner and parties on occasion.

In order to keep making strong people, since they have directly stated that Beerus and Whis are the strongest in the universe, Dragonball started going into other universes recently. There was a tournament between universe 6 and universe 7. Universe 7 is where our heroes reside. Goku is outclassed lately by a lot of things, but he's having more fun than ever because of it. He's surrounded by countless strong people he can have fun fighting. He's made plenty of new rivals.

There are eight universes in all I think, but originally there were 18. King of all cosmos blew up most of them when he was having a bad day at one point.
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>>143350900
Turles survived the Tree of Might explosion and fled the galaxy. He went all over many other planets planting trees and eating their fruits, and now he is back for revenge.
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>>143350900

Black's identity will be revealed in Episode 54.
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>>143350463
Those transformations aren't linear, you stupid shit.
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>>143350969
Stop spoon feeding faggots
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>time travelling is a serious crime
>Beerus almost destroys the planet because of it
>None of the Kais including King Kai think to mention this ever
>Demigra goes around fucking up with time and Beerus is only slightly annoyed with them and expects Trunks to fight them instead
>Goku Black is fucking up time also, and Beerus probably won't even bother to fight him

I hate Super. All of it. There is not a damn redeeming quality.
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>>143338607
>mai gets wishedback to an adult
>future trunks cucks his younger slef
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>>143348397
What exactly does this mean? I haven't played xenoverse.
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>>143351059
As much as some wish for now XENOVERSE IS NOT FUCKING CANON
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>>143350969
Incoming sappy backstory? That's modern shounen. I wish for Black blowing up things because he's an asshole. That sound like Dragon Ball. What about like Broly? He got a sappy backstory but he was definitely an asshole.
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>>143350840
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>>143350284
Oh shit, is this the continuation of that Vegeta-is-the-main-character doujin?
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>>143351059
Jesus you're retarded
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>>143351059
meh it's not a very big crime because it is not the time trivel that beerus thinks it is


it's just timeline traveling. not really a big problem
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>>143350999
I know, I'm just complaining that in 2 post-Z separate series, he got skipped over for SSJ3.
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>>143350304
blue is stronger than Red. This was deliberately shown in the new chapter
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OKAY

SO despite Trunks becoming strong enough to shit on Dabura who was around the same level as Cell, this confirms he is still Buu saga tier in levels of strength.

Back then Gotenks and Gohan would have ruined him, as would most likely SS2 Goku and SS2 Vegeta.

So how will he be at all relevant battle wise now where the absolute minimum power level required to do anything is greater than SS3 (Angry Vegeta vs Beerus level)

I'm glad they explained that shit and Trunks didn't become a bitch, but when we're at the stage where Vegeta in base is stronger than SS3 Gotenks, SS2 ain't fucking shit now.
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>>143350738
>>143350840
>>143351145

Fuck off
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>>143350414
Androids were fuckton stronk but didn't have ki.
Only when they died and the population went up again (baby boom maybe) Babidi could wake up fatty
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>>143350951
King of All Cosmos seems like an alright guy though

He appoints the various Kais, gods of destruction, and other shit that rules over each universe.
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>>143351124
A lot of Xenoverse overlaps with Online, and Online is Toryiama canon
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>>143339251
female majin are the best.
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>>143351239
He'll be the perfect jobber for the next tourney. Hopefully Piccolo and Gohan can take a break from jobbing.
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Who is the best DB character and why is it Natz?
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Also appoints guards to watch over each god of destruction to make sure they're doing their job.

Though he doesn't seem to care too much.
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>>143351239
>So how will he be at all relevant battle

he is going to be trained just like goku and vegeta and he is going to reach ssj blue for the next multiverse tournament
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>>143351327
>jobbing.
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>>143351239
>So how will he be at all relevant battle wise now where the absolute minimum power level required to do anything is greater than SS3 (Angry Vegeta vs Beerus level)


They can give him a Super Saiyan God form in literally 2 seconds.
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>>143351328
What fusion is that supposed to be? Raditz and Nappa?

>inb4 Ditz Natz
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I wish Toei was replicating Toyotaro
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>>143345766
>42
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>>143351083
Dragon Ball Online's story was designed and written by AT. Towa and Mira were the main antagonists of that entire game. The Time Breakers were their own group of demons and other allies whose goal was to collect different warriors from different timelines to recruit them and put them to work in order to unseal the Demon Realm.

Demigra, however, is some OC guy the game devs thought up for Xenoverse 1, which is apparently the prequel in the sense that it happens before the villainous duo forms the Time Breakers. XV2 is about how to deal with Mira and Towa, who survived the attack at the end of the last game. All in all, we will see a lot of things like this from now on.
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>>143350754
That doesn't make any sense. Time Patrol Trunks looks WAY younger then Super Trunks.
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>>143351239
I think SSJ2 is the limit of power for a saiyan without a ritual. The SSJ3 was only achieved by Goku (MC) and Gotenks (fusion character) and it drained too much energy.
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>>143351337

Niggerstream at its finest
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>>143350782
He explains that in Z. Some anons are fucking retarded. All the time lines exist in the same universe yet are different instances of each other. The time capsule jumps time lines and doesn't move back and forth through one linear time line like people think. It's a pretty cool idea for time travel and eliminates plots holes that could be created.

My only problem with Black possibly being Goku is that died in Future Trunks' timeline. I doubt he was brought back with the Dragonballs, because if someone could find them and bring everyone back to life, why didn't Trunks and his Mom consider using them to bring back everyone killed by the androids?
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>>143350463
It's a nice powerup, but it's not sustainable because of whatever bullshit reasons they thought of. Something like it leaks a lot of ki or staying the form uses a ton of stamina
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>>143351428
>Whis and Vados are the only ones who aren't afraid of Zen'O
Are they really that important?
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>>143350582
Yeah, but he's not supposed to be 22, honestly.
No way you can have a few years old kid, a wife and a well paid job as an academic as 22.
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When will Cellzer show up?
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>trunks is so smart killing babadi and dabura before they revive buu

While yes, Vegeta is dead in his time to not fuck things up, remember that Trunks is the only remaining person alive with any sort of power. They had to collect a ton of energy to re-awaken Buu, their only target being Trunks. As long as he was able to overpower Dabura (which he did) it was a cakewalk from the beginning. I don't think they would have succeeded even if they did kill Trunks.
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>>143351683
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>>143351337
Why didn't he talk like a such a boss in the anime?
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>>143351666
They're personal guards sent by Zen-o to keep Beerus and Champa on the right path.They might be his children, who knows.

That one girl in Xenoverse might have been one of the Whis/Vados race from what I recall. From the way she looked at least, I didn't play the game so much.
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SSJ2FAG here! Where my bros at?
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>>143351716
Kek
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>>143351744
If Zen-o is god, Whis's race are basically angels
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>>143351239

>implying they'll make him relevant battle-wise

He'll be there just to sit back, explain things, and comment on the fights. Don't kid yourself expecting more.
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>>143351500
>replicating Toyotaro
In what way?
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>>143350951
SSB isn't his strongest form. SSB plus Kaioken x10 is his max power. In that fight he says he was saving it for if he fought Beerus and even Beerus was shocked that he had that much more power.
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I don't understand why the Buu saga happened at a different time in Trunks's timeline compared to the main one.

In the main timeline Buu saga happens when Trunks is 8 years old, yet for some reason happens when Trunks is in his 20's in the future timeline.

The Buu saga should have already happened when future Gohan and the androids where still around.
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>>143351877
But SSB Kaioken isn't canon.
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>>143345794
What the fuck. There are like 5 extra forms here.

SSGB > SSG > SS3 > SS2 > SS > Base.
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>>143342439
Jesus christ was that fight so much better in the manga
>hit didn't have time stop he actually jumped forward in time, which explains how goku's strategy could even fucking work
>goku would have actually won the fight easily
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>>143351884
>Babadi: Oh shit, these androids are going around killing everything. I don't want to be killed, so I'll come back later.
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>>143351884
Babidi needed Ki users, they were all dead
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>>143351906
The anime is canonier than the manga for Super.
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>>143351602
Natural dead can't be back with the DB.
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>>143351906
Are you saying the anime isn't canon and the Manga is?
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>>143351950
>>hit didn't have time stop he actually jumped forward in time, which explains how goku's strategy could even fucking work

That's not what happened, they directly said he was stopping time in the manga. If you think it wasn't represented correctly you can complain about that, but that doesn't mean you're interpretation overrides canon.

Also he didn't win easily, even when he went all out he couldn't seal a victory at all, and admitted that Hit was still holding back. He said they could have a true fight later on, where Hit can use his assassin techniques.
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>>143351870
Art direction of characters and setting.
Toyotaro stays true to Toriyama's style and looks authentic whereas the anime looks cheap in in-between frames. (It's better now)
The Kemetic (Ancient Egyptian) setting was also more esoteric and amusing than the food stands of the nameless planet of the u6 arc
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>>143351968
No it isn't. The manga is closer to Toriyama's vision for the series, ergo, it is canon.
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>>143351977
...wut? Even if that was the excuse, how do you explain them not trying to bring back any of the people killed by the Androids?
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>>143352038
He said the art looked better, not that it was more canon.
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>>143352016
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>>143339333
she's older than his fucking mother
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>>143348416
>Mediocre
Just because he doesn't draw simple line work and then add 50 filters per page doesn't make it mediocre.
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>>143351884
Babidi waited until there were enough people again to power up Boo.
The survivors must have fucked like rabbits
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>>143351968
It was advertised as such until the intervieew revealed that Tori actually reviews each chapter.
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>>143351568
How much energy does Super Saiyan God or Saiyan God drain in comparison to Super Saiyan 3?

I always figured Super Saiyan at this point is the base state, with Super Saiyan 2 adding fuel to the fire but you'll run out of fuel eventually. The consumption of Super Saiyan 3 is inconsistent to say the least.

Gotenks stayed at Super Saiyan 3 from the moment he powered up in and out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Goku in the manga stayed at Super Saiyan 3 during the whole Kid Buu fight.
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>>143352090
He doesn't have to say it was more "more canon" for it to be more canon. The fact the manga stays closer to Toriyama's ideas and that Toriyama often gives a lot of input on the manga is what makes it canon.
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>>143351081
fund it
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>>143352064
Well, Kamisama was ded and Bulma didn't know where is new Namek
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>>143352181

Goku says something about SSB being a lot calmer and easier to control or something than regular SS because of the God Ki, to explain why he could use Kaioken while always explaining why he's never done it before.
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>>143351337
>>143351387
>>143351428
>King of All Cosmos is a little kid easily entertained by Tournament fights
>Instantly likes Goku's carefree attitude
>Wants more cool fights in a bigger tournament
He's the DBS target audience. They are the ones who decide if the series lives or dies. And they are the ones who are keeping the series afloat.
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