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Yu Yu Hakusho is better than Hunter X Hunter.
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Yu Yu Hakusho is better than Hunter X Hunter.
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>>143307563
It's good but no.
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>>143307563
This guy looks like a metal bat rip-off, so no thanks
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>>143307563
no shit

most things are better than HxH
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>>143307968
Nice bait.
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>>143307563
Nobody disagrees with you
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okay
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>>143307563
That's the general consensus, yeah.
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HxH has neat ideas and moments, but it clearly has no direction. YYH had motivations that were clear.
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It's better in some ways and HxH is better in other ways.
>>143308113
YYH was floundering toward the ending. Having little direction is HxH's strength as an adventure manga.
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>>143307563
>shounenshit is better than other shounenshit
Who cares?
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>>143308673
Probably people who don't resort to buzzwords.
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>>143307563
KUWABARA is better than HxH
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>>143308515
But One Piece is about adventures and it has a goal in mind. If someone asked "Why are they sailing", I could give an answer. If asked "Why are they hunting", I wouldn't know what to say. Leorio is the only one who had something he was working for, and he pretty much already got it.
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>>143308806
To be fair, HxH doesn't have a single likeable character, well, maybe except for Leorio, but still, fuck that show really.
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>>143308892
But I would be able to answer "Why are they sailing" in HxH.
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>>143308922
>that show
First of all, fuck of
second of all, pic related would take hours of beatings just to say hi to you.
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>>143308922
>HxH doesn't have a single likeable character

>Ikalgo
>Netero
>Morel
>Meruem

The main characters are shit, but there are a lot of chill secondary characters
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>>143308892
Well, HxH is not OP. I don't care why they're hunting, I want to know what they're hunting. That's the fun of it.
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>>143309042
Your taste is trash. Also Meruem and Netero aren't likeable.
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>>143307563
Agreed

Yusuke > Gon
Hiei > Killua
Kuwabara > Leorio
Kurama =< Pika
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>>143307563
They're both definitely in my top 5 for the genre, I can't really say which is better. I don't know why HxH gets bashed a lot more on /a/ as of recent. Any idea, OP?
>>143309120
Nah, they definitely are. What characters do you like, then? From any series if you like.
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>>143309188
Yusuke < Gon
Hiei > Killua
Kuwajobber < Leorio
Kurama =< Pika
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>>143307563
In other news, water is wet
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>>143309251
>Kuwajobber
I'm sorry, how many fights has Leorio been in?
0?
WOW
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>>143309284
At least he's not an ugly jobber
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>>143309235
>Any idea, OP?
My guess is people are feeling Togashi is making up the story as he goes along and not really planning things out even with his hiatus. People were not really thrilled with Hisoka and his healing abilities for some reason that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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>>143309343
he is thou
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>>143309343
You would have to have bene in afight to be a jobber to begin with.
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>>143307563
YYH is a good battle shounen but HxH is Art. Not comparable despite coming from the same author.
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>>143309431
HxH > Level E >>> YYH
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>>143309431
>scribbles crapped out in five minutes between Dragon Quest sessions every month are art
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>>143309376
>My guess is people are feeling Togashi is making up the story as he goes along and not really planning things
I doubt those people have actually read it. Hisoka doesn't have "healing abilities" per se, he just got his Nen to perform CPR on himself. Nen after death has been an established concept for a long time, along with Bungee Gum's "expand and contract".
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>>143309465
>old, tired faulty memes are worth posting
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>>143307563
>stating the obvious
great job anon, you've earned some extra tendies today :')
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>>143309376
Criticizing Hisoka's revival is valid.
Saying that Togashi doesn't plan out is pure bullshit.
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>>143309376
DC is obviously planned out.
Hisoka doesn't have healing abilities.
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HxH is a sequel to YYH right?
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What would you get if you blend the two? Yu Yu Hunter? Hunter x Hakusho?
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>>143309643
No.
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>>143309643
>>143309720
Yes, Ging is Yusuke.
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>>143309343
He actually won most of his fight. It's just way harder to him than his friends.
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>>143309643
It's a spin-off of Urusei Yatsura.
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>>143309431
I don't even know if your serious or baiting. What's that thing that make HxH "art" YYH is lacking ?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10588140
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>>143310039
>that featured poll
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>>143308015
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But what if I like both?
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>>143310139
Such a thing can't exist. Stop baiting.
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>>143310139
A person can like chocolate and strawberry, but if that person were to choose?
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>>143307563
Nah pham.


Question: YYH characters are probably stronger than the ones in HxH, right? I know that HxH characters are among the "weakest" in shounen, but within the Togashiverse does that still hold true?
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>>143310261
YYH characters are much, much stronger than HxH characters still.
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the HxH villains are not really interessting also the spiders are bunch of hyprocites
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>>143310139
I like both too but one is better than other.
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>>143310317
HxH characters are so weak that Trollashi made them supporting characters.
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>>143310261
By the end of YYH characters were blowing up mountains, the strongest HxH character got wrecked by a cheap bomb, twice, so yeah.

Thething is that most YYH characters have only straight up ofensive powers, while HxH characters have tricky powers that can be used to outsmart stronger people
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>>143310324
>the YYH villains are not really interessting
ftfy
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>>143310407
Meruem blew up a mountain after he got Youpi's powers.
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Why are there no girls in HxH? We had a sufficient amount of cute ones in YYH, what happened?
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>>143309251
Garbage taste
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This is what HxH 2011 has done. Im fucking ashamed of you all.
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>>143310485
>Why are there no girls in HxH?
There are plenty of girls in HxH.
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>>143307563
i agree
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>>143309906
You serious? YYH is a standard shonen arc for the most part, even devolving into power levels by the end. HxH is the complete opposite direction, subverting tropes at every corner and characterizing everyone with ambiguous morality (no good guys vs bad guys like Yusuke vs Toguro)..
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>>143307563
It is nowhere near as well written and Togashi has improved significantly since then but if you enjoyed it more, I respect your opinion.
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>>143310583
Togashi has improved, but I think the bigger factor in HxH's quality relative to YYH is that WSJ no longer have a leash on what he can write.
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>>143310568
Those are boys.
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>>143307563
After the stunts Hisoka pulled off in the recent chapters, hell yeah it is.
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>>143310575
bait
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>>143309042
>Meruem
>likable
What.
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>>143310672
Isn't every single post in this thread bait (this one included)?
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>>143310650
Well, there's your answer. Your wish fulfillment prevents you from acknowledging that there are girls in HxH.
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>>143309532
>fashioning prosthetics out of nen
>not healing abilities
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>>143310672
not an argument
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>>143310791
>not an argument
Fuck off.
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>>143310740
>pretending boys are girls
You are the one in wish fulfillment land.
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>>143310829
>>143310791
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>>143307563


Tournaments Arcs x Tournament Arcs
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>>143310882
>>143310829
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>>143310866
>pretending girls are boys
Have gays gone too far?
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>>143310575
How is Meruem not a bad guy ? Just because he was nice to the blind girl doesn't change the fact that he killed hundreds of people (including his mother) for no reason. Same goes for the spider and the bad guy from greed island. Toguro is actually way more morally grey than anyone from HxH.
I liked HxH but the fanbase here is so disillusion. It's good but it's not a masterpiece and much less "art".
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>>143310927
>>143310829
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>>143310997
>>143310997
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People honestly like Gon more than Yusuke? And Leorio more than Kuwabara?! You guys are fucking insane. Gon is a retarded feral child and Leorio hasn't done anything of note aside for Ging letting himself be punched by him
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Togashi basically took the best part of YYH and made it into an entire series.
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>>143310987
The whole point is no meruem being good or evil, but being a mirror of us, humans
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>>143311131
I'm not gay but Itsuki has great tastes.
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>>143310987
Meruem isn't a black and white 'bad guy' because he's a newborn baby ant and the result of an evolutionary process specifically designed to have him rule over everything and everyone once he's born. He's doing what's natural and instinctive until he begins to learn and develop. Humans are like pigs and cattle to him, and pigs and cattle are just resources for humans so it's not exactly fair to judge him by our moral standards.

Netero wasn't wrong to kill him either, he needed to die, but it's sad because he was capable of changing quickly and could've ended up being a decent guy.
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>>143311117
Yusuke is charming but Gon is more interesting and better written.
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>>143310407
>a rose couldn't take out a mountain
And the blast didn't even kill him it was the poisoning.

Yomi vs Yusuke was one of my favorite fights of all-time, but I sure as shit wouldn't put Meruem under any YYH character except maybe Raizen.
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>>143311261
>yusuke beat up a tranny
>gon killed one
Gon > Yusuke
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>>143311261
>better written
We're talking about the characters, nigger, so everything except the designs is about being "better written." You might as well jst say "he's more interesting and I like him more."
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>>143311393
There's a difference between a character being 'likable' and a character being 'interesting'. The latter tends to involve flaws, which make someone less likable but usually makes them a better written character.
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>>143310485
The lack of plot relevant female characters was really only an issue in the beginning arcs. There are a sufficient amount now, I mean just look how many plot relevant girls there are in the current arc.
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HxH is good in terms of storytelling, it's creative and well crafted, in most parts, it doesn't follow the shonen's cliches as YYH does. The focus of the story is to develop unpredictable situations and well balance strategies, in order to do so the show sacrifices deeper development in the charecters' charisma.
As for YYH is more linear, predictable and pretty much follows the same shonen's formula that makes the characters more likeable
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>>143311261
Gon is a faggot and by far the worst character in HxH
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>>143309700
Yu x Yu.
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Imagine how great the Three Kings Arc in YYH could've been if Togashi had the same freedom in writing as he does with HxH. It could have easily been one of the best war arcs in WSJ. Instead we got a stupid fucking tournament.
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>>143312828
Your post is shit and wrong.
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The ending of CA was weird as fuck
>tfw it's a vore episode
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>>143313019
>The end
>vore
did you see the ending of the CA or the GI arc leading into the CA arc?
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This place seems as good as any to ask. Just finished up the 2011 HxH. Where should I pick up the manga? I know I should've just read the manga in the first place but fuck you I don't want to read all that exposition again.
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>>143313111
Chapter 1
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>>143313111
No, you will read it from the beginning or fuck off and rewatch all of the 99 version.
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>>143313111
Chapter 340
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>>143313319
thanks

>>143313154
>>143313174
I'll watch the 99 version too. this make everyone happy?
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>>143313443
You should still start from chapter 1
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>>143313078
I was talking about one of the final CA chapters, where Pouf and Youpi spend 10 minutes having orgasms while they were being eaten by the king's petrified corpse
That was weird as fuck
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>>143313564
why did the anime remove pitou's orgasm?
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>>143313720
when did she have one?
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>>143313769
when meruem said he was counting on her
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>>143313890
the anime didn't skip that.
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I agree, but it won't do you much good posting that here. /a/ has a throbbing hard-on for HxH because "muh artsy genre deconstruction" or whatever. You can criticize it for its terrible characters, legendary asspulls or outlandish anticlimaxes, but nine times out of ten the fanbase is content to just tell you that you're too stupid to appreciate the minute, sophisticated nuances that make things like central antagonists dying to radiation poisoning off-screen and characters becoming hilariously strong without any effort true examples of excellent storytelling.
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>>143314026
they left out the part of her body quivering
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>>143314111
you just don't understand
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>>143314026
>"did it" with kaito
>got cock slapped by meruem with a smirk on her face
>let her pussy drip in front of two old men
Slut
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>>143307563
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>>143314362
>different opinion = shitposting
kill yourself
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Agreed

Kuwabara and Yusuke invented cool. Hiei is the only edgy character I can forgive
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>>143314424
your thread is garbage
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>>143314522
this isn't my thread
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>>143314210
That's the spirit!
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Man, HxH with YYH characters would be absolutely God Tier.
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>>143309251

>Kuwajobber

I'm still mad about Kuwabara losing to Rinku.
What I would give to see Kuwabara actually fighting against S-Rank demons, series got considerably worse after he was dropped.
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>>143314676
That's one department you can absolutely sniff out a biased fanboy with. Say whatever you like about HxH, but YYH without question had a better cast - it's not even close. Yusuke on his own is one of the most entertaining, perfectly developed characters I have ever seen. His metamorphosis from the series' beginning to it's finale is so gradual, you can read/watch it 3 times over and not notice it happen. Almost every other character is fantastic too. Hunter's cast ranges from decent to downright insufferable, and some of them get introduced just to fuck off entirely.
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>>143315090
>YYH without question had a better cast
Biased fanboy indeed.
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>>143315394
Never seen yyh?
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>>143315090
On what fucking planet is Yusuke is better developed than Gon? Gon is not as likable, that's for sure, but his personality is significantly more nuanced and his character arc, which isn't even over yet, is much more interesting in many ways (having legit flaws, subverting battle shounen MC traits, being subtly hinted at throughout the series until shit finally hits the fan, etc). If it wasn't for CA arc I could see them being about on the same level, but that shit showed exactly where Togashi was headed with all the little moments you'd wonder what's wrong with this kid and then dismiss it as typical hot headed MC traits.
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>>143314717
He defeated Toguru, that was something
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>>143314260
Don't you mean a faggot?
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>>143315090
>first sentence hooks you in to get you to continue reading, the rest is the complete bullshit and the opposite of what you'd expect anon to say
This is how you do bait.
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>>143307563
I disagree but you're entitled to your own opinion.
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>>143315478
>subverting battle shounen MC traits
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>>143315478
>intricate nuances and subverting genre deconstruction artistic hoobityboobity

Oh stop. The only time Gon did anything atypical of any other battle shounen MC was, like you said, in the CA arc, and that's only because he threatened to murder a little girl because he was mad. On planet Earth, we call that an abrupt and bizarre betrayal of a character's personality. We don't refer to it as good writing.
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>>143309431
Why do people keep posting this fucking page? Most of the art I see in the manga look like complete ass
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>>143307563
Well of course but that doesn't mean HXH is bad
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>>143309251
no.
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>>143315969
Have you even read it? Most of the art in the manga is completely fine.
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>>143313769
>>143313890
>she
>her
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>>143308892
720p bait
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>>143315925
It's got nothing to do with threatening to murder a little girl. It's about how his determination, optimism and loyalty to his friends aren't portrayed as positive traits that lead to triumphant victories, but rather explores how they can be harmful. It's simple as fuck and impossible to miss unless you're intentionally ignoring it so you can blindly praise Yusuke as better.
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>>143316057
>gendershitposting
How crass.
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>some people say pitou is a boy
>others say its a girl
Which one is it then?
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>>143315090

I personally enjoyed more Kuwabara devolopment, starting as a generic thug and becoming a noble warrior and probably the strongest human
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>>143315969
>Most of the art I see
So, you mean the few pages that get constantly reposted because they are memes, even though they were redrawn?

And of course people are going to post recent double page spreads. It's a well drawn, nicely paneled page that features some creepy shit that's representative of the current arc.
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>>143316238
it's ambiguous
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Gon raging over Kite's death is a shadow, a cheap imitation of Yusuke raging over Kuwabara and it's probably the most popular bit in HxH. That's how you know YYH is better.
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>>143316238
Technically Pitou's gender is ambiguous but she's most likely female.
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>>143308892
>"Why are they hunting", I wouldn't know what to say.
>Gon looks for his father
>Leorio wants to be a doctor
>Killua wants freinds
>Kurapika wants revenge
>They each try to achieve this through being a Hunter
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>>143316107
He got really angry, gained a preposterous power boost and beat one of the most hyped up villains in the series with zero effort. He loses his Nen as a result, but his personality is virtually untouched. He's the same guy he was on the first page. I dunno man, it seems like that sweet "trope subversion" gave us more or less the same result any other battle shounen would have given us. The only difference was that a hugely important villain got killed off before ever doing anything impressive, but I'm sure that's another intellectually stimulating artistic intricacy I fail to comprehend.
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>>143316336
pitou is a girl in anime
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>>143316238
Male
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>>143309251
Yusuke is so much better than Gon
I can't hate on Killua after seeing him develop in chimera ants arc
Kuwabara is shamefully shafted after the chapter black saga (which was better than the dark tournament in my opiion)
I like Kurama and Pika equally but lean towards Kurapika because he's getting more fleshed out by the chapter
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>>143316449
no one said she was a girl in the anime.
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>>143316449
Pitou is still ambiguous in the anime, narratively speaking.
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>>143316296
Sad Yusuke and Sad Gon are cute. I love both scenes. Fight me you stupid cuck fag. Also, OP swallows dicks while Gon and Yusuke double teams his mom's boipussy.

Then, they'll ravage the anus of that one fag who makes long winded posts of how HxH subverts the shounen genre or some dumb shit. HxH is as much of a shounen as YYH is.
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>>143316553
she's girl
>dont fuck with me
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>>143307563
Correct.
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>>143310575
>ambiguous morality
I will agree that the characters of HxH are so lively because they feel real, but to say that ambiguous morality is what makes the characters great is retarded
Gon in this arc was never an evil person and isn't.
He was going through complex emotions such as grief and guilt pushing his emotions and judgement to the extreme.
It was great seeing him break down because it's the first time we see a human emotion out of the previously generic shonen hero and I liked that.
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Ging is basically Yusuke
Didnt he do the spirit gun?
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>>143316443
It wasn't development in the sense that he changed as a person, it was development in the sense that the audience comes to understand him better and all the off things about his personality start adding up. If he's going to change it will be now, it's an ongoing series and nearly dying/losing his nen has to be a tipping point.

And yeah, there's probably some 'intellectually stimulating' things about the fight that you're glossing over. Of course it was with no effort, if he was the underdog having to work hard to beat Pitou it would mean her defeat is a positive, victorious moment for him and that's too much fanfare for the reality. The fact that it was just a one sided, brutal massacre shows that it was a shitty thing to happen.
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>>143312828
>>143311261
Pre Chimera Ants Gon was shallow and uninteresting
Tell me why you guys think he is so great, I want to know
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>>143316889
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>>143316443
I don't see what you mean. When Gon woke up from his coma it was all about him facing and accepting the consequences of his actions, apologizing accordingly and promising to do better. His best friend no longer sees him the same way, he's without nen, and returned back home to reflect upon everything (and do homework).
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>>143316238
Ambiguous
But people just desperately want it to be a her so they can fuck it

>>143316553
>>143316536
In the anime she had clear boobs and is voiced by a girl. It's clear in the 2011 they just decided to make her a girl for simplicity sake.
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>>143316810
you just gotta understand, Paco, that no matter how obviously female she is, Pitou was still technically gender ambiguous in either medium.
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I feel like YYH was him getting his feet wet and HxH is when he really came into his own
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>>143317082
>Pitou was still technically gender ambiguous in either medium
>Female voice
This shit will never end until Togashi announces why the hell it matters even.
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I wish Ging was the main character instead of Gon
He's got far more spunk than Gon
HxH is one of my favorite manga, even if it has one of the most boring protagonists
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>>143317049
Pitou has tits in the manga, volume art, the latest art Togashi drew of her, etc, but the point is that there's no confirmation of gender in either version. It's neutral.
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>>143317164
a voice actress chosen at the discretion of madhouse doesn't amount to anything.
Unless something in the script labels Pitou a girl or if she started talking about how much her vagina itches, the anime is on the same exact page as the manga.
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>>143317164
luffy naruto and goku are voiced by females
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>>143317186
Gon is far from boring. He's the most unpredictable MC out of the four.
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>>143317358
dummy, the point of the discussion is that the anime didn't "make Pitou a girl" any more so than Togashi already did. No one's arguing about her gender.
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>>143317310
I saw some of DBS recently, the first time I've seen Japanese Dragon Ball and the first time I've seen anything Dragon Ball related since last decade

I was shocked at Goku's voice. Luffy's voice works but Goku is a large, muscular grown man with the voice of an old Japanese woman not even attempting to mask her age and gender in any way. Just a straight up old woman talking and yelling into a microphone and calling it a day.
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Botan is cute
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>>143317609
That just makes him manlier.
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>>143317609
yeah agree with that
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>>143307563
I like Yusuke and Kuwabara far more than Gon and Killua, and I like Togashi's more gritty art, but overall I think YYH was a brilliant action-adventure premise wasted on a bunch of tournament fighting bullshit that then shits all over itself with the Sensui fight.

Still pretty good, all things considered. But HXH is a clear indication that YYH could have been so much more than it was.
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>>143317619
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>>143310903
>we need to decide who will be king
>there's a process and it needs t-
>hey guys I know, how about A TOURNAMENT

>oh hey we are Raizen's old friends you never heard of, were basically as strong or nearly as strong as the strongest characters in the series
>we are gonna compete too

>and then one of them wins, the end
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>>143309251
>Yusuke < Gon

No. Yusuke is the perfect example of how to do a shounen MC correctly. His growth throughout the series is genuine, but he never loses that delinquent edge that made him fun in the first place. The problem with most of Jump's shounen MCs is that they start off with a fun character trait, but they soon lose these traits for the sake of becoming "mature." Character development doesn't mean becoming an entirely different character, but maintaining a character's core personality while evoking of sense of growth. Current Ichigo is the perfect example of what Yusuke would have been if he were stripped of any sense of fun.

On the other hand, Gon is a good MC. He invokes the adventurous spirit that his series is known for. At the same time, his childish demeanor may also be the cause of his low point in CA. Children have no control over their emotions in intense situations, and Gon's final scenes in that arc were the equivalent of a child with too much power throwing a fit because he didn't know what to do at the time. This isn't a bad thing since it leaves room for development for Gon, and his current goal of finding out what to do with his life is the sort of positive growth he needs. As of now, he's the same age as early Yusuke, so about a year without fighting or nen must've changed Gon in some way.

As it stands, I don't like to compare Gon and Yusuke, nor do I like to compare the rest of YYH's leading boys to HxH's. HxH isn't finished, so its MCs aren't complete characters like the ones in YYH. As it stands, current HxH boys < end of series YYH boys. But the HxH boys also have the potential to be great in the end especially Gon.
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>>143317619

Why are all of Togashi's girls so damn fine?
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>>143317571
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Magi>HxH

Prove me wrong.
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>>143318153
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>>143318153
I know right?
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In terms of endings
Yuyu Hakusho> Hunter x Hunter 2011>Hunter x Hunter 1999
In terms of openings
Yuyu Hakusho> Hunter x Hunter 1999> Hunter 2011

Debate why Sayonara Bye Bye is the best ending.
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>>143318235
Agreed
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Why is Sensui in YYH a tall, dark, and handsome guy who is attracted to a beautiful man and willingly gives his ass up to him while HxH Sensui is a twink manlet who gets punked by a crossdressing blonde teenager and has a fondness for an ugly child raping clown?
Chrollo > Sensui
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>>143318235
Can't, you're entitled to your own opinion but I'm willing to try out any competent shounen series that isn't from Shonen Jump so I'll read this and see for myself. I watched the first two seasons of the anime and know that they're inferior to the manga though.
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>>143318335
>Hunter x Hunter 2011>Hunter x Hunter 1999
Nigga no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV1ZT9I2pSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=945ZWIibFyc
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>>143318518
kaze no uta
>right in the feels
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>>143307563
For sure...I can't understand why HxH is so shitty designed compared to his previous work
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>>143318235
Jesus christ, fuck no. Magi might have had some potential at the beginning but it's pure garbage
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>>143318704
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>>143318335
YOU CAN FLY AGAIN
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>>143318658
Kind of like how H x H stopped being fun after Heaven's Arena
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>>143318823
After Gon met his dad it's end...
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>>143318823
>greed island
>not fun
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>>143318658
>might have some potential

How to disregard anyone's opinion 101.

Seriously I'm sick of people saying this shit about everything.
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>>143318518
The second ending is definitely well-sung but I found the 2011 endings to be more memorable, at least we agree on Yuyu being the best. Nah, on second thought I'll give it to 1999, 2011's are good but don't stand out.
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>>143307563
Of course. A lot of YYH was published before Togashi stopped giving a shit about the art.
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Anyone else notice the huge surge in "when does this get good" or " so and so is better than HxH" shit threads after the dub started airing? This can't be a coincidence.
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>>143318704
kawaii
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>>143318927
Indeed...
HxH has horrible drawings
At least YYH was cool to see
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>>143315925
>bizarre betrayal of a character's personality
His craziness had been subtly hinted at for a long time.
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Hisoka killed Shalnark...HxH is finished for me
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>>143319229
gay
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>>143318927
>>143319000
memes
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>>143319242
why?
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Whatever happened to deepfag?
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>>143319000
If you have a physical volume of the manga in your hands the quality isn't any different than Yuyu Hakusho. I read through vols 9,10 and 11 the other day and the drawings were crisper and better than shitty online scans.
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>>143319355
Really? Online scans are obscene...
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Yusuke is literally the greatest shounen protag of all time

The only person you can argue is Joseph joestar
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>>143319303
What?
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>>143319301
NO need explanation
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>>143312878

this

it was building up to be..god tier
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>>143312878
Kurama vs. whomever was pretty enjoyable. I do think Togashi was just sick of his series at that point, probably dreaming up HxH.
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Who was the better villain, Sensui or Toguro?
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>>143318294
I must have read 50 chapters before discovering that character was male.

>>143319277
>>143319355
>>143319000
I went back and found the exact page where I dropped HxH after the ugly and tortuous Greed Island arc.
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>>143319857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i0YAmzn0DE
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>>143319857
Toguro in everyway

While I liked Sensui's multiple personalities and powers his

>humans were the demons the whole time

was shitty

Now if walked in to humans raping kids or something then I could understand. But demons were living off human flesh. get the fuck out of here with the pity party
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I think HxH is better in terms of overall story and villains, but YYH has a better main 4.

With the exception of Pika
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>>143319857

>reminder that Yusuke couldn't actually beat Sensui
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>>143319963
The redrawn scans are available.
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>>143320054
toguro could have done the same thing if he wasnt suicidal

Hell they both were suicidal. Toguro literally did everything in his power to get yusuke more powerful than him to even "killing" kuwabara
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>>143319857
toguro, of course
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>>143319857
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>>143319966
"His muscle structure, it's genius!"

Do any biologists want to chime in?
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>>143319857
Sensui's cool, but Toguro is one of my favourite villains in all of Shounen.
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>>143319857
you have to be one hell of a hardass to willingly choose to go to the worse version of hell.
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>>143310324
sensui was interesting
so were some of the dark tournament enemies, like the ninjas and the fairy tales
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>>143311188
He also learn the value of humans life through Komogi. In the end, he wanted to create a world so equal the word equality wouldn't exist where people like Komugi could survive.
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>>143319967
>Now if walked in to humans raping kids or something then I could understand

You are just being an idiot. Sensui was drove insane after watching the Chapter Black tape, which is perfectly understandable when you watch the history of humanity in a tape with every atrocity detailed and realize we are nothing but mindless bloodthristy savages worse than demons.
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>>143320209
>Step on shit
>Kick his face
>???
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>>143319857
Toguro has a special place in my heart.
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Hunter x Hunter, but I love me some Yu Yu. I'm rewatching the latter while stationary YowaPedal and some early fights were just trash. Pic related is my opinion.
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>>143317619
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if i like hxh a lot will i like yyh
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>>143320836
His hugeness is perfection. That arc had tons of great characters.
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>>143308892
Can't remember that last time they actually hunt something
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Yu Yu Hakusho is just tournament arcs: the manga. At least in Hunter x Hunter, we get crime noir, political thrillers, video games. Dark Continent is looking like some survival/cosmic horror shit.
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>>143320765
but there is the White tape, anon.
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>>143307563
Maybe I'd have agreed if we were talking about which main cast was better, but now Kurapika is shaping up to be a better character than Kurama ever was
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>>143310987
he was a good character on the basis of redemption and coming to terms with his humanity
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>>143310575
You picked just about the only things that HxH and Yu Yu Hakusho have in common. Hiei, Kurama, Toguro, Sensui (and his crew) were ambiguous villains. Only the last arc was overly concerned with power levels.

The major difference is that nothing happens in Yu Yu Hakusho without Yusuke's involvement. The world around Yusuke is portrayed as less important than him and we only follow his story. HxH is the opposite. Gon is just a small time hunter, with a lot of potential and plot armor mind you, in a big time world. It's the same as One Piece. You can read HxH and One Piece and not particularly care about the main characters without it influencing your reading much. There is enough going on in the background to keep you interested. The same is not true for Yu Yu Hakusho; if you don't care for Yusuke or his group then it's very difficult to read.
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>>143318235
>muh joos

yeah nah
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>>143321743
While it is true that the world of YYH can revolve a little too much around Yusuke at times, I think it's somewhat alleviated by the fact that Yusuke is as based of a MC as he is.

Conversely, if the world of HxH revolved mostly around Gon, who I find to be rather plain and uninteresting in terms of personality, I'd have probably dropped the series long ago.
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What if the story when Gon gets older is called "Hunter z Hunter?"
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