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Lads, how long til we get another classic anime again? You
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Lads, how long til we get another classic anime again?

You know, one of these where you could actually make an argument to anyone that it's good entertainment regardless of the medium it is home to.

You know, the shin sekai yoris, the uchouten kazokus, the ping pongs, the mushishis, the tatami galaxies... I feel like it's been quite a few seasons since we got one.
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If other people can't appreciate anime as is, it's their problem not mine.
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>>143263497
Rakugo aired literally last season.
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>>143263561
come on dude i'm the same as you, i literally watch every piece of crap that airs be it kumamiko pedo beastiality shit or battle harem no. 25, but at the end of the day we get even more enjoyment or at least a different, rare sort enjoyment (that tokubetsu feel wink wink) out of a really good anime
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Fuck off.
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>>143263629
>Rakugo
problem is, i'm neither gay nor a fat hambeast.
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>>143263651
You're just a retard, probably autistic.
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>>143263714
Classic mature anime fan.
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shinsekai yori is bad
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>>143263497
NOW
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>>143263497
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>>143263773
>i don't like having a dick in a butt
>"grow up anon, only immature plebs can't appreciate the tingling sensation of having a cock shoved up their arsehole"
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>>143263651
>>143263838
For fuck's sake, proper capitalization and punctuation isn't that hard.
Fuck off until you can type like an adult.
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>>143263714
You think Rakugo is gayshit but you don't have a problem with SSY?
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>>143263497

You mean like a show with an actual sense of purpose that just aims at being a good show with interesting characters in the traditional sense and where everything isn't just designed around selling event tickets and music to the point where the basics of making good entertaining television are entirely ignored? Little Witch Academia TV seems like a plausible bet. Also as someone else mentioned there's Rakugo. I wouldn't hold my breath on too much else though in an industry thoroughly dominated by the whims of the likes of Aniplex, Kadokawa and like minded producers.
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>>143263497
Shinsekai Yori is not a classic in any way shape or form. To be a classic it has to be loved either

1)Japanese Normalfags
2)Western Normalfags

SSY flopped in Japan, and in the west it's only popular on obscure anime forums.
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>>143263838

Other options he could have gone with include "normie" and "tumblrwhale". Whenever you want to immediately drag a thread way off topic and just make it as stupid as possible those are increasingly popular standby's
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This season I really liked Luluco, Tanaka-kun, and Flying Witch. I think Luluco is up there in classic territory for me. It all depends on your taste.
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>>143264119
>>143263980
I will never understand Trigger fans.
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>>143263629
thats just a niche anime which caters to a specific crowd. you cant really say that it's an overall good anime or that it is of any worth if you take a look at it outside of its medium
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>>143263714
Rakugo has no pandering besides it being about the relationship between two men. Which is totally platonic.
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It's all subjective anon. My wife's son really likes BnHA and calls it an instant classic.
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>>143263497
What's so special about uchoten kazoku? It's just a bland drama with some supernatural nonsense thrown in. Other than that it's been almost completely forgotten in just 3 years.
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>>143264148
Why? It has all the tenants of a beautiful story of purpose and legacy. The only knock against it is that it's weird that it's an anime at all rather than something live action.
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>>143263955
why would you think im op?
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>>143263497
There is no way a regular person could get into Tatami Galaxy
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>>143264148
Anon, this may come as a shock, but "period piece drama" is not something that's considered niche.
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>>143263497
We just had Rakugo last season
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>>143263497

Re:Zero is airing right now.
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>>143264524
>mfw an Anonymous calls a "chinese cartoon for gay manchildren and drooling overweight fujoshits" a "period piece drama"
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>>143263629
This.

Also, we're getting a Space Battleship Yamato sequel and a Legend of the Galactic Heroes remake next year.
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>>143264620

This is the case for most shitty 3x3 bait shows. The other option is things that are literally too boring for sane people to watch like Rakugo, so they flock to them because there's nobody to call them out on their shit taste.
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>>143264647
There's your mildew, anon. You're too jaded and failed to see that while Rakugo has some fujoshi appeal, there's nothing in the content itself that any normalfag watching would be able to pick up on as pandering to people who schlick to gays. Nothing in it panders.
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>>143264393
>noone cares here

Evidently some do.

>it's artistic freedom

Go back to your tumblr hugbox and shove dildos up your ass for the artistic merit if you want that kind validation.
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>>143264644
This nigga serious?
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>>143264447
>>143263714
>i'm
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>>143264620
so it's like yuru yuri with lesbianism?

people only pretend they like it to look tolerant and nu-male by saying they love lesbians, when it's actually plotless trash and unfunny dykes behaving like retards.
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So by classic you mean "anime I really like" right?
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>>143263497
i'd love more frequent adaptations a proper novels. 2-cours, like Gankutsuou or Shin Sekai Yori itself.
also for novels there isn't an original character design (or a whole visual style) to stick to, so the staff-studio is free to express itself with its own vision.
Sadly it happens only once in a blue moon.
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>>143263497
91 days maybe
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>mouth-breathing plebs memeing on Tatami Galaxy and Rakugo

These threads always get my goat.
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>>143264644
Re:Zero is a lot of fun and has excellent direction, but it very clearly appeals only to people who are already fans of anime.
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>>143264848
first the autism boogieman, and now the tumblr boogieman? evidently you are the only one who cares, and i dont care about you. come on post that frog already dude
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>>143264569
Reminder that ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>143264707
But when will we get a sequel to Kangoku Senkan?
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>>143263992
It has all the makings of a classic, and should be a classic. We can call it an honorary classic if it never achieved the needed popularity for some reason.
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>>143265098
Joker Game was a novel, wasn't it? The show is just kind of meh.
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>>143263497
Get out of your bubble and watch Macross Delta.
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>>143265098
Actual non-LN novel adaptations tend to work really well (Shiki, Another, SSY). Shame that Haruchika was so shitty.
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>Euph S2
>Koe no Katachi
>VEG
>LWA
You are getting your classics alright
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>>143263497
I don't think Mushishi really belongs in that group. It's too episodic to fit the kind of thing you mean. You're talking about stuff like KLK, Kyousougiga, etc.

I feel like we came really close with BokuMachi but it just ended up getting too shitty after the first half. Should have stuck to the "save the girl" romance and had a cute reunion ending, but it kept changing its mind about what kind of story it wanted to tell.
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There's a ton of good shit being released every season. You just don't find it because you don't actually like anime.
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>>143263497
Is Hyouge Mono a masterpiece?
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>>143263629
Its sleeping pills made for girls. Moreso the sleeping pills.
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To be honest OP, I too feel a lack of "mature/serious" anime these days. Thankfully we have Jojo this season which is helping to raise the bar, but most of the rest of what's airing is far too juvenile for my taste.
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>>143263821
Luluco has too much of an Inferno Cop/Ninja Slayer brand "ironic" vibe to normalfags even though its a great show.

The slow as fuck first 3 episodes are a bitch.
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>>143265591
>MAL
Don't do that
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>>143265652
Normalfags would be turned off by the first episode where a character implies that a 13-year-old girl is "sexy"
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>>143263895
>Any show with two males being good friends is gay shit!

Rakugo's issue is being boring.
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>>143265648
is this bait?

the only people i know who watch jojo are edgy 16 year olds who think it is art
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http://chaoschildanime.com/
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>>143265515
>you don't actually like anime

Here we go, classic /a/ trying to defend its Shittest Taste on the Internet by claiming that anyone with a modicum of discernment "doesn't like anime." Go fuck yourself.
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>>143265648
Anon are you retarded? An average 8 year-old can fully comprehend jojo.
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If there's one next season it'll be Battery or Mob Psycho 100. Fall has Flip Flappers and March Lion, both of which have that potential too. New Yamada and Katabuchi films this year. Winter had Rakugo, last year had Euphonium. We're in no shortage.
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>>143263895

no it's actually more like this:

>grow up anon, only immature plebs disregard a show based only on whether it contains characters whose sexuality is questionable

if you honestly can't see past one of the 2 protagonists possibly being gay i feel sorry for you anon.
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>>143265547
Yes
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>>143266025
My point is that it's just a serious story with interesting characters and style, compared with most of the other shows which are just tired trope collages with uguu moe girls in them.
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>>143265591

>Using MAL ratings as arguments.
MAL doesn't bother as much as it does most of /a/ but that's just silly anon.
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>>143263497
KlaK just aired, anon.
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>>143264620

Tatami Galaxy may be centered around the message to appreciate what you have in life rather than constantly yearning for something better, but it's also just a fun show. MC and Ozu's antics are very entertaining.
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>i share this very same board with people who unironically think jojo, klk and hibikek are great anime and belong in the same group as those op named
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>>143266290

Jojo, KLK and Hibikek are great shows. They just don't offer the same level of intellectual engagement as the real classics, but there's nothing wrong with that. Not every show needs to be fodder for deep critical analysis.
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A-1 pictures needs to do another anime original. They have some talented people and can really do incredible things when they put resources into it.
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>>143266379
>Hibike
>not intellectual
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>>143266457
Hibike is VERY intellectual. Forget anyone who says otherwise.
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>>143266379
ah thats good to know, thanks for sharing the criteria.

then kiznaiver, himouto, hundred and asterisk are all great shows as well.

man anime is so great, there are a few good shows each season, but overall 9/10 shows are great.

i love japan period.
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>>143266411

Anon, posting a meme instead of articulating a reply doesn't do you any favors.

>>143266457

I loved Hibike. The show has some compelling themes. It's just not quite as thought-provoking as a true classic.
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>>143266379
Euphonium is easily as well written as the best of those shows in OP's list.
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You're gonna have multiple next season, and then you faggots get March Comes in Like a Lion in Fall.
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>>143263651
Maybe I'll give you a serious reply when you learn how to properly format your posts.
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>>143266551
>thanks for sharing the criteria

I didn't share any criteria, anon. Let me do so, so that you can cease your hysterical strawmanning.

I consider KLK and Jojo great shows because they do action-comedy exceptionally well, and Hibike is a very competently made slice-of-life.

Shows can be great within their genre without being a 10/10 classic for all time.
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>>143266593

Eh, I wouldn't call it quite as well written as Tatami Galaxy, thanks to the way Tatami Galaxy plays with narrative structure.

Hibike's great, though, don't get me wrong.
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>>143264194
>tfw I used a dictionary in my life
>tfw I know this pic in fact implies that Yuasa isn't pretentious (at least according to the normal definition of the word) and that calling him pretentious is just giving it a second definition
>mfw I have no face and no name beside Anonymous
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It's called Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu.
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>>143266821
Well, at least you found a way to make yourself feel superior about it.
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>>143266821

Sorry, anon, but Euphonium just isn't quite as creative, or as good.
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>>143263497
Maybe in a few thousand years, after the Kali Yuga has ended, a civilization will develop a style similar to anime and use it to make something good. Until then, the age in which classics can be made has come to an end.
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>>143266742
Not to put the two against each other, but where TG is very clever, Eupho manages to give a crazy amount of insight into a much bigger cast in around the same amount of time. It tackles its main themes from a ton of different angles and ties it all together perfectly while also being jaw-droppingly gorgeous and featuring some of the best digital technique across any tv anime.

Tatami Galaxy is still a masterpiece, I just campaign for Eupho harder because I want more people to "get it" on that level, instead of "oh it's good for its genre" or whatever. I love both dearly.
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>>143267062

You make some very valid points. I'm eagerly awaiting S2. It's a shame that the relationship shitflinging dominates Hibike discussion so heavily.
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>>143267062
Kyoani shows in general tend to have many layers to them that a lot of people don't notice. Its not the deepest shit in the world but there is always so much more to the characters than what meets the eye.
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>>143267292
tell me more about the layers in K-on
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>>143267316
You forgot to throw Pupa in there.
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>>143267383
Can't figure them out yourself? What's the matter, 2deep4u?
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>>143267292
Depends on the show, but a handful of great ones have been made there.

>>143267383
You think you're clever, but I'd say K-On! is one of their smarter shows.
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>>143267383
No need for bitterness, anon. K-On has plenty layers of cake.
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>>143267062
>>143267292
>>143267316
>>143267440
And another thread falls victim to the fedora-tier circle-jerk of kyoanus lickers.
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>>143267383
Like how Azusa lightened up on the club when she realized how hard Yui works? Or how Ritsu is a poorfag or Mugi has inhuman amounts of strength?
Or perhaps how the original four Keions started acting like actual senpais and how Azusa started to look up to them?
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OH boy the kyoanus tards have showed up, claiming their moe fanservice shit is deep.

GUYS
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Maybe once or twice a year, if ever. They don't sell. No sales mean no motivation.

Moe, harems, and action shows for 9 year old boys are what people want to watch.

Anyone with some brain power knows that most of what sells in any medium in media is garbage because it's made to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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Well there's Joker Game this season.
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>>143263497
What's going on with the new LOGH series?

Is it still happening?
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Kizu
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>>143267626
I thought even people who watched the show didn't think it was any good?
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>>143263497
>shin sekai yoris
Based on real novel. 400% Flop
>uchouten kazokus
Based on real novel. Don't remember sales.
>ping pongs
>tatami galaxies
Tatami based on real novel + Yuasa is BIG as fuck name like M.
>mushishis
Flop.
>Kyousougiga
300% Flop
>Space Dandy
300% flop in japan

>Lads, how long til we get another classic anime again?
Never I think. It's become worse every year. People actually don't buy this type of shows if they don't have big names. You need to force "normal audience" develop a taste. Or force otaku trashLN eaters to develope taste. Look at last Ghibli show for example. 400% flop and it's not even haremshit. Or remember Aoi Bungaku. Only japanese artists cares about all those shows. But maybe there is still a chance. Poligon studio (yeah 3D shit) said streaming helps them a lot. Sadamoto said streaming has potential for anime industry
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>>143266447

>infantile shit like Sora no Woto
>incredible

Pick one.
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>>143267779
>mushishis
>Flop.

Not at all.
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>>143267779
>Don't remember sales.
Remember anon saying those were good.

>Look at last Ghibli show for example. 400% flop and it's not even haremshit.
What the fuck did you mean with this?
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15th year anniversary next year, I still have hope.
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>>143268057
Sanzoku no Musume Ronja is Ghibli anime based on book written by Astrid Lindgren. Target audience was "normal" people but it flopped hard. Zero sales.
And remember Animatorexpo? Khara + Hideaki Anno. It's supposed to show "normal" people how great and awesome animation. Tons of retweets and likes on twitter. Articles on "popular websites". Great, huh? Zero BD sales. Hard flop.
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>>143264524
>period piece drama
How are you with women?
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>>143268537
That's the trap the gaming industry fell into. They tried to cater to the normal people, the casuals, the shitty players. It ruined everything.

What we need is more obscure stuff. Not necessarily otaku focused series like Genshiken but more among the lines of SSY and Haibane Renmei.
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>>143267779
>hita-hita
Holy shit, thanks for posting that. I've been trying to find it again but I'd forgotten the name.
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>>143265684
Luluco is not sexy

She's pure and not for sexual
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>>143268829
>That's the trap the gaming industry fell into
But it sells well. Meanwhile if you try to make, for example, "2001 Nights" anime adaptation with great animation and minimum quality it will flop.
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>>143269051
I'm not sure if it works the same way in the anime industry. Reusing concepts and creating shitty generic series seems to be the way to cash in.
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>tfw there has never been a legitimately good anime
IT'S JUST NOT FAIR LADS WHY DO ALL OTHER MEDIUMS OF ENTERTAINMENT GET THE GOURMET MEALS WHILE WE GET THE SCRAPS
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>>143265492
>KLK
>A modern classic
I mean, it was popular, but it's not exactly something someone would point to when they want to show anime is capable of mature storytelling.

>>143265568
God damn that's some high level plebery.
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>>143266029
If Mob's animation remains as consistently great as those previews have implied, I will absolutely call that shit a masterpiece.
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>>143269432
Our medium of choice is produced by borderline slave labor and sustained by obsessive shut-ins. Given that, the turn out for TOUR DE FORCE has been astoundingly good.
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>>143263497
We don't have classics, the medium is too young. Give it a few hundred years to mature.
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>>143263714
>i
Do you have brain damage?
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>>143265591
Stay there, retard.
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>>143264393
I care, please kill yourself.
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This isn't high art here. TV anime has always been cheap entertainment for retards. It's always been more about selling you shit than presenting a story. In recent years things have been getting a bit more blatant, but only by a little bit.
"Mature anime for a mature audience" bullcrap is the tiny exception, and more often than not it's not nearly as 'good' or 'mature' as you think it is. Especially considering the garbage you posted, just last season we had Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu and I bet you dropped it after one episode because it was "too boring".
There'll come a day when you'll look back on this shitty thread and want to die of embarrassment for opening it.


The secret is to watch anime movies, that's where directors with an actual creative drive go.
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>>143264302
It didn't have any cute high school age girls.
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>>143270852
There are a lot more tv classics and likewise a lot more talented directors who work on series rather than film.
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>>143271121

LN trash.
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>>143270852
Why are you here?
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>>143267497
thats just character development, not layers
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>>143271323
Why are you, stupid /tv/ fucktard?
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>>143263497

>Shin Sekai Yori

Is this really good?
I love the rest of the anime you listed but I can't get past Episode 1 of this.
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>>143268921
agreed, reminds me of Ashizuri Suizokukan
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>>143271528
First few episodes have a lot of exposition but if you like thick atmosphere and crazy transhumanism then give it another shot. I always loved how the story never left the main character's perspective besides the flashbacks in the early episodes.
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>>143263497
Why would I give a shit about whether I could convince someone else that it's good, let alone someone who doesn't like anime? That's fucking retarded, I only care whether I like it.
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>>143266029
You forgot Amanchu.
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>>143271528
Gets really good episode 8
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>>143265386
>Another
Are you fucking kidding me?
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>>143272120
I'm not really familiar with recent Satojun and it's supposed to be Aria lite, a series which I don't even like to begin with. I'm sure there's appeal to some crowd but I don't think it'll really wow anybody. Even if it's great we all know Love Live will be the superior girls show next season.
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>>143272482
>recent Satojun
It's Kenichi Kasai. Sato's the chief director only, people just don't know how to read fucking staff lists so misinformation has gotten around.
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>>143272579
He did Aoi Hana? That was good. Either way I'm still skeptical.
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>>143264496
It's themes are pretty basic
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>>143274693
Regular people don't give a fuck about themes, they care about having to read a lot of subtitles describing a cartoon character's relationship with a sex doll.
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>>143263497
We just got Shouwa Rakugo and everyone ignored it
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When the fuck are they going to announce the premiere date of Rakugo's 2nd season goddamn it

>>143265492
>It's too episodic to fit the kind of thing you mean.
All the OP specified was that "you could actually make an argument to anyone that it's good entertainment regardless of the medium it is home to." I don't see how being episodic precludes Mushishi from being a great show (and one you don't have to lower your expectations for just because it's anime).
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>>143275217
Probably not far off, I'd expect winter plus or minus a season.
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>>143266290
Jojo was a classic before it was an anime.
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>>143276754
Fucking newfags.
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SSY is fucking trash next to those other shows
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>>143271528
It's not a masterpiece by any stretch but it's a pretty decent dystopian sci-fi deal once you get past the EXPOSITION EXPOSITION EXPOSITION of the first few episodes
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>>143275144
>and everyone ignored it
The fuck are you talking about. It was one of the most popular shows of the season on here.
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>Implying Mob Psycho isn't going to be the Ping Pong of our generation

>>143275217
It's in fall, so towards the end of the coming season
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>>143277039
Source on it being confirmed for fall?
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>>143277001
To shitpost about maybe. Rakugo only had two threads hit the bump limit in twelve weeks, most of the praise the show got came at the last week by people who marathoned it near the end of the season when they decided to give "fujoshit" a chance. Konosuba and Boku Dake were definitely the most popular.
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>>143269432
>Not using the pizza and the crust metaphor
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>>143277001
No, it fucking wasn't. One of the most well-regarded by the people who did watch it, maybe, but certainly not in the top five for most viewers or most discussion.
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>>143277117
>>143277305
It did better in AOTS polls than a lot of shows (pretty much everything but KonoSuba) that had more viewers.
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>>143277366
Because the people who watched it, loved it.
Well regarded isn't the same as popular. Rakugo had one, manybe two threads a week that never hit bump limit. Boku dake had the entire catalog for the one scene with the kid.
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>>143277366
if you read >>143277305 again, you'll hopefully notice that that's exactly what I said.
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>>143263651
kys
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Finished watching Kyousou Giga yesterday.
Shit was good as hell. I almost didn't believe that this anime is from modern Toei.

Why /a/ doesn't discuss about this?

>>143263497
The closest thing similar with SSY is Erin. And both of them are great.
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>>143277646
>kys
Fuck off
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>>143277816
They do, every OP thread.
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>>143277430
>>143277610
I guess I was counting popular as the number of people who actually liked it. A lot more people watched Boku Dake but hated it. I don't consider crossboarders spamming cuck memes a sign that the show was popular with /a/.
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>you now realize that you have grown out of anime
>time only ruins anime
It's also Evangelion's fault, once you """""understand"""""" EVA, anime really is garbage.
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>>143277816
It's pretty popular. /a/ has a crush on Matsumoto, even though no one acknowledges Heartcatch as her masterpiece.
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>>143277844
>OP thread
What do you mean by this? OP song? Over powered? Or (OP) >>143263497?
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>>143277816
I think it was because the plot kind of dropped the ball in the last few eps.
You also have to consider how the web project of kyousogiga made the audience extremely hyped for the show, leading to some amount of disappointment despite its great quality.
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>>143277862
>actually liked it
But that's not what that poll tells you. It tells you the number of people who had it as their favorite, which isn't even close to the same thing.
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I think Kekkai Sensen and Space Dandy at least needs a mention.
I mean hell, Kekkai Sensen was hella popular before the fucking scheduling madness and the hype dying down.
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>>143277921
>Heartcatch
Precurefag said this one is the greatest series from its franchise.
Should I watch it even I just following the first season of Pretty Cure 1?
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>>143276792
classic /a/
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>>143265759
tfw people don't realize jojo is a parody series
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>>143278045

Kekkai Sensen is a piece of shit.
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>>143266290
Anon, I think you have lost what is the golden rule of all anime.
Fun things are FUN
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>>143278045
Space Dandy is absolutely a modern classic, but Kekkai Sensen has less critical favour. Too disorienting, plot was kinda dumb and hacked together.

>>143278061
I haven't seen too much Precure but it's fucking great in its own right. The last excellent mahou shoujo, in my opinion. Beginning is a bit slow but still good because it's well written (from the writer of Doremi!), but the latter half is insanely good. Highly recommended.
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>>143265648
>Jojo
>"mature/serious"
I like Jojo too, buddy, but Jojo isn't anything near ""mature/serious""
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>>143277994
>dropped the ball in the last few eps.
Which one? The part that the Myoue father is the antagonist?

>>143278045
>Space Dandy
It's fun in my opinion. The problem with this franchise is the amount of 'bad' episodes has overshadowed the quality good episodes.
12 episodes of Dandy (only good episodes) is way better.
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>>143278136
on a side note, that pic comes from the arguably best hentai of all time
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>>143278155
>Too disorienting, plot was kinda dumb and hacked together.
I'll admit that, but I think it was good enough attempt to piece in a plot to a series with absolutely no plot at all, and thrived only with it's character and world.

At least the visual and musical direction was absolutely amazing. I still remember the hype when Ode to Joy was played during the Chess ep.
Besides, you have to admit the girls were cute, espeially white.
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Erased kind of applies to this. Although it's developed a sort of hatred with the later episodes.
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>>143278223
>The problem with this franchise is the amount of 'bad' episodes has overshadowed the quality good episodes.

I thought this was especially true of the first season to the point it was a bad experience. S2 is far more balanced and experimental. When it relied on cliches to evoke pathos or just tired jokes, it really just fell flat on its face e.g. that romantic comedy bit with Scarlett and Dandy was so terrible.
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>>143278456
Erased was bad. not good, bad. Erased was pretty bad, not good, it was bad, bad: bad.
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>>143277994
>the web project of kyousogiga made the audience extremely hyped for the show
I actually think I dropped it at the first episode since it was basically the same as the first web series episode but with worse music.
I've occasionally heard good things about it since, but I have a sort of bias against it now.
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>>143268537
Animator Expo had zero BD sales because it wasn't even released on BD,
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>>143277828
kys
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>>143278456
Erased was still very anime, with moments where the main character has to remind himself lolis are not for sexual.
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>>143279296
>kys
Fuck off.
>>>/youtube/
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>>143263497
>Lads
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