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End of the ride for Ushio and Tora.
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oh....
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>everything about this episode
I even felt bad for Hakumen, the thing didn't want to be born as the epitome of evil
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>>143253280
who are the two characters on the left?
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>>143253412
Yeah, that was the point.
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What the hell.
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So what was Hakumen's real name?
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Is the anon who named his cat Tora still here?
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well it was a fun ride while it lasted
i'm glad i got to watch beside you guys.
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That was pretty great, might pick up the manga in the future since a considerable chunk was cut.
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>>143254036
That was one of the best parts of the manga.
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>>143254115
>naming your cat tiger.
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>>143254455
>not naming your cat dog
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Fuck.
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>>143254455
>Naming your tiger Hobbes
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Does anyone have more pics of this qt?
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Surprisingly enough Hakumen was a 10/10 villian the entire ride
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>Ushio doesn't actually kiss any of the girls
For fucks sake, doujins when
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>>143255082
For what?
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>>143255422
For fuck's sake.
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>>143255443
Why?
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>>143255478
Fuck is inherently worth giving a fuck about.
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This is in my top 3 of all time.
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>HAKUMEN YOU ARE SCARED RIGHT?!
>YES AND? FUCK YOU!
Hakumen I'll miss you
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>>143255536
Well, I mean, season 2 was a solid 10/10, but top 3? I wouldn't say so
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Ending would have been better if he turned into a beast, More impact and memorable.

S1 was way better, The amnesia thing was pretty irritating.

Well worth watching though it was a great ride despite threads never taking off on /a/.
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>>143255352
Just image search かがりうしおととら
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>>143255420
There are a lot, theyre just not scanlated.
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>3 seconds of screentime
>consisting of nothing meaningful at all
>and without a single line of dialogue

Asako is the most worthless character.
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Karakuri circus next?
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2spooky4me
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>>143255998
it looks like a goblin shark.
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>>143255970
The ED kicking in right as she was about to speak made me laugh.
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>>143256036
Nah, one of the afuze from the last episode looked like a goblin shark.
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>>143255970
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>>143255700
Agreed. Fujita dropped the ball.
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>>143256529
Gauging her own eyes out was fucking great.
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Hakumen's voice is fucking glorious
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Most dissapointing ending of the year, i cannot believe i wasted 39 episodes for this "everything is happy good shit".
Hakumen tragic back story in five minutes is just what this show needed to completely make it the greatest asspull of the season
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>>143256602
>her
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>>143256622
>>143256645
>>>/co/
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>>143256529
Can someone please edit Ushio out? I want to use this later.
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was neat
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>>143253280
QUALITY
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>>143253280
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"I-it's not like we did it for you, B-BAKA!!!"
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too rush
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>>143254036
>becomes even more insane than usual and blinds itself before becoming sanic
>only to be completely clueless to the enemy's position 2 minutes later
What was even the point

I still love you, Hakumen-chan. RIP in pieces.
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Was this incest?
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Gekkou Jourei is kinda bad.
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>>143257280
You are kinda bad.
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>>143257190
No, Ushio is pure.
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This final cour wasn't very good. It was too rushed. Too much was left out. Most of the season was the final fight. The pacing was just bad.

I couldn't tell if at the end Tora came back somehow. The epilogue was retarded. And Ushio and best girl didn't even get together.

6/10
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>>143257280

Well, I think it's the contrary...
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>>143257521
What are your favorite arcs in the manga ? What do you think about the ending?
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>>143256615
Amen to that brother.
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>>143257597

I'm following the french publication but it's really slow and we have only 17 books over 29 (and maybe that the others won't be published, sadly :/ )
I really like the 1001 nights arc but I can't really pronounce myself since I don't know how it ends.
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>>143257486
I agree that best girl didn't win but at least she didn't die.

>I couldn't tell if at the end Tora came back somehow
Also this.
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>>143257715
Don't use emoticons on /a/.
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Wish more people would scanlate Fujita's works
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>>143257622
Hayashibara has legendary range. From working on pic related to recently voicing that evil bitch in Genroku Rakugo.
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So at the end the hakumen was a her but what was the name she wanted to be called?
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>>143258195
bitch
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>>143258195
Nobody knows which is why it's so tragic. RIP in peace forever, Hakumen
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Ushio and Asako don't get together? Are you kidding me? How disappointing.
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Hayashibara was god tier as usual.
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>>143253280
That yakuza member and the mask monster were fucking GOAT
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That ending was pretty garbage. It's like they wrapped everything with every side character except the ones I care about. I was planning to read the manga, but now I don't even know if I want to.
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It was alright. I give it a 7.5/10. Best girl.
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>>143255638
My top 3 are Hxh , Gintama, and this. Unlike a lot of people here I don't have a problem with a series that is initially slow or episodic. It's all about how big the pay off is. How big are the biggest moments. My jaw literally dropped a good half a dozen times starting from the beast spear creation flashback. It's been a hell of a ride.
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>>143253425
yakuza guy that was terminally ill and returning to his home village before dying, despite feeling alienated from his town he still gave his life helping Ushio beat a fog demon that threatened it.

The other guy was a mind reading bakemono that met a child that survived a plane crash but was left blind, the child believed the monster to be his father and was eventually taken to a hospital when rescued. The bakemono grew impatient because they were taking too long to fix his eyes and was worried about how scared the boy was in the hospital. He went around killing and taking the eyes of his victims in order to give him back his sight and so they'd go back to living together in the mountains. Ushio tried to reason with him by letting him read his mind and showing images of how the boy wouldn't like it if he found out he killed people and of how it was impossible for the boy to live with him once he discovered he wasn't his dad. The monster freaked out and Ushio was forced to kill him because he was about to kill some hospital staff and patients that were in his way as he ran. Ushio went on to lie to the boy about his father having to go away and felt like complete shit afterwards.
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>>143259125
>Unlike a lot of people here I have watched over 20 full animes and am a true anime connosieur.
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>>143257163
The point was to have Tora heroically sacrifice himself.
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>>143255700
>The amnesia thing was pretty irritating.
It felt like being stabbed repeatedly every time Ushio met another person that didn't remember him. Shit was heart wrenching.
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Holy shit, this last episode killed me.
Sacrifices everywhere, Hakumen is actually a sad misunderstood guy whose name will never be known, and Nagare died for real and left that hot piece of motorcycle alone God knows where.
What's up with Tora at the end? Is he back as a human or just back?
Should I immediately start reading the manga? How different is it from the anime?
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>>143260070
Manga has more arcs that the anime cut see >>143253280
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>>143253412
I teared up a little
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>>143253280
Of course they'd cut out a few arcs. 3 cours for a source material that has 300+ chapters is just not enough. Four cours weren't even enough for Assassination Classroom which was a 180 chapters manga since they cut a couple of arcs and a few chapters.
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>>143255352

>>143255970
It was pretty much confirmed that they liked each other, when Ushio was boarding the Undine.
This part isn't even in the manga.

>>143257486
You aren't supposed to know if Tora came back, the mirror old man said that as he is a youkai he has a chance of coming back.
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>>143256529
GIGA DRILLU BREAKA
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>>143252228
't was fun guys
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>>143254036
I think he could've had he not did that stupid shit
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>>143257190
You know I actually thought she was going to die
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>>143259785
From a meta perspective it makes perfect sense, but Hakumen really did go full retard by doing that.
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>>143259785
Which was equally stupid. Even without eyes Hakumen still should have been able to smell and hear them. Especially considering how long they spent screaming at each other.
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>>143262761
He did it out of a combination of frustration, shame. You could also say it was also because his eyes couldn't help but focus on the spear out of the sheer terror he had for it, seeing it served more as a distraction than an advantage. Without this he could focus absolutely everything on killing Ushio and Tora instead of his well being, it was an attempt to mute out his fear.
>>143262812
This though was a fuck up. He was blind, not deaf.
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Time to do this.
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>its villain sob story time
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She had the best reactions. Into the pile of good characters wasted in shit series she goes.
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>>143263927
Hakumen was Dentiny's Child all along
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I'd rather become beast though.
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I was planning to read the manga even though I finished already. Still worth it?
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>>143264915
They skipped the boring parts like the college kids. The adaptation did great for 3 cours.
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>>143262483
Something this cute can't be evil
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Even Mayuko could project her spirit self to other places after being barrier woman for a couple of days, so why did this bitch never went for a visit?
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>>143265397
>mileage may vary between barrier women
How far was mayuko projection anyway?
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Tsundere even in the last episode.
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>>143253280
What the fuck is up with his pants? At first I thought he had peed himself.
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>>143259729
Not that guy but considering how old the source material is, it was pretty awesome seeing the tropes it established for future battle shounen in manga form come to life through the anime.

The final fight did also have quite alot of payoffs (though certainly not as much as the manga due to cut content).
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what was its best face?
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Pretty good. I'm kinda glad I got to finish and watch this weekly, while there are arcs removed and whatnot, to finally complete the series I first followed from reading the manga (though still unfinished) probably a decade or so ago was nice.
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>>143256622
>Most dissapointing ending of the year, i cannot believe i wasted 39 episodes for this "everything is happy good shit".
Millions of yokai and humans are dead
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Is he less worthless in the manga? For being a dark version of the MC with his own magical weapon and yokai partner, he did a whole lot of nothing as a good guy.
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Why can't MCs ever be with their ghost friends forever
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First time i came to a ushio to toro thread because i wanted to avoid spoilers. now i have nothing to say,
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>>143266519
In the manga his partner died in this part.
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>>143266563
Bimbogami ended? Fuck, s2 never then.
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>>143267135
No but enjoy your 51 episodes of Sousei no Onmyouji filler instead :^)
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>>143252228
So the part people said might piss some off is that Mayuko ended up with the shota? The shota was fine by the end, and after that scene where Mayu combed Tora's hair and we all cried a little, we knew that wasn't the end game. At least Tora gets to be with his waifu now in the afterlife.
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>>143255700
>114 KB JPGEnding would have been better if he turned into a beast, More impact and memorable.
Sure, if you're an idiot who thinks muh bittersweet is all that matters. When you realize that the grudge the spear held literally died with Hakumen and the beast transformation was no longer rooted in the plot, then no it really wouldn't have been better.
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>>143253280
apologize
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>>143267425
>At least Tora gets to be with his waifu now in the afterlife.

The implication at the end was that because Shagaksha became a youkai, he would eventually resurface, hence "Let's go Tora!" at the end.
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>>143265001
They skipped through some nice parts too but yeah those college guys that eventually came back to help memory wiped Asako see Ushio were boring.
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>>143267691
He could eventually resurface. It still looks like his waifu came to pick him up to go to the afterlife.

Also, do humans die and then get reborn as youkai, or are they completely different things?
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>>143260142
are you my little sis?
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Even in death Hakumen made great faces.
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>>143265979
You posted it
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>>143257486
>I couldn't tell if at the end Tora came back somehow.
He didn't, the last bit with Tora yelling is basically the very last page of the manga
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How is this series? Is the anime fucked?
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>>143267756
The ending seems to imply that humans "return to the Earth" in a form of decomposition of body while their spirits go to the next world (into that gate presumably), whereas youkai vanish from the world and may have a chance to come back?

I'm sure that vague ending was intentional on getting people like us to discuss the possibilities.
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>>143267406
Seriously that show is so badly managed it is upsetting. Why the fuck would anyone greenlight 5 cours when only 2 cours are needed to get caught with the source material.

It isn't even that popular jesus christ.
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>>143260142
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For all the ones who didnt understood the ending, now i'm telling you what's happened

>hakumen no mono was finally destroyed
>tora is dead
>the vast majority of the monsters in japan becomes stone to support the country
>kemono no yari is gone forever
>jie mei and his brother is gone
>the kouamei sect is now useless
>mayuko lost his love and gained a little brother
>ushio will be graced and can live a normal life

About what the mirror youkai said, it's just a what if, humans are humans and when they gone they are lost forever, youkai are part of mythology of japan, and they can never really die, this dont mean the exact youkai will come back to life, just he will never die in japanese traditions. When ushio pass trough the basement where meet tora the first time and call him, it's just a memory from the past, tora is gone forever and ushio will never forgive him even if he moves away. Deal with it, this is not the good ending shounen you like to read, this is life
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveOZSBBuRw
Thoughts on this?
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>>143271155
>the kouamei sect is now useless
Eh they basically accomplished their mission. I'd say they can pat themselves on the back at least and human/bakemono relationships seem to have a solid chance to improve in the future (with the ones that didn't become rock) from the trust they placed on each other while facing Hakumen. Just because there's some sad parts about it doesn't mean it was a good ending.
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>>143271155
>ESLfag thinking he can explain writing
You guys are cute.
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>>143270539
>Meanwhile, Soul Eater remake never ever
>Needless S2 never
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>>143271312
no one deny this, but is also sad if you think many of them build their whole lives to kill hakumen and now they are what?

>>143271346
Belive me or not, i dont care about this, but in the early 2000s i had a mail exchange with Fujita sensei and he told me my interpretation to the ending was very similar to what he want express
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>>143260142
she will be reborn as Ushio's daughter and have adventures with Uncle Tora

she became yang after dying like Tora
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>>143271679
They'll deal with monsters terrorizing humans, though they definitely should not be as lethal as they once were now that there might be some sort of friendship born between youkai and humans.
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>>143271679
>I don't care
>But I was pen pals with the author and I know, trust me
Oh yeah, I'm sure. And I'm also sure you have some form of proof you can show as well.
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Is the anon who was watching this show with his little cousins who loved Tora still here?
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>>143271287

pellek is shit
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>>143271782
yeah, they are now more accepted and understood to human beings, but they will never end to lives in human mythology
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Who was best girl?
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>>143274152
Asako a shit, tomboys a shit.
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>>143274152
Kirio
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>>143274152
It's either Mayuko or Saya.
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>>143274152
Tora!
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edgy
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>>143274152
tora, of course
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>>143274152
Hamburger-chan.
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>>143274152
Should I seek help if the dead-eyed pale woman that acts as Hakumen's avatar/proxy arouses me to diamonds?
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>>143274576
Hakumen is just like Hitler.

She did nothing wrong.
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Too bad they had to ruin it by dragging the ending out for like 6 episodes when they should have just packed it into like 2 or 3.
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>>143274694
There was always a certain sadness to her.
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>>143274779
I actually would liked to have a full episode of Hakumen's past just like Tora.
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>>143252228
well fuck, I need to finish this. I watched this first cour of season 1 and never picked it back up

I kind of hate myself for it right now
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>>143274911
Same here, I haven't even finished the first season.
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>>143274777
Ik, Hakumen is just a cute loli
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>>143274911
Just read the manga.
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>>143274152
Ushio
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>>143275445
Delete this
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Asides from the constant use of stills in the animation and skipping the Western Bakemono War arc, it was a reasonable adaptation.
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>>143275679
>and skipping the Western Bakemono War arc
I only read the manga but how the fuck did they introduce them in the anime then?
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>>143271770
I always thought the show might end up being better if Ushio was a cute girl.

I'd watch a sequel of reincarnated Hakumen as a cute and daring loli.
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>>143275932
To be quite honest it is a pretty damn good adaptation given how they only had 3 cours to work with and 300+ chapters of source material.
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>>143275932
Shinno and his followers just kind of appear during the memory loss arc.
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>>143276000
Wow, that's sort of silly since in the manga his brain kept screaming at the back of his head that they couldn't do it without Ushio even though he couldn't remember him just because of how traumatic Hakumen raping the western bakemono was for him. It was entertaining how rightfully terrified he was of facing Hakumen without the beast spear.
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>>143276000
>>143276077

As an anime only, I was kinda left confused and owndering who the fuck these guys were
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>>143275966
Anyone have those genderbend images posted last week?
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>>143276111
Basically, he was the leader of the western bakemono of japan that wanted to strike at Hakumen because he had amassed a shit ton of demons that could create and control powerful barriers, so they'd use them to rip through the barrier Ushio's mother had set up and attack Hakumen. They were raped and Ushio had to save them. It was also a nice arc because it let those ferret demon siblings shine for a bit.
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>>143276184
Oh and it also had a scene where Hakumen recognized Ushio as the kid he saw in China.
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>>143276222
Also, there was the bit that detailed the specific moment that made Hakumen afraid of the Beast Spear to begin with.
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>>143276399
It was a pretty funny moment
>Average Hakumen no Mono day, going from place to place taking countless lives
>suddenly something comes from behind, looks like a spear, wonder what it wa
>oh god it's stabbing me! What the hell is this thing? Oh god it won't stop, oh fuck oh fuck get away from me!
>proceeds to sacrifice two tails just to keep it at bay and run
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One thing I liked about the series was how much ferocity the author managed to put into his fights through the artwork, really made name of the beast spear ring true.
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>>143274152
Obviously Asako
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>>143274238
This. Asako is so shit she got cut off by the music in the epilogue.
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>>143274152
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>>143277575
At least tell me this, did the anime cover the cute date chapter she had with Tora when Ushio sent them on an errand?
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>>143252228
Great End. By the end you can feel like the really left out a lot of content, but this was a really good ride.
Emotion, cheesy but epic speeches, action and one the greatest villains I have seen in a While.
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>>143277613
Yes. it was kawaii
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>>143278294
Wait fuck, I'm thinking of mayuko
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>>143278327
Yeah it didn't make much sense to me, since the date chapter was during the epilogue of the western bakemono war arc. So I was wondering how they'd go around that since Ushio was staying in the castle for a bit before heading on home.
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I wanted to see kuin dies scene.
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>>143278557
Me too, I never cared for it nor the out of place edgy scythe wielding bishounen brat.
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>>143278557
Would anyone that read the manga call this a faithful adaptation given that they only had 3 cours to work with?
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Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyZPvtkuMv4&list=PLAB6910E8EB12DE1B&index=1
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>>143278954
God bless your shining soul
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>>143271679
Can you please ask him why is Gekkou Jourei such a big let down especially the ending ?
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>>143267074
Kuin survived? That's some bullshit right there.
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>>143266519
Did the anime cover the short arc he had with the monkeys?
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>>143269402
Yea, Mappa and Studion Voln blew it though the voice acting in the anime was very good.
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>>143279513
Sadly not. When he was nakamafied by Ushio he disappeared then showed later living with Mayuko.
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>>143279513
Unfortunately no.
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>>143279574
Damn, comes to no surprise so much had to be cut to compress so many fucking chapters into a 3 cour anime.
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>>143279614
When you look at it from the perspective of how many episodes they had, they really did a fine job.
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>>143279652
It's a surprise they managed to maintain a cohesive enough story.
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>>143257715
Did they manage to finish published all volume of Karakuri Circus in French?
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Goddamn, Tora dying has me all depressed. I think I'll go adopt a big orange maine coon and name it Tora.
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Is funnuraba watching this thread?
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>>143280225
funnuraba is dead anon
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Haha time for Tora
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>>143280221
I support your decision
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>>143253280
>skipped out the eye youkai and the yakuza
I know its because the length didn't allow it, but damn they cut off some incredible emotional MotW eps.
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>>143278954
Now for comfy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tuX9WTkUNSk
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>>143278761
They did a fine work, and wasn't the author himself the one that decided what to animate and what to skip?
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>>143274576
Hakumen is far from edgy he is just evil just because fuck you, and that's actually far better for these kind of shows
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>>143258919
At least read the manga's gaiden.
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Woah, looking up the manga and I didn't realise Tora originally have rabbit ears, glad the new anime got rid of them.
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>>143278557
They skipped him with Shagaksha in the past as well, it's a shame I liked those bits
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>>143252228
>End
Finally.
It's time to download them all.
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>>143254360
You should. The manga is considered one of the classic shounen in Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPXdQIwkoU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrvlfaapk-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6y0vqIBRTw
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>>143282579
Don't forget to check the manga.
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>>143255970
more like assako
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>>143284805
>the beach episode
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>>143259859
THIS, I really felt for him. This was an amnesia gimmick done right
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>>143282932
WHOS THAT FUCKING WHITE PIECE OF SHIT?!
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>>143286438
Some engineer I think
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>>143265979
What is this face trying to convey?
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good
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>>143287662
She wants your dick.
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As someone who loved the manga, I am, while a bit iffed, am satisfied. Hey did a good job for what they could work with. I'd honestly recommend the manga more though for a more definite experience considering my favorite arcs were cut.

I'm hoping the author's other works gets some anime as well.

Also, Seal of Geduo movie when?
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Hakumen ended up being pretty lame in the end. m-muh pure evil villains are the worst.
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