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Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
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Nausicaa did nothing wrong.

Namulith is best character, anyone who disagrees can go eat shit
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>>143127413
Namulith a cuck.
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>>143127413
Do you think humanity will survive after what she did or will they all vomit blood and die once the sea of corruption is done fixing things?
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It's been some time since I've read the manga so some of what I'm about to write might be wrong.

How did they survive in the sand area below the sea of corruption without masks?
They are these genetically created not actual humans that need a more toxic air to survive and I think there was this area far away where they couldn't survive and coughed blood because the air was too clean. The sea of corruption existed to cleanse the land and make way for the actual humans and once the world is pure again, they would be born inside that crypt and retake the earth.
But if the sea of corruption was supposed to clean the air that was so pure that it made the genetically modified humans cough up blood, then how come Nausicaa and that guy survived down there? Shouldn't the air there be just as clean as the air far far away?
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>>143127413

>Nausicaa did nothing wrong.

She wasn't wearing pants though. Yes, I am baiting you fucking idiot.
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>>143128561
That's what I assume. Granted that will take thousands of years and the forests will still be expanding so humanity at large will due out from that. That would just leave the forest people and they already know what's up.

I was honestly surprised with how bleak the manga wascompared to the movies. We'really watching humanity on the downward slope with no chance of coming back.
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>>143129188
>But if the sea of corruption was supposed to clean the air that was so pure that it made the genetically modified humans cough up blood, then how come Nausicaa and that guy survived down there?
Same here but from what I remember she didn't actually get to the 100% purified part. It's not the oartially clean area below, but the area in the center of the forest where only Selm's people have seen in person, before they died.

Although there's a chance Nausicaa alone can survive now thanks to the Heedra tinkering in that lotus eater garden she saw. I can't remember that part either.
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>>143129325
>with no chance of coming back
Nausicaa believes there is hope. Evolution could still happen.
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>>143129513
>>143129325

It's basically "go harmony or die". There's not enough supremacy tech in ghibliverse.
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>>143127413
She was a shitty Mary Sue.
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>>143129468
It's been a long time since I've read the manga. But I always figured it was her and her descendants who would survive.
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Why is Kushana so perfect? Would devotedly follow into every battle and help restore the Torumekian Kingdom afterwards should I live that long.

>>143130867
I dunno, the shit she pulled in the end was pretty questionable. And even if she was right in the end that was still genocide and she knows it.
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>>143130979
Kushana is great.
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>>143130928
Fuck you're right. Nausicaa's body was modified otherwise she'd have spewed blood and died too. But she left the garden just like that without further changes. Assuming the modifications are gene-deep, if she has babies and spreads her DNA around subsequent generations, humans could survive the pure air.

>tfw Nausicaa needs to have sex and procreate in order to save the human race
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>>143131205
>tfw Nausicaa needs to have sex and procreate in order to save the human race

A sacrifice I'm willing to make.
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>>143131455

You and over half of the world's population.
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>>143131588
Well, that's essentially what it'd take. She'd have to ideally be constantly pregnant until her uterus can't take anymore with multiple fathers from diverse genetic stock.
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Doesn't Nausicaa's world have any isolated islands or something? Does the sea of corruption spread over the oceans?
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>>143131719
Hopefully Nausicaa will enjoy getting bred endlessly.
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I liked how it turned out that the giant warriors were basically automated judges of humanity's sins. Ohma got fucking scary by the end.

Anyone else here own the manga box set? It's amazing.
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>>143132651

Sure, the huge swarm of tanks is scary. What's scarier is that wherever they go, they spread the sea of corruption too. Even if you manage to kill 99% of them, you still lose if even one of them gets near your settlement.
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>>143133173

Ohma, not Ohmu.
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>>143131791
>Does the sea of corruption spread over the oceans?
No, winds from the oceans are one the thing protecting the valley of the winds.
The problem seems to be that the oceans are strongly polluted.
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>>143131109
Kurotowa is a relatively lucky man.
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>>143132651
Great edition, biggest manga in my collection together with Blame!
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>>143134533

Is that an LP? What am I looking at there.

A girlfriend gave me the manga box for my 30th birthday. I'd never seen such a nice manga printing before.
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>>143134831
It's an LD.
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>>143134831
>>143135502
How big are the books if a CD is that big? Or is that just packaging?
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>>143135789
An LD is significantly larger than a CD, more like an LP if you've ever seen one.
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>>143135789
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>>143135977
For some reason when I think laser disc I think of the compact discs I had growing up. Didn't know they made them that big but it's an older standard I take it?
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>>143136063
Compact Disc are a format for music and later expanded to data and other stuff, Laser Disc were for video. They became available at the same time but LD never broke through and VHS dominated the home video market in the western world until DVD took over.
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>>143129188
>How did they survive in the sand area below the sea of corruption without masks?
It turns out the poisonous spores aren't that poisonous to them: the remaining humans already adapted to the environment. It seems it's only huge doses of spores that kill people, and their life-long effects. That's what the whole end is about: kill the already present humans who actually need the toxic spores to survive, or let the biological computer create in the future (if at all) some kind of pure human race in a purified environment, which would be lethal to the evolved humans.
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>>143134831
Best part is I bought it together with lots of other LaserDisc anime from guy who didn't know what it was for like $12

Don't have player to watch any of it though
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>>143136252
This guy gets it.
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>>143132651
I got that like 2 months ago and still haven't read it, I should get to it today.
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>>143135789

>there are people ITT who are younger than LD

Literally newfags.
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>>143136252
Just too add, It wasn't a natural adaptation. The current humans are genetically modified to be able to tolerate the poison. The previous-generation never intended for them to survive after the forest cleared up the world.

>>143136153
Interesting.
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I finished the manga recently. Holy fuck does the manga make the movie look like garbage in comparison to how amazing it was.
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>>143136343

Oh shit that's awesome. I used to have a big LD collection of classic movies and a player to watch them on. It's funny when you have to flip the disc in the middle.
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>>143138040
Word.

And I love that movie.
Even the warriors of the wind version.
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>>143138156

We don't talk about that here on /a/.
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>>143138040
The manga makes all miayaki movies look piddly in comparison desu.
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>>143138605
Makes me Wish Princess Mononoke had a more expanded story.
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>>143138040
>that frustration when I have friends who love the movie but can never convince them to read the manga, in spite of my insistence that it's the best manga I've ever read
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>>143138040
>>143139251
Anyone know if he's still releasing that samurai manga?
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>>143136252
>>143129188
I seem to remember that the new humanity meant would still be genetically modified, supposedly in a way that would prevent them from waging nuclear war ever again.
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>>143139251
>that frustration when I have friends who love the movie but can never convince them to read the manga, in spite of my insistence that it's the best manga I've ever read
what makes you think that?
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>>143140894
Not him but you don't think it's a great manga at least?
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>>143140894
It's immaculately drawn, has an imaginative and complex world, has many excellent characters, and has a narrative drive with clear focus. I also love the subtlety of the backstory, how we find out about the world before the Seven Days of Fire through bits and pieces.

Plus, God Warriors are fucking awesome.
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>>143141448
The world building is the best I've seen in a manga and puts series that are a lot longer than this to shame. It's world is as complex as Dune or LOTR.

It has some of the most well written female characters in any series, and its probably one of the most mature manga I've read.
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>>143141448
All the the things you just listed were also in the movie adaption. So why do people act like the manga is superior to it?
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>>143138040

The movie is mediocre on its own without comparing it to the manga.
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>>143138040
If only Ghibli made an anime series adapting the whole manga, more people would know how different the full story is.
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>>143141607
>The movie is mediocre on its own without comparing it to the manga.
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>>143141640
It's criminal that so many people fancy themselves Miyazaki fans while never reading this, it's inarguably his magnum opus. The entire manga pretty much equals the content of all his movies.
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>>143141607
The movie is pretty much the equivalent of watching the Berserk movies rather than just reading the manga, except if the berserk movies didn't have awful CGI.
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>>143141730
This desu ne.
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