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So now we can all agree that this shit is finally good? It only took 3 Arcs but things are looking brighter for the first time........For now
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>>143114531
it started being good during the champa tournamet

but this arc gets more attention because it has MaixTrunks for shippers and black goku foe edgelords


i just want to see the new multiverse tournament already

the good thing about it is that we could get future trunks in team beerus
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>>143114696
>it started being good during the champa tournamet
Hell no, the only good fight was Goku Vs Hit and that one was barely decent. Th animation and drawing was still terrible and the story a lame rehash. Sure this new Arc is literally Fanfic Tier but at least it is somewhat interesting unlike the other ones.
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when's next episode i cant wait
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Aside from the premise and the execution it's perfect.
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>>143115036
Are you serious? Airs on saturdays, subs are done by sundays.
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>>143115098
I haven't followed this anime since the first few episodes. It's literally at 48 so I forgot when it airs or gets subbed
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>>143114696
>it started being good during the champa tournamet
This, Goku vs Hit is one of the best moments in the whole series, if only Toei delivered on the animation and fight choreography then it could have been even better along with the rest of the tournament.
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>>143115182
The Manga is way better in that regard
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>>143114531
>good
You really have to define "good" here. Compared to other anime? Hell no, the animation still sucks rancid asshole and storywise literally most fanfiction out there is better. Is it better and more interesting than the previous arcs? Of course
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>>143115216
Yeah but since it's an advertisement for the anime and monthly it's rushed as hell.
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Is the manga done with the tournament yet?
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>>143115182
>Goku vs Hit is one of the best moments in the whole series
>whole series
We're talking about Super here aren't we? Please tell me you talk about super
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>>143115270
Yes.
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>>143115274
I'm talking about the whole franchise if I didn't make that clear enough already.
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>>143114531
I'm actually watching it again after dropping it 3 episodes in.
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>>143115364
I'm in the soap boat but I haven't caught up yet. Hope this arc actually turns out to be good.
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>>143115338
Okay but how hard have you been hitting that bong while watching and how many brain cells has it killed exactly? I want to pull of a smilar experience so I have to know how to achive that state of high
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>>143114531
>guy1 - "Guys, Super is shit what can we do to make it better."
>guy2 - "DBZ fans like Goku, so why don't we have more of Goku."
>guy1 - "Ok, but he's already in Super."
>guy2 - "Yea, but make another one, in Black. Super Special Japanese Edition Black Goku. Fans will eat this shit up."
>guy1 - "Brilliant!"
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>>143115454
You never want to be in the soap boat, anon.
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>>143114752
Fuck you. Gimmick fights are always great. Especially when the gimmicks actually work (unlike poor Burter and Jakon). The only boring one was Cabba.
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>>143115499
works every time

they are just really good at making gokus
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>tfw having to wait another week
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I really love how mad this pairing is making casual fans

>>143114752
I legitimately liked the Cabba "fight"/training lesson. It was good character stuff
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>>143115567
>The only boring one was Cabba.
Fuck out of here, Vegeta interacting with Cabba was great and it actually had some decent animation and choreography. Can't wait to see more U6 Saiyans.
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>>143114531

>one of the darker arc with two characters dead
>brighter

I see what you did there, OP.
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>>143115499
>"remember the time we took Freeza and recollored him sending his powerlevel beyond anything else? Lets do that again only with Goku!"
"But we did that already, remember? He's blue now."
>"No this time he's from future! And black, kids like black don't they?"
"They sure do! You have once again proven to be the genius this generation of anime needs sir."
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>>143115785
Well I mean it worked.

You saw that rating spike right?
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>>143115604
waiting hasn't been that hard for me, there are plenty of dragon ball videogames ou there, so while i wait i just play modded tenkaichi 3 to recreate fights from super https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi_hg8AhIhI&feature=youtu.be

there is also dokkan battle and im also going to buy xenoverse during the next steam sale

and don't foget that we are getting xenoverse 2 this year too
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>>143115606
Dirty fujoshits and literal faggots are raging that their husbando has been taken by a christmas cake.
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>>143115578
If it's good enough for Kinnikuman, it's good enough for Goku.

Unfortunately, it wasn't good enough and actually it was the worst arc by far. But they tried. Zebra Goku when?
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>>143115812
no, i stopped watching super after ep5
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>>143115830

>Scrambled Egg arc is the worst arc

Screw you. Robin is allstar there.
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>>143115567
>The only boring one was Cabba

DELETE THIS!!!!
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>>143115812
I don't know what worked and what didn't man I just can't seriously believe that fans are this easilly satisfied. I mean sure I can understand that people watch this out of nostalgic reasons or because they want to know how this whole mess ends but they can't seriously think this is "good" compared to the original series can they?
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>>143115567

>most boring fight is not pooh

You're just cummins fanboy, right?
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>>143115947
You'd be calling the original series shit if you watched it today and had to wait a week per episode.
>muh pacing
>wow nothing happened
>QUALITY
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>>143115882
That's fine, but the rest of it was shit, from Kinnikuman's older brother who had never been mentioned before suddenly appearing right as they're mentioning him from the first time to the cheat armor to Kinnikuman's team changing every fucking panel, to Kinnikuman's "friends" not even joining his team right away except for Terry (who was a given) and Robin (who tried to kill him like 4 times).
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>>143115947
>I just can't seriously believe that fans are this easilly satisfied
It's Dragon Ball. It's not something people watch for heavy plot.

Also, it's literally a show for children
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>>143115932
>>143115968
How is Cabba not the most boring? It was just muh saiyan pride with Vegeta teaching him how to turn SS and then it was over. At least Pooh did something unique and Goku had to beat him in an unconventional way.
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>>143116045

>first bout
>second bout
>warsman
>4 times

Can you re-count this for me? Besides, ever since Warsman's fight, Robin has learned to see in a better light.

We never see Radish-head in dbz until he kidnapped his nephew. Your point?
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like i said in the other thread, goten and trunks should have been the main characters.
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>>143116161
>It was just muh saiyan pride
That's why I liked it
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>Everybody is making a big deal out of Black.
>Giving him a massive backstory.
>Implying its not stupid inane shit.

Black is a clone of Goku, it was Gero's last big experiment, if he couldn't beat him, he would clone him. Thats why its got all that machine hint shit, its why he is dressed with a red sash similar to red ribbon army, its why he has that one dumb ear ring that powers him up basically.

Remember, Trunks never destroyed the machine that created Cell, and he still looks like a fucking teenager.
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>>143114531
O shit they made Turles Canon
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>>143116189
>that pic

>>143116161
>he thinks "muh" is a good argument
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>>143114531
It was good since the beginning, but this new arc might just change that. All I wanted was more multiverse tournament, I never asked for this Goku Black GARBAGE, but I'm glad Future Trunks is back.
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>>143116181
I never said that Radditz was handled well either. Your point?
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>>143116211

The next thing you're going to say is that Gero uploaded his consciousness in a fucking computer to keep making new weapons to kill Goku with. Just like Dr Light in MMX series.
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>>143116211
We have a mysterious Kai in the opening, and Black has a earring similar to the Potara and some ring that will open a hole to a different timeline next episode.

It's obvious that he's going to be tied to all the god stuff, not any android.
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>>143116281
what anon you don't feed your digimon?
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>>143116189
They should have at least dealt with the filler goo by themselves. Seeing a Goten and Trunks space adventure turn into a Goku vs Vegeta fight was lame.

What else are Goten and Trunks going to get to do? Especially now with Goten being pushed into studying?
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>>143116302

And Kinnikuman is all about introducing new things out of nowhere. Like, at the most recent series, Kinnikuman is confirmed to be descended from a god. Your point?
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>>143116286
>multiverse tournament,
We just had one, let them change it up a little.
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>>143116319
May as well, its all shit anyway.
>>143116324

You guys do realize this is their way of taking Goku out of the series to give the VA a break, and stop power level bullshit, Super is shit, people know its shit, and is it really getting the ratings it needs to survive?
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>>143116319

Well, he did. Technically. It was the premise of the Android 13 movie.
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>>143115813
O right. Its a shame all Dragon Ball Games since Budokai Tenkaichi 3 are mostly shit. I'm surprise to see Xenoverse getting a sequel. Is it really good? I mean the gameplay when fighting cause i remember the other ones being utter shit
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>>143116286
>It was good since the beginning
You can't seriously think this
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>>143116260
i wish that was the case

it would have been a lot more interesting than this

every movie bad guy should be canon, except broly , he is shit, , well broly would be ok if he could at least control himself instead of going maximum power apeshit all the time

i wish they had at least mentioned cooler during RoF
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>>143116375
>You guys do realize this is their way of taking Goku out of the series to give the VA a break

HAHAHA
That is a laugh. Nice joke.
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>>143116375
>and is it really getting the ratings it needs to survive?
It has had good ratings since the start, but the first episode of the Trunks arc took it to only 0,2% behind One Piece. It was was the third tv anime most watched in Japan that week, losing only to Sazae and One Piece itself. Yeah, Super is going nowhere.
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>>143116286
>It was good since the beginning
Fuck no, the movie retellings sucked outside of the last episodes of Godku vs. Beerus which had pretty good animation.
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>>143116430
>every movie bad guy should be canon,
Nope they're all shit except for their designs.
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>>143116018
Dragonball Z is bad compared to most anime today. Super however is just a bad joke of that what once was, a parodie of Z at most. While Z had problems with pacing and dragged out shouting scenes Super manages to pull of much worse things
>the animation, god the animation oh god why
>completely SHITTING on the characteristics of some characters
>oh god have you seen the animation
>barely new characters, better recolor the old ones
>completely fuck up powerlevels, they never made much sense but now it got just weird
>completely alter the tone of the whole series, no imminent danger from eventual bad guys with Whis and Beerus baby sitting the earth

Long story short: It's a completely different show. It's best to watch while thinking of it as a parody
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>>143116396
XV2's gameplay looks like it's chasing the Tenkaichi audience, if nothing else.

Based on what they've shown so far though, I wouldn't buy it. XV1 was shitty. Combat wasn't fun, and the RPG elements get in the way of it feeling like a fighting game.
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>>143116375
>May as well, its all shit anyway.
He's talking about how that actually happened in Movie 7, you know, the Android 13 movie?

>You guys do realize this is their way of taking Goku out of the series to give the VA a break
What? That's insane. There's literally two Gokus now

>and is it really getting the ratings it needs to survive?
HA! It's top ten every week. Last week in particular was the highest in the series. Not to mention, due to amazon listings, the show is confirmed to run to at minimum 72 episodes with no signs of stopping
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>>143116430
>every movie bad guy should be canon
First of all, that's impossible, second of all no, they suck. Actually all the movies sucked except the second one, that was good, and BoG
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>>143114531
Only Z babies like this shit arc
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At this point they could have Goku and Vegeta fight Beerus' shit and they'd still make money. There is nothing good about this and they don't have to make it be good. Super is left to the new guys to draw
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>>143116396

I thought Xenoverse's basic gameplay was decent. The combo system is better than in Tenkaichi, but the tracking (if you aren't positioned correctly, your character might start whiffing attacks mid combo) and specials are generally inferior. It has a character creator and was the first game with a real attempt at an original story with new characters, although a lot of it still is just time traveling through the old sagas.

The main issue is that it had a really bad RNG (and RNG on top of RNG too - sometimes you have a chance to trigger special battles by fulfilling special conditions in another battle and those special battles only have a chance of giving some loot - so even fulfilling the condition, you still need to get tow RNG throws on your favor to get what you want sometimes)
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>>143116482
>barely new characters
At the very least, this is wrong. There is a fair amount of them by now
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>>143116482
> with Whis and Beerus baby sitting the earth
Except Beerus and Whis don't really care if earth survives, and will only keep Bulma around so she can make them food.

whis only turned back time to save earth that ONE time because he wanted to make a point to Goku.

Itsn ot like hes going to do it again and again
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>>143116546
You realise "Z babies" are all at least in their twenties while Super fetuses mostly still go to grade school right?
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>>143116319
He did, that's how Cell was made. I guess his lab was never blown up in Trunks' timeline so there's a chance it's still making stuff. Trunks knows where it is though and I doubt he just left it alone.
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>>143116286
This

i want to see if there are more freezie pops,maybe one of them could be a good guy Frost was a shit

i don't know maybe they could make kuriza canon
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>>143116611
this.
pretty much everyone i know that likes DBZ is 25+
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Reminder that Black is some kind of stupid looking shapeshifting android with springy gloved robot hands.
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>>143116430
>every movie bad guy should be canon

Hell no. The only canon movies are
Bardock Father of Goku (fuck Minus)
History of Trunks
Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!
Battle of Gods
Resurrection of 'F'

so only the good ones.
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>>143116211
If yu want to enjoy Super you'll have to turn your brain off. Otherwise it doens't work
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>>143116669
>Bardock Father of Goku (fuck Minus)
>History of Trunks
>Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!
Those aren't movies though, they are specials

>Resurrection of 'F'
This wasn't that good at all
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>>143116669
Broly and Cooler are both good enough to be canon, if we ignore that they dont' fit anywhere in the timeline.
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>>143116638
I don't think they'll involve Dr. Gero again. That's just bad taste.

>created androids
>created cell
>created black goku

that'd be 3 fucking arcs this guy would be responsible for.
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>>143116669
If it's animated it's not canon.
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Origina DB > Super > DBZ > Pile of Shit > GT.
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>>143116709
>Broly and Cooler are both good enough to be canon
No
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>>143116669
>Canon is a seal of quality.
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>>143115830

Super Dragon Goku and Muscle Goku when?
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>>143116705
>Those aren't movies though, they are specials
Same shit

>This wasn't that good at all
Yes it was

>>143116709
>Broly and Cooler are both good enough to be canon,
Nope.

>>143116715
>If it's animated it's not canon.
Nice headcanon
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wait what?you are saying there are kids who like dragon balls super?

i've been trying to make my little brother wacth it and he doesn't like it, kids nowdays only like to see gameplays on youtube

i bet all the non japanese adience is at least over 19

there is no such thing as a super fetus

only dragon ball fans and z babies
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>>143116718
nice b8
Dragoonball>Z>>Super>>>fanfics>GT
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>>143116738
Nigger if you think BoTG and RoF make the cut, so do those two.

Also, add the Janemba one to the list.
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>>143116740
That movie sucked apart from Veku, Goten and Trunks vs Hitler
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>>143116791
Super is better than DBZ because it takes itself less seriously. It is also way more funny.
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>>143116718
DBZ > DB > GT > Super
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>>143116791
>>143116718

DB > DBZ > > >GT > > > > > Super.

Objective fact.
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>>143116804
>Nigger if you think BoTG and RoF
No fuck off. Toriyama wrote the story for both those movies.
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>>143116835
>Super is better than DBZ because it takes itself less seriously. It is also way more funny
It is not funny at all, and not taking itself seriously by itself does not mean it is good.
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>>143116835
It being serious is why millions enjoyed it.
It's how it became famous.

When you take something like that and turn it into some comedy..then it becomes hard to care for anything that happens, aka making it shit.
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>>143116718
this guy gets it
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>>143116862
And? That doesn't make them good. Hell, Super proves beyond doubt Toriyama is quite capable of churning out garbage.

>>143116892
Super is not bad because it's less serious. Super is bad because everything about it is fucking terrible.
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>>143116566
Ok sorry I have phrased that wrong. They haven't introduced new "relevant" characters. When I saw the pictures of the fighters I was hyped as fuck. Then it turns out Monaka is basically Mr.Satan2, Cabba is some random scrub Sayjan, that fat yellow guy is fodder aswell and that recollored Freeza guy is basically just another Freeza just even fucking weaker. Machine guy was pretty based and I'll give you Hit too though I'm absolutely not fond of his ability. Hell I guess Toryjama felt like a genius while writing that. He really really shouldn't.

>>143116594
Yeah no you are completely wrong. If you really think earth will ever be in danger with these two guys being the strongest in town then you clearly haven't catched the tone Dragonball Super adapted in comparison to Z. When have you ever felt a dangerous, menacing vibe in this series? Not even fucking once. It's all about stuffing food into beerus samas holes, occasional jokes about blowing up the earth if it doesn't taste and Bulma shouting shit at him for threatening her saggy tits.
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>>143116840
>>143116852
>People actually think GT is somehow better
DB > DBZ > > > > > > > > > > Super = GT
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>mfw animefags pretend to like the first series better so people think they're patrician
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>>143116788
>wait what?you are saying there are kids who like dragon balls super?
The main audience in Japan is kids. It's the biggest demographic for Dragon Ball as a whole, especially now with DB Heroes being the biggest thing since god over there

>i bet all the non japanese adience is at least over 19
Who the fuck cares about the non-japanese audience right now?
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Can we just stop for a moment and realise that even if Trunks had attained Super Saiyan 2, he STILL would have been weaker than Super Perfect Cell.

Unless he's kept up training this entire fucking time, he wouldnt have even made it to SS3.

Which is still super inferior to Super Buu.

Which is super inferior to Ultimate Gohan.

Who would still be an ant compared to Goku and Vegeta in their base form now.

Literally what is the fucking point? This Black Goku faggot will be on Goku/Vegetas level obviously. He should be able to fucking decimate Trunks with a glare at this point.

We're talking the difference between fucking Dragonball Yamcha vs any Super Saiyan here.
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>>143116940
Better art, better animation, better character design, better music. Equally bad writing.

Yes, it's better. It's not good, but it's better.
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>>143116852
Nope.
Nobody remembers fights from DB.

But fucking Everyone.
I mean E v e r y o n e knows about Goku going Super Sayian.

All the games are based around it.
All the general discussion is based around it.

It objectively made more money than DB.
It had more reruns.

There's no reason to even consider DB being better aside from nostalgia.
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>>143116922
>And? That doesn't make them good.
It makes them canon retard unlike that Cooler and Broly shit. Also both movies are great.
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>>143116924
>When have you ever felt a dangerous, menacing vibe in this series
This guy?
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>>143116966
Did you miss the arc where Freeza came back and beat up Gohan?
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>>143116966
Then how did black manage to not turn him into paste in one blow? Kid Buu almost killed vegeta in 2 attacks, and vegeta was much stronger than Trunks ever got.
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>>143114531
I was thinking the same thing. Seems like the first arcs were just to introduce new concepts and characters. We got Super Saiyan god, goku and Vegeta using it outside of the ritual, and the other universe gods. Let the actual story proceed. Or at least what looks interesting

It's goten
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>>143116985
Just to be accurate here, you're talking about in America right?
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>>143116993
The bad art is hard to take serious.

He also looks like fucking goku and is smiling all the time. Kinda hard to get bad vibes from that.
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>>143116985
I'm gonna say you're trolling to spare you the judgement you deserve.
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>>143116985
>Nobody remembers fights from DB.
Speak for yourself faggot.
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>>143114752
>Th animation and drawing was still terrible
I need this meme to end. The old show was just as poorly drawn at times. You just couldn't tell when it was all at less than 480p and blurry as fuck.
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>>143117026
There is a reason that Dragon Ball Kai and nearly every videogame skips straight to Raditz.
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>>143116993
We know nothing of him yet. He could be a Cabba level jobber for all we know since it really isn't that big of a deal to shit on future Trunks. Though yes, I admit that he caught my interest. Lets see how he's getting shit on now.
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>>143117026
It being aired in America is what made the popularity explode, so yes.

It's a fact that when people think of Goku, they think of DBZ.
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The threads have gotten really shitty since this new arc started
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>>143117092
Dragon Ball threads have been shitty since before either of us were born. This is what happens when the adaptation massively surpasses the source material in popularity.
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>>143117090
>It being aired in America is what made the popularity explode,
Holy shit, you're an actual idiot aren't you?

No seriously, this is most fucking stupidest post I've ever read about DB this week. Do you even know anything about this franchise past what you watched as a child on Toonami?
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Dragon Ball (entire manga)>>>>DB anime=DB Kai>>Super>>>>DBZ anime>>>>>>>>>GT
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>>143114531
>evil Goku
>jobber Trunks
>shipping bullshit

U6 was more promising, and will probably end up the better arc
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>>143117113
No, these threads have always "sucked" but it felt like at least maybe a fair amount of people were at least from here. Ever since this arc started, it's been feeling like there's more crossboarders and full retard posters. For example, there was a Super thread that had a Spanish-sub stream as the OP. That hasn't happened since like the first episodes
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>>143117004
The same Frieza who got so strong after training because of his unbelievably stupid potential that he could have beat Goku and Vegeta if he had trained a little bit more, where Gohan for convenience reasons had become weaker than he was in the Cell games?

Yeah, and that made sense, as contrived as it was.

>>143117010
That's what I'm saying man, this guy absolutely has to be so much stronger than Trunks that it's retarded for him to not vaporize him by fucking flicking in his direction.

Trunks even tried to hold him off while not in Super Saiyan, which is even more illogical because that means he'd be 50 times weaker than he should be.
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>>143115476
I'll say that Gohan going SSJ2, Gohan killing cell and Goku going SSJ1 are probably much better moments but SSG Kaioken x10 was still pretty fucking high up there in great moments.
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>>143116993
im not that guy and i love dragon ball super


but black doesn't have a menacing vibe, im calling it right now, in the next episode goku or veget are going to beat the shit out of him and by the end of the episode he will say that he is sorry about the thing he did

he is probably going to say something like

>sorry mr, goku, i was just following order from the green kai, i don't even know what a sayajin is, you have great hair cut sir, please don't punch me
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>>143117148
>jobber Trunks
As opposed to when he isn't a jobber? Which is like ever since his first appearance?
>shipping bullshit.
Please. It's a relatively popular pairing and Toriyama made it. It's not like it's dominating the show or anything
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>>143117092
Too many shitposters like the GTfags around.
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>>143117117
>Still no argument
>Just insults
Alright you can stop posting now.
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>>143117148
>jobber
Retarded buzzword for retarded people.
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>>143117200
>Still no argument
There's no point in arguing with a Toonami kiddie is that insane enough to believe that DBZ airing in America is what made it become super popular. As if, you know, it wasn't already super popular to begin with both in its home and other countries before America
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>>143117145
The first anime was just as bad as Z, you just don't remember it.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/481921

Watch this fucking episode then readjust your list.
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>>143117117
stick around Super threads and you'll read a dumber one by tomorrow

these people genuinely enjoy this trash lol. it's worse than unironic Naruto threads
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>>143117288
>these people genuinely enjoy this trash lol.
But I do like this show (now). But that shit was just dumb
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>>143117173
>replying to bait
There is a reason I didn't rely to him.
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>>143115813
I'm waiting eagerly for Xenoverse 2.

It's going to be cooler.
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>>143117241
>There's no point in arguing
Stopped reading. Shoo

>>143117288
>complains about people enjoying trash yet still posts in this thread
>will most likely complain in the next thread when a new episode is released
???
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>>143117238
Do you have a better word for "guy that always loses"?
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>>143117435
>Stopped reading. Shoo
My argument is that Dragon Ball was popular for years before it aired in Eagleland, especially in it's home country where DB was the most popular manga ever until One Piece. And it aired in multiple countries before it aired in America as well. You'd have to think Funimation was the center of the world to think that America was why DB became popular especially since it didn't even air over here until years after GT had finished in Japan
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I will say this, it's cool to have a new DBZ episode every week and have no idea what's happening next. It's something that America never experienced since it took 10 years to adapt a series that ended a decade earlier and had been spoiled. It's the first time that I can enjoy a dbz plot and have no idea what's going to happen next.
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>>143116924
>When have you ever felt a dangerous, menacing vibe in this series?

Only King Piccolo and Super Buu.
Cell was a retard and Frieza was just some boring sadist.
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>>143115604
I can't believe i can't wait for a new DBS episode.
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>>143115606
all the more reason to enjoy it
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>>143117467
>retard doesn't even know what job means
>yet still uses it
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>>143117179
>you have great hair cut sir, please don't punch me
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>Black Goku can time travel just from his sheer power

What the fuck? Something tells me this arc will be full of plot holes
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>>143117525
I'd prefer Mai and Future Trunks to remain turbovirgins.
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>>143117524
Neither can I. At the beginning I disliked it for the animation. But then it started growing on me. Since Hit vs. Goku I've been feeling like the wait was well worth it.
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>>143117605
>Black Goku can time travel just from his sheer power
What? He clearly does it with that ring in the preview.
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>>143117605
>plot holes
>in DB

Oh my god!
If they allow a plot hole in the story it will be the end of all of us! NOOOOOOOO.
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>>143117524
I'm excited for a new episode, but it's purely for the plot, as shitty as that seems.

I still hate the art/animation. They shouldn't have made Super canon if their badget couldn't compete with the previous series.
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It would be interesting if Black Goku was actually a Goku from another Universe, who grew up with Goku's original sinister personality, but that's not going to happen.

It's most likely something else taking the form of Goku, which is stupid as shit. (intruducing characters that look like Goku just because)
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>>143117605
Do you know what plot hole means? That's like saying that Darth Vader being Luke's father is a plot hole because Obi-Wan said he was dead in the first movie.
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>>143117884
Or Goku being controller by a God/Demon who liked his power.
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Why is goku's japanese voice such fucking shit, literally the only reason why I don't watch this....
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>>143117948
Controlled, fuck.
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>>143117884
That original idea you have is literally Tullece
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>>143117968
Goku's VA is literally perfect and above any criticism, neophyte. She is a heavenly treasure of anime.
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>>143118009
And Turles was fucking retarded even for a movie only villain.
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>>143116966
Thats exactly what i was thinking, by the end of the Cell Arc Trunks was weaker than Perfect Cell. Now it looks like Trunks can't go to Super Saiyan 2 since he didn't showed ant sparkles or big hair. That means that even in Super Saiyan 1 he could be a bit stronger than Perfect Cell but if Black Goku can't fight equally against Goku and Vegeta then that means he is in Super Saiyan Blue level of power or maybe even stronger, If that is true then how the fuck was Trunks able to fright him. That guy should have killed him with just the touch of his finger. Thats why like i said before if you want to watch Super you have to turn your brain off because the powerlevel bullshit is off teh charts and even worse than before and will probably increase.
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>>143117968
>>143118064
I don't like Goku and his a family having a granny voice but she's objectively talented for how different she makes them sound. Her Black Goku sounds completely different from hick vanilla Goku.
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I know Dragon Ball Super is Plothole turn into a show. But why did Bulma asked Kid Trunks if the guy inside the spaceship had Blue hair? Trunks always had purple hair in Z. king Tory
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Given how overpowered of a species Saiyans are you have to wonder why the main characters never tried reviving and redeeming and recruiting more.

Nappa was actually a nicer fucking guy than Vegeta in their first appearance.

And maybe even Tarble could become useful if they powerleveled him.
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>>143118121
Maybe Black Goku was toying with him.

Though you have to wonder why Black Goku even bothered defending against Trunks' attacks when he probably could've just no-selled them.
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>>143114696
>not TrunxMai
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>>143118196
Jesus, people, why are you still focusing on this shit? It's a redesign.
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>>143118064
She's objectively a shit option for adult male characters.
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>>143117690

How will they ever be able to repopulate the earth?

Besides, we know that there will eventually be a Vegeta jr, so Trunks is going to have kids at some point. Either that or Bra, and that is less convincing.
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>>143118121
arguably if you care so much about powerlevel shit you didn't have much of a brain to begin with
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nah
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>>143117884
There have been absolutely no identical characters from different universes so far. Also doesn't explain the dark aura and calling saiyans like he wasn't one. It's just not Goku talking.
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>>143115604
This, great OST, the art and animation is improving a bit. So many greats scenes two episodes in and next episode might have Black vs Goku already.
>>>/wsg/1143893
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>>143118325
>we know that there will eventually be a Vegeta jr
GT is not canon.
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>>143118121
You see, this is exactly the kind of stuff that nobody cares about
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>>143118248
Yeah i thought the same maybe he was just playing but still. Trunks shouldn't have been able to take that energy beam and less 8 or more of them.
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I don't remember, weren't Pilaf, Mai and Shu in the original Dragonball? How the fuck are they still the same age in Super?
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>>143118325
>How will they ever be able to repopulate the earth?

Super Dragon Balls.
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>>143118473
They were older in Dragon Ball. They wished to be younger to shenron.
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>>143118473
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>>143118409
>energy beam
It's literally some shit ki shots and arguably Black didn't want to kill him immediately.
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>>143117525
>>143117690
Nah.
If he actually manages to save F Mai somehow.
than he deserves to take that purity away
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>>143114531
>super saiyan form gets BTFO by a base form goku
good god
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>>143118196
Because Sonic's arms are blue, Chris.
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>>143117179
Why do people still think Green Kai will be a villain? He just looks like a tall green Eastern Supreme Kai
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>>143118601
Exactly. Black wants him to suffer.
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>>143118657
He's falling like a cast out angel followed by black feathers.
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>>143118637

TRUNK'S HAIR IS NOT BLUE, AND IT SERIOUSLY CAUSE SENSORY OVERLOADS IN ME!!! TOEI NEEDS TO RECALL EVERYTHING DRAGON BALL SUPER AND CHANGE TRUNK'S HAIR COLOUR BACK IMMEDIATELY!!!
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>>143118473
Watch BoG
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>>143117467
Goy?
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>>143118357
>So many greats scenes two episodes
More than GT had with 64 episodes.
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>>143114531
>its a destroy future trunks happiness and turn him into a more miserable arc
literally why
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>>143118009
Original Idea? I was saying it would be stupid exactly because of what they did with turtles.

"Oh hey, here is a character that looks like Goku, no reason, just because."
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>>143118613
No. F Mai won't be revived. Same goes for F Bulma and the rest of the people in F Earth. F Trunks will have to live alone in the F Earth with that cat.
Kid Mai will die as well, to stop any version of Trunks from possibly getting with her.
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>masenko
it has been too long.
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>>143118862
F Trunks x Suffering is the OTP.

>>143118871
IIRC I remember the reason was something about low class saiyans having similar looks. It was retarded like that.
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>>143118694
Thy could just be Black knocking Zamasu back or something. Kaioshin aren't usually villains, he looks more like the Supreme Kai to Black Goku's Majin Buu.

If he does end up being a villain he might be sympathetic, which isn't usually something ascribed to Dragon Ball villains.
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>>143118862
because he must suffer
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I wish the manga wasnt so far behind.
At least with the translations.
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>>143118862
YOU WANTED THINGS TO GET SERIOUS

YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED

AND ALL IT TOOK WAS DESTROYING TRUNKS' HAPPINESS
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>>143118917
I was like wuuuuuut then I remember who trained future Trunks. Now Piccolo's legacy is being Pan's babysitter. But he's an awesome babysitter.
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>>143118985
Now that F Mai is dead it is only fair they kill Kid Mai as well, right?
It wouldn't be fair to allow one version of Trunks to have Mai, both of them must be deprived of her. Bonus points if Kid Mai dies in a similar way to F Mai, with Kid Trunks watching.
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>>143119044
>killing Mai again
That's too much you sick fuck.
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>>143118862
>having to witness best girls die
literally suffering. Cant blame him that PTSD
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>>143118862
the real tragedy here is that he lost his beautiful gains.
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>>143119044
Future Trunks will marry Chronoa.
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>>143119044
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>>143116669
>Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!
>Good

Kill you self.
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>>143119119
Please, Time Loli is more likely to fuck Black at this point.
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>>143119151
Rude!
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>>143119091
It is not.
Think about it, as they are right now the Pilaf Gang might just make it into heaven.
She will die a virgin too. Her purity will be preserved.
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>>143118862
you guys asked for it.
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>>143119119
This is best case scenario. Future Trunks is a man, he needs someone who is actually experienced in pleasing men.
Mai can only give him "the treatment" at best, that is hardly satisfying for a man.
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>>143119151
>you self.
>yourself

Fuck off retard.
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>>143119118
Can't blame him here. You cannot keep your gains when all you have to eat for months is dog food.
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>there are people who unironically like Super over DBZ
>there are people who think it is legitimately funny
>there are people who don't skip the "comedy" with pilaf and the down syndrome gang to just get to the serious parts

Who are they and how can I kill them
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So I dropped this show when I realized it was mostly going to be the movies redone. Now that it looks like its interesting I want to pick it back up, where should I start?
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Only anime i prefer english dub. COME ON FUNIMATION FFS I SKIPPED ALL OF IT SO FAR BUT IM BACK IN BECAUSE THIS ARC IS FUCKING GOOD
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>>143119262
Cat food
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>>143119279
The funny parts are the best part of Super, seriously.
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>>143119279
Beerus is legit gunny but i agree the pilaf shit was cancer in Dragonball its cancer now
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>>143119309
this is the problem
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>>143118917
>masenko
Only wall level Dc
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>>143119279
Someone sounds like they have a baby dik. I get you don't even have pubes, Brian
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I hope we get future Trunks x loli Mai
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>>143119295
Super is a chore for me to watch but once it gets the Latino Dub i will be incredible happy
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>>143119279
>disliking Super
>actually thinks DBZ is better
>probably thinks GT is a better series
>probably whines about Gohan as well
>wants to kill people who disagree with him

Autistic piece of shit.
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>>143119279
>Vegeta's face: what am I doing with my life?
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>>143119118
>tfw those gains will never be recovered because of the artstyle
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>>143119372
>Mario Castaneda wanting to play Goku again
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>>143119368
The only loli for Future Trunks is the Supreme Kai of Time.
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>>143119407
I never want to see Super Broly because the art style will ruin him
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>>143119397
>Autistic piece of shit
>Ironically saying Super is better than Z.
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>>143119118

Toriyama will pay. Dearly.
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>>143114531
>>143118121
>>143118409
>>143118917
Anyone have gifs of the U6 arc like of Hit or Cabba?
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>>143119475
He also cut his hair. His super saiyan hair looked cool when long.
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>>143119452
>Brolyfags riot after this
Thanks, you gave me a reason to want Broly in Super.
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>>143119472
>muh kill yourself

>>>/v/

Autism goes there, not here.
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>>143119475
Nope, enjoy your SUFFERING
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>>143119364
>>143119397
Post your info guys. I'm sorry you have to die before you lost your virginity but no one will care for two children show watching losers.
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>>143119408
>>Mario Castaneda wanting to play Goku again
Didn't you heard. The original voices are coming back in Super
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>>143119523
rude
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>>143119516
I agree. especially with the tied one.
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>>143119580
Holy shit, they must have made a deal with Mr. Satan.
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>>143119408
Dude probably gets very well paid for it.
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>>143119523
This, fuck Brolyfags.
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>>143119523

I want pic related to happen, /a/
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>>143119621
Last time I heard the vas were angry because they were getting paid peanuts hence we got that dub for Kai.
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>>143119578
Ow the edge.
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>>143119600
They'd probably fuck it up anyway, like the hack frauds they are.
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>>143119644
Broly looks a lot like All Might in a suit
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>>143119541
You should know the place beforehand to say that. Go cry somewhere else, faggot.
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