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Gorgeous, delicious, Deculture!
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>>143112966
i want to bury my face in mirage's tits
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Did Freyja already lose? This episode pretty much killed all her chances.
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>>143113115
Oh boy, I'd love to see you justify this one
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I still don't know what "deculture" is.
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>>143113180
Go watch all robotech seasons now nub
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>>143112361
>Windermerean rules of inheritance
Didn't the prequel manga state that joining the arial knights means you give up on your family and become family with the other knights (ergo give up your claim to the throne?)
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>>143113180
It originally was like "MY GOD" but now it's just like a cool slang word
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If you think the dub for Clash of the Bionoids was bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Is2Ftk1BMw
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NOT ENOUGH SHINPI

WE WANT MORE SHINPI

SHINPI IS LOVE

SHINPI IS LIFE
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Who Kaname here?
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>>143113103
She's too good for Delta
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>>143114212
t. MesaMesa
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>>143114151
kikaseteageru, megami no uta wo
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>>143114297
Kek. Sheryl wouldn't even pass Walkure's audition.
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>>143114474
Sheryl would just make Mikumo her bitch tbqh.
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Is Mikumo breaking free from a pile of rubble using the POWER of MUSIC the single greatest thing that has happened in anime in 2016?
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>>143114515
Mikumo is her spiritual heir/clone so that would be self-rape.
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>>143113417
>not the british dub
that piece of shit was my introduction to macross
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>>143114582
> Self-rape
That's just rough masturbation, anon.
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>>143114474
Of course she would. There's some supplemental material that says a few human families are capable of producing bio foldwaves, and Mayan priestesses are among them. Sheryl is a Nome, so she's been able to produce bio foldwaves from birth.

On top of that, she gets a minor boost from her earring and a major boost from Vajra bacteria.
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>>143114582
Wow, this art mixture between Mikumo and Sheryl is amazing.
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So basically this show is: men are the strong warriors and women are the "singers" who support them from safety? Nice one Japan
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>>143114565
Maybe she'll top it when she reveals what her mysterious nature is all about. The power of Protoculture and all that, since she seems well versed.
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>>143114515
Implying Sheryl is shinpi enough to outperform Mikumo.
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>>143114695
Gundam is the same. Men pilot the robots and women are the captains or politicians who support them from safety.
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>>143114656
Alto makes Sheryl improve her pitch every night.
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>>143114734
>Alto being even remotely aggressive
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>>143114725
I get that but would it have killed them to add one good female pilot to the cast who isn't defined by her inferiority complex?
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Why would anyone hire Ernest if he loses 100 out of 100 battles?
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>>143114656
Incorrect. Sheryl wasn't able to produce fold waves naturally. She was just able to produce them through the help of her fold quartz, like Hayate.
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>>143114786
Because it means he has experience of at least 100 battles.
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>>143114786
>In the end, we've lost this battle too. The victory belongs to those peasants, not to us.
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>>143114773
> Female pilots
Walkure is already the most powerful fighting force by FAR. The rest of the girls are trash.
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>>143114807
She probably couldn't produce waves strong enough to communicate with Varja. Even Kaname, Makina and Reian use fold amplifiers just like Sheryl did.
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>>143114786

He makes things interesting so it wouldn't be a one sided fight.
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>>143114656
I'm not saying Sheryl can't produce fold waves but not having enough fold receptor factor to emit the levels required to suppress Var. The V-type virus only boosts her range immensely since she's connected to the Vajra network. While fold quartz just provides regular amplification boost.
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>>143113214
No, it's more like 'you should think of everyone here as your new family', but that's all. Keith renouncing to being the heir is unrelated.
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>>143114876
I think they can do better. Since we know Windermerians are all at peak human capacity, I'm sure if Freyja wants to, she can become an ace pilot like Keith and do both singing and dogfighting at the same time.
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>>143114951
> Splitting concentration in a dogfight
> Splitting concentration in singing
It's like you have no idea how anything works.
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>>143114656
>>143114934
Does Jesus Basara need all those things to end the war?
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>>143114999
If Hayate can dance while dogfighting, then I can see no reason why Freyja, with her enhance abilities, can't do the same.
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>>143114760
Ok, Sheryl uses Alto to improve her pitch every night.

Happy now, fendomfag?
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>>143115059
Fold waves are stupid
LISTEN TO MY SONG
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Macross Delta Threads on /a/

Shippings wars between Freyja/Mirage - 30%
Mikumo - 30%
News Disscusions - 10%
Everything else 30%
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>>143114212
Count me in
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>>143114786
It's just an idiom, idiot. Ernest was always siding with the underdog but that doesn't mean he's a loser in combat.
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>>143115059
Maybe if he gets assraped by a space whale. His voice pitch will definitely much higher.
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>>143115163
She almost looks happy in the bottom left.
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>>143113199
>Robotech
Go away Harmony Gold
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>>143114865
is that a seven samurai quote
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>>143115059
For his time period and the enimies he faced no. However for the Vajra and Var syndrome he wouldn't be able to do much because I doubt Anima Spiritia would affect these enemies.
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>>143114786
Because he came at a cheap price for the filthy subhumans.
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>>143114695
>and women are the "singers" who support them from safety?
>support them from safety
Actually no. Unless they're in space
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Are we able to rank how skilled either Messer or Kieth is? How can we compare them to other pilots from the series before them?

Kieth did something inhuman when he was able to precisely target Messer's heart. Does that count? Can tiny details like that be used to account for pilot skills? What have other pilots done to be ranked high on the charts etc?
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>>143115215
That's because she's reminiscing her fond memories of Messer.
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>>143115163
disgusting cake
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>>143115246
Yep. It was the first thing I thought of the moment they said he lost every single battle.
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Predictions for next episode?

I think Mikumo is going to use the SECRET of the RUINS to fight the Protowhale
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>>143115377
Needs to be fixed with more suffering.
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>>143115149
Frontier superiority advocates - 10% at least
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>>143115415
Any other miserable Kaname screenshots other than from episode 10 and 11?
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>>143115163
The old hag of doom is death.
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>>143115439
>Frontier superiority
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So who do we think Lady M is?
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>>143115439
Sheryl is unbeatable but Delta as a whole isn't finished yet, not even half.
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>>143115458
Maybe not miserable besides the scenes related to Messer. She usually looks downcast in any scene with Arad because it's serious business.
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>>143115626
Unbeatable in what ? Sheer sluttyness ? Looking like a man ?

Come on /a/
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>>143114582
Wait, who's that? My dick is confused.
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>yfw Macross Elysion launch
hyped as fucked
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>>143115718
in her Perfection ofc
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>>143115620
I think we can rule out Misa and Minmay just because the NUNS guy wouldn't have made that snide remark about letting Misa or Minmay save face -- NUNS should still be in awe of Misa and Minmay fifty years later.

That leaves Milia, Mylene, Miranda, a few more Jenius daughters, Myung, and literally any new or returning character who might be going by a name like "Lady Macross" or "Lady Music" that shortens to "Lady M."
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>>143115718
>Sheryl gave her V to the man she loves and will marry someday
>Kaname gave her V to bald fat producers
Sheryl is the purest.
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>>143115718
Motherhood
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Something is very fishy and by the hints Roid are dropping and the mysteries of Mikumo, I have a theory Delta will connect the other series.

1) Minmay is missing in space. The last entry of her diary indicated that the ship was approaching a black hole that she thought was another universe.

2) Basara leaves the galaxy with Sivil, and like Minmay, is never heard from again.

3) Kawamori was the writer of Sheryl's manga. The manga explained how she found Alto after the events of the movie. Sheryl, Alto, and Ranka are also lost on some sort of planet.

What's even weirder is the fact that the place Sheryl and Ranka were missing, they were being communicated to through Minmay and the girl from Zero
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>>143116057
1) Minmay meant she was about to lose her anal virginity.

2) This is actually possible and related to Mikumo.

3) Alto came back inside the meteor.
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>>143116057

i haven't heard about any of this. seems like some anon lied to you.
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>>143115718
Ass
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>>143115923
>Comparing Sheryl to the old hag
Are you fucking serious? Not even delta supporters like the old hag.

Fight fair and square to Mikumo who's clearly superior compared to Sheryl.
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SPEAKER POD GAMMA WHEN
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>>143112966
pic ruined by the middle aged traitor
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>>143115620
Lady Miho Miho.
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>>143116208
Mikumo is flavor of the week yet. She needs to transcend.
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>>143116201
Slut
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>>143116057
I'm pretty sure this was all covered in the Macross 30 game from what I've heard.
They all ended up on some weird planet.

Also > Sheryl, Alto, and Ranka are also lost on some sort of planet.
damn that sucks wish I didn't know this
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>>143116057
>>143116145

1. Sheryl Manga, Author Kawamori. Read the last chapter http://www.mangareader.net/sheryl-kiss-in-the-galaxy

2. Basra leaving the galaxy with Sivil, the last episode of Macross 7.

3. According to the "official" Macross chronology, the SDF-2 Megaroad-01 fleet vanished four years later while traveling near the center of the galaxy during the new expedition (in July 2016 A.D.) and was never heard from again. Lynn Minmay was among the missing. This was elaborated in her diary, but I can't find the link right now.
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>>143116481
How did they get her diary when the entire ship was lost?
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>>143116220
They honestly need to watch the dubs because half the things they say are so inaccurate. Sometimes I wonder if they have problems interpreting what's actually going on.
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>>143116599
Ask Kawamori.
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>>143116057
Basara released a new album with Fire Bomber in 2060, that's 7 years before Delta. He's wandering the galaxy doing Basara things but he has mantained contact with his friends.
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>>143114786
It seems the only ones competent are the idols and Messer. No wonder Mikumo was worried as fuck after Messer.
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>>143116057
3. Minmay DOES appear in the Sheryl manga with Sara. She's like a Huge Goddess Newtype Ghost that helps Sheryl to power up.
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>>143117411
I forgot to add, they are as young as when they disappeared, so they are either dead or transcended to another plane of existence. Just them. Hikaru, Misa and Shin seem to be gone.
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>>143117411
>>143117489
This further supports the theory that towards the end of the series Freyja and Mikumo will transcend themselves and become something more.
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>>143116057
>Sheryl and Alto are lost
the fact that the Quarter shows up at the end would imply otherwise
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>>143117597
We Acchan now.
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>>143116057
>>143117411
Mikumo is understands the burden the power of the Wing Song is on the singer. She even states that she knows better than anyone.

Mikumo is suffering from the same problem as Heinz. It's safe to assume that the songs she sings takes a massive toll on her health.

Kaname had already hinted this as well as they are hoping they can find someone, to help lessen that burden, however Freyja's rune will also run out like Heinz.

The only option is for both to transcend and become a legacy to the Macross Universe.
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>>143117878
>>143117597
It'll be Heinz and Mikumo. Keith will get to rule his people which he didn't want to do. Freyja will stay as leader of Walkure.
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>>143116057
>explained how she found Alto
Different from the movies?
>Ranka
Why the hell was she there
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>>143114417

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFeZMQbiWfk

20 minute mark
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>>143116057
>>143116481
>>143117411
>>143117489
Remember though, even the Sheryl manga is a "historical" retelling in the Macross Universe and not actually what happened.
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>>143117878
>Mikumo is suffering from the same problem as Heinz.
That's merely speculation. Just because she claims she knows best doesn't mean her singing causes a toll on her like it does with Heinz. They needed Freyja to stabilize her fold receptors because the Var has become more frequent and the effects have been increasing.
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Lets talk about best girl, /a/.
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>>143116481
>Ranka, you and I
What was Brera going to say?
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>>143118093
I'm dying. Whose VA did Mikumo's line? Was that Hayate? They need to make a scene like this in the episode. With Hayate mimicking Kumo and kumo looks at him like wtf
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>>143118322
Kawamori genuinely wanted to relive AKB0048 through Freyja and Shinpi.
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How do you pronounce NUNS? Do you spell it out? Or do you say it like the christian nuns?
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>>143116481
That last chapter was something
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>>143118570
Say it like they say it on the show
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>>143115373
You have kills with other characters, In the plus ovas you can see how Isamu shoots, Alto is different since his valk is made to fight Vajra and no idea about the others the Valkyries change to much
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>>143116057
>What's even weirder is the fact that the place Sheryl and Ranka were missing, they were being communicated to through Minmay and the girl from Zero

what?
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>>143119495
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>>143116057
This idol foce nonsense is getting out of hand
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>>143119796
yes I just saw it.. I remember reading this but not about that
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>>143119825
Please elaborate.
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>>143113103
When another character died in delta, we might see her grave
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>>143115718
In being a Mary sue
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>>143114999
Yeah about that...
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>>143119796
>Minmay and Sara think Alto and Sheryl are OTP and Sheryl is their successor

How can Ranka compete?
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Robotech.
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>>143118836
So brera lives in this manga? Cool, best boy for best girl.
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>>143114807
Cause what Galaxy was after is Zero Time Lag Fold Waves. The one Vajra use. V-type allows.
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>>143120264
Yes, he also lives in the tv series.

Ranka/Brera is lay on thick in the manga. Ranka falls out love with Alto very early. There's little rivalry between Sheryl and Ranka who are just waiting for Alto and Brera respectively. Since it's shoujo it's fine to have incest implications.

Kawamori really should have stuck with his original idea of Brera as Ranka's childhood friend and eventually ended up with her, if he was going to make her marry someone else anyway.
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>>143114885
She could in the movie.
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>>143120213
It's sheryls manga, it exists to suck her dick.
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>>143119956
It's like the force but with idols
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>>143120264
He's fine.
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>>143119796
In the end Ranka never mattered... not a single bit.
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>>143120531
>she's really crying
I always wondered why/how they force her to do that for a cover album?
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>>143120569
Eye drops.
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>>143120386
In a way, but gives the majority of Rankafags what they wanted too: Brera shipping. Rankafags in Japan were more into Brera/Ranka than Ranka/Alto hilariously and the manga pandered hard to them.
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>>143120433
You don't know what you're talking about. Fold Waves don't work anything like the Force.
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>>143116481
>2. Basra leaving the galaxy with Sivil, the last episode of Macross 7.
Sivil left with the rest of the Protodevlin. Basara stayed. Later Basara filled with wanderlust left Macross 7 fleet to explore the galaxy ending up on Zola before going off again.
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>>143120631
Anime always teases with incest but they actually do it over there ??
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>>143120531
Ranka has her scene with Brera. They are unsubtly dating. Look at her compare her relationship with him with Sheryl's for Alto. Klan knows it.

It'a timeline all survived and have their boyfriends and there's no drama.
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>>143120758
See >>143120759

They talk about what to give your boyfriend in a birthday, and Ranka says what she made for Brera. Later Klan speaks about Michel. To give tips to Alto.

One of the scenes features Ranka and Sheryl waiting in wedding gowns for Brera and Alto. Zero fucks.
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I felt the flag. Either someone's dying, or Ragna is going to be left with a brand new smoldering asshole just like Windermere
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>>143120758
It's shoujo anon. Before otaku got a fetish, incest between brother and sister was very common in shoujo.
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>>143120844
*give tips to Sheryl
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>>143120860
>idol
>dying

Ragna is going to get invaded but the Ragna people will diffuse the bomb and Elysion will retreat to space.
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>>143119825
>>143120433
>>143119796
This is what Freyja and Mikumo are being set up for. Their transcendence into Macross legacy. The secrets of the protoculture. Mikumo is the key, and Freyja will be her vessel.
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>>143120759
Ranka x Brera >>> Ranka alone, a hundred times.

And I'm a Sherylfag.
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>>143121086
Nice try Rankafag, you're not fooling anyone here
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>>143120860
I hope Reina dies. She's useless and holds back Makina's potential.
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>>143120758
I don't think they are blood related. Brera wanted to tell Ranka something and Ranka is switching back and forth between brother and Brera. Besides a plot point was Alto and Brera losing the memory of the one they loved (romantically): Brera forgot Ranka and Alto Sheryl. Ranka and Sheryl got their memory back and protected them.

It was cheesy as fuck but the four of them felt stronger together than in the movies and show where Brera was the odd one out.
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>>143121135
>rankafag
ahahahaa boy you are soo wrong
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>>143120987
>pretending that any idols other than Mikumo and Frejya matter in the long run
Honestly no reason that Green couldn't die, Kaname gets a pass now that she has to live on suffering.
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>>143121086
Don't forget Klan and Michel.

After the movie and the tv show, this ending felt good. Kawamori left it for last.
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>>143121141
What is Makina's potential? Don't forget Reirei was number 9 on newtype. She is the 3rd most popular in Walkure.
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So when can we expect Macro-Ernest fucking shit up?
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>>143121267
Yup. Can't wait until Delta makes all the connections with >>143116057
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>>143121277
Dfc-fags only. Nobody cares about about Reina in or out universe.
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>>143121197
They are idols, they all matter because their job as Macross is still airing is to sell concert tickets

It's not a foreign concept in idols to have one or two more prominent chicks
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>>143121277
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>>143120758
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>>143121432
I doubt they'd see any major loss from her death. And its not like they wouldn't still have her show up for the concerts. Symphogay had Kanade's VA at their concerts, and she was kill in the very first episode.
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>>143120531
She does matter. Ranka dies shielding Sheryl and Brera dies trying to protect Ranka. Vajra Queen returns to to life but threatens to take them away, Sheryl offers herself and Alto says he'll go along with her.

They all passed the test of remembering love. And Vajra came to understand human emotion through those four. Ranka and Sheryl told off the Vajra Queen for stealing their men. It was glorious. They told Brera and Alto to back off that they'll be protecting them now.
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>>143121539
No, some like the tomboy look of that idol. They're not going to kill off green, since green and pink have some kind of lesbo vibe that probably is useful to certain fans as well.

Sure, they're side characters, but they're still useful for some revenue.
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>>143121277
>What is Makina's potential?
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Why does Kawamori even makes love triangles when he prefers OTP? His interview in Kiss in the Galaxy 4 make clear he would have wanted BreraxRanka and AltoxSheryl since the beginning, and called Alto and Ranka a brother/sister relationship (even if Brera is her brother, but apparently wasn't meant to be first?).

It's annoying because he half asses those triangles and strings a girl along.
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>>143121828
From what I've heard he didn't even want one this time, but the higher ups forced it on him since its a main draw of the series at this point.
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>>143121828
OTPs are boring

Non-triangles are also boring

Ever noticed how the worst Macross shows don't have a triangle? It is no coincidence
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>>143121940
Zero and Plus had triangles.
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>Mirage finally has a personality
Well, that was an enjoyable episode.
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>>143122122
She's drawing the red line and Freyja got exposed as fuck, she's taking her man.
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>>143112966
I know that's not an elf, but I must love
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>>143121940
>the worst Macross shows don't have a triangle
>shows
Bullshit, name two that didn't have a triangle. Actually name one, because if you're talking about Macross 2 I honestly don't remember anything about it anymore.
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>>143122122
Did she challenging Freyja?
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>>143122281
I doubt this is what he's talking about, but tecnically SDF was a love pentagon if you include Kaifun, Plus had 5 people (main trio, Sharon and that chick Isamu was fucking) and 7 was Basara's harem.
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>>143122514
Staking her claim
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>>143122514
No, I think she wants to be like she is. That's why she angsts a lot because she cannot put her heart in what she does like Freyja does.
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>>143122514
She glared at her and went away without saying a word to her... so fucking rude, even if you're jelly as fuck you should act more mature.
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>>143120759
> Pineapple cake
Ranka what are you doing
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>>143120198
Not fair.
He's basically space Jesus.
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>>143120156
Nice...

here's your ((you))
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>>143122972
She's genre savvy that the manga ended and there's no more war or battles and she's in a comfy sol manga (she died once, but she got better).

Brera is hinted to be adopted here. Afterwards, Ranka calls him Brera and sometimes slips oniisan but looks like he's not related to her.
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Calling it now, by the end of the series everyone will be loving Mirage and claiming Freyja is worst girl like Ranka.

And this is coming from a Frejyag...
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>>143123805
Mirage already won before the show began.
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>>143123805
Why you even compare them? Mirage isn't pushed for merch as Sheryl and Ranka did. They can't ruin Freyja because she's their popular breakout character that sells shit.
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>>143123867
>Mirage isn't pushed for merch
gr8 b8 m8
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>>143123805
Sheryl was the fan favorite since the beginning (always topped Newtype polls), as is Freyja. You're delusional to compare them. Mirage gets shafted because she's not necessary in terms of sales as Mikumo or the Walkure are.
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Freyja and Hayate are perfect together and deserve to spend the rest of their (Freyja's) life together.

But I also want Mirage to be happy too... Can Kawamori pull off a happy ending to the triangle?
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>>143123897
>Newtype polls dictate winners
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>>143123886
She's not an idol, dumbass. The ones that get the most merchandising are Freyja and Mikumo. Mirage is added when the guys are added (Hayate and some Knights). Otherwise it's dominated by Walkure.
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>>143115269
>I doubt Anima Spiritia would affect these enemies

I get the feeling that Anima Spirita/Song Energy is very closely related to Bio Fold waves, if not one and the same phenomenon.
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>>143123805
They have to make Freyja likable to sell the album.
Also
>...
Stop using this shit.
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>>143123805
Honestly Freyja and Hayate are above the petty love triangle. Only Mirage and miragefags are obsessing the love triangle. This is war, and Hayate has no time for that. Freyja will also outgrow Hayate and accept her fate as a transcendent figure in Macross history.
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>>143123947
Funny how Freyjafags are the only ones who don't want a triangle...
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>>143123805
>Calling it now, by the end of the series everyone will be loving Mirage and claiming Freyja is worst girl like Ranka.
I am just amazed how quickly Ranka fell from popularity. And how the voice actress and her vocaloid just dropped off the face of the Earth.

>>143123946
>They have to make Freyja likable to sell the album.
Well I give them props for that. Too many anime females are given annoying personalities, to actually have her be likeable is far less common than you think.
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>>143123947
I see them as soulmates but I don't think it's romantic. They have such perfect understand of each other and their interaction is always engaging.
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>>143123946
Ranka still sold albums despite being kicked around every episode.
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>>143123929
They are related, but they are polar opposites. Anima Spirita are fold waves in another dimension for the protodeviln. He was special because he was able to produce it, especially at high amounts.
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>>143123994
She really didn't when compared to Sheryl though, or Walkure desu.
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From what Kawamori said about Freyja in the interview that the anon posted back then, she's never going to be worst girl. She's meant to be a GAR idol who risks her life in the battlefield and always lives the fullest. Someone who is top notch proactive.

Ranka was annoying because she was indecisive and reactive. Not too different from Mirage, only even more immature and spoiled.
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>>143123994
Ranka was always in the shadow of Sheryl and Sheryl had more albums. Freyja is the main heroine and an idol.

Mirage isn't even an idol or the main heroine. She's never going to get preferential treatment when Kawamori is pushing Freyja as the face of Delta. This doesn't mean she'll "win" the triangle. Minmay didn't.
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>>143123969
Where is the triangle though? So far the only person we know who definetly likes someone is Freyja. Episode 9 made those feelings clear. Mirage on the other hand, we can't freaking tell. It's too ambiguous and can be interpreted in anyway until solid proof is given. This is a faint triangle, nobody will win.

Honestly how the triangle is going to end is with Freyja being bigger than what she is now, and Mirage getting over her legacy left by her grandparents and moving on without Hayate. Dick isn't the answer for everything. That's why it's faint.
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>>143124025
Walkure wouldn't even top Ranka's Oricon charts.
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>https://twitter.com/macrossD

Look who is the top of the Delta twitter.
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>>143124114
The highest any of Ranka's solo singles on Oricon, without Sheryl backing her was number 5. While Walkure reached 3. I wouldn't even be surprised if Walkure's sales were also higher and it hasn't even been two months yet.
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>>143123886
Are you saying that they are pulling their guns with Mirage and not Freyja and Walkure?
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>>143123886
Huh?
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>>143124217
>While Walkure reached 3
Didn't they get a 1?
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Anyone else not liking the idol costumes much?
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>>143124313
Daily, not monthly.
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>>143124237
>a fig that everyone on the bottom left will eventually get
>forgets the fact that half of Macross merchandise are Bandai toys which Mirage will make up for because it makes zero sense to include her in musical collectibles like those cans
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>>143123925
Because Freyja and Mikumo are the stars of Delta. They are the two most popular characters of Delta. Mirage barely scored above a secondary character and that was because the triangle caused a rift in the way fans voted. Merchandise is for popular characters because people buy things of what they love. That's why even when the make merch for guys you barely see Chuck and Arad, which is because Mirage is a little bit more popular than them
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>>143123805
Can't you waifufags starting a waifu war with better reason?
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>>143124428
The miragefags are always starting bs over nothing. If anyone says even the slightest thing about Freyja they attack.
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>>143124409
>all this excuses for Mikumo's failure
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>>143124355
I don't even look at the clothes.
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>>143124428
Freyjafags being delusional and getting uppity every week, nothing new
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>>143124111
We're talking about Freyjafags, not Freyja itself.

Well i don't really care that too anyway, but there's a thing i want to say: Mikumo is not popular in Japan, thank you.
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>>143124471
Failure? A secondary character scoring one rank below a main character. That's impressive for Mikumo and quite pathetic for Mirage. If Mikumo had as much useful screentime like Mirage, i'm sure the results would have peaked. It doesn't matter anyways because next pull Mirage will fall and Kaname and Shinpi will rise.
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>>143124514
>not popular

She's more popular than Reina and Reina does nothing

With this logic Kaname should beat her in the next New- Oh who am I kidding, old people don't get into Newtype polls
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>>143124363
Sheryl wouldn't have gotten a better monthly ranking vs the same other songs either anyway. The first one that month pulled 3 quarters of a million sales for instance. The power of mainstream.
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>>143115149
>Shippings wars between Freyja/Mirage - 30%

It's happening, but thread not even in half of bump limit, maybe this time shipping wars will be 50% of the thread.
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>>143124529
Mikumo does have useful screentime but keep piling up that excuses for new month.

Mirage reached 4th with the least screentime, the least lines and the least focus.
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>>143124573
>least screentime

Have you actually counted it? It isn't that low
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Can't wait for Hayate doing an Immelmann dance with the Elysion.
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>>143124514
>Mikumo is not popular in Japan, thank you.
What nonsense are you sprouting now? And how would you even know this? If you actually think this you're just in denial and will put down either Freyja or Mikumo to make Mirage relevant.
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>>143124555

Kawamori went really soft regarding romance this time.
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>>143124597
Mikumo sings almost every episode and she's FRONT AND CENTER along with Freyja. She also has meaningful dialogue regardless of how random and quirky her lines may be.

Mirage is only there for a bit of exposition and your weekly Delta-5 call and Roger.
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>>143124573
>least screentime
Incorrect. In fact there is no denying that Mirage has more screentime than shinpi. Shinpi barely interacts with anyone to have as adequate screen time as her, and she still managed to get 5th, while the main character with ample screen time scraped 4th. Literally one spot higher.
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>>143124536
Reina is being cute. Not sure what else do you need.
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>>143124634
That's because she utilized her screen time efficiently. Mirage is just a block for the producers. They literally don't know what to do with her and have her around for triangle sakes.
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>>143124609
New type.
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>>143124714
They seemed to know what to do with her, this episode
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>>143124714
>b-because p-producers forced Kawamori!

That's not the excuse, they can simply gender swap Messer or Keith and they can still do the triangle job, they just failed to develop her.
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>>143124771
Am I the only seeing her development? I mean especially with last episode?
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>>143124714
>Mirage is just a block for the producers. They literally don't know what to do with her and have her around for triangle sakes.

Source: My ass
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>>143124771
How can they fail when they even haven't started yet nor the show is over?
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>>143124784
Characterfags typically only see what they want to see and ignore everything else. I don't get why people are always acting like the series is ending with the next episode when there is still an entire second half for characters to grow.
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>>143124818
It looks started to me and is progressing if somewhat slowly?

like what the hell people
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>>143124784
Well, things could turn positive now with the newest episode.

Unfortunately, seems some Japanese think >>143122514 is beginning of total war, so if staff want the triangle remain faint, they better make a scene that with Freyja and Mirage talk to each other, peacefully.
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>>143124659
>In fact there is no denying that Mirage has more screentime than shinpi.
>I don't watch the show
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>>143124857
The japanese can have retarded shipper faggots that we're plagued by too you know.
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>>143124852
It's not slow considering they hamfisted Messer for two and a half episodes and gave 5 minutes for Kaname's backstory to finish
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What does Kawamori do exactly that's different from Yasuda and Nemoto?
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>>143125012
How many kawamori shows have you seen?
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>>143125089
Outside of Macross, I've seen Escaflowne, some of both Aquarions, and 3 episodes of Nobunaga.
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>>143124378
Where is Mirage here?
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>>143124857
You know who else issued a challenge? Ranka.
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>>143125579
>entire box covered with Macross singers
>HURRDURR WHERE IS MIRAGE
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>>143124857
>triangle remain faint
>doesn't realize that Mirage is on the same rock bottom boat Sheryl was halfway into the show when Ranka was the queen and shieett
>Hayate sees Freyja as a little sister complete with the protecting part
>he does not realize he got rused by the rusemaster all along
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>>143124378
>forgets the fact that half of Macross merchandise are Bandai toys which Mirage will make up for

Funny you say that, because Freyja has a mini figurine in Hayate's plane display and she's with him in the package.
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>>143125711
>doesn't realize that Mirage is on the same rock bottom boat Sheryl was halfway into the show
Sheryl was on victory road until episode 12 where Ranka arc began up episode 20 where Sheryl made her come back.

Shit it's resembling Frontier. Even the loser is trying to challenge the winner.
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>>143125731
I'd believe you if every Hayate VF-31 plus all the backpack shit and upgrades will include Freyja on it

I don't even doubt that they would eventually release a Walkure-themed VF-31 models like they did with the previous ones
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I'm a waifu fag and I'm a shipper fag (as far as I want my girl to win) but is all this ship(shit)posting really needed? Can't we let the show just happen?
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>>143125711
Did you watch Frontier? Sheryl was the top dog for most episodes in the first half. Ranka had some moments and came strong in the middle (like Mirage now).

The relationship between Hayate and Freyja is nothing like Alto and Ranka. Hayate flirts with Freyja (winks at her, teases her) while Alto was paternalistic with Ranka, including her role as protector handed to him by Ozma, another big brother rather than her self-appointed knight. Ranka never asked Alto shit about his life unlike Sheryl, she only did in episode 21 for fuck's sake. Freyja immediately asks Hayate about his life and is interested in it just like Sheryl did. This episode he opens up with her about his family. Mirage never asks, she happens to overhear.
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>>143125731
>mini freyja
Prove it
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>>143125860
There is one in the cockpit
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>>143125831
Did you see how Bandai is promoting them? All Delta Squadron is basically Walkure's dogs.
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