was it a masterpiece?
>meme artstyle
No.
Am I still the only person on /a/ who didn't like the ending? Especially that repetitive "hero" song
>>142985634
Hero was great and the OST was fucking phenomenal. The ending wrapped everything up well enough but it felt a bit unrealistic for Peco to come out completely uninjured and turn pro.
>>142985533
Ｗａｓ ａｎｄ ｉｓ．
It was trash.
>>142985533
Yes.
It was barely even a piece.
>>142985533
Y E S
>>142985533
Only people with inferior taste will say it's not.
>>142985533
One of the very best
>>142985533
Only edgy teenagers hate this show. Ping-Pong is great.
>>142985533
The reason why it's not discussed here is because it's perfect. No ambiguity, direct to the point, meaningful and powerful message and beautiful execution.
The manga is still better. Fuck Yuasa taking away from Matsumoto's vision.
>>142987635
>No ambiguity
I didn't get it (not that I disliked it).
>>142988623
what didn't you get anon?
>>142988744
Why didn't he just win?
>>142988865
He literally wasn't able to beat Peco.
>>142987635
So perfect that most people dropped it halfway because full episodes of 'experimental' animation is tiring, especially when the plot is inexistent.
>>142988865
Because that's just how life is sometimes, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTAPOYMEqnQ
>>142988916
He was a machine. Maybe I'm retarded, but it felt too arbitrary who could or couldn't win. I just don't get the overall message.
>>142989045
How did he get drunk off a few spiked chocolates?
>>142989005
>especially when the plot is inexistent.
Leave it to an ESL to be retarded. Maybe you're confusing what "plot" means in your native language, because the plot was there from the first episode.
>>142985533
It's very good, but it's really not that special. It doesn't do anything groundbreaking, and it's not really exceptional enough in its own right to be given that sort of title.
It's a high-tier show, though.
>>142988865
Because he couldn't.
>>142989227
>I just don't get the overall message.
The overall message is about maturing and coming-of-age.
>>142985533
No, it was just a really good execution of a pretty generic sports story.
>>142985533
No, it lacks novelty, and elements that transcend in the intent of the show.
It is, however, artisan in its execution - an example of very good craft.
>>142989319
>generic sports stor
I doubt you can prove it's generic.
Yes, the best show of 2014. I can't believe it's already been 2 years since it aired though.
>>142985576
I've taken the bait and gotten offended.
>>142989319
>Generic
Provide at least three similar examples or stop talking out of your ass
Not it IS a masterpiece
>>142989319
>>142985533
>>142985576
>>142985600
literally the undertale of /a/
>>142989319
Its a sport manga about a highschool team, gotta be generic then right?
>>142988521
>The manga is still better
You're kidding right? That manga was trash. Yuasa made all the stories mesh so much better together, plus he fleshed out the character more than the manga did.
retarded tripfags with shit taste like that show.
like that one fag ledouche
>>142985533
How could I not?
It was an amazing experience.
>>142985533
>masterpiece
no. But it was damn good.
>>142989227
Mr Robot was for the entire story the best one, but he always played worse against Peco, just because he knew his friend is better than him. But Peco started sucking hard, since he forgot what's the most important in ping pong.
In the end, Peco finally understood and Mr Robot could fight him with his full power and once again smile - because his fucking friend was back with 100% pure skill in the game.
>>142985533
the animation was great although unsettling
the story was good but not amazing
so no, not a masterpiece but really good
>>142985533
Watching it felt really great. Finishing it made me feel empty inside. I used to avoid it because I thought it was a meme show but I was wrong.
I wish I watched it with /a/.
>>142991512
lelouch likes every show though.
![[Commie] Ping Pong - 11 [BD 720p AAC] [A3AEA2E9].mkv_snapshot_18.56_[2016.06.18_11.38.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wtdX62O.jpg "[Commie] Ping Pong - 11 [BD 720p AAC] [A3AEA2E9].mkv_snapshot_18.56_[2016.06.18_11.38.41].jpg")
I was really happy when China was doing well.
>>142991833
>How could I not?
What?
>>142991987
That's not really the message though. That's more of an explanation of the story.
>>142985533
Great anime but zero re-watch value.
Yes, and see this. >>142987500
>>142985533
after four weeks of perpetual ranting of "it's not about the ping pong, it's about the friendships and connections of all the players!!!1!!!111" and seeing a bunch of clips putting the weird ass artstyle on display, i doubt i'm ever going to watch this
fuck, why do the fans of this show need to be so autistic about it
>>142993208
Just watch it, it's not very long and you'll understand the merit to it pretty quickly.
My second favorite anime of all time
Number 1 isCromartie High
>>142993208
Believe me when I say that I wanted to drop this show after the first episode, but I'm glad that I didn't. Easily one of the best shows I've seen.
>>142992648
Oh wow. I never realized that he gave up his citizenship.
Aesthetically impressive, and a simple to digest story/meaning behind it. Quite a nice series. A masterpiece? I don't think so, but it was a nice breath of fresh air. That kind of creativity is nice to see from time to time, and usually it's limited to movies and OVAs.
>>142993375
he did?
>>142992851
>zero re-watch value
Damn tripfag back at it again with the shittaste.
>>142993208
Were you even here when it was airing and immediately following? The people who hated it were far, far more vocal and annoying. It's probably why it has gotten such an intense fanbase now, as a reaction to the hate.
>>142993436
To be naturalized in Japan means to renounce your citizenship. It also requires a new Japanese name, which for Kong he chose Tsujidou.
>>142993685
oh wow. This is probably japan's way of saying it's better to be jap than chinese.
>>142985533
It was pretty good but it never warranted the endless hype and fanboyism. Same as OPM.
Basically there is an immature Shounen audience who orgasms every time there is a show with good animation and some sort of perceived "depth", while in essence not being too different from any Shounen show.
>>142993741
Yeah, when I watched it I thought that he had made the Olympic team back in China. I hadn't really looked at the text till just now since it had flashed by pretty quickly.
Started (and about to finish) second watch of this series. Love it, get so wrapped up thinking about the different characters that the art style disappears, it's just a great story for anyone who's ever competed at anything with any level of success.
>>142989005
>especially when the plot is inexistent.
wew lad
>>142993685
What? That's fucked up. Is that required for every person who applies for citizenship in Japan?
>>142992648
Kong Wenge was a handsome cunt.
Best boy.
>>142996101
Seems like it? To be naturalized at least.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nationality_law#Naturalization
Kong was best voy, best story. Smile was also quite nice
>>142985533
GOAT, simply perfect, I also love the artstyle since it keeps moe shitters, it will probably end up being the anime of the decade, dont see anything else beating it.
>>142989005
holy shit how much of a tard do you have to be to watch anime in this way
>>142992513
No you dont
Every single thread was shitposted to death with 'pretentious hipster garbge'
K O N G
>>142985533
It's my favorite anime so it's a masterpiece to me. I feel like personal life experiences plays a large role in how much someone can enjoy this show, so it will never be accepted widespread as a masterpiece.
>>142989317
>The overall message is about maturing and coming-of-age.
That's a very unspecific way to put the "message" of this anime, but I guess it's not false
>>142985533
Bad show but I managed to watch the whole thing. I regret everything.
>>142985533
Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNS2b-FlmiY
>>142985785
It's not really unrealistic for a young person's knee injury to not end up affecting them much long term
>>142993208
>"it's not about the ping pong, it's about the friendships and connections of all the players!!!1!!!111"
I think it's masterpiece and I take huge issue with the people who say that. Ping Pong is more about the sport and sports in general than most other sports anime are. It's the ultimate sports anime. The characters just happen to be great and the voice acting is god tier. No other anime will so perfectly display the nature of competition.
Man, this shot got me
I will never be able to watch it again for the first time;_;
>>142999044
Yeah, im sure thats why it was voted AOTS and AOTY in several polls right? Ping pong threads were amazing, the only people constantly shitting the threads were the NGNL retards, no wonder their shit anime was forgotten in less than a month, also season 2 never.
No. It's not perfect but it is really good.
The problem is that it does the opposite of one of the main flaws concerning sport anime, namely putting too much focus on idealizing knowledge of the sport. The problem with this is that we don't see actual skill or knowledge being used to win. All we see, more often than not, is faces of character expressing their amazement of a person's skill or what happened. Had there been a mix of the two, it would have been perfect. Having a slide of all the character show shock over and over isn't good.
Something else that annoyed me was how wasteful it was to just not have China do anything. His arc in the story is rather interesting but to have to just fail twice without having done much is the story feels a bit wasteful to me. However, seeing as how Hero came out of nowhere and beat three of the most interesting players puts this to ease. It just sucks to see him lose so early.
Another point of imperfection is the woman in the show. She's a fiance to that other strong player, but she's only brought up and never really contributes or does anything. It's a waste of character and should've been removed.
That ending though. Holy fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDeca52TDZE
>that single shot of all the old characters in their prime
It didn't even need to be added but it made it so much better.
>>142996101
Japan is known for being extremely xenophobic.
>>142985634
I fuckin love that frame
by the way, anyone who was paying attention might've noticed that there were a lot of advanced foreshortening / zooming / space-warping techniques.
>>143000360
>dat smiling sumairu
>>143001325
I agree with the second complaint, I'd have liked to see China catching more of a break once.
I really disagree with the third one, though - she helped to highlight Dragon's priorities and dedication to the sport, and just that one scene in the Christmas episode made me empathize with her a lot. She's not a central character, she doesn't need to move the plot forward a ton. Having good scenes of her own and helping characterize others is more than enough.
>>143001542
I guess. I just think it would've helped had she had more of a presence with Dragon or we saw her cheering for him during his match rather than remain hidden. i dunno, something to give her more character.
But regardless, these are really minor nitpicks of something I really enjoyed.
>>142985533
no, but it was very good.
>>142993767
>in essence
nice weasel words.
>>142985634
>Especially that repetitive "hero" song
Yes, you're the only one. That song is fucking amazing.
>>142985533
It was pretty great desu senpai. I absolutely loved the OP with how upbeat it was in contrast to its rather cynical lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px9FvddtgpM
>>142985785
Yeah, that Peco came out on top despite injury and still had no problems later is my only quibble
>>142985533
definitely a must-watch
>>143003061
>>142985785
wasn't the point that his professional career would be short(ened), not non-exsitent?
>>143003135
>wasn't the point that his professional career would be short(ened), not non-exsitent?
In the end I don't think that was implied at all. The story treats it like a red herring. Picos knee injury was built up for half the show, and foreshadowed with the tale of Butterfly Joe, but rather than it not materializing due to weak writing...
Pico just isn't affected because he's the goddamned hero and no pain can stop him.
>>143003312
he is still fairly young at the end of the show, and there's nothing that implies that he wont have the same end as butterfly joe
>>143003349
Theres also nothing that implies he will. At least not within the IMMEDIATE confines of the show without headcannon.
>>143003432
except for all the stress they put on his injury in the show.
>>143000650
Irrelevant, all the threads were shit
