Why are people acting like if Fate was some super incredibly amazing and ultra popular franchise?
UBW sold just 30k. Despite all the marketing and being box only release.
That's around GuP, a series that came out of nowhere, and two times worse than the likes of LL or Madoka.
The only Fate series that really was very popular was Fate/Zero. But that's in large part because it was Gen's series and came out right after Madoka.
>>142960194
>just 30k
That's very good sales. The fact that other series sold more doesn't mean that 30k is low, by any means.
Fate is a very popular franchise and the sales from the VN and the money generated from games like Grand Order is a testament of that. Just look at the popularity of Saber's figure and how many of them are sold.
>>142960194
What do you mean 'was'? It is. Basing popularity around the amount of boxsets sold isn't a good measure.
>>142960194
>just 30k
do you realise how much that is, OP?
Isn't 7k considered a success? I would say 30k is quite good.
>>142960194
Only Zun and boatsults are bigger.
30k is a lot anon, in animu terms
Even 10k is a success. Keep in mind that most series barely break 5k, some don't even sell 1k.
How much money is 291050 downloads?
>>142960194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNZove4OTtI
>>142960829
Fate/Zero
>>142960869
How much better this world would be if people didnt waste money on plastic crap
>>142960829
Well if you use Japanese anime pricing, which is roughly $475,000 per disc, it comes out to about a lot.
>>142960675
And One Piece and Pokemon and Love Live and Gundam and Madoka and Dragonball and Utapri and Osomatsu and Monogatari and AoT and probably more.
>>142961159
Grand Order is pulling in a million dollars a day on iPhones alone.
>>142960194
30k only for the first cour anon whereas fate zero sold less than 30k in the first cour
>>142961186
I wonder how much of their audience has played/watched FSN or Zero.
>>142961186
GBF and Bahamut used to make more. And it's already dying out.
>>142960194
It's meme and bait.
>>142960194
>came out right after Madoka
>2011
>2006
You don't even know what you're talking about. At least if you said Tsukihime, you might have a point. Lurk more.
>>142961444
He's referring to fate zero anime you dumb fatetard
>>142960194
Because the VN is one of the biggest VN sellers in history and sold more than other popular standard videogames.
And even Kara no Kyoukai sold a lot by anime standards, and more given that the source was mostly unknown before it.
>>142961345
GBF has earned its grave
>friend recommends me Zero
>really interested
>enjoy the fuck out out the first episodes
>get to episode 15-16
>suddenly just don't want to continue anymore
>drop it and never go back
It then happened again with UBW, I just completely lost interest halfway through.
I don't even know why it's happening.
I watched Fate/stay night back in the day and I made it through fine.
>>142961186
It was one day in the KnK event, fuck off.
>>142962214
Cygames makes 500-600 million $ QUARTERLY.
Yes, 2+ billion $ per year.
FGO has it's 5 minutes now, but I really doubt that it's going to last.
>>142962353
Same story with Zero. Characters are just uninteresting. Few episodes in you start to stop caring.
>>142960194
>just 30k (more like 36 each season btw)
>literally top 20 (10?) of all time
>it's the third adaptation of Fate/stay Night, and the second of this same exact route
>>142961186
Should I care about Grand Order? Is there an English translation?
>>142962353
Same thing. I watched the first half back in 2011, and then just forgot about it when the series went on hiatus. I know how it ends anyway.
>>142962591
Do you like gatcha jewery? Do you like getting literally nothing good? Lots of grinding?
If so, thenmake a gun and shoot yourself.
>>142962591
The best "english translation" is summaries of parts of the plot. Game itself is shit. It has some cool new Servants, and other very badly designed ones.
>>142962654
I hate mobile games but I've heard that it has some world building written by Nasu.
>>142960194
I thought it earned close to 75k across both cours
>>142961186
This is fake it's impossible
one million a day is impossible for this
>>142960194
>UBW sold just 30k
>just 30k
Oh yeah, that's just like so nothing. It's so common for anime to sell 30k. As we all know, if it's part of an established franchise, surely it means the anime will be a top seller for everything
>The only Fate series that really was very popular was Fate/Zero
How exactly are we gauging popularity here?
>It's a GuP fag tries to brag about sales again
>>142960671
4k is success. 30k is "holy fuck we jewed everyone out of their money"
>>142960194
It's shit.
>>142960194
Just finished uni and was going to pick this, is it necessary to watch the previous Fate/Stay series to watch UBW to not get lost?
>>142967145
Read the fucking VN.
>>142968206
The VN is boring as fuck
It's just cooking and autistic speeches
>>142967145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAx8f-VGzCw
>>142962591
It's horrible. Game is crap and gacha is more jew than Cygame's at it's best.
But some of the designs are great.
>>142968373
I bet you're the same kind of guy who refuses to read manga because it's not moving.
>>142968419
We need to make a pastebin for Fate threads similar to the Jojo ones and link this video under "HOW DO I GET INTO THE SERIES"
>>142960194
Do you have any idea how popular fate/grand order is?
>>142960194
It even sell less than Anzio OVA alone
>>142968929
The #1 mobage right now, but far below Bahamut's or GBF's peak popularity. And it stagnated while showing downward trends. It's boosted a bit now because Shuten is flooding Pixiv but that's won't last.
Unless anime happens fast it's going to drop hard.
>>142968646
Good idea. Lets make the Fate threads even more cancerous then they already are.
>>142967145
Start with zero
>>142968473
Pic not related, right?
>>142970607
Are you gay?
>>142962353
The second half is when characters start being explored, but unless you enjoy suffering and high tier chuuni adventures of Kiritsugu the main draw of Zero is Rider. Rider and Waver's relationship is the only good servant/master relationship outside maybe Kirei/Gil but even that pales in comparison.
Rider is the reason I enjoyed Zero, he feels like the polar opposite of everything else in this garbage franchise.
>>142970714
i don't understand how textbook secondary iskandarfags are still a thing
>>142971023
He is the only good character in this terrible franchise
>>142970706
>pale skin
>no curves
>ugly horns
>no tits
>designed by Raita
No, I'm not.
>>142971187
Zero isn't about character growth or characterization, but on the contestants, as fixed identities, due to their flaws, moving towards destinations you know about, or should know about, if you read the VN like you were supposed to.
Shirou and Rin by end of the prologue are already better than the entire FZ cast, save for Kirei, who is only good because of his context from HF.
>>142962405
It's doing 1 million a day right now.
>>142971304
I liked Zero as a whole, but Iksander as well as his relationship with Waver raised it from about a 7 to an 8 out of 10 for me. Everything outside of Zero is trash, particularly the LN and VN and especially anything that focuses on FSN.
>Shirou and Rin by end of the prologue are already better than the entire FZ cast
>Shirou
As shallow as some characters in FZ end up, they are still better than Shirou. Shirou is a fucking awful excuse for a character.
>>142971571
Sure.
So Proto Morgan disguises as Proto Merlin to fuck Proto Arthur and create Mordred.
I feel bad for Guinevere. Is there a continuity she's not shit on and has to rely on Lancelot's dick to feel good?
>>142960194
>just 30k
Are you a retard?
>>142960684
You're still wrong, actually. 5K is already a quite good result. Most series don't hit 3k.
>>142960194
>Why are people acting like if Fate was some super incredibly amazing
I'm not saying it is, but you're basing the quality of a show solely off of the taste of others, namely how many were willing to spend money on it.
This makes you a stupid opinionless faggot who is cucked everyday by everyone around him because he has no voice.
You'll fit right in here with your fellow newfags.
>>142960194
UBW sold over 70k for both box sets. Your 30k figure is averaging out between the two.
Using your same logic, I could argue Zero sold only 50k.
It's shady math to try and make your point seem stronger.
UBW sold great considering there was a movie that told the exact same story four years prior to it, and another anime that retread many story elements eight years before it.
>>142975768
>UBW sold over 70k for both box sets. Your 30k figure is averaging out between the two.
What? How does that work? You can't
average two numbers and get a smaller one than each of them.
>>142975768
>Using your same logic, I could argue Zero sold only 50k.
Yes, it did.
>>142971353
It's not. It's at 600k.
>>142975768
How fucking new are you? Sales discussions deal in averages 99% of the time, not totals.
>>142975863
The two box sets sold around 35k each, so averaging them out together nets you around 35k in sales, but in total numbers it's over 70k.
The important thing though is Fate/Zero's sales are trumpeted around for breaking 100k all together for their two sets. The 50k average is usually never brought up.
>>142975768
>UBW sold over 70k for both box sets
Are you retarded?
When normal series sells nobody mashes all volume sales together, what matters is the average per volume.
If you put all volumes together the likes of Madoka sold around a million.
>>142975863
>>142975970
See >>142975969
UBW did not sell significantly less than Zero did, considering the fact that it's the third adaptation of the story, while Zero's was its first.
>>142976036
Zero did 50+. UBW 30+.
That's not a big difference?
>>142975969
Oh, you were talking totals. In that case, see >>142975913
And I'm not in Fate threads all that often, but every time Zero is mentioned outside of them in the context of sales, it's the 50K that comes up. If people in these threads are referencing 100K, then they're more likely the ones using shady math to make their point look stronger. No one talks totals - they say Bake sold 79K, not 474K.
>>142976136
Not when you consider that there are segments of UBW that have been animated three times.
>>142976136
Not him, but it's 52 and 39, to be fair. And 46/36 for the second parts.
>>142975754
>majority of the anime fanbase now
This anon gets it.
>>142976173
Three times in the last 10 years, at that.
The Caster arc has been done so many times it's a little ridiculous. Not to mention we've seen the final fight with Assassin reinterpreted about as many times as it could be done.
>>142960194
>comparing any anime's success with GuP
What, is Madoka actually not popular at all because Rebellion's barely matched the GuP movie?
>>142976241
Comparing these are always fun.
>>142974749
>Arthur cucked Guinevere first
Shining and perfect king my ass.
>>142976589
>>142976633
>>142974749
>So Proto Morgan disguises as Proto Merlin to fuck Proto Arthur and create Mordred.
Wait, Arthur is gay?
>>142976766
Proto Merlin is a woman. Fans speculate she'll be voiced by Kawasumi because Type Moon loves parallels and VA meme jokes.
Merlin: Sakurai
Arturia: Kawasumi
Arthur: Sakurai.
F. Merlin: Has to be Kawasumi for meme reasons.
>>142977339
Kawasumi voices Fou in F/GO drama cds too
>>142960194
Rin's a shit
>>142977816
Fuck off and don't respond to me ever again, Aniplex-kun.
>>142978927
Mean.
>>142978894
Kawasumi is usually paired with Sakurai for meme purposes in anime. I doubt the change of VA for Merlin was a coincidence. Nips ship their voices together.
